Xaryu nailed it in his react: if it isn't done true SSF, you know that someone in Fangs or Fangsly is gonna buy gold and trade it to people in the guild. So they can buy as much vendor stuff as possible, etc. Also, allowing people to trade between characters = bank alt toons. Gold or gear drops will be sent to a bank alt for the GoAgane.
Thing is do they want a HC experience or they just want streamer experience, to a lot of viewers who watches wow and the wow people, they genuinely want to do SSF because it's fair. But you have to take in OnlyFanga was created in mind to throw people who don't know anything to minimal wow experience and knowledge into the game because it will be funny to watch deaths and then to attempt a raid, now lot of people will prolly go for SSF at first but if they aren't good at the game and RIP constantly they won't have the motivation to play, reason why chance is struggling to find a middle ground to keep people motivated
There is no chance he can make a self found guild. There will be cheating and everyone will know about it and they will keep playing. Just like how people could die with the Addon and still keep playing, people always cheat where possible.
They will mob tag, buy gold, fireyweapon, viewer body guards ect. He's even chosing his words and saying for now or "only if allowed" because... They will mob tag and take donations ect getting to 60 is actually hard
Soda was the one who did the majority of the gold buying last time. Let's not forget that he was almost banned for it. So, this time around, the risk outweighs the reward for anyone who isn't a newb when buying gold. Blizzard will ban people this time around.
@@Nesquenah my friend got banned buying gold in classic era, they don't constantly ban people but they do ban waves. I would say it's something like 1 in every 20 gold buyers get banned. I agree that soda was to set an example tho.
@@davidsantiago7808 He didn't even get banned though. They just took his gold away. That whole situated showed everyone that blizzard are tolerant of gold buying.
@@Nesqueyeah they always have been, they just do ban waves as a show of good faith to players, but it's always been allowed under the table. Some wow devs were being paid off by gold buying sites to not ban their people a while back. It's still a risk but it's not impossible either.
@@Nesque You are talking alot of BS, i have friends that tried buying gold ONCE and instanly got banned for it for atleast 3 days. I also know people who buy gold for like 2-3 years and havent been banned once, but what you are saying is 1000000% wrong and im shocked with that confident you say it
The Hyena aggro range is actually pretty long. They probably catch people on the run down from Xroads to Taurajo. Hyenas and Kodo cross some parts of the path
This is literally their job though. This whole thing gives everyone hella views. Anyone willing to quit that easy should prob figure something else out
I think mobtagging should be allowed only in very special cases, like last time, without mobtagging Rav the avatar, master of the hardcore elements wouldn't have been able to be there in the raid, also he died to some bullshit hitbox not even close to the onyxia guards in stormwind.
There is only 1 horde guild that's killed KT on HC. Horde are just so much worse in PVE. No salv, more importantly : No kings. Kings is arguably the most important buff since it just enhances all of those world buffs you'll always have for progression.
@@wasteland1151 i dont agree, the real poe2 release will effect lots of streamers and lots of "im gonna play the flavor of the month" ppl that jump from game to game. remember when d4 got released ? everyone and thier mom played it and thats a shitty game.
@lolleonlolable I'm still playing d4 to this day. It was shitty but has gotten a lot better since release. I quit for like 3 seasons though because it was hot garbage. POE2 does not interest me at all in any way shape or form.
Probably Rag again, if they even manage to get all the people up to Rag without mob tagging etc... they were only able to do it, becasue they mob tagged alot of the people up to 60 before
If it's not SSF then the gold sellers are prep and ready go to give OnlyFANGS all the gold and boost they need. also the viewers of the streamers will be giving tons of handout as well so by that point it's not even hc. i have alot of respect for Guzu one of the best hc streamers out there but Soda is just gold buying trash.
Thing is Soda wants OnlyFanga to be a thing only for consumables if they don't have like a guild alechmist or enchanter they are just going to have that sister guild strictly for that which can be iffy as well, he's most likely going to keep reading within the guild. It's hard to do SSF considering the people who are playing, as a wow player and sweat it's fair but if you're throwing people who have no experience to little experience it's hard to keep them motivated if they know nothing
Different from Alliance to Horde: UC Elevators TB Elevators 1k Needles Elevators Skull Rock (Durotar final quest) South Shore Alliance Guard (Hillsbrad Foothills) Refuge Point Alliance Guard (Arathi Highlands). Stormpike Alliance Guard (Alterac Mountains) You CAN aggro the Dwarf guards in the tunnels around Wetlands and Loch Modan when running the first time to Badlands. If you're close enough they WILL aggro onto you and they WILL force PvP. Don't believe other people. I have tested. They WILL aggro onto you if you get close enough. These are the main ones that stick out to me.
