Can anyone explain some of the backstory? Why did ally supposedly throw the match? I know about all the cpt. zack stuff but why this match in particular?
This set it so terrible to watch knowing the truth. It's incredibly obvious ally is throwing, even the commentators could smell something fishy. But the worst part is, seeing how happy zackray is about the win. Blissfully ignorant that he was robbed of fair competition.
Ally was the 5th best player in the world, even Zackray would have dropped the set against him. He made too many mistakes and they came back to bite him.
You can also see his expressions, especially before the match. You already know what he is thinking. Edit: Also Keitaro saying what is he looking for at the end. With all those jabs, makes so much sense now.
The real victim here is Zackray... He just wants to play and gets involved between CaptainZack and Ally... At least he is proving himself right now on EVO 2019
my thoughts might have a bias because of i'm japanese. but i want to say. we should praise zackray, even if everyone know the truth. the saddest one is zackray. look at his reaction after he won against ally.
No ones going to say he didn’t deserve the win. He’s an outstanding player but I still feel bad for ally when he could have probably made it to grands and maybe won
well Ally was obviously not the one who abuses and manipulated in the relationship with zack . it was a consensual relation between a 16y old and a 26 adult i understand u can find it no moral but your morality is not the morality of everyone . I don't understand the ban of Ally seriously he deserve to compete and come back in the scene Captain zack is a manipulator don't underestimate the intelligence of a 16y old teen
Neither should be able to play in tournament anymore honestly, I know what ally did wasn’t technically illegal and what zack did was arguably worse but o think it’s better that they both disappear
SazLaFoudre Uh is English not your first language? I assume you mean he should be allowed to compete and I completely get that but the whole situation is kinda messy, I don’t think anybody but the two knows every detail
This what I said on twitter but I got a lot of shit for saying this because "dating a 16 year makes you a creep" even though I said that Zack could be the one manipulating ally, but of course everyone said I was defending a pedo
Ally threw this set so hard, even during the end he had so many opportunities to finish off zackray but he kind of just stopped playing the game not to take anything away from zackray, he was playing pretty good
Agreed. So many missed grab opportunities, not to mention he stopped using Nikita when he threw Zackray offstage. I thought after that F-air spike he would mount a comeback.
Zackray is so agressive and willing to throw out big attacks so I'm sure it's mentally draining playing him. But yeah, Ally's play really fell off as the match progressed.
0:20 is a hmmmm moment but I do miss Ally ): was one of my favorite players, sucks to have found out what happened, but sucks even more he was being manipulated and blackmailed
Watching this "legendary" set again. We got Zackray vs Ally (cancelled), commentated by Keitaro (cancelled) and D1 (cancelled). And on the background you see Nairo (cancelled) watching in the crowd. This just hits too different, it feels so weird and sad. The scene will change so much after the pandemic.
Actually feel really bad for Ally rn, I knew something wasn’t right (find my comment from 3 months back) Worst thing is Zackray popped off and was so happy with his win, imagine how he’s gonna feel when he finds out this was a result of blackmail
Honestly, i don't think anyone should feel bad for him. He also made mistakes and ultimately choose to throw the match. He should be held accountable for the mistakes he made.
@@fortnitebanana9634 We dont know the full story. Even if we believe he was black mailed it stemmed from the choices he made and what he wanted to hide in the first place. Not to mention regardless of black mail or not he threw a match, he made his choice. As the story develops we can maybe start to get a better picture as to what really happened but right now there is no reason to defend anyone involved.
@@Joseluis77.. He didn't have to lose at all. He made the choice to lose on purpose. And as for the black mail, maybe he should have never got himself in that situation in the first place. What both of them did was terrible, but pretending ally is innocent here is ridiculous.
Just because everyone around you think this ain’t morally correct and that’s why y’all got brainwashed thinking this ain’t right. Zack was old enough to decide what he want.
@My Mum Wishes I Was Never Born Because I Capitalize Every Word In A Sentace Probably not, but we had Segull Joe. Though he does well in Brawl tournaments when it happens due to their hardly being players joining and he wasn't doing well in smash 4.
UA-cam just recommanded me this video because I am watching a lot of Wolf pro play and it seems I am unaware of an important backstory here. Could someone care to explain ? ^^
Yeah same lol but I searched it up. There’s this controversy that went on months ago. Ally was asked to throw this match (among others) because this guy who he was in a relationship with- another player called CaptainZack something like that- told him to. Long story short, the captain guy’s like 16-17 when they were dating. People don’t like pedos (or in this case ephebophilia?) and being asked to throw matches is a scummy move. This resulted a ban to both, I think?
