Dmt, LSD and psilocybin containing mushrooms are amazing. I could remember several years ago, I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with BPD. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? 🙏
YES very sure of Doctor.jeremyy. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, BPD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Research shows that psilocybin mushrooms have promising results for mental health support, particularly in reducing symptoms of depression, anxiety and PTSD.
Thats literally psychedelic's in a nutshell. Overwhelming feeling with zero tangible wisdom. God says to avoid drugs for a reason. Some can still operate well while under immediate or residual effects. But it creates shit like the american sexual revolution thats been a major societal pollution since when it was supposed so be a breakthrough of "love".
“Remove the inhibition of memory from perception “ that is real as real gets and that is exactly what a psychedelic experience can bring and has brought to me…not every time but the few true over the top defining trips in my life have and that’s life changing and life growing
Totally! Fun facts: that ‘duality’ suit was a gift someone made for him. The blue side is made of sheep wool with a silk lining of sky and clouds ..and the maroon side’s made of goat’s wool and lining’s fire.
I could only imagine his thought process before buying that piece. "It reflects the underlying internal conflicts between good and evil, chaos and order, further it embodies the Jungian idea of the shadow" -ye buy that.
“Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.” - Terence Mckenna
There's a debate between Ram Dass and Terrence Mckenna on youtube somewhere. Ram Dass was a Harvard professor, took LSD and eventually went to India and he said he became enlightened. Terrence Mckenna took LSD and then never stopped taking it. The difference in style was marked. Mckenna sounded like an agressive hobo vs Ram Dasses gentle, compassionate but firm way of talking. McKenna was eventually consumed by drugs.
“Beware of unearned wisdom” is a trope. It was peddled in Mormonism my whole life and I still see it online today. The same can be said for the techniques used by so-called prophets, seers, revelators, and every-day priesthood holders. Beware of self-proclaimed, unexamined wisdom is more like it.
@@mattslev yes it does, it removes fundamental subjectivity. Andrew Gallimore wrote a great book about how the brain works and the concept of world building. Read it
@@marcinczapski8547 don’t listen to Matt… he most likely puts himself on the same table as Jordan and just wants to be confrontational because he thinks he knows better… Delusional comment and commenter Matt is. A nobody.
3:13 has to be one of my favorite Peterson moments...seeing him smile and laugh like that, a man as serious, smart, respectful, and just down right amazing all around, made me genuinely happy.
Right off the rip Jordan says that the use of fire is 2million years old… which is 1000% wrong.. beware of unearned knowledge. This guy just learns the minuscule amount he needs about current topics and then goes on to act like a professional about it.. it’s weird as shit.
reminds me of how the masons or cults do there stuff, they give infeormation over time and work u into it cuz if they just gave everything outright it would be confusing and chaos
From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness...... One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else....... """"" Hey we've been waiting for you....... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us"""" 3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior. I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway..... Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonauts out there.......
This conversation was awesome. Brought to my mind a comparison between psychedelics and the "forbidden fruit" or "apple of knowledge"? Interesting thought.
Never once have I thought about it like that! “The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” Taking said fruit caused Adam and Eve to recognize their naked bodies. They then attempt to (1) clothe themselves and (2) hide from God.
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area, I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
the Jung quote at the end is perfect. Reminds me this guy who once told me, "It's ok to take psychedelics to reach enlightenment, as long as you remember that you're getting enlightenment on credit. If you just keep tripping and going to festies and doing nothing to better humanity and the world, you will build up a huge karmic debt, and it will be hard to get out of it."
actually, there's another great quote about psychedelics by Alan Watts (I think it was Watts, not sure): "Once you get the message, hang up the phone."
Beware of unearned wisdom...and of unearned self-esteem. BTW, is it me or is Peterson looking much healthier and energetic and more rested than usual? Always good to hear him speak and provoke further thought in my own mind, whether I agree with him or not on a particular subject.
Unearned self-esteem? What a completely childish sentiment that is... Anyone who is a person who exists has already "earned" the capacity for self-esteem simply by virtue of being a human person.
In the podcast, in the beginning, both Peterson and Rogan show grins that are of the purest kind: genuine happiness to be talking together again in comradery. It's a sight to see, very contagious. I'd invite you all to participate as it brought a contagious smile to my face and soul.