If it’s not ssf it’s boring to watch people who’ve played the game for 20 years. Why watch someone who knows the game inside and out with fiery enchants, crusaders etc it’s ridiculous.
The actual difference between horde and alliance is that horde has a large quest drought from level 15-30+ where you pretty much only have Barrens and the start of hillsbrad in the early-mid twenties. So where alliance can skip many of the more dangerous quests in an area by just going somewhere else, horde can't you either have to do the quests or grind it out, quests are faster at that level but also alot more risky than just grinding mobs hence horde being more difficult overall. Early game has always been more difficult than late game, because you have such few skills and shit gear you're just less likely to survive any given encounter. Alliance also has a quest drought, but it's 30-40 bracket so grinding mobs is first of all alot more viable as an alternative but the characters are also just alot more likely to survive overall.
"you pretty much only have Barrens and the start of hillsbrad in the early-mid twenties" Were you doing some kind of challenge where you weren't allowed to go to Stonetalon Mountains or Ashenvale?
saying Xaryu can play anything , soda really dont know this man lol. but in the other end Xaryu wouldnt play Mage anyway or even if he's playing he will act like a noob just because he's to good with mage lmao...
@@kaze3766 idk its a dumb rule for those specific reasons, but its probably there so that the weaker players can try out those classes without forcing them to stack whatever the better players dont pick in terms of classes. I don't think it will inherently change any dynamics in terms of the raids strength other than the individual contributions that the class can bring in comparison to player skill, which really only matter in this setting for a few dps, most healers and the two primary tanks.
It's honestly not that crazy. They don't "know nothing" it's a 20 year old game. Even without guides you have soaked passive knowledge. I have never played Feral a day in my life and I know that the 2h mace from Gnomer is meta even at 60. There are guides literally everywhere and most classes boil down to the same functions.
@@michielankersmit8656 I hate to inform you, but the game really is not that hard to pick up. Like most the game for a DPS boils down 1121121121212 type rotations while occasionally hitting a cool down. There are a vast amount of resources that automate more intricate functions like addons and macros. You don't have to be a veteran WoW player to look at a guide and follow it. Actual mushbrained nonsense.
@@michielankersmit8656 The game is not hard. The barrier to entry is low because the game is 20 years old and all the info has been available for over a decade.
why you want Guzu skip one of the biggest content creator gathering ? he literally can have more viewer from it alot of viewer is trying to watch anyone in Onlyfangs just because their streamer is not online yet,but wanted to see the progress on the guild.
Wow players and racism has a long history together, they go hand in hand, its probably a top racists hobby look at how many people watch asmondgold and look how many people spapm the n word if they see a brown person
Xaryu nailed it in his react: if it isn't done true SSF, you know that someone in Fangs or Fangsly is gonna buy gold and trade it to people in the guild. So they can buy as much vendor stuff as possible, etc. Also, allowing people to trade between characters = bank alt toons. Gold or gear drops will be sent to a bank alt for the GoAgane.
They struggled so hard leveling last time, that even without SSF this will be hard for the non-sweats
Thing is do they want a HC experience or they just want streamer experience, to a lot of viewers who watches wow and the wow people, they genuinely want to do SSF because it's fair. But you have to take in OnlyFanga was created in mind to throw people who don't know anything to minimal wow experience and knowledge into the game because it will be funny to watch deaths and then to attempt a raid, now lot of people will prolly go for SSF at first but if they aren't good at the game and RIP constantly they won't have the motivation to play, reason why chance is struggling to find a middle ground to keep people motivated
There is no chance he can make a self found guild. There will be cheating and everyone will know about it and they will keep playing. Just like how people could die with the Addon and still keep playing, people always cheat where possible.
They will mob tag, buy gold, fireyweapon, viewer body guards ect. He's even chosing his words and saying for now or "only if allowed" because... They will mob tag and take donations ect getting to 60 is actually hard
SSF wont happen, the parsoicals are too thirsty to put in their 12 hour shift and 100$ for their "best friend"
"soda is a chill dude. . ."
_10 mins later. . .:_
soda: "we will have racism . . "
but like... chill racism...
@@miraclo3 it should be hardcore only.
it's ingame racism!
I just hope Guzu goes hard and gets to 60 with the guild. Last time I feel that he missed out...
Don't let him loot any dark runes.
He missed out the one MC raid they did where Amphy literally took everyone at his hand and played for them? sure he missed something, sure
Soda was the one who did the majority of the gold buying last time. Let's not forget that he was almost banned for it. So, this time around, the risk outweighs the reward for anyone who isn't a newb when buying gold. Blizzard will ban people this time around.
Blizzard do not ban gold buyers, even if they take action it's only against people like Soda who bought 100's of thousands of gold
@@Nesquenah my friend got banned buying gold in classic era, they don't constantly ban people but they do ban waves. I would say it's something like 1 in every 20 gold buyers get banned. I agree that soda was to set an example tho.