This is kinda cursed. Of all the people that kinda didn't deserve it is Ally, I know that's sounds sus but captain Zach is just a bad person that ruins everything. Also age of consent is 16 so slightly less sus. Hope Ally feels better
@@juliusmcwilliams5883 he probably just wanted to end it so he didnt have to keep throwing, there a also a possibility that he ended up beating him in the game 5 so I bet he also didnt want to risk it
Everyone is saying ally choked at the end. And I understand the opportunities we all saw. But in the heat of a fight on this level. Against someone like zackray. Who normally doesnt leave you a lot of opps open. I'm sure if anything it just messed with allys head while it happened. You dobt expect shit like that from zackray. His game is air tight. Zackray is my favorite player. But I will defend ally on this one. You guys calling him out for "choking" havnt been involved with anything fight on this level. And realistically dont go to tourneys with players on a higher tier.
It's not a meme. It's just what it's called when a player loses in the end. Just like how when you beat someone or a team while at a disadvantage it's called a clutch
Ally was dating CaptainZack who was a minor while he was an adult. That's a big problem right off the bat for obvious reasons but Zack threatened Ally with exposing their relationship if he didnt agree to lose this match and get 9th. Ally retired a bit after and CaptainZack got banned for match fixing and blackmail. Zack also made him throw a match a short time later against Nairo too
This set just became a massive bruh moment
Bruh
Way more bruh now with Keitaro, D1, and more cptzach screenshots
I know why you're here
Yeah it all makes sense, Ally would never choke this hard.
😏😙🤗
Captain Zack is real scummy
Can anyone explain some of the backstory? Why did ally supposedly throw the match? I know about all the cpt. zack stuff but why this match in particular?
Lolololol
This set it so terrible to watch knowing the truth. It's incredibly obvious ally is throwing, even the commentators could smell something fishy. But the worst part is, seeing how happy zackray is about the win. Blissfully ignorant that he was robbed of fair competition.
Ally was the 5th best player in the world, even Zackray would have dropped the set against him. He made too many mistakes and they came back to bite him.
Worst part is people still have the nerve to defend that idiot responsible and call ally a pedo
Evo uhh actually he was the 6th best player in the world
Eduardo C who asked you to correct him?
And the commentators are fucked up people too
Thanks to D1 and Keitaro, this match managed to age even worse than it already did
And with cinnpie at 16:13
Well now we know why ally did not try to kill him in game 4 last stock...
Why?
@@jumble6820 Captain Zack told him to drop the set or he'd expose him
@@7e1ix expose him on what?
The Greatest Ever dating him (a minor)
@@thegreatestever913 What the fuck?
damn
Yo
You're probably gonna make a video about this right?
Its so obvious it hurts to watch
You can also see his expressions, especially before the match. You already know what he is thinking.
Edit: Also Keitaro saying what is he looking for at the end. With all those jabs, makes so much sense now.
The biggest victim is definitely zackray, poor kid didn’t even get a fair fight
All he wanted was to get better
Yess so poorly kid... His life might be so poor and sad :(((
@@lowrd652 dude what
@@dylanthebroadcaster ally threw it
The real victim here is Zackray... He just wants to play and gets involved between CaptainZack and Ally... At least he is proving himself right now on EVO 2019
not pointing fingers but do you think possibly zackray can be on captin zacks side?
@@erronn. idk
@@erronn. the guy doesn’t even speak English I doubt it
And now we know the reason why Ally choked in that last game. Crazy....
I feel... sick? while watching this. I'll just say what everyone else is saying. Bruh moment.
Welcome back everyone I hope you all had a good couple of months before the truth came out
my thoughts might have a bias because of i'm japanese. but i want to say.
we should praise zackray, even if everyone know the truth.
the saddest one is zackray. look at his reaction after he won against ally.
No ones going to say he didn’t deserve the win. He’s an outstanding player but I still feel bad for ally when he could have probably made it to grands and maybe won
Nicky P I think that set was Ally’s if he was giving it his all and wasn’t in a difficult emotional state
12:20 maybe I’m overthinking this, but it looked like Ally was about to cry. Zack and Ally really caused a shitstorm
Yeah I saw that to.pain in the ass to see this
It has been revealed he was in fact crying.
Hopefully Zack does the right thing and stops going to tournaments. Captain Zack. Not Zackray. He's cool.