Best "unique" description of the psychedelic experience I've heard in a long time. Not sure where Jordan was saying he read that or if he broke it down himself, but he nailed it. From where he was talking about the JRE sign for anyone wondering which part. I'm starting to wonder if "expanding your mind" wasn't just a neat way to describe how psychedelics really work. I've seen recently how brain scans of people on psilocybin mushrooms show an explosion of new connections in the brain, which might explain that feeling of profound understanding, which leaves you with nothing tangible afterwards, other than maybe a new insight into a problem afterwards. Just a renewed sense of connection with the world.
4:32 Jordon Peterson quoting Carl Jung saying, "Beware of unearned Wisdom," may be the best collection of 4-words ever strung together in a sentence relating to the cerebral. I can think of a few more that are less erudite. 🙏🏾😇
Right. It's actually a weirdly ironic quote, and I wonder if people are processing what they're upvoting. Still, I loved Peterson's psychedelic positivity in this clip. He also interviewed Dennis McKenna a month or two ago. Dennis has to be a little less than totally honest about his DMT experiences these days, though....
That is why EGO is very important too. It helps you draw the line and helps you to ground yourself. Sure psychedelics are good and give you insight, shows you on the needed changes, helps anxiety and depression, but ego helps you analyze and set boundaries when its needed...
anxiety is what helps you analyze and set boundries. ego is the opposite. it makes you confident in yourself, which, in turn, make others confident in you for some weird reason. People often mistake confidence for intelligence or adeptness, but its actually completely unrelated other than its tendency to convince others that youre right for that weird reason again.
@@scorch4299 I don't think you mean anxiety but more in regards to flight or fight response. Anxiety is an issue where you feel you are dying, over thinking, taking things too literal as a problem, etc according to the sx. A flight or fight response is when a situation is presented and a quick response is needed. While you're right, ego is confidence and can get out of hand if not controlled, setting boundaries is ego as well, as it is the response of thinking things through instead of jumping the ship because you feel like it. Think it as the brain and the heart. The heart sets no boundaries but the brain does. The heart loves but the brain makes sure to take it slow or see things in a 3rd perspective..
I've always thought that the notion how the ego is unhelpful and the enemy (a popular opinion in spiritual circles) is false. Ego is necessary. Without ego, I would not have the motivation to do anything. Whats your thoughts on that ?
@@hablabamosa ego is basically your personality, character, traits of what makes you. Its not entirely bad how some spiritual groups make it seem. Without it, we would not be here in the first place. Too much ego tho allows arrogance, bad behavior, all the bad shit in your life. I would say, keep it in check, and you should be fine. We are all living a human experience..
"Turn on, tune in, drop out" did not mean wandering around like stoned hippies at a love-in. It meant, seeking answers, observing carefully and questioning everything.
My friend tripped for the first time yesterday, and what JP describes is exactly what he experienced. He realized a lot about himself and about the world. "Beware of unearned wisdom" is such a wise quote.
"What a psychedlic does in part is remove the inhibition of memory from perception and that re-immerses you in the complex world" There's this video that changed my life. This guy named Jiddu Krishnamurti talks about this very thing that Jordan was talking about here. He says that if you remove everything you've ever thought of or experienced, your "ability to observe without judgement will become your highest form of intelligence" (JK). Here's the vid: ua-cam.com/video/Tq1V7w2iUXg/v-deo.html
Thats, what we actually are -- but chose to forget, to hide from ourself. Below our hypercomplex interrelating layers of thought is that which knows them, is aware of them, like it is aware of the body in form of sensations. Its not the body which is aware -- it is awareness which is aware.
@@maddymcmadingson6296 I was born in the 80’s, books were boring, poetry was read in classes, history books then only told parts of the story, what we see now was was science fiction. Now every week we learn more and more about truths, you kids are spoiled and take things for granted. We had to read books to learn everything, now you just watch a video and a person will tell you everything you need to know.
Immediately headed to the "other platform" to listen to these two, but not all of my favorite minds, and their fascinating conversation exchange. I never tire of listening/watching to either man. With much appreciation!
