I've been running one of these cheap gearboxes for about a year now, NO ISSUES. Got it from Ali express and it's actually very good. Paired with a hobby wing fusion. Yes, you do get some play in the spur shaft, mine came with a small screw that actually "adjusts" that. Don't get me wrong it isn't the best thing ever but it does the job and for a cheaper rig I do recommend it
If you have the layshaft adjustment (threaded bit opposite the spur, then you don't have the same gearbox. The number of gunmetal + red aluminum gearboxes spread between Amazon and AE likely numbers in the dozens. Might get a good one, might get what I got. I refuse to apply a review of "very good" to something that is at it's very best "functional." There are plenty of $20-30 gearboxes out there without the same component, hardware, fitment, and QC issues.
I was holding my breath just about to suggest wrapping the bearings and you said it att the very end.. Good info on the spur wobble, was trying to figure that out for months - thank you!
Other issues aside, the quality of this one is crap, but for years I have dry assembled transmissions and added toothpaste into them and spun them for 5 minutes with a cordless drill. It laps the gears in and then just needs washing off and greasing and you end up with smooth quiet trans. Just my 2 cents
Just wanted to let you know, and yes, these are very sloppy, I've run two of these hard in two different class 2 trucks for almost three years of competition, and despite the sloppiness, they've never skipped a tooth or given me even one issue. I fully expected that they would, but they've been reliable. Would I recommend them? Meh. I'd say take your chances, but odds are good that it'll do fine.
I took all the play out of my bearings by mixing up a SMALL amount of JB weld and put it in the bearing cups to lock the bearings in their respective holes and take up the slop. Put it back together gave it a couple of spins and let it sit for a day. Loose bearing problem solved.
Excellent video, it’s fun for a Junkview to actually be junk once in a while, the last several have been surprisingly positive. Do you know of a slipper that fits the Amazon dig gearbox? I’d like to add one, I think I mangled a diff because I didn’t have one. Also, where do you get decent graded hardware (ideally in assortments as opposed to buying each size individually?
The easiest way to add a slipper is to just buy a whole gearset: amzn.to/3OAZto0. Luckily the dig box won't fit that crappo main gear. You should be able to use any "pin drive" slipper assembly. I Can't help on the screw assortments, unfortunately. I buy mine in hundred bags from McMaster.
I know this is a little off topic...Have you come across a shock spacer kit on Amazon? I know you make your own spacers, but I dont have the equipment to cut my own Thank you
Apparently, aluminum is something that is kinda unique to "hobbying," so the choices in that material are super slim on Amazon, and usually overpriced-- like $1 per spacer in many cases. But if you're okay with plastic (and easily half my shocks use plastic spacers) we're lucky enough to have overlap with PC building, so we can buy big bins of them: amzn.to/3WuNev8
It's probably not on Amazon but Team KNK sells spacer kits. They aren't cheap really at 26 bucks, but I used some on a g-speed build and have been digging into that pack ever since. It has been very helpful to have around. I believe the first spacers I bought were from Yeah Racing or Hot Racing
It's not the best quality but it does the job for me, and always drive it carefully, do not force speed for it, i used it for crawler, low and slow, if RC can through an obstacle, just use winch
I'd like to see how those hotracing lcg transmissions does. Hot racing isn't the best but some of their stuff is ok. SSD makes an LCG trans as well but double the price of the hotracing ones
A failed experiment in trying to get a universal cantilever kit to work. It adds too many variables. Just slapping towers on the rig improved the handling of the rig immeasurably in about 2 minutes.
Which Benedict Harry transmission set do you recommend? Could I trouble you for a link? Also, what does Baseline run these days? I really enjoy watching that rig.
Thank you. I'm a huge Baseline fan. I'm actually thinking of buying one after watching him hit the rocks. He does what he does, and looks good while doing it. @@CrawlerCanyon
This is weird.. I have the same looking one and the main shaft moves ever-so slightly. I can barely see it move when I move it up and down or side to side. I haven't taken it apart but I don't feel any wiggles or extra play. Purchased mine from ali tho.
That combo of gunmetal and red aluminum 3-gear occurs dozens of times across Amazon and AliExpress, and I'd be willing to bet if you bought five, you'd be lucky if three were the same.
This is the only hardware that my hands can get into here in the Philippines. I really don't know why anyone in the USA or EU would buy this ones if you have Traxxas and the likes. I envy you guys. What I got here are knockoffs.
I have a few chinesium Axial gearboxes. I really just get ‘em for the housing and filled them with Axial internals with good results. Granted, the current stock like you said is likely a copy of a copy of a copy (I like pizza, Steve). You gonna try putting the Axial goods in the alloy housing?
Did. Smoother(ish), but the play in the bearings is still there, and there's no way to swap in the Axial topshaft gear, because the clonegear is longer. "We're gonna eat a dolphin!"
Got one from a friend he didn't like the play in it so he gave it to me. Has no slipper. I took it a part to fix the play used plumbers tape. It seems to be ok now.
