The Ottoman Conquest of Cyprus 1571

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    On 19 May 1571 74 Ottoman siege guns fired a thunderous barrage at the sturdy walls of Famagu-sta, the last stronghold of the Venetian republic on the Island of Cyprus. An invasion army of almost 100’000 men, led by the experienced Lala Mustafa Pasha, had already taken the inland capital of Nicosia and by now had been camping outside Famagusta for more than eight months. The town was cut off completely and supplies began to run low, but the defenders put up a fierce fight, firing back at the Ottomans and meeting them in the trenches whenever possible. All the more, the Ot-tomans were determined to finish the job and bring the formidable fortress to its knees - and with it the whole of Cyprus.
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    00:00-00:53 Intro
    00:53-01:56 Nord VPN
    01:56-04:39 Chapter 1: Breach of Peace
    04:39-09:12 Chapter 2: Preparations
    09:12-13:09 Chapter 3: Disaster
    13:09-18:10 Chapter 4: Famagusta
    18:10-21:29 Chapter 5: Under Assault
    21:29-24:18 Chapter 6: Betrayal
    Bibliography
    Caroline Finkel - Osman's Dream. The History of the Ottoman Empire-Basic Books, New York 2007.
    Duffy, C., The Fortress in the Early Modern World 1494-1660, London 1979.
    Norwich, J. J., A History of Venice, London 1989.
    Setton, K. M., The Papacy and the Levant, 1204-1571, vol. 4 The Sixteenth Century from Julius III to Pius V, Philadelphia 1984.
    Seward, D., Les chevaliers de Dieu: Les ordres religieux militaires du Moyen Âge à nos jours, trad. Claude-Christine Farny, Paris 2008.

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  • @SandRhomanHistory
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    • @IsaacRaiCastillo
      @IsaacRaiCastillo Рік тому +3

      Do you know about the Siege of Cephalonia of 1500? I think it would be interesting to see on the canal, because it was a combined Venetian, Spanish and French army against the castle of Saint George which was in Ottoman hands. It is a good example of what sieges were like at the beginning of the 16th century and it is said that it was one of the first sieges where military mines were used to destroy walls. It is part of the Third Turkish-Venetian War (1499-1503).

    • @melchiorvonsternberg844
      @melchiorvonsternberg844 Рік тому

      Are you Italian...?

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Рік тому

      For obvious reasons you forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

  • @WelcomeToDERPLAND
    @WelcomeToDERPLAND Рік тому +57

    The Staggering difference that a bad commander makes in any situation...

    • @rickjames18
      @rickjames18 Рік тому +6

      Yup, still makes a difference today. When countries promote people based on status or other (political correctness) instead of merit it leads to disasters in times of war.

    • @Fallout3131
      @Fallout3131 Рік тому

      @@rickjames18 100%

    • @clintmoor422
      @clintmoor422 Рік тому

      yeah, lala mustafa pasha was a bad commander and they still won at famagusta.

  • @7gromojar
    @7gromojar Рік тому +66

    I was lucky to visit Famagusta. The walls are enormous.

    • @miliba
      @miliba Рік тому +4

      Did you fly into the Turkish part of Cyprus?

    • @clintmoor422
      @clintmoor422 Рік тому +1

      from google maps is also visible

    • @7gromojar
      @7gromojar Рік тому

      I visited couple of cities on both sides. Not knowing anything about destination of my trip. Wonderfull holiday.

  • @Spiderfisch
    @Spiderfisch Рік тому +81

    Nicosia is probably the least staggering siege you ever covered

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Рік тому +62

      True, that's why Famagusta is in there as well :P

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Рік тому +5

      For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

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  • @bc7138
    @bc7138 Рік тому +80

    Coincidentally I just finished reading Roger Crowley's 'Empires of the Sea: The Final Battle for the Mediterranean 1521-1580' today and it has some chapters on this siege. A really great book, you could tell Crowley has a background in Literature in that it's very well written and readable.

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      When I was a ten year old kid, I discovered a book about this sea battle in our school libary. Now, decades later, I'm excited about the video. Miguel de Cervantes, fought in this battle, from which the Ottoman fleet, never recovered! Greeds from central Europe...

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  • @WFASPigeonGang
    @WFASPigeonGang Рік тому +38

    Veneto guy here. Marcantonio Brigadin is still considered an hero here in Veneto.

    • @clintmoor422
      @clintmoor422 Рік тому

      did he do anything besides defending famagusta?

    • @kuvikina
      @kuvikina Рік тому

      next time when we knock the door surrender immediately without a tough fight and dont execute war prisoners.

