EM3 STELLAR - An 800 Inch Screen For Your Pocket? Let's Check The Picture Quality!
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2021
- The EM3 Stellar MR glasses promise us an 800 inch screen that floats in front of us! They are currently on Kickstarter and in this video I am going to check out the picture quality of the device!
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What do you think about the EM3 Stellar? Are you going to back them?
I'm keen for a glasses style for virtual cinema / virtual desktop display. But their 3840x1080 is clearly just 1920x1080 per eye (3840x1080 is also stated as 16:9 aspect), so their 4K claim is not honest. And it's 60Hz only. Also, I believe you really need 6DOF for virtual screens, otherwise it would be like clamping your head still in front of your monitor (all view movement would need eye movement... not how we naturaly look at out monitors / TVs!).
For now I'm waiting for the Panasonic VR Viewer. Suddenly Panasonic is looking even more exciting, with 70+ degrees FOV (compared to 53 degrees on EM3), amazing 2560x2560 resolution per eye!, 120Hz, and 6DOF. WOW... come on Panasonic, take my money!!! :-)
we have virtual svreens for ages. Definitely the quality is great, but it is not really geared toward those looking for a MR device but more for a private Media Viewer.
Its interesting device category, your quick reviews are excellent, it would be nice if there is a chance you could review more of this type of devices like the GOOVIS ones maybe.
I have backed too many Kickstarterr projects that went bust. Many promises (enlargeing the screen with a handgesture in that first video), a startup company founded in 2018 without its own website, no previous projects, I can't find anything about the name Stephany Clark attached to the company. Far too many red flags for me.
Mind you, I could be wrong and in the future we'll see kids everywhere running happily into oncoming traffic while watching Netflix. Iin that case: Am I the only one feeling lots of court cases coming up?
This is a proto type
"You will still see a nice picture" *Video of lady puking into the toilet*
Haha
I paused the video to make this exact comment. 🤣
Really excited for microled to come to VR headsets! (Consumer ones anyway haha)
Note they only have 1080p (2k) displays in each eye. The resolution does not double when you present the same image to each eye, it stays the same. So it is not a "4K" display. Secondly, the 800-inch is from 20 meters away (as in a movie theater). Not off to a good start in terms of their claims.
Their claims and advertising are certainly misleading. The screen appearing to be 800" would only be feasible if they were using light field optics to allow the focal plane to appear far enough away. In the demo it looks like a virtual focal plane of about a meter so the equivalent of a 32" display. As you mentioned only 1080p per eye and to achieve a pixel density PPI of 3147 would require a screen of .7 inches. At 28" the PPI is 78 and at 800" as they claim it would be a PPI of 2.75.
Helping out with the yt alg ;) and thanks for your VR content.
While we can't travel much now, this would be excellent on a long plane journey. Thanks for the video
This would be nice for a person who travels a lot for work. Watching this on a plane would be cool.
Would I be able to connect it to a desktop? I build a mini pc that I use is my car and it being a useful as portable monitor would be perfect, instead of using 10.1" monitor.
A honest review thanks.
Wouldn’t you get dizzy if you move your head and the screen moves along with you ?
Great for my wife who likes to watch movies on her phone.
Also great on the train, airplane or other similar longer trips.
When you showed portrait phone screen inside the glasses, the black part of the OLED screen had a glow or greyish shade, so its not 100% black in dark scenes like OLED TV? I have heard same about other glasses with OLED displays that they are not 100% black when running.
Thanks to your videos It helped me to decide not get the index and get the G2.
Can this use virtual desktop or sbs 3d movies or UA-cam videos?
Please try if resolution is high enough for working with samsung Dex! Also,: does it work outside as a drone viewport? Maybe with some black covers?
is deca goinna send you a headset or what
need to know about comfort. the nreal glasses really hurt my nose and leave massive painful nose dents after an hour
Great video.
Too expensive but it will advance the technology and popularity, which is what we need. Lets hope many more developers jump on the band wagon. I can't wait to see what will be coming out in the near future!