I love the fact that these men are well educated and versed in life experience and speak on the possibilities that are concept on life is Mis construed if not mid lead. To take accountability not only for our actions but on what we understand. Thank you gentlemen🙏
@Luckwood Donald i appreciate it but since my awakening I don’t need psychedelics I tap in regardless. Unless I stayed on a trip warning do with caution.
Tbh who says we have a set concept on what life is. Nobody has the right to say what life is nor the proper knowledge. Life is what the individual assigns life to be, the sooner anyone realizes the sooner they can be happier
Thats so true how it removes memory how insightful to recognize that. Im not a crazy psych taker but ive taken em plenty and never really thought of it that way but now I see it.
We also use AD, BC most of the world, a lot of whom are atheists and Islamic…Bible is most popular book in the world, Christianity has the most diverse followers (USA, Africa, Asia etc etc) the reason it’s still around is because it’s the Truth. If you took some mushrooms, all the lies and bias would be stripped away and you’d see Reality
Ah yes ...the judges of the universe. We who believe out of nothing came everything; and get the rational out of the irrational....we who share a common ancestry with banana...our great grand daddy was wet rock... primordial soup, to be fancy. Accidental star dust. We hold the keys to reality and wisdom. Not some 2,000 year old fable upon which all of Wester civilization is built..no. our A-moral worldview is far superior...yes.
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery, it's quite fascinating how effective they're for depression and stress disorders.They saved my life they definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression,I would like to try them but it's hard to source them here
I had to give up my caffeine addiction after I was saved. I suggest you look into testimonies of Christians who were convicted to give up drugs and then rethink the path you're on.
Timothy Leary came into a dive bar we were at and sat down on a stool next to us. He had given a speech at the local college that evening and had just wandered on down the hill afterwards looking for a cold local micro brew and some relaxation. A few of our professors were into local mushrooms at the time and would often bring a jar of them to the same bar to share. Chill days!
This is off the back of brian c. murareskus book "the immortality key" which JP wrote the foreword. It deep drives into the use of psychedelics in religion..15 hours worth of listening but worth it 👍👍
Yes. He has a very interesting mind, and a good heart. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't really paid attention, they just see those little clips taken out of context.
I just bought some acid tabs about a month ago, 3 of them for $20. Gonna wait for the summer and trip while on a hiking trip, idk why but that’s always been on my bucket list. Can’t wait for this summer.
The use of psychedelics by shamans wasn't a rejection at all, it was literally how they were able to channel such powerful wisdom and make observations about medicine and psychology that compete with modern medicine, it's just different everywhere. The indians, Sitting Bull had the best ganja, history just tells us it's "powerful medicine" he initially showed the american settlers.
Jbp the type of guy you ask “how’s it goin” and immediately blinks 22 times, chuckles for few seconds, sweats profusely, tears up, bites his lip and says “it’s going pretty..okay for now”
I think Joe said those thing on purpose because hes very smart, for a subtle reminding not to go down that road. And Jordan was instantly well aware of his hint. They both knew and in their minds agreed that they should be more careful about this. Very subtle stuff.
I think psychedelics should be taken more seriously. People really need to quit looking at it as a party drug and see it as something that can help humanity.
When I was like 10 I had a 104 fever and had the worst fever dream and it was of a bunch of burning grass and bushes around me and it felt literally like the world was ending and like I was in hell. I still think about that dream sometimes 11 years later
Hallucinations are a common side effect of starvation. I have always wondered if that biblical story about Moses seeing god in the burning bush might have been a side effect of his extended fasting at the time...
My father, Psychoanalyst/Author/Philosopher, Rolf R. Loehrich (Berlin 1913 - 1995 Van Can) did some of the very first Governmental LSD Experiments, before Leary. He wrote about it in his autobiography (not published). My father worked with Carl Jung and corresponded with Freud.
All religions say basically the same thing, 'What you are looking for is inside of you' Do not make your home in this world because it is temporary, find the infinite within and focus on that.
Jordan Peterson is the epitome of the enlightenment and self awareness levels that most of us try really hard to achieve but wonder how the hell we can really get to that amazing mindset! To add: holy crap, his blazer rocks! Symbolic, I'm guessing...