    • @WFASPigeonGang
      @WFASPigeonGang Рік тому +9

      @@kuvikina "and don't execute prisoners" - turkish massacre of Otranto citizens flashbacks

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Рік тому +2

      For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

    • @WFASPigeonGang
      @WFASPigeonGang Рік тому

      @@ggoddkkiller1342 Sorry to say that but that's a whole lot of BS to justify the betrayal as legit. Why no one, except the turks, claim the existance of these 50 pilgrims? Why should have they been in Cyprus? Why don't you write that he was freakin' executed at the public column, where the civilians saw the execution and then reported it all over europe? Why no tales were told about skinned prisoners execution or about their rotting bodies? Why should your logic justify the death of hundreds soldiers and civilians? Why should Bragadin have mockingly told to Lala that he skinned prisoners alive after harshly negotiating for his soldiers lives? "I could go on but still "your" version doesn't make any sense at all, it's pure propaganda to justify the turkish actions.

  • @WelcomeToDERPLAND
    @WelcomeToDERPLAND Рік тому +292

    Man... what happened to Marco has to be one of the worst possible fates for anyone let alone someone betrayed so heinously... barbaric.

    • @attilakatona-bugner1140
      @attilakatona-bugner1140 Рік тому +60

      Sadly it wasn t that rare in ottoman affairs. It was rare enough that ottomans still had some trustworthyness, and that actually allowed it from time to time to happen

    • @z54964380
      @z54964380 Рік тому +37

      It’s like a double edge sword m, on one hand it could potentially terrify their enemies to surrender before the siege, on the other hand it could also motivate the defenders to fight to the death, like those knights on that island which name I cannot recall who blew up the entire castle after it was overrun by the Turks and killed a lot of em, basically crippled the campaign of the Turks.

    • @WelcomeToDERPLAND
      @WelcomeToDERPLAND Рік тому +22

      @@z54964380 Well yeah, but this was after the siege was over, and after they had agreed to surrender terms.

    • @somewhere6
      @somewhere6 Рік тому +61

      Certainly barbaric. Also potentially counter-productive. It could terrorize people into surrender but also urge them to fanatical defence knowing that could be the fate AFTER surrender. Also, if you employ those tactics, what mercy will be shown to you if you lose?

    • @chedabu
      @chedabu Рік тому +8

      @@attilakatona-bugner1140 still true to this day

  • @EDMmemories
    @EDMmemories Рік тому +14

    400 people killed by the countermine, can't even visualize it, absolutely crazy. Any survivors who saw must have told that story frequently the rest of their lives.

  • @csabaszep8162
    @csabaszep8162 Рік тому +19

    He sent a blind monk... guy labelled "Blind Monk" appears. For some reason that made me grin.

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  • @miliba
    @miliba Рік тому +53

    Ive just visited Cyprus and crossed into the northern part of Nicosia. You can see Greek and Turkish influences everywhere, no matter which side of the buffer zone. I especially enjoyed Büyük Han, the old inn.

  • @tnk.2033
    @tnk.2033 Рік тому +8

    Those fortresses are insane

    • @Skankhunt668
      @Skankhunt668 Рік тому

      @@HistoryLover23 they had no chance

    • @dayros2023
      @dayros2023 Рік тому +1

      At Famagusta they were very good.

  • @arandomwalk
    @arandomwalk Рік тому +16

    What an engaging and well made video!

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Рік тому +17

    So the Battle of Lepanto is next?! I hope the video about it will arrived soon because I always wanted to see what it really looked like!

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Рік тому

      A Spanish king, what should I do after this great battle? Yes, destroy my fleet against Algeria in order to make the Ottomans strong again.

  • @alder2460
    @alder2460 Рік тому +13

    Yes, the battle of Lepanto is finally coming!

    • @etuanno
      @etuanno Рік тому

      He wrote in 4 weeks in another comment

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  • @clintmoor422
    @clintmoor422 Рік тому +3

    had to rewatch this a few days later and notice so many more details. i think your videos might lend themselves to being watched again in a few years time.

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  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Рік тому +2

    Incredible history, thank you!

  • @conradnelson5283
    @conradnelson5283 Рік тому

    Very well done very interesting. Really enjoyed the narration.

  • @mancroft
    @mancroft Рік тому +1

    Very interesting, thank you. Your vids are getting much better.

  • @kamikazetsunami9137
    @kamikazetsunami9137 Рік тому +11

    A vid on naval sieges would be interesting

    • @clintmoor422
      @clintmoor422 Рік тому

      what would a naval siege be? a siege of an island?

    • @WelcomeToDERPLAND
      @WelcomeToDERPLAND Рік тому +3

      @@clintmoor422 Sieges that had a large naval involvement as part of the besieging force, so artillery, landing troops, blockades- its not a very often covered topic from what I've seen here on history-tube.