I'm new to kickstarter and do not really understand how they work: is it possible to purchase this currently?
Would this be useful as a PC display?
Cool!
Would the picture still be visible outside on a relatively sunny day?
I just can’t get enthusiastic about these ar glasses until field of view is near human (what you’d expect from your day to day life). It’s so critical for using your soace and having entities nested in your world that they don’t cut off in your view.
looks interesting! I love that vr is getting lighter and lighter excited to see what comes by end of year hopefully designer glasses with vr built in not weighing more than a few grams
This ain't vr. It's ass
@AuraBless not VR glasses. Not really
@@Simlife101 yeahhh this aged well
Compare G2 is it good quality?
Black mirror, good stuff. About the ppi, I'd rather know the resolution and display size but I wouldn't be surprised if that's not on the kickstarter
We need these type of VR glasses for games like VR Chat etc on PC. Ready Player One. Lol.
No backing anymore from me! Still haven't got anything from Tilt5. Payed 1500 $. Pimax was a bad too!
@@Gandalf721 If I can't see it, touch it, and buy/use it now I'm not paying a penny for it. That's what you guys do, good luck with that, Industry NEEDS suckers. I see you two have already been burnt, lesson learnt eh?.
This fucking company is already bullshitting prospective clients right out of the gate by showing people "stretching" the picture using their fingers. I wouldn't trust this shitstorm as far as I can spit. Say thanks to Seb for saving you your money and embarrassment!.
I still think it is good to support innovative small companies that would not exist without kickstarter, but totally understand the hesitation when you made bad experiences.
I like this Cyberpunk style glasses
It's very interesting
But is it work with Windows or Mac systems?
Does it support stereoscopic 3D movies?
I'll wait a couple generations but yeah I like that
The same thing is basically available now, called Mad Gaze Glow Plus, same FOV, 1080P micro-LED, with barely functional gesture control and 3-DOF head tracking, was on Kickstarter in 2019, I've been trying it on my phone and laptop for about a week
and how is it? how is the comfort? nreal glasses really hurt my nose bridge after an hour leave deep welts on my nose
Can't the quest2 do that at a slightly reduced resolution?
It's the formfactor and the picture quality. And that you can connect your phone!
Can it play Stereo 3D movies?
Nah., priced way to high for what it does (doesn't) I'll wait till v. 3 if they're still around by then, you guys go ahead....
i wonder how much the price could be reduced if a big company takes on a proyect like this? i think it''s the perfect time for personal viewers to take of since the technology is right there and people consume media through portable devices like tablets/phones. Having a gigantic screen that fits in a pocket is very compeiling.
Nreal Light or this if work with pc will be great as monitor i gues or playstatiın some like usb c or hdmi :-( i will realy love to use all my plugins around me with nreal or front of me big clear screen with this
That is monitor in the glass. But it shows 3d movie?
This might be pretty neat if you are often on the go travelling or pendeling places for a bit longer period but want to play or watch something and don't really like to hold the device up to an comfortable height or look down at phone/switch or whatever for example in a Train or Plane, maybe in a Hotelroom aswell. But for home usage i would say 500$ is a bit much compared to an high quality Monitor.
"Picture quality is really good" can you please elaborate? What does the resolution look like? 1080p? 4k? How does it stack up against a 4k Oled tv like the LG CX?
should be as good as Quest 2 with that price
@@moncimoov same thoughts
1:00 "resolution over 3000ppi" - PPI does not matter. What's the angular size of pixel ?
It matters, 3000 PPI is density, at 3000 PPI density its like human eye clarity, the oleds are very very small, sony had something like this years ago, it was HMZ T and it had also 3000 ppi as this is what it needs to be at human eye level
@@As_Ss You just can't measure clarity in raw PPI. You should use "pixel angular size" at least for phrases like "human eye clarity"
For example: 25ppi on a laptop screen at 50cm from your eye (1°8'45" per pixel) will look blurry, but the same 25ppi at movie theater screen from 10m range (0°0'21" per pixel) will look like "human eye clarity" and above it.