Im hoping they expose the ongoing Torture Program here in the US. The US is currently Targeting and Torturing innocent civilians with Voice to Skull Directed Energy Weapons. Ive been Targeted since Oct 5th 2018. The goal is to force suicide the targeted individual.
Thank you Mr.Rogen and Mr.Peterson for ,once again blowing my mind and at the same time embracing my soul ever welcoming my place in our greater consciousness.
I've accessed places in the spiritual realm through deep prayer that I'd call "visions" that were so real to me that they were life changing- without taking exogenous substances to experience them, so I do think that there are organic ways to access the supernatural realm...and that's cool. But, I do believe I was also being drawn by an entity outside of myself to allow it to happen. That has made a believer outta me.
It is important for a lot of people to remember that psychedelics wouldnt work at all in our brains, if we hadnt already evolved the neurological "keyholes" and underlying circuits for the "lockpicks" of the drug molecules to open We had to evolve those circuits entirely on our own , for psychedelics to even remotely have a chance of neurologically opening them The best working argument we have as to how we evolved them, is thought to be that early hominds evolved the ability to enter altered states spontaneously as the result of autohypnosis or other trance inducing behavior via natural selection , and this was spread and conserved as part of wider selection for religiosity , both of which are very likely to be intertwined with both our propensity towards music, and creating strong social bonds through shared ideas and experiences Basically the monkeys who could make themselves feel funny around the fire by singing and dancing together, and who wanted to build culture around those shared experiences became us. Psychedelics came much much later
@@craigsurette3438 interesting hypothesis to consider, seems plausible in many respects, evolutionary neurobehavior development....another piece of the puzzle, thanks!
I love you, Jordan Peterson. I am so glad I followed teachings starting at the young age of 16. Im 22 now, and prospering. And I’m sure, I’m just one of millions.
I think it's hilarious that I'm about to take a Psychedelic journey in a few minutes and a video with two of my idols having a conversation on the topic is at the tippidy top of my feed. God is a comedian. Either that or UA-cam is run by spies. Either way, what a blessing.
What's funny is that I started this podcast and I couldn't pay attention to my work. It dawned on me that my room was a mess so I spent 4 hours cleaning my room while listening to this, completely forgot that, that is one of Peterson's life advice is to clean your room.
The doctor had much to say I suspect patient is very ill :) I also enjoyed the Exodus series way more than I expected. Promise you will do one podcast and talk like you talk during the lunch, much respect, thank you gents
"Beware of unearned Wisdom" is a quote that many favour and relate. In my experience, wisdom is a hill climb, and takes effort, however, about half way up one may transition to *Truth*. Which is in contrast effortless, and not so much earned, but enjoyably and exponentially received, co-refined, and re-kindled, being a long 'time' lost. 'Earning' suggests a before..and after, a past to present, where as truth glides effortlessly always..in the present. And it's essence is gleamed simply, like toes refreshingly draped in cool river current, on a beautiful, warm summer's day. It is the infinite, untainted canvas always welcome. Under subjective brush stroke.
The Jacket Analysis: Think of the process Peterson underwent to present a "silent," two-sided, symbolic statement to Joe and his audience . His muted red and blue jacket may be a nod to American-pride, without leaning left or right. But look deeper. Peterson's business attire baseline is conservative. If anything, his style is more formal, and old-world. The man donning this silly jacket is fractured, and harbors more left-right mental mind fucks than many superior-minded people could manage.Since Peterson is so astute, with an emotionally-driven mind that's married to money, he's forced to repress his personal tug-of-war vernacular. Instead, he wears it on his sleeve. And his chest and back. This jacket serves is his reminder that his distant torment and daily conflict must be presented in a controlled fashion, even if what's underneath is melting.
Dmt, LSD and psilocybin containing mushrooms are amazing. I could remember several years ago, I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with BPD. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? 🙏
YES very sure of Doctor.jeremyy. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, BPD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
How do i reach out to him? Is he on insta
Sure
Research shows that psilocybin mushrooms have promising results for mental health support, particularly in reducing symptoms of depression, anxiety and PTSD.
I’ve had a truly positive and amazing results with mushrooms. It was incredible!
How to get em?
dr.melvinshrooms got you covered.-:
Can he be on Instgram?
Yes, that’s his name.