    • @danielrogge3085
      @danielrogge3085 Рік тому

      La Rochelle?

  • @curranlakhani
    @curranlakhani Рік тому +19

    Excellent video as usual @SandRhomanHistory you really do cover the most staggering sieges!
    A video on the siege of Caffa would be great as it was the eventual cause of the black death. Maybe you could include it in a wider video on biological warfare in sieges.

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video 📹
    Good graphics 👌

  • @rockoorbe2002
    @rockoorbe2002 Рік тому +21

    Spoiler alert, but Bradagin's death was something straight out of one of those Wrong Turn movies

  • @Mr_St_Lazarus-1099
    @Mr_St_Lazarus-1099 2 місяці тому +1

    Kenneth’s vol III covers this, loved it overall

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 Рік тому

    Really cool, thanks a bunch for sharing with us G

  • @eliech7112
    @eliech7112 Рік тому +1

    Great work as usual thank u

  • @ralphc1405
    @ralphc1405 Рік тому +2

    PLEASE!!! Do a video of Lepanto! Very good work on this video!

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    @dwayneskinner6984 Рік тому

    Keep up the amazing work

  • @benjamin112
    @benjamin112 Рік тому

    Great video as always

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  • @AdamNoizer
    @AdamNoizer Рік тому +14

    I feel sorry for Antonio Bragadin ☹️

    • @alvisejensonbusetto
      @alvisejensonbusetto Рік тому +3

      In our homeland (Veneto) he is considered as a hero.

    • @matthew7027
      @matthew7027 11 місяців тому +2

      He murderd Turkish pilgrims and prisoners after surrender. He got what he deserved.

  • @EDMmemories
    @EDMmemories Рік тому +1

    Great video, siege videos are my favorite of yours

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  • @shawnbeckett1370
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    Awesome as always

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    @TheSuperhoden Рік тому

    Yessss today i was already scrolling your video list in the hope i missed one

  • @gabrielcurraj3994
    @gabrielcurraj3994 Рік тому +20

    Can you make a video on how to build the "perfect" star fort?

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      And explain to some people that they were not for space ships.

    • @sdggameing2138
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      Perfect Fortress video featured star fortress, I think

    • @clintmoor422
      @clintmoor422 Рік тому

      @@raclark2730 who would even think that?

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Рік тому +13

      yeah, we might look into that. It might be quite similar to our older how to defend video though. We're also looking into Vauban at the moment, so there will be a video covering this even though it might be released with a different name!

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  • @3Dbubble
    @3Dbubble Рік тому +4

    The book Empires of the Sea is a great depiction of not only this siege but of Malta and the Battle of Lepanto. Highly recommend

  • @adembeydola1288
    @adembeydola1288 Рік тому +3

    I am from Cyprus and yesterday I was in Famagusta. Walls are standing still as well as in Nicosia. Loved how you used the original cathedral in illustrations.

  • @eugeniocallegaro6618
    @eugeniocallegaro6618 Рік тому +2

    This is how you make Veneto sad before going to bed. It still hurts after more than 400 years

  • @oguzkaganonder1331
    @oguzkaganonder1331 Рік тому +2

    I would advice you to take a look at Siege of Nagykanizsa 1601, as it is probably the most succesfull and perfect siege defense in history, it would be a great content for your amazing channel

  • @thunderK5
    @thunderK5 Рік тому +1

    i know that Lepanto is famous, but please do cover it. Your videos always add to my understanding.

  • @enonh82
    @enonh82 Рік тому +17

    The story of intrigue on how the Ottomans came to break the peace treaty with Venice is just as interesting. Jewish banker José Nasi wanted revenge on Venice (for having confiscated his riches) and convinced Selim of invading the island, even offering to partly finance the campaign.

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      Musl im hordes as the weapon of the J ew. Nothing changed

    • @scottanos9981
      @scottanos9981 Рік тому +9

      No surprise the tribe Jose Nasi belonged to was banished from 109 nations throughout history. Their subversion is unmatched lol

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      @@ahmetozkan438 not so contained after 1949 ahaha

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      ​@@ahmetozkan438 Why did the Jews of Spain flee to the Ottoman Empire?

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Рік тому +1

      For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

  • @evrenforest2578
    @evrenforest2578 Рік тому +1

    Well narrated. I advise the book of Excerpta Cypria for those who wants to know the details.

  • @skagenrora1236
    @skagenrora1236 Рік тому

    Would be cool with some more videos about the wars and battles between the countries around the Baltic Sea.

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. Рік тому +7

    I'm sure this conquest will have no repercussions that will echo into modern times, at all.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому +6

      The Turks would have invaded regardless of the island's ethnic composition.