Any free gearbox is a pretty good one. But that clonebox is usually around the same price as the clone of the Vanquish+Hurtz, which is rock solid-- and has dig.
I've kind of arrived at a place where if you want a 3-gear, spend the coin and get a Stealth X. They've kind of done it the best. Plus, having up to 18% UD inside the box ends up saving money, as you can leave your axle gears alone. If you want dig, it's the $30 dig box, and whatever needs replaced on it to make it proper (the QC on those boxes is near non-existent, which is where the savings come from.) Gearboxes like the 2Low and OD-3 are annoying "compromise boxes" where you're going to have to do things you don't necessarily want to do to get them to fit. If you're on a budget, Hobbypark and Injora both have dirt cheap plastic case 3-gear boxes that do the thing-- with no glamour at all. Not the gearboxes you buy for life, but instead the ones you buy "for now."
The worst part about this is I have like... 90% of what's needed already on-hand. I'm just missing axles. edit: I then remember that I have a box full of Redcat Gen7 Pro axles. I already have the all-junk build, it's just not built yet.
@@CrawlerCanyon I’d love if it some how came out insanely capable like the SCX10 not-RTR, but was just an insane bucket of shit full of noise and bleeding grease.
I do not get the comments here. If only I lived somewhere where hobby shops exists near and are selling branded items from quality companies I wouldn't even look at this knockoffs and I wouldn't degrade it. This is only the things that we have in Asia, KNOCKOFFS.
My day is not complete without watching an episode of crawler canyon !!!!!!! Literally
I've been running one of these cheap gearboxes for about a year now, NO ISSUES. Got it from Ali express and it's actually very good. Paired with a hobby wing fusion.
Yes, you do get some play in the spur shaft, mine came with a small screw that actually "adjusts" that.
Don't get me wrong it isn't the best thing ever but it does the job and for a cheaper rig I do recommend it
If you have the layshaft adjustment (threaded bit opposite the spur, then you don't have the same gearbox. The number of gunmetal + red aluminum gearboxes spread between Amazon and AE likely numbers in the dozens. Might get a good one, might get what I got. I refuse to apply a review of "very good" to something that is at it's very best "functional." There are plenty of $20-30 gearboxes out there without the same component, hardware, fitment, and QC issues.
I was holding my breath just about to suggest wrapping the bearings and you said it att the very end.. Good info on the spur wobble, was trying to figure that out for months - thank you!
Other issues aside, the quality of this one is crap, but for years I have dry assembled transmissions and added toothpaste into them and spun them for 5 minutes with a cordless drill. It laps the gears in and then just needs washing off and greasing and you end up with smooth quiet trans. Just my 2 cents
Interesting
Great video Thanks Canyon Make sure gentleman you do not forget to hit the like button !! on your way out
Big canyon cal you sai if there is something to convet this to lcg?
Just wanted to let you know, and yes, these are very sloppy, I've run two of these hard in two different class 2 trucks for almost three years of competition, and despite the sloppiness, they've never skipped a tooth or given me even one issue. I fully expected that they would, but they've been reliable. Would I recommend them? Meh. I'd say take your chances, but odds are good that it'll do fine.
I took all the play out of my bearings by mixing up a SMALL amount of JB weld and put it in the bearing cups to lock the bearings in their respective holes and take up the slop. Put it back together gave it a couple of spins and let it sit for a day. Loose bearing problem solved.
There was a lot of bad to talk about. I'm glad Element puts a metal motor plate on their 'boxes.
Great show. Helping the algorithm.
Excellent video, it’s fun for a Junkview to actually be junk once in a while, the last several have been surprisingly positive.
Do you know of a slipper that fits the Amazon dig gearbox? I’d like to add one, I think I mangled a diff because I didn’t have one. Also, where do you get decent graded hardware (ideally in assortments as opposed to buying each size individually?
The easiest way to add a slipper is to just buy a whole gearset: amzn.to/3OAZto0. Luckily the dig box won't fit that crappo main gear. You should be able to use any "pin drive" slipper assembly.
I Can't help on the screw assortments, unfortunately. I buy mine in hundred bags from McMaster.
I know this is a little off topic...Have you come across a shock spacer kit on Amazon? I know you make your own spacers, but I dont have the equipment to cut my own Thank you
Apparently, aluminum is something that is kinda unique to "hobbying," so the choices in that material are super slim on Amazon, and usually overpriced-- like $1 per spacer in many cases. But if you're okay with plastic (and easily half my shocks use plastic spacers) we're lucky enough to have overlap with PC building, so we can buy big bins of them: amzn.to/3WuNev8
@@CrawlerCanyon I’m fine with plastic Thank you
It's probably not on Amazon but Team KNK sells spacer kits. They aren't cheap really at 26 bucks, but I used some on a g-speed build and have been digging into that pack ever since. It has been very helpful to have around. I believe the first spacers I bought were from Yeah Racing or Hot Racing
It's not the best quality but it does the job for me, and always drive it carefully, do not force speed for it, i used it for crawler, low and slow, if RC can through an obstacle, just use winch
I'd like to see how those hotracing lcg transmissions does. Hot racing isn't the best but some of their stuff is ok. SSD makes an LCG trans as well but double the price of the hotracing ones
I just mounted my 2nd set of Que-T wheels. I like the weight and simplicity.