"Beware of unearned Wisdom", that's a brilliant quote.
Thanks i didn't quite got it english is not my mother lenguage
@@unlocopsi are you an orphan?
I can’t handle his jacket… he’s only a nice face paint away from becoming the joker. 🤡
Thats literally psychedelic's in a nutshell. Overwhelming feeling with zero tangible wisdom. God says to avoid drugs for a reason. Some can still operate well while under immediate or residual effects. But it creates shit like the american sexual revolution thats been a major societal pollution since when it was supposed so be a breakthrough of "love".
@@syalda0001 Two face ;)
“Turn on, tune in, grow up!” Jordan Peterson. Absolutely brilliant.
I like it better when I "grow up, tune in and turn on". 😂
“Remove the inhibition of memory from perception “ that is real as real gets and that is exactly what a psychedelic experience can bring and has brought to me…not every time but the few true over the top defining trips in my life have and that’s life changing and life growing
Every high is a new low.
@@kjmergen every low is a new high
It's kind of what I think fetuses/newborns are experiencing. A world uninhibited by ego and memories.
Jordan with the two face blazer is killing it.
Right. Whats with the suit
Totally! Fun facts: that ‘duality’ suit was a gift someone made for him.
The blue side is made of sheep wool with a silk lining of sky and clouds ..and the maroon side’s made of goat’s wool and lining’s fire.
@@Val_Halla777 cool story bro
So ugly
🤩❤
Harvey Dent is making some valid points here
I could only imagine his thought process before buying that piece. "It reflects the underlying internal conflicts between good and evil, chaos and order, further it embodies the Jungian idea of the shadow"
-ye buy that.
Jordan Peterson, can we trust him?
😂😂😂
@@neinbruderja7519 Someone made it for him if i remember correctly
That's jordan peterson. Harvey dent is a fictional character in the batman comics/movies
“Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behaviour and information processing. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong.” - Terence Mckenna
great quote, but it's objectively false
We can stop commenting this on every video about psychedelics
There's a debate between Ram Dass and Terrence Mckenna on youtube somewhere. Ram Dass was a Harvard professor, took LSD and eventually went to India and he said he became enlightened. Terrence Mckenna took LSD and then never stopped taking it. The difference in style was marked. Mckenna sounded like an agressive hobo vs Ram Dasses gentle, compassionate but firm way of talking. McKenna was eventually consumed by drugs.
They needed all that to be honest 🤷🏽♂️
I don’t believe in you
“Beware of unearned wisdom” is a trope. It was peddled in Mormonism my whole life and I still see it online today.
The same can be said for the techniques used by so-called prophets, seers, revelators, and every-day priesthood holders.
Beware of self-proclaimed, unexamined wisdom is more like it.
"Remove the inhibition of memory from perception." What a great observation.
That statement doesn’t make sense in terms of the point he’s trying to make.
@@mattslev it made sense to me and at least 28 other people that liked this comment. Maybe you're the one with poor comprehension skills
@@mattslev how so, cause you said so? it made a lot of sense in relation to my own trips
@@mattslev yes it does, it removes fundamental subjectivity. Andrew Gallimore wrote a great book about how the brain works and the concept of world building. Read it
@@marcinczapski8547 don’t listen to Matt… he most likely puts himself on the same table as Jordan and just wants to be confrontational because he thinks he knows better… Delusional comment and commenter Matt is. A nobody.
Happy to see Jordan Peterson back on JRE
Ugh no Jordan🤪
He seems in much better shape than his last conversation on rogan
He's like a mutt you fed one too many times.
Someone need to do parodies of him. Jim Carey would pull off a great Peterson
was he really addicted to benzos? that the rumour I heard anyway.
The reason Jordan Peterson is so popular is because our world has gone mad and he's saying what most of us are thinking but very eloquently
Someone copied ur comment and got more likes
@@claypop17 😂
USA isn't 'world'
@@claypop17 You must be one of those people who get 500 likes and edit the comment to say " Im Famous" 😆
You have to like your own comment right after posting to get visibility
Psychedelic mushrooms really healed me years back. Totally got rid of depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction.
