Building A RELAY Sequencer For My Synth PART 2
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Building a Relay Based Step Sequencer PART 2
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What would you have done in that plonker moment i had in the vid? what a plonker hey!!!!
lcd
Vacuum fluorescent display!
Electro Luminescent Display =D
The one with that cowgirls boot going up n down
I don’t know, what you do is boggling and this stuff is extremely fascinating.
I will actually come to England for the first time just to see your museum
I've been all over the world, few years ago vowed I was done and would never travel again. Probably going to go back on my word just to go to the museum.
Keep an ear out for word plonker being used in the wild.
I'm lucky, it's pretty close to me!
hehe wont happen, covid will keep you at home.
idk why but those relay clicks are one of the most satisfying sounds ever to exist, great job
It’s like a tiny Harley Davidson revving up
Missed steps could be due to contact bounce at high speeds. you'll probably find a max operational speed on the datasheet for those relays
I have no idea whats going on but it looks cool and fun
Me with every video on this channel. Watch every one 🤷♂️
Amazing work as usual! Quick suggestion: Stick labels for the clock buffer and step number boards onto the front window, same as for the other boards. Even though those boards don't have any interactive controls, labeling them would be an educational improvement worthy of a museum.
How about adding a microphone output to the box so you can get the lovely relay sounds into the mix and maybe process them with other modules?
Agreed, having the rythem and sounds of the relays as part of a track being played by the sequencer would be awesome
Your builds are proof that art can really be anything.
Art is the expression of self. How ever you define your self in an expression is the Art and variety is the spice of life. the universe happens in variation, the imbalance is balanced, the wheel in the sky keeps on turning. click click
"The rattling of the relays of the Z4 [relay computer] was the only interesting thing to be experienced in Zurich's night life” - Konrad Zuse
I hope some day you will solder all the great little things together to create the biggest modular system ever over multiple rooms
16:42 I spent my childhood at telephone station (named "commutator") where father worked and I still like that sounds :)
This thing is BEAUTIFUL. Sam its one of your nicest builds yet, and your solution to the inverted board was actually a really nice touch, I cant wait to see what you do with it next
Good old Radio Shack 276-1588 protoboard. Built a lot of stuff on those...
This is a relay version of the 595 chip. Due! Too awesome!
Cable lacing would fit the build and look sweet.
yeah i was gunna do that but i suck at it ha
And just like that, LOOK MUM & “Clicky McKlickity” change the meaning of the phrase “Click Bait” forever!
New meaning = LOVE!
If you had the time, I think it would be great if you were to do a 'basics' series, to explain to us who don't know much about synths/electronics wtf is going on.
I watch your videos regardless, it would just be cool to get some of that background prerequisite knowledge from the master!
Those clicks are so satisfying!!
Relays are fun 😄
keep it neat and tidy. Nice work!
4:30 Sounds just like my brain on coffee.
“Platinum Plonker” is my new favorite phrase!
Gold-plated
You said "feng shui', but if it's not perfect think 'wabi-sabi (侘寂)'. Love the content. x
As a young lad (now 55) I read how the Harvard Mark-I (an early electro-mechanical computer composed of thousands of relays) sounded like a room full of chattering teeth or women knitting. This had fascinated me ever since. You truly have made a useful machine of art. Well done!
Put a mic pre in there with a dynamic mic, and another with a piezo which you can use to EQ and mix the mechanical sounds into the audio.
4:20 single cylinder 4 stroke
4:27 6.2 liter V8 idling
Gotta love this thing!
When you said Numitron, my mind instantly jumped to the Nimo tubes. For a second, I was so excited.
can't beat the sound of relays
Man that relay sound is so mesmerizing. I love it :-D
It's absolutely mad and steampunk - and I LOVE it
They say that sequencers are just controllers and produce no sound. They were wrong.
At high speed it sounds like that guy's audio-visual representations of engine layouts videos
I now know what the sound of pure click joy is. @4:22
Im still waiting for u to make a relay/solinoid electro acoustic drum box😃
like this? ua-cam.com/video/VLroMYb-xH8/v-deo.html
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER kinda but more like actuators shaking and tapping things of different material 😃 piezo miced of course! Tap tap tick tick thud thud
@@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER Not seen that one before, sounds awesome. You could have solinoids hitting 40cm square of different materials to make up a drum kit (like squares of perspex, 1mm steel, 4mm steel, 9mm plywood, 18mm MDF)
Love how at high speed it sounds like an engine! Those relays are like teeny tiny pistons! It looks and sounds amazing! Love the old school electronics vibes! ❤️
Yeah, it's sorta like a straight eight engine ;).
Where is your museum at? And is it open to the public? I would love to come see it someday!
Who needs a synthesizer when your sequencer already synthesizes the greatest beats on the planet?
I'm old AF and I love this as it looks like the displays we had at my Uni.