@@davidsantiago7808 He didn't even get banned though. They just took his gold away.
That whole situated showed everyone that blizzard are tolerant of gold buying.
@@Nesqueyeah they always have been, they just do ban waves as a show of good faith to players, but it's always been allowed under the table. Some wow devs were being paid off by gold buying sites to not ban their people a while back. It's still a risk but it's not impossible either.
@@Nesque You are talking alot of BS, i have friends that tried buying gold ONCE and instanly got banned for it for atleast 3 days. I also know people who buy gold for like 2-3 years and havent been banned once, but what you are saying is 1000000% wrong and im shocked with that confident you say it
There's a bunch of people that are gonna lose it about the no mob tagging lmao
They will mob tag and get boosted
then you now who actually doesnt even wanna play WoW and is only doing it for the Views lmao
@@CanoCapo newsflash, that's most of the streamers
The Hyena aggro range is actually pretty long. They probably catch people on the run down from Xroads to Taurajo. Hyenas and Kodo cross some parts of the path
If it’s not SSF, every one will just get juiced.
If it is SSF the non wow players will quit after they die twice.
There is trading inside guild
This is literally their job though. This whole thing gives everyone hella views. Anyone willing to quit that easy should prob figure something else out
I think mobtagging should be allowed only in very special cases, like last time, without mobtagging Rav the avatar, master of the hardcore elements wouldn't have been able to be there in the raid, also he died to some bullshit hitbox not even close to the onyxia guards in stormwind.
stuff like this wish we had something similar in EU.. all these fucked rules are so fun
It would be so cool that you can make your own servers with custom rules which you can read before playing and during playing.
have to go SSF or they will, as they did flagrantly on stream last time, CHEAT.
Bro guess
Kid doesn't even know what flagrant means
Ssf is a must
They’re going to play horde. That’s cool
Payo is best hunter😂 rogue is for griefing
Pretty sure Ziqo said he'll play shaman if it's horde
There is only 1 horde guild that's killed KT on HC.
Horde are just so much worse in PVE. No salv, more importantly : No kings.
Kings is arguably the most important buff since it just enhances all of those world buffs you'll always have for progression.
they played Alliance last time, hence their decision to go Horde this time round
POE2 coming on nov 15
Looking like the best AARPG ever, and still 100% free
dude its only a 2-3 act beta .. chill real poe2 is prolly still at least 4-5+ months away.
Different genres of game. I dont think poe2 release will effect wow. If this was a video about d4 yeah it would make sense.
@@wasteland1151 i dont agree, the real poe2 release will effect lots of streamers and lots of "im gonna play the flavor of the month" ppl that jump from game to game.
remember when d4 got released ? everyone and thier mom played it and thats a shitty game.
@lolleonlolable I'm still playing d4 to this day. It was shitty but has gotten a lot better since release. I quit for like 3 seasons though because it was hot garbage. POE2 does not interest me at all in any way shape or form.
Do No Addons at All, true classic style
Cap they are gonna mob tag 100% i'm calling it
How far is the guild planning to go? Ragnaros again or further?
Probably Rag again, if they even manage to get all the people up to Rag without mob tagging etc... they were only able to do it, becasue they mob tagged alot of the people up to 60 before
@@CanoCapo Thanks for the infos.
Is this confirmed to be on defias pillager
Yeah starting farming slave
wtf are all these shortcuts on his desktop xD just type what you want to launch in the search bar. I guess he's roleplaying 2004 even on this xD
I dont care about the celebrity club
When you said people were gonna get bullied i started laughing XD
... Is... Is our generation the bad guys?
such a cool idea
If it's not SSF then the gold sellers are prep and ready go to give OnlyFANGS all the gold and boost they need. also the viewers of the streamers will be giving tons of handout as well so by that point it's not even hc. i have alot of respect for Guzu one of the best hc streamers out there but Soda is just gold buying trash.
Thing is Soda wants OnlyFanga to be a thing only for consumables if they don't have like a guild alechmist or enchanter they are just going to have that sister guild strictly for that which can be iffy as well, he's most likely going to keep reading within the guild. It's hard to do SSF considering the people who are playing, as a wow player and sweat it's fair but if you're throwing people who have no experience to little experience it's hard to keep them motivated if they know nothing
Different from Alliance to Horde:
UC Elevators
TB Elevators
1k Needles Elevators
Skull Rock (Durotar final quest)
South Shore Alliance Guard (Hillsbrad Foothills)
Refuge Point Alliance Guard (Arathi Highlands).
Stormpike Alliance Guard (Alterac Mountains)
You CAN aggro the Dwarf guards in the tunnels around Wetlands and Loch Modan when running the first time to Badlands. If you're close enough they WILL aggro onto you and they WILL force PvP. Don't believe other people. I have tested. They WILL aggro onto you if you get close enough.