  • @xedaslopes3975
    @xedaslopes3975 Рік тому

    great video

  • @alswann2702
    @alswann2702 Рік тому +3

    Thanks be for Our Lady's intercession at the Lepanto.

  • @sarahsidney1988
    @sarahsidney1988 Рік тому +2

    Cool video

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf Рік тому

    good work

  • @danielmeadows3712
    @danielmeadows3712 10 місяців тому +1

    You cannot negotiate a peaceful truce , if your enemy lies and has No honour

  • @hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156
    @hugodesrosiers-plaisance3156 Рік тому +1

    How about an episode about those "blind monks"? Could that be a thing? I'd love to learn about them.

  • @playboygoss
    @playboygoss Рік тому +5

    Please SandRhoman, in 1567 the zayyanids don't exist anymore, be careful with the maps on north africa (it was the same on the video on the siege of malta)

  • @Skanderbeg911
    @Skanderbeg911 Рік тому +1

    Very good vídeo, i love your videos, please a video of the battle of Lepanto, the siege of castelnouvo, the siege of oran-mazalquivir and the warfere of the janissaries.......

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Рік тому +3

    And from there, a geopolitical hotspot emerged.

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Рік тому +6

      it was one before, I'd say. Even back in ancient times Cyprus was already contested territory. The Persians and Greeks both laid claim to it and various moments in time.

  • @NikolaStjelja
    @NikolaStjelja Рік тому +2

    Could you make an episode on the Balkan troops in the Fanti Oltramarini?

  • @goldiegolderman1842
    @goldiegolderman1842 Рік тому +2

    Those little cannons firing are so damn cute!

  • @Bosscheesemo
    @Bosscheesemo Рік тому

    Please do one for 1601 Siege of Ostend. Spanish v Dutch if memory serves. It's family legend that an ancestor survived inside the city walls. I've always been curious what exactly that would have meant.

  • @iseeyou5061
    @iseeyou5061 11 місяців тому

    Any chance you would cover battle of Keresztes? It's suprising that many channel that i trust to cover them would still used the outdated Ottoman decline thesis.
    You have a history that cover Ottoman army pretty well and i think your channel is uniquely suited to showcase battles 16-17th centuries that are not neccesarily one sided since many historian that cover this periods is in "infantry pike and shot is the best and cavalry are backward" mindset at the time

  • @lauramontsegur7782
    @lauramontsegur7782 Рік тому

    Wow, mind blowing

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому +53

    Vital note: As the Ottoman's expanded their paper size of their domain, their actual control of the land diminished. The Ottomans were generally oblivious to what was happening in most Senjaks and entire wars came and went without anyone bothering to inform the Sultan. Sometimes Ottoman commanders went rogue and had de facto independent states, sometimes the local Ottoman government was defunct for decades at a time, and sometimes Ottoman rule was simply an empty oath of allegiance by the actual ruler who simply wanted to avoid trouble.
    All this was made possible by the Ottoman's habit of throwing away whole armies just to secure symbolic victories against nobles who bad mouthed the Sultan.

    • @etuanno
      @etuanno Рік тому +6

      Oh really?
      Then it makes sense that it collapsed so rapidly as soon as the power of the Sultan was dwindling.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому +2

      @ahmetozkan438 whatever case you trying to make, you ain't doing a good job at it

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому +9

      @etuanno the crown was already defunct by the time WWI started. A gang of army officers ran things. The collapse was very slow before that as European powers each intervened to prevent the others from taking too much Ottoman turf

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Рік тому

      @ahmetozkan438 dude, it took months to get a message across the empire. You find it incredulous that cliques could quietly enforce their own rules? That's actually what happened in Saddam's Iraq too, as conspiracies between officials to do this or that was the norm.
      In the Ottoman's case, the Sultan once issued an order to clear up the east of pirates who were eating into tax revenues. The army commanders were receiving bribes from some of the extortionists, so they lied and said the Sultan said to hunt Armenian pirates. The junior officers wanted loot so they lied and said the Sultan ordered the Armenians who are all pirates to be hunted. Individual soldiers wanted to hide their crimes so they lied and said the Sultan ordered the Armenians to be killed.
      Welcome to the Ottoman Empire.

    • @rohansensei5708
      @rohansensei5708 Рік тому +1

      @@etuanno Ottoman Empire didn’t dissolve so easily though. But some parts like Hungary, Egypt, North Africa and conquered lands from Iran had so minimal control from central goverment that they lost these parts immediately when another power stepped in.