Lol how many people will walk into traffic with these?
Really cool tech for what it does. Sure it has limitations. Thank you for pointing out what it does not do in addition to it's strong points.
Wearing them in public, people will assume you are blind... and not be completely wrong.
Is it heavy on the phone's battery, does the phone get hot.🤔
if this is similar to the mad gaze glow plus, it drains my battery by 1% every 1-2 minutes on a less than 1 year old OnePlus 7 Pro, would not use this outdoors without a way to recharge the phone
Only 800"? I demand a virtual screen so large that no matter how much I move I never leave the middle of it. At least couple solar systems wide.
I actually had time to watch the video now and I don't get it. If it has no 6DOF cameras or AR capability, then how the f*** can it be 800"? That's not possible. The size comes from comparing your head movement to the projected virtual screen. If the screen is glued to your head then it moves with your head, which means it's just the size it physically is. In that case only spec that matters is the degrees of view the screen can fill, the distance the screen is from your eyes (since your eye can't see as clearly too close in) and the resolution it can hold.
Specs say this thing has 53° FOV. For resolution it only says 4K, so we'll assume the screen is 3840x2160. That's same as viewing 55" 4K TV 4 feet (~120cm) away.
That's 72.4 pixels per degree. That's actually an insane number compared to any VR headsets, where even the latest ones only offer around 20 PPD and 1st gen VR only gave around 10 PPD.
So, while the 800" screen is obviously bullshit, this seems like a decent product for what it is, meaning virtual close up high resolution monitor / TV. Why not just say it directly and instead spin all this advertising bullshit?
I was informed it's not even 4K screens but 2x FullHD screens. So... Everything I said but divide with 2. Also it's not even that great anymore.
Actually it is! You got 2 solar system wide virtual screen (* from distance of 120au) 😉
Nothing about the weight or comfort??
My new sunglasses 2021.
not that anyone will see this comment but- god I hope this guy blows up and gets a million subscribers. All of his work is solid. He has a engineering background so when he talks about strength and weaknesses of headsets hes talking about the actual intellectual design and how to improve its faults or get around the faults. like 1000% trust everything he says. Im a modder personally and looking to start making my own video game and thinking about making it VR compatible so naturally Ive been looking to get a good vr headset to test it and I think i landed on HP reverb G2 but i have watched tons of his videos now even after my decision just cuz i love to see whats new and his delivery.
I've been wanting a movie headset for a while but this bullshit marketing around size. 800 inches at a small FoV is going to feel like what 55" at 4 metres?
just buy quest 2
@@moncimoov yeah that's a very strong argument but for the fact Facebook are scum......but it's still very tempting lol
They are really innovative, but at $850 (non-kickstarter price) they are pricing themselves out of the market from day one. This is basically a portable screen. Which can be had for $250. Double that would be reasonable for the innovative form-factor. More than triple? Thats a bit much.
@@Gandalf721 I disagree on "worth the cost". It's only HD 1920x1080 per eye (not 4K), only 60Hz, only 3DOF so you have to constantly move your eyes to see everything (highly fatiguing). I'd pay maybe $199. But, to be honest I'd rather save wasting any money on this toy, for an actually usable solution like the upcoming Panasonic VR Viewer with 2560x2560 per eye, 120Hz, and (importantly) 6DOF!
Btw with these glasses you look like a cyclop from X-men
surprised something like this hasn't been made sooner, but expensive just to watch movies
These types of technologies have been out for probably 20 years. There have been many iterations of head-based "theater screen" displays over the years. This one is quite slim and attractive though.
Can they be used to view 3D movies?
There would need to be some video player app sending the different images to left and right eye. Theoretically should be possible but they don't mention 3D as a feature anywhere so doubtful.
make more videos about nreal ....pls
9:19 "You will see a very nice picture" as you see a woman literally puking into a toilet lol...
Nice product at 300€ is good but for start it's good price need to work more on the design and good one
Now put a vive tracker on it, I'm joking...
price doesnt justify its limited useage.