These are the main ones that stick out to me.
obly fangs is EU?
Don’t think so
If it’s not ssf it’s boring to watch people who’ve played the game for 20 years. Why watch someone who knows the game inside and out with fiery enchants, crusaders etc it’s ridiculous.
soda ist waiting for the opportunity to buy his lvl 60 char and some gold
the little gold buyers in the lair
The actual difference between horde and alliance is that horde has a large quest drought from level 15-30+ where you pretty much only have Barrens and the start of hillsbrad in the early-mid twenties. So where alliance can skip many of the more dangerous quests in an area by just going somewhere else, horde can't you either have to do the quests or grind it out, quests are faster at that level but also alot more risky than just grinding mobs hence horde being more difficult overall.
Early game has always been more difficult than late game, because you have such few skills and shit gear you're just less likely to survive any given encounter. Alliance also has a quest drought, but it's 30-40 bracket so grinding mobs is first of all alot more viable as an alternative but the characters are also just alot more likely to survive overall.
There is a way to level smoothly. Îve used restedxp guide and it was pretty chill. Throw some dungeons in there and it’s easy
"you pretty much only have Barrens and the start of hillsbrad in the early-mid twenties"
Were you doing some kind of challenge where you weren't allowed to go to Stonetalon Mountains or Ashenvale?
Hes gone so downhill
Forsen
Hopefully Pilav joins this event, edgy rules need edgy players
saying Xaryu can play anything , soda really dont know this man lol.
but in the other end Xaryu wouldnt play Mage anyway or even if he's playing he will act like a noob just because he's to good with mage lmao...
It's pve not pvp, mage is 1 button spam. He will perform good no matter what he plays due to game sense and experience.
@@Tycam so why is there any reason for zico cant play mage ? because he's also good at pve , and xaryu is one of the best player
@@kaze3766 idk its a dumb rule for those specific reasons, but its probably there so that the weaker players can try out those classes without forcing them to stack whatever the better players dont pick in terms of classes. I don't think it will inherently change any dynamics in terms of the raids strength other than the individual contributions that the class can bring in comparison to player skill, which really only matter in this setting for a few dps, most healers and the two primary tanks.
Being forced to play a class you know nothing about is wild work
It's honestly not that crazy. They don't "know nothing" it's a 20 year old game. Even without guides you have soaked passive knowledge. I have never played Feral a day in my life and I know that the 2h mace from Gnomer is meta even at 60. There are guides literally everywhere and most classes boil down to the same functions.
@@ThiccOleCat not everyone thats gonna play is already a veteran wow player
The classes are not that hard to learn. There aren't many buttons in classic wow
@@michielankersmit8656 I hate to inform you, but the game really is not that hard to pick up. Like most the game for a DPS boils down 1121121121212 type rotations while occasionally hitting a cool down. There are a vast amount of resources that automate more intricate functions like addons and macros. You don't have to be a veteran WoW player to look at a guide and follow it. Actual mushbrained nonsense.
@@michielankersmit8656 The game is not hard. The barrier to entry is low because the game is 20 years old and all the info has been available for over a decade.
I hope Guzu skip this onlyfangs...
Hope so too the guy is boring and all he does is accept streamer bennies while his chat jerks him off
He's gonna have fun. It will be fun.
Why, guzu is also a mob tagger, donation taker ect
@@svsv1191if he was then it’s a new experience for him so he should try it
why you want Guzu skip one of the biggest content creator gathering ? he literally can have more viewer from it alot of viewer is trying to watch anyone in Onlyfangs just because their streamer is not online yet,but wanted to see the progress on the guild.
Kewl
the pushing of 'in game racism' is kinda crazy and pretty telling
Lore accurate to classic /s
Wow players and racism has a long history together, they go hand in hand, its probably a top racists hobby look at how many people watch asmondgold and look how many people spapm the n word if they see a brown person
@@ThiccOleCat You mean wow right?
There is nothing wrong with that. Orc master race zug zug.
Are you new to wow? Look at asmondgolds chat if a brown person appears on screen i think you can guess which word gets used a lot
being forced to play certain classes because youre locked on race is bullshit. i hope people just boycott and play what they want
After 20 years of playing what you want, I think the idea of being forced into something is legit.
The only real downside would be getting locked to a race without much variety in classes.
@@ChallengeBun no it just enforces the people to quit even faster
Kayn they aren't forced to play with Onlyfangs, so there's no boycotting anything, there's participate or don't.
@@omega1231 they can start alone and play without oblyfangs because ot the stupid rules
race officers? Kinda noozie ish
Representatives for each race is noozie ish huh? Is the UN like that too since they have representatives for each country?