  • @Nomadicenjoyer31
    @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +8

    Cypriot Greek has often been referred to as a dialect of Greek (Contossopoulos, 2000); a variety that is linguistically proximal to Standard Modern Greek (Grohmann and Kambanaros, 2016 Grohmann et al. 2016), which is the official language in the environment our participants acquire language. Although the official language in education and other formal settings is indeed Standard Modern Greek, research has shown the boundaries between the two varieties, Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek, and their distribution across different registers is not straightforward (Grohmann and Leivada, 2012, Tsiplakou et al. 2016). At times mixing is attested without code-switching being in place, while no official characterization has been provided for any of these terms in this specific context. The question arising in this context is whether the attested variants emerging in mixed speech repertoires are functionally equivalent for an individual speaker.
    The concept of "competing grammars goes back to Krich 11989, 1991), who proposed that speakers project multiple grammars to deal with ambiguous input This concept has been explicitly connected to the relation between Standard and Cypriot Greek (Papadopo et al. 2014; plaka 2014; Grohman et al 2017)
    The two varieties have differences in all levels of linguistic analysis and often monolingual speakers of Standard Modern Greek judge Cypriot Greek as unintelligible. At the same time, Greek Cypriot speakers do not always provide reliable judgments of their own speech since these are often clouded by sociolinguistic attitudes toward using the non-standard variety. Cypriot Greek lacks official codification and its status as a different language/variety is often denied by Greek Cypriots who may downplay the differences between Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek and describe the latter as just an accent (Arvaniti, 2010). As the discussion of the different variants will make clear in the next section, the two varieties have differences across levels of linguistic analysis and these differences vastly exceed the sphere of phonetics or phonology.
    All speakers of Cypriot Greek have exposure to Standard Modern Greek through education and other mediums and in this way, they are competent to different degrees in both varieties. We employ the term 'bilectal' (Rowe and Grohmann, 2013, 2014) to refer to the participants of this study, although it is not entirely clear that the varieties they are exposed to are Standard Modern Greek and Cypriot Greek or that they are only two varieties, under the assumption that a continuum is in place. For instance, the term 'Cypriot Standard Greek' (Arvaniti, 2010) has been proposed to refer to an emerging variety that may count as the standard in the context of Cyprus. This would be a sociolinguistically 'high' variety (Ferguson, 1959) that is used in formal settings, although its degree of proximity with Standard Modern Greek is difficult to determine with precision because great fluidity is attested across different settings and geographical areas. At the school environment, for example, one notices the existence of three different varieties: Cypriot Greek, as the home variety that is used when students interact with each other, Standard Modern Greek, as the language of the teaching material, and another standard-like variety that incorporates elements from both varieties, and is present in the repertoire of both the students and the instructors (Sophocleous and Wilks. 2010; Hadjioannou et al., 2011; Leivada et al.. 2017).

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 Рік тому +6

      "90% of today's Turks are the descendants of yesterday's Greeks."
      John Kingsley Birge, A guide to Turkish area study

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 Рік тому +6

      “Why did the Turkish state want to hide that the Anatolian people largely had Greco-Roman roots? What was the reason for this secret? Why were they afraid?"Why did they carefully conceal the Greek origin of the large Turkish-speaking masses who were Islamized and due to linguistic assimilation?”
      Professor Mehmet Efe Caman

    • @Nomadicenjoyer31
      @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +2

      @@vangelisskia214 In the European cartography of the fifteenth to eighteenth centuries, "Grecia" included Dalmatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, the coastal area of Asia Minor, Albania, and the Aegean islands (Karathanasis 1991, 9). For the Western audience in Germany, Austria, and Hungary, "Greek" (Greek Orthodox) was synonymous with Orthodoxy (Stoianovich 1960, 290). Regardless of their ethnic origins, most Greek Orthodox Balkan merchants of the eighteenth century spoke Greek and often assumed Greek names; they were referred to as "Greeks" in the sense that they were of the "Greek" religion. During the eighteenth century, the ge- ographic dispersion and the urban nature of the Greek ethnie in the Balkan peninsula transformed the "Greeks" into a Balkan urban class (Svoronos 1981, 58). Hence, the "Greeks" were not only the ethnic Greeks but generally included all the Orthodox merchants and peddlers, many of whom were Grecophone or Hellenized Vlachs, Serbs, or Orthodox Albanians.
      Roudometof, V. (2001) Nationalism, globalization, and orthodoxy: The social origins of ethnic conflict in the Balkans. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press. p.54

    • @Nomadicenjoyer31
      @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +1

      @@vangelisskia214 Indeed “Greek” was an emic term in the Hellenistic period, referring generally to both the original Greeks and the Hellenized population.
      Greek resurrection beliefs and the success of Christianity (with preview) New York: Palgrave Macmillan , 2009 Dag Øistein Endsjø

    • @Nomadicenjoyer31
      @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +1

      @@vangelisskia214 btw this quotation doesn't even exist in Kingsley's book 🙃🙃🙃

  • @Sakura-nk7kc
    @Sakura-nk7kc Рік тому +1

    0:05 the way my man just disintegrated💀💀

  • @taka7369
    @taka7369 Рік тому

    I assume, your next video is about the battle... of the Bulge

  • @cengizsogutlu
    @cengizsogutlu Рік тому

    Great video greetings from Turkey.