😃👌👍
Waiting for LetinAR, i don't like glasses when you feel locked up, inside a box, cutting me from reality
I'll just wait for Apple glasses.
Nice! You can also connect it to a PC with USB-C, right?
Oh...but isn't this way too expensive, without sound and tracking?
I guess we need cheaper devices...
Nreal lite!
These products need to be $250 range. Quest 2 is $400.
Add one of the new TINY Steam Tracking Pucks, create an Overlay Plugin for Steam and by SENDING the VIDEO as having 'moved' the same but opposite amount as yoyr head, it is 180° (even 360°) AR & VR ... True Mixed Reality. About 2 hours work... WHY HAVE THEY NOT THOUGHT OF THAT? If they don't: I WILL!
Nope, I only watch one or 2 movies a month, and then with full surround sound. An AR version with good software would be compelling.
I cant stand using phone all day, this will definitely improve ergonomics
But definitely cut battery time
So these glasses don't even have a 3DOF tracking? So we've done a full 10 year cycle. Cause these personal viewers were a hit in 2011.. Sony HMZ-1, Vuzix Wear, Imagine Z800 you name it.
Here's a review from 2011 ... ua-cam.com/video/rYHQhXfoaMY/v-deo.html not a lot of progress done here
Wow, thats really scammy kickstarter to put up a video for a totally different product. Also the resolution is not 4k? Its stated as 3840*1080 ? Thats only 4mp, not 8mp. And i assume this is for both eyes, so the actual real resolution is 1920x1080. So its 2MP. Not even close to 4k.
$500+ 🤣😂😭😭 get BENT!! I rather use my Samsung Gear VR lol. ... thanks for the info Sab. but ill pass
Too expensive, NReal Light is going to be $499 to get some AR features (and you can have multiple phone screens floating in front of you, not just one!), or cheaper with a phone plan. I will say, I have an NReal Light, and the picture quality is downright amazing for AR. I could see myself watching movies on it. No HDR though.
well you no me seb, i speak my honest opinion, the 800" seems like a load off bs more like 100", no info on input lag for gaming, hdr, its only 1080p, why they say 4k is bs, you cant charge it outside phone, so no go on a power brick??, promo video is a lie, not a great start i wont be kick starting.
looks like they say "4K" because it's 2 screens 1920x1080 so 3840x1080, and 3840 is «4k» 😆
@@sergeikulikov4412 its called bullshit, they say it to make it sound better than it is, i had a panasonic plasma 3d tv that was 1080p, the glasses where active so i got 1080p in each eye, it doesnt make it 4k though, but people fall for this rubbish
Cheaper than epson bt40
Some noise in comments
Yay, thanks!
Think they are kidding themselves.
Expect a hell of a lot more for that sort of money.
Oh wow, they're still trying to push this crap? These kind of glasses have been around since uh.. the 90's (Sony Glasstron stands out iirc), admittedly with lower resolution, but not really 25+ years worth of changes. These aren't even close to true 4k res (3840x1080- guys, you're missing an extra 1080 on horizontal!) yet they keep claiming they are, but hey, at least they are OLED.. at 60hz with no mention of response rate. To make matters worse, they retail for close to the price of a G2 and definitely in line with the price of the G1. To be clear, the early bird special with it's 38% discount is $529 USD, which means that when the EM3's go to market, they'll be well over $650 USD!! If these were say, 150-300 bucks, sure, i could see the appeal maybe, but right now they seem like a modern rehash of a failed product, especially when you consider that the quest 2 actually has a higher res than these do and is a fraction of the price. I do not believe the SDE claim either. Even the reverb at 300% ss still has SDE in the sweetspot (even though it will make your computer want to die). I can smell a lot of these on the horizon though, Panasonics looks like it'll be the best spec wise as of right now!
Not a particularly compelling product at that price point. Give it a higher resolution with at least 144 refresh rate at that price and it would be an alternative to a gaming monitor.
size of virtual screen is not mind blowing and looks basic and the fov is small. if they could improve on these points and include some AR gaming options then they should be in business.