All of my favorite cheap wheels have come from Hotstorm. I'll try any of 'em, just so long as the backs are 6-bolt.
@@CrawlerCanyon2.5 mm head is key rc lions and injora have good quality
What u got goin on with the rear suspension there
A failed experiment in trying to get a universal cantilever kit to work. It adds too many variables. Just slapping towers on the rig improved the handling of the rig immeasurably in about 2 minutes.
Which Benedict Harry transmission set do you recommend? Could I trouble you for a link?
Also, what does Baseline run these days? I really enjoy watching that rig.
The only Benedict Harry gearbox I have decent hands-on experience with is the two speed amzn.to/3SfBScV which is excellent (also has reverse output.)
Thank you. I'm a huge Baseline fan. I'm actually thinking of buying one after watching him hit the rocks. He does what he does, and looks good while doing it. @@CrawlerCanyon
This is weird.. I have the same looking one and the main shaft moves ever-so slightly. I can barely see it move when I move it up and down or side to side. I haven't taken it apart but I don't feel any wiggles or extra play. Purchased mine from ali tho.
That combo of gunmetal and red aluminum 3-gear occurs dozens of times across Amazon and AliExpress, and I'd be willing to bet if you bought five, you'd be lucky if three were the same.
Awesome information🧿
This is the only hardware that my hands can get into here in the Philippines. I really don't know why anyone in the USA or EU would buy this ones if you have Traxxas and the likes. I envy you guys. What I got here are knockoffs.
I have a few chinesium Axial gearboxes. I really just get ‘em for the housing and filled them with Axial internals with good results. Granted, the current stock like you said is likely a copy of a copy of a copy (I like pizza, Steve). You gonna try putting the Axial goods in the alloy housing?
Did. Smoother(ish), but the play in the bearings is still there, and there's no way to swap in the Axial topshaft gear, because the clonegear is longer.
"We're gonna eat a dolphin!"
My first thought was how bad could it be? Then you started wiggling the spur shaft and, yeah, ok that is bad.
Yelp, not buying this one! Thanks the Junkview headsup!!
That transmission and my EX have a lot in common 😅
Looks good in pictures, but actually fraught with uncorrectable problems?
Got one from a friend he didn't like the play in it so he gave it to me. Has no slipper. I took it a part to fix the play used plumbers tape. It seems to be ok now.
Any free gearbox is a pretty good one. But that clonebox is usually around the same price as the clone of the Vanquish+Hurtz, which is rock solid-- and has dig.
@CrawlerCanyon don't have any to put in thinking about a new skid the my Capra, giving it a try.
Put it together with some loctite green "sleeve retainer" 😂😂😂
One time use transmission 😅
Daaaaaaamn!!!! 😳
I’d spend 50 on a stealth element done super quiet with plastic gears.
A Stealth X is $65 now, but I completely agree.
Well taking this out my amazon cart lol
I've kind of arrived at a place where if you want a 3-gear, spend the coin and get a Stealth X. They've kind of done it the best. Plus, having up to 18% UD inside the box ends up saving money, as you can leave your axle gears alone. If you want dig, it's the $30 dig box, and whatever needs replaced on it to make it proper (the QC on those boxes is near non-existent, which is where the savings come from.) Gearboxes like the 2Low and OD-3 are annoying "compromise boxes" where you're going to have to do things you don't necessarily want to do to get them to fit.
If you're on a budget, Hobbypark and Injora both have dirt cheap plastic case 3-gear boxes that do the thing-- with no glamour at all. Not the gearboxes you buy for life, but instead the ones you buy "for now."
Thanks man ! Love the content as always 🤘 you've helped me decide on alot of purchases along the way as I learn. Thanks
you should build a junkviewcar, junk axles, junk wheels, junk rims, junk esc, servo reciever and radio and junk motor + gearbox
The worst part about this is I have like... 90% of what's needed already on-hand. I'm just missing axles.
edit: I then remember that I have a box full of Redcat Gen7 Pro axles.
I already have the all-junk build, it's just not built yet.
@@CrawlerCanyon perfect!
@@CrawlerCanyon I’d love if it some how came out insanely capable like the SCX10 not-RTR, but was just an insane bucket of shit full of noise and bleeding grease.
I do not get the comments here. If only I lived somewhere where hobby shops exists near and are selling branded items from quality companies I wouldn't even look at this knockoffs and I wouldn't degrade it. This is only the things that we have in Asia, KNOCKOFFS.