  • @sergiolp6058
    @sergiolp6058 Рік тому

    I really hope the battle of Lepanto is cover some day.

  • @Cubey7
    @Cubey7 Рік тому

    That's a lot of damage.

  • @trockenerkakau6585
    @trockenerkakau6585 Рік тому +9

    can you make a video of the siege of cadiz 1810 it was one of the longest sieges of the napoleonic wars

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Рік тому +14

      maybe sometime down the line. At the moment we can't afford to buy another set of artwork (which would be required to cover the 1800s)

  • @RichardEdwards40
    @RichardEdwards40 Рік тому +1

    Marco Bragadin should have waited for the holy league fleet to arrive. They were on their way to help.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Рік тому

      Algeria was destroyed by the stupidity of the Holy Roman Empire, the Heisburgs

  • @bcvetkov8534
    @bcvetkov8534 Рік тому +4

    The Venetians deserved to lose their overseas possessions in the Eastern Mediterranean. They watched the Ottomans only gain strength as time passed and as the Byzantines failed to hold them at bay. Their inaction to aid the Romans and contain the threat of the Ottomans only led to their own downfall in the end. This is karma for the 4th Crusade. I feel genuine remorse for the garrisons on Crete and Cyprus who bravely held the Ottomans back for as long as they could but to no avail. The Ottomans are savages and barbarous animals for what they did. It's totally unspeakable to me to be okay and have cruelty like this normalized in the ranks like this.

  • @LagazelleNeu
    @LagazelleNeu Рік тому

    Wann gibt es die Version der Filme auf Deutsch?? es können (2.Wahl) auch deutsche Untertitel sein. Merciviumau

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Рік тому

      mit wenigen Ausnahmen immer ca. 1 Jahr nachdem sie auf dem englischen Kanal veröffentlicht wurden.

  • @therealoldnosey8689
    @therealoldnosey8689 Рік тому +1

    In my current eu4 game The Ottomans declared war on Cyprus maybe a dozen times and never landed any troops

  • @kuvikina
    @kuvikina Рік тому +3

    It is the perfect time to listen `Kuffar` from Hasan Mutlucan while watching this.

  • @gabrielvanhauten4169
    @gabrielvanhauten4169 Рік тому +4

    I think the Ottomans could have been stopped if Doria would not have sabotaged things. A Venetian fleet on Cyprus would have changed things quite a bit.

    • @kuvikina
      @kuvikina Рік тому

      if my aunt could have a moustache i can call her uncle.

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 Рік тому +1

      Doria was genoese, in the Italy of the time a Venetian Genoese alliance would have been a mirage at best most of the times.

    • @sp1d3rm0nk3y33
      @sp1d3rm0nk3y33 Рік тому

      Pretty much difficult. Cyprus was undefendable for logistic reasons. Too close to ottoman empire.

  • @navneetshyam1335
    @navneetshyam1335 Рік тому +1

    Very good video! You should have made this video earlier.

    • @SandRhomanHistory
      @SandRhomanHistory  Рік тому +1

      thanks! well better late than never, right?

    • @navneetshyam1335
      @navneetshyam1335 Рік тому +1

      @@SandRhomanHistory bro, I meant that you should have made it earlier as it's an important topic in the Ottoman history.

  • @trentoatman2998
    @trentoatman2998 Рік тому

    Honey! A new siege just dropped!

  • @houtenhekje8375
    @houtenhekje8375 Рік тому +4

    Im just wondering how they trusted that a messenger was legitimate, was it done with certain watermarking on paperwork? Would be a fun topic to see fake messengers causing chaos

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j Рік тому

      The Duchy is an evil city. Did Austria destroy this country?

  • @pandastical9205
    @pandastical9205 Рік тому +3

    Is this what Othello was based off?

  • @weltvonalex
    @weltvonalex Рік тому +3

    It's so strange to me that at the same time there are allready colonizes in America. It seems always like totally different time lines

  • @prophetrexlexful8783
    @prophetrexlexful8783 Рік тому

    speaker.. How swiss do you wanna sound?
    Yes

  • @ariyoiansky291
    @ariyoiansky291 Рік тому +2

    Flayed alive, my gosh thats brutal and cruel

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Рік тому

      For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them.
      The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release. He answered as they all weren't his prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed.
      Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners. He answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject but he couldn't be more wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved.
      Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order that shall Baragdin die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose were cut and few days later he was executed by skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today. While European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

    • @dubbyx8490
      @dubbyx8490 11 місяців тому

      @@ggoddkkiller1342 A little paragraphing would be nice my friend..