Seems like something that'd be great for those that travel alot for work while being kinda pointless for anyone else.
too expensive
Yes, too expensive for what it is. Only HD 1920x1080 per eye (not 4K), only 60Hz, only 3DOF so you have to constantly move your eyes to see everything (highly fatiguing). I'd pay maybe $199. But, to be honest I'd rather save wasting any money on this toy, for a proper actually usable solution like the upcoming Panasonic VR Viewer with 2560x2560 per eye, 120Hz, and (importantly) 6DOF!
1080p portable display for over 500? Yeah no
It's tiring to see these disingenuous marketing videos.
The device looks decent on its own, it doesn't need these ridiculous marketing deceptions.
How are they being deceiving? I'm curious
Edit: oh yes, now I got it! The main marketing video...
@@UnknownDino Same thing Google pulled with Google Glass, and Microsoft with HoloLens, etc
As has been commented every time this shows up in a Facebook ad, nobody should be buying this over a Quest 2. You are paying more for less capability.
The 2 aren't really comparable, they are very different devices for very different consumers.
I personally would go quest 2 all the way but I can see the appeal of something like this for certain people. The form factor is definitely a huge benefit, if you're someone that travels a lot on public transport then this would be much more reasonable than a quest 2.
Huh? This is a totally different product. I'm not going to wear a Quest on the plane to watch movies or play games, heck I'm not going to use a Quest to watch UA-cam at home. And I don't have any way to play console games on my Quest, except maybe emulation. This device is a replacement for a 60" to 70" TV.
Way too expensive, I personally would rather buy a quest 2 at half the price and stick some movies on that, and it's like being in a proper cinema rather than just having a screen glued to your face.
@@Gandalf721 These have much lower resolution than the Q2, much lower FOV, only 3dof tracking, no controller support, see through images in bright light. Don't buy into the marketing BS about 800" screens, you can make an 800" screen in the Q2 or any other headset. The displays in this thing are only 1080p, the "4k" comes from adding the width up of the two 1080p displays.
@@Gandalf721 Just my opinion, I think they are kinda comparable, Quest does a lot more for less money, Can have a full size cinema screen, but is quite a lot more bulky if you wanted to sit on the bus and watch film.. which I would never do.
I could never be happy watching films on a 24" TV Now It would definitely have to be 55" and above and They definitely ain't comparable your right.. But something you put on face to consume media surely is comparable?
We still see this "x inches from x meters away" nonsense in 2021.
Better, we got "x inches" without any "y meters away" 😑
500 € much too expensive!
800'' with 1920x1080 is barely 3 PPI 💩
Nah, it doesn't work like that.
@@As_Ss PPI stands for «Pixels Per Inch» if the screen is 800 inches wide and has resolution of 1920x1080 pixels it HAS 2.75ppi. That's pure math!
How comes "it doesn't work like that"? How do you think it works?
These Are pretty useless if you can’t connect them into Blu-ray player for 3d blurays or to a pc for some 3d gaming.
sunglasses. 450$... just because u can watch movie from ur phone .. super expensive for gimmick... better save ur money for q2
200$ ok, 500$? no thanks. no tracking no AR…
third!! :DDD
Really annoyed at this "800 inch" nonsense. What is the field of view and image distance? PPI is equally meaningless.
53°
@@sergeikulikov4412 Found that on the campaign page. With no illustration of whether it's horisontal, diagonal, or vertical. I'm going to guess diagonal, because the whole campaign seems designed by marketing people.
@@0LoneTech That would be a shame. I believe it should be horizontal, but who knows what those marketing men are capable of
Don't get these. I checked their page and it's obviously a scam. Their specs are woo unrealistic that it makes no sense to what their company is claining
800" unrealistic
second :D
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First!
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Never kicksharter
garbage, get a quest 2, just because you look like jordi from startrek doesn't make it any better, just another headset TV, amazon is filled with them