It sounds like a sewing machine.
I've seen professionals not managing their wires that well. Well done! Gorgeous bit of kit too.
The other version has soldered in relays and comes with the internet troll decal applied to the plexi.
Relays usually mechanically last 10's of millions of cycles if done right. Contacts are another matter. Relay computers from the 1960's are still working today.
When your sequencer is so fast and mechanical, it doubles up as an audio rate oscillator !
Awesome work Sam, love it :-)
Love your vids, Man, and props for the nod to the awesome Fran Blanche.
Surprised none of the relays have broken yet?.............Omron relays, that's all I'm saying.
This looks and sounds lovely btw:)
If you're still working on the project.... a future mod could be a secondary Numitron 0-1 on/off bit display box for each of the relays.
Although, it might end up being a computer..... lol
Sounds like a mini Stirling Engine
A relay sound is one of my best satisfying sound EVER.
Half electric half mechanic, pure perfection
Something I would LOVE to do is to crank them like a V8 engine spark plug sequence order to listen the sound at high speed : 1-8-4-3-6-7-5-2
Like that :
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I can hear 'Bob Moog' and 'Don Buchla' laughing 'heartily'!Great Stuff!
I thought about building a 'spinning-magnet',with 'reed-relays',some years' ago? : )
Oh, brilliant idea I just had. Build one with silent relays with 3 numbers on a stand for a speed o meter for an antique car.
Neon tube cascades are *incredibly* finicky and they only output capacitively coupled transient pulses, which would make them difficult to use in a sequencer. If you do go that route and you select NE-2s, I've had some luck powering them using an 85A2 VR tube; their ignition voltage is about 90V and their sustain voltage is about 70V, and the 85A2 in particular outputs 85V, so it's good for biasing them to criticality. But honestly I'd stick with the relays, they are much easier to work with.
4:26 sounds like my car
14:12 I feel your pain
I wanted some Nixie tubes but now I need the Numitron.
I rue the day I was told "We're not taking that old[Jen Synthitone 2000] keyboard to the new house!" Oh for that little power-pack back!
I laughed when you said “They may break” from the usage, even harder when I saw the [Will*] .
My career is sound and electronics and basically everything you play around with. Its great to see someone with the same enthusiasm and respect for the little behind the scenes “ticks” that have kept the modern world going.
Finding your channel recently has given me some enthusiasm to try something new and find joy in the small things again.
Keep up your hard work, keep the brain healthy, keep on jamming. Your music is crystal clear, the flow and rhythm is living.
You actually orchestrate rather than just create music, it’s brilliant. Thank you for displaying it.
1) Fran from Frantone (and more lately, FranLab) would probably love that display unit (tube? bulb?) 2) That thing, when running at a slightly higher speed, sounds like a radial aircraft engine
Stupid Me is my favorite jam. I rock it all the time. Love it man.
Hey!! "turn your damn blinker off" lol Good job. I totally dig the upside down counter build, i do that kinda thing all the time... frustrating moment for sure... Great build. love the relay especially in time like that. Incorporating the pendulum into it would be awesome. Forget about 8 bit analog, relay analog or go home hahaha!
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If you can find somewhere ripping out an old control panel (alas, not my job these days) you can get hundreds of DIN rail mounted relays for free/next to nothing. They're often SPST though.
This video looked like a deep fake. Neat wiring, choosing safety over curiosity regarding children's fingers and solenoids... But it ended well... It's our favourite plonker from the museum of everything else.
Chain this down so that Hainbach can't borrow it (without your approval - STEAL IT), but do add some mics/mic sockets for him to record it.
Maybe you can make it so that when there is more than one step the numatron only shows 1-4. Or, perhaps you could make it count from the "clock" and do 1-8.
DUDE! Those are way cooler looking than nixie tubes! Much brighter and you dont have those layers. They look better to me at least.
What fun! You really need to find a book from Oxford Uni Press called we made our own computers. All built out of relays and right down to the basics. When I was a kid I got this from the library multiple times, probably the only person that did, never understood any of it. But a couple of years back I found a copy in a book sale and now I actually do understand what on earth they were going on about.
One of those electro mechanical 7 segment displays would have been very cool as the display........
I know ive said this before, but If like.... aliens need a representative of humanity, and we have to send someone, i think it should be Sam
like, it would be a really safe bet, because I couldnt imagine Sam every being accidentally like (insert bad thing) racist or any of the ists lol
Sam would also make humans seem smarter cause he knows a lot about stuff
generally nice dude (if hes not id be shocked, ive never met him but he cant fake being this nice and cool eventually it would come out or we would hear bad things about this guy and nobody ever talks trash on this guy)
anyways, so my vote for EarthRepresentative would be Sam
holy moly I can' t believe I wasn' t subscribed! Now that I've corrected that, I'm wondering about adding a sound hole mesh in the acrylic so the display can let out more of that glorious clickyclicky?