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 11 місяців тому

      @@dubbyx8490 Here you go my friend, my paragraphing might be bad but at least i don't try to manipulate history and push a narrative)

    • @dubbyx8490
      @dubbyx8490 11 місяців тому

      @@ggoddkkiller1342 I agree.. The least you could do is to write in paragraphs so that people can easily follow your arguments.

  • @demilung
    @demilung 3 місяці тому

    The might of the empire capable of deploying over 100k men overseas. Imagine using that power in the times of actual peace with your major neighbours to strengthen your economy and future prosperity instead of pointless after-the-fact cruelty.

  • @SpinachInfluenza
    @SpinachInfluenza Рік тому

    All the Moor!!!!

  • @jeremy9416
    @jeremy9416 Рік тому

    Sorry I don't wanna be a grammar nazy
    But it's Girolamo Zane, not girolame, but i understand that it sound pretty difficult to write

  • @ExperiencePlayers
    @ExperiencePlayers Рік тому

    Top

  • @rickjames18
    @rickjames18 Рік тому +10

    Some things never change in Europe. It doesn't surprise me that Doria was stalling because he didn't really want to help. It also doesn't surprise me that the Europeans bickered so much they ended up leaving Cyprus to its fall. That Pasha Mustafa betrayed the Venician leaders just because he could or that he made slaves of the troops after agreeing to let them go. Seems like Erdogan like to play games as well. Someday Cyprus and Constantinople will be taken back.

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Рік тому +1

      For obvious reasons he forgot to mention according to which sources Ottoman betrayal happened, there were European ''historians'' who could claim Ottoman slaughtered defenders of Rhodes as well even if it was well documented such betrayal didn't happen at all and both knights hospitallers and thousands of civilians could freely sail to Crete! Turkish sources are crystal clear about the subject that surrender agreement called Vire agreement was signed at 2 August and it was very spesific even mentioning how many guns and even horses Venetians could transfer with them. The agreement also included release of 50 Turkish pilgrims that their ship was captured before the siege and they were held as captives for months as a bargaining chip. So when Bragadin met Lala Mustafa Pasha at 5 August he was asked where exactly 50 Turkish prisoners who were set to release and answered as they all weren't Baragdin's prisoners rather his soldiers' prisoners so he couldn't release them and they were killed at the same day the agreement was signed. Then Lala Pasha asked where exactly Turkish pilgrims who were his prisoners which was answered as they were also killed after his soldiers killed their prisoners. Perhaps he thought 50 civilian prisoners weren't that important of subject and could be ignored but he couldn't be wrong. Lala Pasha was furious and ordered imprisonment of Bragadin and all other Venetian commanders who were later executed while over 4,000 soldiers and civilians were enslaved. Christian sources are sharing so insanely detailed description of his torture you would think there were European historians watching but nope, there wasn't a single European who actually saw it nor even heard it from first hand sources. Rather it is so detailed simply because it is from TURKISH sources, Baragdin wasn't tortured at first rather he was only imprisoned and meanwhile it was invastigated how exactly Turkish pilgrims were killed. It was learned that their ears and nose were cut then they were killed by skinning them alive. So Lala Pasha gave the order of Baragdin to die exactly same as he killed pilgrims, his ears and nose was cut and few days later was killied by getting skinned alive. His skin later sent to his family which is a ''holy'' relic today, while European ''historians'' chose to rather ignore the part of executed Turkish pilgirms from Turkish sources while copying them as obviously otherwise it would be quite hard to declare Baragdin a saint...

    • @matthew7027
      @matthew7027 11 місяців тому

      Yeah sweet dreams soft shell western.

    • @panosgeorgedimitriou2290
      @panosgeorgedimitriou2290 9 місяців тому

      ​@@matthew7027patience turkish parasite in the end Noone can escape justice

  • @MatthewSereysothea-hf1js
    @MatthewSereysothea-hf1js 9 місяців тому +1

    The Turks finished flaying Marcantonio Bragadino, then sent His straw-stuffed body on tour around the city, then sent the poor man's remains to Constantinople for exhibition as well. Real sweethearts, the
    Osmanlis

  • @nikolaipedrov9084
    @nikolaipedrov9084 Рік тому +18

    It's not a strange thing (especially from Ottoman) to see betrayal at the end of surrender process. But still...that sucks so much.