Ye, he was actually banned from Smash Con 2019 and any 2GG tournament... So... I guess it's something
Only person in this vid to not be cancelled is Zackray now.
LOL
Winner :captain Zack
well Ally was obviously not the one who abuses and manipulated in the relationship with zack . it was a consensual relation between a 16y old and a 26 adult i understand u can find it no moral but your morality is not the morality of everyone . I don't understand the ban of Ally seriously he deserve to compete and come back in the scene Captain zack is a manipulator don't underestimate the intelligence of a 16y old teen
Neither should be able to play in tournament anymore honestly, I know what ally did wasn’t technically illegal and what zack did was arguably worse but o think it’s better that they both disappear
@@cag_0k642 im not agree ally should be allow to compete
SazLaFoudre
Uh is English not your first language? I assume you mean he should be allowed to compete and I completely get that but the whole situation is kinda messy, I don’t think anybody but the two knows every detail
@@cag_0k642 ye im french sorry for my english and ye pretty agree with ur last message
This what I said on twitter but I got a lot of shit for saying this because "dating a 16 year makes you a creep" even though I said that Zack could be the one manipulating ally, but of course everyone said I was defending a pedo
This set is so depressing to watch now. I also think lima and tamim need to be on watch bc both of them are extremely sus too
Why?
@@benjaminswank3437 well tamim is clearly close with zack, so who knows what else has happened in the past that he could be hiding
guess we can add a whole bunch to that list now...
Ally threw this set so hard, even during the end he had so many opportunities to finish off zackray but he kind of just stopped playing the game
not to take anything away from zackray, he was playing pretty good
Agreed. So many missed grab opportunities, not to mention he stopped using Nikita when he threw Zackray offstage. I thought after that F-air spike he would mount a comeback.
One thing he was definitely not doing was ledgedrop bair vs wolf's upB recovery.
Zackray is so agressive and willing to throw out big attacks so I'm sure it's mentally draining playing him. But yeah, Ally's play really fell off as the match progressed.
Completely seriously, he threw the match on purpose.
Urghk I knew something wasn’t right, actually so messed up
9:01 This guy’s comedian skills 10/10
Tis nothin but a bruh moment
*Ally loses* : Shakes head in disappointment.
*Ally wins* : Shakes head in disapproval.
I noticed he does that a lot
Given recent context it seems he was just shaking his head realizing this isnt a set he can win
@@dr.epicphd5920 Even so, I still agree with my past self. He shaked his head in games even when he wasn't throwing lol
TeaL I think it’s because sometimes he feels he hasn’t earned the win and he won because the opponent made a mistake or sd.
@@dr.epicphd5920 not even dude look back to any vod with him in smash 4. he literally does it every time whether it's a win or loss.
I understand why now.
0:20 is a hmmmm moment
but I do miss Ally ): was one of my favorite players, sucks to have found out what happened, but sucks even more he was being manipulated and blackmailed
Watching this "legendary" set again. We got Zackray vs Ally (cancelled), commentated by Keitaro (cancelled) and D1 (cancelled). And on the background you see Nairo (cancelled) watching in the crowd. This just hits too different, it feels so weird and sad. The scene will change so much after the pandemic.
nairo?
He was clearly throwing. At 15:00. What snake throws 0 uptilts for like 50 seconds
Am I the only one intrigued by the fact that Zackray in Japanese is basically a corruption of how people pronounce "Sakurai"? 🤔🤔🤔
😦 Im now woke
Shut ur dumbass tf up
15:24 Ally low key styling on Zackray with the empty dash and parry into nothing because Captain Zack told him not to win lmfao, what is this shit
This boys out here making grown men cry
stfu
Jottrato Don’t cry grown man.
With recent context, it’s undersrandable why..
Zack* out here making grown men cry
D I D N O T A G E W E L L
Internet Smart Guys returning here to point out they knew all along based on the expressions and Ally scratching his elbow or some shit lmao
4:09 uh
I genuinely wonder if this loss was on purpose
Apperently, yup
Truth bomb got dropped, yes it was.
It was
Comments that aged unfortunately well
R/whoosh
Actually feel really bad for Ally rn, I knew something wasn’t right (find my comment from 3 months back)
Worst thing is Zackray popped off and was so happy with his win, imagine how he’s gonna feel when he finds out this was a result of blackmail
Honestly, i don't think anyone should feel bad for him. He also made mistakes and ultimately choose to throw the match. He should be held accountable for the mistakes he made.
Wasn't he blackmailed to throw? He really had no other option.