I should add that I'm a total geek and proud!
Sounds like the telephone facilities I worked in 2 decades ago. Rows of cabinets with relays processing a part of the city.
I also built electro-mechanical systems with these components and lego when I was six. My father had this stuff lying around and also thought the principles of pulleys and gears. I know the sound of lego imploding under tremendous forces because a sensor, taped to it, failed to switch a relay.
from start - it sounds like old russian folk song playing on old abandoned space station falling in flames and glory from skies to Pacific Ocean. I salut respect it (and you, crazy vacuumtuber astronaut) )))
That is an absolute thing of beauty. There is certainly something mesmerising about the sound of a relay clicking; I still remember driving my siblings crazy after buying my first relay as a kid and constantly activating it with a couple of AA batteries in a holder. Clickety clickety!
I SWEAR, I can play the relay sequencer a whole day. I fucking love your stuff
You should check out franlabs, she has some awesome displays, and a groovy video about diode steering. You should talk about the diode steering used in that circuit to make the numbers
The version of "Stupid Me" instrumental in the beginning is cool. Is the full version available somewhere? I like the sort of electric guitar solo bit. I see the instrumental version of the regular song, but this one is different (??).
Why is it that every time I see this mad-scientist/genius at work, I'm reminded of that resourceful mechanic dude from "The Road Warrior"?
When it's running at a good clip (16:49) it sounds almost exactly like an old scooter I used to have. Seriously.
I had an idea! What if you stuck a piezo or two inside the box to get all the clicky goodness, then send that to a resonant filter of some sort, maybe a bandpass, and have the CV out from the potentiometers control the cutoff? You’d get a really awesome pinged percussion machine!
It's really amazing, what can be done with relays. What's next, a drum machine, made with clock parts?
i bet if anyone could make a home made bucket brigade with all 1024 caps and transistors its you . i just love watching your videos they make me want to build stuff too.
The small socket mount type of relay that you are using are affected by circuit board or cabinet vibration, even if you soldered them directly to the breadboard - maybe even more so. If the cabinet back reaches a harmonic resonance with the speed of the relays this may be the cause of the dropped bit. Where you are losing the bit is right around the dead center of the back panel. One solution I can think of is to add doubling strips on the back side of the back board. This wont get rid of resonant vibrations but it will change the frequency (upward) that the harmonic vibrations respond.
You are genius 🙇♂️
Does remind me of all those background lights blinking away in the bridge of the original Starship Enterprise in the classic Star Trek series.
Space: The final frontier!
Amazing... Add a piezo and spring reverb... So you can listen the relay on its own....
14:54 "platinum plonker" - It's worth a double like!!! :-)
Any chance of a relay drum machine at some point? Where it creates rhythms purely from amplified relay clicks.
Different sizes of relay could be used as different "drums"
Sam, save money on cable ties by 3D printing them, there are loads of different designs and sizes on Thangs and you can play with the augmented reality on Thangs as well!
You had 606 likes, and I didn’t want to ruin the link to the project, seeing as a 606 is also a sequencer, but not liking seemed more wrong sooooo ...
At this point you could build an RTX 3080 using wood, nails and bird guano and I wouldn't be surprised one bit.
Connect relay moving part to drum and make relay electromechanical drum machine...
yes mate. you made it as far as me. this means you are officially fucking everywhere.... because i am well, not anywhere... this video is perfect and the previous one. so happy it see it all, all the talk of museums and everything that you do... thanks
That just screams for a few piezo discs glued to the back to be used as contact mics... Then you could send that audio to a filter that is controlled by the sequencer itself. :D
please bend the leads on submini tubes 2-3mm away from the bulb. The numitron leads might break at the seam :)
WAIT, where can we find this Stupid Me version ?
dude what the fuck are you? I just got recommended your channel and every video in my recommended has gotten my attention. Can't wait to check all these out.
Now that's a brilliant idea :)
Keep tech simple!
At 8:00 don't the skip ones technically go to the switch of the next one, not straight to the input? Cause if they went directly to the input then wouldn't that make it impossible to have 2 in a row set to skip? I believe this is what you show right after with the actual wires, just wanting to make sure
put in a little mirror to go with the smoke when the relays finally blow up (not sure where or how, but it sounded as if it had potential)
I find it interesting that with only 1 step in the sequence, there's an audible difference in tone between the top and bottom row of relays. The top row sounds brighter.
4:10 why is it that it can be so satisfying to just watch and hear that clicking...
edit: *discovers at the end exactly the section wished upon* clicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclicketyclickety :D:D:D:D:D:D
All I cna think about on these electro mechanical things is Money by Pink Floyd.
How long is this museum going to be running for?
I would love to visit it one day while I'm traveling.
I was expecting you to use a flipp-counter, so that it would be independent of the relays.