    • @superlegomaster55
      @superlegomaster55 Рік тому +3

      Agreed it sucks

    • @ruskyalmond1977
      @ruskyalmond1977 Рік тому +11

      "especially" from Ottomans.
      If only they were white and christian. Then you'd judge them without double standards.

    • @userequaltoNull
      @userequaltoNull Рік тому +12

      @@ruskyalmond1977 yes, especially from the Ottomans. In medieval Europe, surrender terms were given the utmost respect, and captives taken on the battlefield or in sieges were rarely executed, instead being captured alive to receive the run-of-the-mill battlefield ransom. Even during particularly difficult sieges, when the defenders hold out until the walls are breached by bombardment or ladders, the occupants of a city or castle were given clemency, and allowed to go about their lives more or less unchanged (with a difference in political situation, of course). Foreigners from the eastern Christian lands are documented to have commented on the civility and mercy shown during warfare in Europe, in comparison to in his central Asian homeland.

    • @oldgamer9992
      @oldgamer9992 Рік тому +2

      Lol did you heard about nazis, Mongols, Spanish,???

    • @superlegomaster55
      @superlegomaster55 Рік тому

      @@userequaltoNull source?

  • @RPe-jk6dv
    @RPe-jk6dv 10 місяців тому

    never never surrender.

  • @Nomadicenjoyer31
    @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +17

    The traumatic element of Greek national identity is reinforced in memories of Ottoman rule known as the 'Turkish yoke'.

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 Рік тому +9

      "90% of today's Turks are the descendants of yesterday's Greeks."
      John Kingsley Birge, A guide to Turkish area study

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 Рік тому +7

      “Why did the Turkish state want to hide that the Anatolian people largely had Greco-Roman roots? What was the reason for this secret? Why were they afraid?"Why did they carefully conceal the Greek origin of the large Turkish-speaking masses who were Islamized and due to linguistic assimilation?”
      Professor Mehmet Efe Caman

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 Рік тому +4

      lol

    • @Nomadicenjoyer31
      @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +2

      @@vangelisskia214 I use the term Hellenic in order to differentiate 19th and 20th century national identity in modern Greece from the earlier, not so clear, use of terms like Graikos, Romios and, sometimes, Ellinas, which were all more or less synonymous for the Greek-Orthodox Christians of the Ottoman heartland. Hereafter, I use the term Greek to allude to the ambiguour use of this word (esc) bir contemporani scholar who refer without proper discrimination , to the representatives of the larger Greek - Orthodox Ottoman community , mostly hellenized or Greek - speaking , who probably considered themselves not as Hellenes but simply as " Romaioi " and Christians .
      Historein: A review of the past and other stories (1999). Athens, Greece: Nefeli Publishers. p.69

    • @Nomadicenjoyer31
      @Nomadicenjoyer31 Рік тому +1

      @@vangelisskia214 In the European cartography of the fifteenth to eighteenth centuries, "Grecia" included Dalmatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, the coastal area of Asia Minor, Albania, and the Aegean islands (Karathanasis 1991, 9). For the Western audience in Germany, Austria, and Hungary, "Greek" (Greek Orthodox) was synonymous with Orthodoxy (Stoianovich 1960, 290). Regardless of their ethnic origins, most Greek Orthodox Balkan merchants of the eighteenth century spoke Greek and often assumed Greek names; they were referred to as "Greeks" in the sense that they were of the "Greek" religion. During the eighteenth century, the ge- ographic dispersion and the urban nature of the Greek ethnie in the Balkan peninsula transformed the "Greeks" into a Balkan urban class (Svoronos 1981, 58). Hence, the "Greeks" were not only the ethnic Greeks but generally included all the Orthodox merchants and peddlers, many of whom were Grecophone or Hellenized Vlachs, Serbs, or Orthodox Albanians.
      Roudometof, V. (2001) Nationalism, globalization, and orthodoxy: The social origins of ethnic conflict in the Balkans. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press. p.54

  • @diwajerebation4077
    @diwajerebation4077 Рік тому

    lala partook in some buffoonery

  • @david-468
    @david-468 9 місяців тому

    I definitely feel even though we think Bronze Age was more brutal for civilians I’d say these black powder sieges were much worse because of the length

  • @notthefbi7932
    @notthefbi7932 Рік тому +2

    It's interesting,most of the videos I see about the Ottomans, they are always besieging someone 🤔

    • @ruskyalmond1977
      @ruskyalmond1977 Рік тому +1

      But it's ok when everyone in Europe does it??? lol

    • @notthefbi7932
      @notthefbi7932 Рік тому +2

      @@ruskyalmond1977 I was just stating the most of the videos about the Ottomans I've seen, revolve around them besieging someone. That's it, I haven't seen much about them in open battle 🤔