Psychedelics should only be used with great care and respect, I would love to feel same man , how do you source em
dr.perryshrooms is your guy. Got all kinds of psychedelics stuff. Guided me through my first ever experience
Yes, dr.perryshrooms. There's a lot of potential in psychedelics
The use of magic mushrooms can completely help one get over addiction and depression. but there’s a big risk if you eat the wrong type
hm. Can dr.perryshrooms dispatch to me in LA?
3:13 has to be one of my favorite Peterson moments...seeing him smile and laugh like that, a man as serious, smart, respectful, and just down right amazing all around, made me genuinely happy.
Weirdo
This is the most pathetic thing I've ever read.
Right off the rip Jordan says that the use of fire is 2million years old… which is 1000% wrong.. beware of unearned knowledge. This guy just learns the minuscule amount he needs about current topics and then goes on to act like a professional about it.. it’s weird as shit.
“Beware of unearned wisdom” is such an interesting statement.
reminds me of how the masons or cults do there stuff, they give infeormation over time and work u into it cuz if they just gave everything outright it would be confusing and chaos
Joe rogan & Jordan Peterson talking about psychedelics... *This is definitely gonna be interesting*
Joe Rogan and whatever guest, talk about Psychedelics is NOT interesting lmao it’s like every other episode of the JRE. Lol
From my experience/experimentation, I believe psychedelics/mediation/sound frequencies breaks down the barrier between our conscious and subconscious mind, allowing our conscious mind to experience our sub conscious thoughts, feelings and memories..... however I also believe, in our subconscious mind we can access the universal consciousness......
One of my first truly breakthrough experiences, during my own experimentation was this..... the words/feeling/communication I was experiencing, felt as if they were coming from someone/something/somewhere else.......
""""" Hey we've been waiting for you....... don't be scared...... don't be scared....... your family is here with us..... you don't really know him well, but he's family, he's family...... it's (then proceeded to tell me a name) he's safe, he's here with us, he's your family don't worry, he's with us""""
3 days later I was with my mum and we were talking about our family and I was asking if any of my older family members had caught or been effected by c v..... at first she said no.... then after a short pause she said her cousin..... with the same name I had heard/felt/experienced 3 days before had been in a coma for 4 days with pneumonia and died the day after my experience......... I was gobsmacked and instantly began to feel an incredibly sadness this was one of the most profound experiences of my life......... I had only ever met the man a few times and never really seen him or his family in my day to day life or on social media as I only use this......... there had been no mention from anyone or way of me knowing about his predicament in the weeks prior.
I was a hard-core atheist before this....... now I have a new found sense of........ enlightenment amazement, fascination and desire to discover the world to which is there but we cannot see or experience, not in our normal state anyway.....
Peace, power and freedom to all the psychonauts out there.......
@@courtneysettepani9782 psychedelics are never not interesting
Not that interesting
Just wait for all the drug dealer comment bots
This conversation was awesome. Brought to my mind a comparison between psychedelics and the "forbidden fruit" or "apple of knowledge"? Interesting thought.
Good observation
It really calls into question the whole experience of religion and garden of Eden when you put it in those terms
Wow what a great insight!
Never once have I thought about it like that! “The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.”
Taking said fruit caused Adam and Eve to recognize their naked bodies. They then attempt to (1) clothe themselves and (2) hide from God.
yes, a lot of spiritual teachings also implies that truth is the end of knowledge
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area, I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
Magic mushrooms don't only help with mental health, they help amplify your empathy, if people were more empathetic the world would be a better place
/fungi_haven1/
Got psychs
@Jason caragher yeah he's got magic mushrooms, dmt, lsd and other psychs
@@bigchris5552thanks for that information bro, I'll reach out to him right away
Ketamine is legal for treatment of depression in the US
JRE when you're working on a Saturday is bloody well great man.
Love the suit Jordan is wearing... Gives him that Harvey dent Two-Face DC villain look 😂
Idk ,i see the joker there ..