@@fortnitebanana9634 We dont know the full story. Even if we believe he was black mailed it stemmed from the choices he made and what he wanted to hide in the first place. Not to mention regardless of black mail or not he threw a match, he made his choice. As the story develops we can maybe start to get a better picture as to what really happened but right now there is no reason to defend anyone involved.
@@rockySP4S its obvious he was blackmailed he could have easily won the match but had to lose on purpose
@@Joseluis77.. He didn't have to lose at all. He made the choice to lose on purpose. And as for the black mail, maybe he should have never got himself in that situation in the first place. What both of them did was terrible, but pretending ally is innocent here is ridiculous.
Just because everyone around you think this ain’t morally correct and that’s why y’all got brainwashed thinking this ain’t right.
Zack was old enough to decide what he want.
Captain Zack blackmailed Ally into ruining the integrity of competition, which is very wrong both morally and is against the tournament rules.
@@FlappyCat-ef6oq and isn't fair for others
10:12 メテオまでの流れが美しい...
八百長試合...
10:15 ken combo?
So a prodigy, a pedophile and rapist and a abuser walk into a bar.......
i thought you meant armanda prodigy
Damn...
Just damn...
This is one of those matchups that you just never get tired of seeing, no matter what game is being played. This set was so hype.
@My Mum Wishes I Was Never Born Because I Capitalize Every Word In A Sentace Probably not, but we had Segull Joe. Though he does well in Brawl tournaments when it happens due to their hardly being players joining and he wasn't doing well in smash 4.
Woulda been a 3-0
This comment did not age well
@@juliusmcwilliams5883 :f
@@juliusmcwilliams5883 Yeah, I like the matchup, but Zack really needs to go.
Ally, I bet that gluck slurp 4000 from CaptainZack was worth the risk
UA-cam just recommanded me this video because I am watching a lot of Wolf pro play and it seems I am unaware of an important backstory here.
Could someone care to explain ? ^^
Yeah same lol but I searched it up. There’s this controversy that went on months ago. Ally was asked to throw this match (among others) because this guy who he was in a relationship with- another player called CaptainZack something like that- told him to. Long story short, the captain guy’s like 16-17 when they were dating. People don’t like pedos (or in this case ephebophilia?) and being asked to throw matches is a scummy move. This resulted a ban to both, I think?
I also heard blackmail was involved. The details of were vague idk.
14:16 that smash!
The best of the game so far.
This vod is ultra cursed now
These two nearly had a mental breakdown during and after the game (especially Ally), looks like he was about to cry :(
Nah
Yep lol. Check twitter
With new evidence, turns out he was blackmailed into losing on purpose.
0:21 😶
Ally choked so hard at the end there. He had like 4 opportunities to end the set.
and now we now why
this comment aged well
The truth has been revealed
This is kinda cursed. Of all the people that kinda didn't deserve it is Ally, I know that's sounds sus but captain Zach is just a bad person that ruins everything. Also age of consent is 16 so slightly less sus. Hope Ally feels better
8:12 in my head I'm just hearing the Kendrick Lamar version
3/4 of the people in this game are having bruh moments rn
How did Ally tech that 7:50 ??
@Joseph Cantelmi just hold, are you sure?
@@arod3295 yup. You either buffer it 10 frames before or you can hold it. It's a part of Ultimates new buffer system
@@shikh5200 tap or hold 10 frames before.. gotcha
@@arod3295 the hold doesn't have to be 10 frames. You just hold it and it'll do it as soon as it's possible.
@@shikh5200 so I can hold as soon as I get hit (in other words way before 10 frames) ?
15:15 this is so fucked up dude, knowing ally let him win
It makes so much sense now.
This set is funny af don’t care about context. Funny af
So, Why did CaptainZack tell ally to lose to zackray, What is zachs and zackrays relationship?
If ally didn’t lose on purpose then Zack will reveal that ally and him are dating.
they don't have any relationship, cpt zack was just jealous of ally winning.
15:24 bruh he hugged his back for like 1 second, it's super obvious...
What's the secret of this set??
What controllers are they using?
14:16
まさにallyみたいな空前やな
Is he wearing the Larry lurr jacket?
I find it funny YT recommends me this after all the drama between the two. I see what you doing YT 👀
I’m literally in pain watching this
Ally bruv, how you drop it so hard at the end
He intentionally threw the match. Captain Zack blackmailed him into matchfixing this set.
Bruh
Do people blame a school shooter if they’re only 15 or 17? Yes keep zack gone he knew what he was doing both times.
So awesome to watch! I love this match up!!!!!!