Jordan's Jungian shadow has CLEFT HIM IN TWAIN! :D
2 suits McGee
"JBP in his custom Heaven and Hell suit. The blue fabric is made from sheep wool and the red fabric is made from goat wool."
the face refresh is killer too
"Beware of unearned wisdom" is right on. Pretentious people are trouble.
the Jung quote at the end is perfect. Reminds me this guy who once told me, "It's ok to take psychedelics to reach enlightenment, as long as you remember that you're getting enlightenment on credit. If you just keep tripping and going to festies and doing nothing to better humanity and the world, you will build up a huge karmic debt, and it will be hard to get out of it."
actually, there's another great quote about psychedelics by Alan Watts (I think it was Watts, not sure): "Once you get the message, hang up the phone."
Beware of unearned wisdom...and of unearned self-esteem. BTW, is it me or is Peterson looking much healthier and energetic and more rested than usual? Always good to hear him speak and provoke further thought in my own mind, whether I agree with him or not on a particular subject.
Unearned self-esteem? What a completely childish sentiment that is... Anyone who is a person who exists has already "earned" the capacity for self-esteem simply by virtue of being a human person.
In the podcast, in the beginning, both Peterson and Rogan show grins that are of the purest kind: genuine happiness to be talking together again in comradery. It's a sight to see, very contagious. I'd invite you all to participate as it brought a contagious smile to my face and soul.
This comment was super Gaye
Good to see jordan back to his old self, i was worried he was changed forever the last time he was on as result of the benzo struggle.
Best "unique" description of the psychedelic experience I've heard in a long time. Not sure where Jordan was saying he read that or if he broke it down himself, but he nailed it. From where he was talking about the JRE sign for anyone wondering which part. I'm starting to wonder if "expanding your mind" wasn't just a neat way to describe how psychedelics really work. I've seen recently how brain scans of people on psilocybin mushrooms show an explosion of new connections in the brain, which might explain that feeling of profound understanding, which leaves you with nothing tangible afterwards, other than maybe a new insight into a problem afterwards. Just a renewed sense of connection with the world.
Lol you obviously haven't done them then
Go be gay somewhere else
@@Ryan88881 do you get off on laughing at obvious things or something?
@@snakejazz Pretty sure OP didn't realize how obvious it was so yes I think that's funny.
I’m convinced some of the best music in history was created on some of this stuff.
4:32 Jordon Peterson quoting Carl Jung saying, "Beware of unearned Wisdom," may be the best collection of 4-words ever strung together in a sentence relating to the cerebral. I can think of a few more that are less erudite. 🙏🏾😇
"Beware of Unearned Wisdon"... Oh WOW! That kind of blows my mind. 👀
"Beware of unearned Wisdom" "Beware of cult of personality".
Yes Jordan, you should definitely beware of those...
...and so should your fans.
Right. It's actually a weirdly ironic quote, and I wonder if people are processing what they're upvoting.
Still, I loved Peterson's psychedelic positivity in this clip. He also interviewed Dennis McKenna a month or two ago. Dennis has to be a little less than totally honest about his DMT experiences these days, though....
That is why EGO is very important too. It helps you draw the line and helps you to ground yourself. Sure psychedelics are good and give you insight, shows you on the needed changes, helps anxiety and depression, but ego helps you analyze and set boundaries when its needed...
anxiety is what helps you analyze and set boundries. ego is the opposite. it makes you confident in yourself, which, in turn, make others confident in you for some weird reason.
People often mistake confidence for intelligence or adeptness, but its actually completely unrelated other than its tendency to convince others that youre right for that weird reason again.
@@scorch4299 I don't think you mean anxiety but more in regards to flight or fight response. Anxiety is an issue where you feel you are dying, over thinking, taking things too literal as a problem, etc according to the sx. A flight or fight response is when a situation is presented and a quick response is needed. While you're right, ego is confidence and can get out of hand if not controlled, setting boundaries is ego as well, as it is the response of thinking things through instead of jumping the ship because you feel like it. Think it as the brain and the heart. The heart sets no boundaries but the brain does. The heart loves but the brain makes sure to take it slow or see things in a 3rd perspective..
I've always thought that the notion how the ego is unhelpful and the enemy (a popular opinion in spiritual circles) is false. Ego is necessary. Without ego, I would not have the motivation to do anything. Whats your thoughts on that ?
@@hablabamosa ego is basically your personality, character, traits of what makes you. Its not entirely bad how some spiritual groups make it seem. Without it, we would not be here in the first place. Too much ego tho allows arrogance, bad behavior, all the bad shit in your life. I would say, keep it in check, and you should be fine. We are all living a human experience..