Ally got dropped? When and why?
Ally should’ve grabbed him toward the end and backthrew into Nikita that would’ve been game
My Mum Wishes I Was Never Born Because I Capitalize Every Word In A Sentace true just stating my opinion 👍🏾
My Mum Wishes I Was Never Born Because I Capitalize Every Word In A Sentace “Sentace”
My Mum Wishes I Was Never Born Because I Capitalize Every Word In A Sentace nice profile pic
Lol
Ally legitimately threw due to CaptainZack's blackmailing
Man poor zackray hes playing against a creep (ally) while being commentated by two as well (keitaro) and (d1) litlle did he know...
Looks like Ally gave up.
Given the recent context. That basically what he did sadly
He did
On the money
BRUH
Ally is officially-officially canceled
Sam and Nairo in the background 😬
Dude Zackray read like four of ally’s rolls far into the future. That’s what those ftilt shenanigans were. They were just the biggest of brain plays.
Man you can tell so clearly damn
Certified bruh moment
Zackray the only one here with a clean rep
One of the best sets so far
FuazzyMoto lmao
That didn't aged well at all lmaoooooo
Ally lost because he was too attracted to 16 year old Zackray.
I think you're just gay.
You actually were right
Damn son, you were REALLY close, but close enough I'ma say you called it anyway.
Damn son
Almost a prophet.
lmao 15:25
Is zackery made to be unbeatable?
Nah Ally fuckin had it, could’ve ended the set, but he choked
LOL
Zackary would of been washed up but :/
Nevermind
Ally was blackmailed
Bitch ass captain zack
If you search up Zackray vs Ally this is the first result 0_0
I still think MVD is a much better Snake than Ally, despite being probably a bit too cocky.
I remember when I first saw this I thought Ally was just toying with Zackray. Rip in pepperoni...
Ok, but seriously. Why didn't Ally just let it go to Game 5?
CaptainZack told him to throw otherwise he'd cancel him.
@@krosshair450 Well yeah, but he still could have made it look better if he let it go to Game 5.
@@juliusmcwilliams5883 he probably just wanted to end it so he didnt have to keep throwing, there a also a possibility that he ended up beating him in the game 5 so I bet he also didnt want to risk it
So ally threw this match due to Captain Zack’s blackmail... fucking hell
commentator
love talking about ally lol
Everyone is saying ally choked at the end. And I understand the opportunities we all saw. But in the heat of a fight on this level. Against someone like zackray. Who normally doesnt leave you a lot of opps open. I'm sure if anything it just messed with allys head while it happened. You dobt expect shit like that from zackray. His game is air tight. Zackray is my favorite player. But I will defend ally on this one. You guys calling him out for "choking" havnt been involved with anything fight on this level. And realistically dont go to tourneys with players on a higher tier.
lol
Lmao
This did not age well
@@khalifrouf2579 what didnt
@@colinhoeg4728 It was reveled that CaptainZack blackmailed Ally and told him to purposely lose the match.
I hate the "he chocked" meme when a player doesn't play at 100%, but Ally looked like he was just mentally falling apart there at the end.
It's not a meme. It's just what it's called when a player loses in the end. Just like how when you beat someone or a team while at a disadvantage it's called a clutch
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I wonder why
Who can not love zackray
haha this comment didn't age well lol
Zack x blackmail
zackray? Great? CaptainZack on the other hand? Not so great.
Hate him. He should be banned too.
At least I can analyze the first few games...
Man, Is so obvius Ally is playing horrible this set, how the fuck do i realize this just now...
So many different arcs of Ally.
WTF ALLY?! that was his game!!!!
Edit: jk nvm i know now what went on smh
Oscar Hernandez he got blackmailed
Mr. Nord1c i remember watching this video months ago and now knowing the backstory... i have no words...
Ally’s fear of shuton in winners finals got the best of him ;)
Everyone's afraid of Shuton lol
Nope
Afraid of captain zack
ya Ally won
Lmao i have no idea whats going on can someone enlighten me. I just wanted to see some zackray vs ally
Ally was blackmailed to lose by Captain Zack.
Ally was dating CaptainZack who was a minor while he was an adult. That's a big problem right off the bat for obvious reasons but Zack threatened Ally with exposing their relationship if he didnt agree to lose this match and get 9th. Ally retired a bit after and CaptainZack got banned for match fixing and blackmail. Zack also made him throw a match a short time later against Nairo too
thats fucked up
I feel bad for Ally
I'm here to watch ally throw...
Wow... so scummy