@@scorch4299 ego is decision making
"Turn on, tune in, drop out" did not mean wandering around like stoned hippies at a love-in. It meant, seeking answers, observing carefully and questioning everything.
Currently reading and absolutely loving the book by Brian.
My friend tripped for the first time yesterday, and what JP describes is exactly what he experienced. He realized a lot about himself and about the world. "Beware of unearned wisdom" is such a wise quote.
"What a psychedlic does in part is remove the inhibition of memory from perception and that re-immerses you in the complex world" There's this video that changed my life. This guy named Jiddu Krishnamurti talks about this very thing that Jordan was talking about here. He says that if you remove everything you've ever thought of or experienced, your "ability to observe without judgement will become your highest form of intelligence" (JK). Here's the vid: ua-cam.com/video/Tq1V7w2iUXg/v-deo.html
Thats, what we actually are -- but chose to forget, to hide from ourself. Below our hypercomplex interrelating layers of thought is that which knows them, is aware of them, like it is aware of the body in form of sensations. Its not the body which is aware -- it is awareness which is aware.
Well that could be rough on a lot of people to do this, and NCL using myself. I am a therapist.
what book is he referring to by Brian Maresco?
@@salkinfamilychiropractic3142 the immortality key
This is basically the taoism view of pure potentiality - the uncarved block
WE LOVE YA JOE AND JORDAN
What a time to be alive.
Why? The time we are in is kinda boring. Not much going on...
@@maddymcmadingson6296 we just dont feel it in our comfy houses
@@maddymcmadingson6296 I was born in the 80’s, books were boring, poetry was read in classes, history books then only told parts of the story, what we see now was was science fiction. Now every week we learn more and more about truths, you kids are spoiled and take things for granted. We had to read books to learn everything, now you just watch a video and a person will tell you everything you need to know.
@@uncletony3025No lies detected 🫶
Thank you Jamie!! Nobody says it enough, without you JRE wouldn’t be the same, thanks for all the clips over the years dude!
Totally agree!!
👏👏👏👏
"Jamie pull that clip up" has become a catchphrase over the years, and I'm all for it !
“Jamie, pin that comment where that guy was praise in your hard work.” - Joe Rogan, wishfully
Jamie is the MVP. He deserves more.
I could sit in a room and talk to Peterson for hours and hours, about toaster ovens.. and still enjoy the thoroughness of the conversation lol
If Jordan could come on every 3-6 months, I truly believe we would all benefit.
Definitely listening to this pod today 😃
Immediately headed to the "other platform" to listen to these two, but not all of my favorite minds, and their fascinating conversation exchange. I never tire of listening/watching to either man. With much appreciation!
its good to see jordan laugh so much
I love the fact that these men are well educated and versed in life experience and speak on the possibilities that are concept on life is Mis construed if not mid lead. To take accountability not only for our actions but on what we understand. Thank you gentlemen🙏
@Luckwood Donald i appreciate it but since my awakening I don’t need psychedelics I tap in regardless. Unless I stayed on a trip warning do with caution.
Tbh who says we have a set concept on what life is. Nobody has the right to say what life is nor the proper knowledge. Life is what the individual assigns life to be, the sooner anyone realizes the sooner they can be happier
Thats so true how it removes memory how insightful to recognize that. Im not a crazy psych taker but ive taken em plenty and never really thought of it that way but now I see it.
I’ve had mushrooms turn letters and numbers into meaningless shapes, I went for a ride on my bike 🚲 it was a profound experience.
Dude throws a party for 13 people, wakes up few days later in a cave and we still talk about it 2000 years later. One hell of a party
😂
We also use AD, BC most of the world, a lot of whom are atheists and Islamic…Bible is most popular book in the world, Christianity has the most diverse followers (USA, Africa, Asia etc etc) the reason it’s still around is because it’s the Truth. If you took some mushrooms, all the lies and bias would be stripped away and you’d see Reality
Comes from the Heavens over a flat earth, pays for my sins,
kicks out hell. One fabulous party, yes.
Ah yes ...the judges of the universe. We who believe out of nothing came everything; and get the rational out of the irrational....we who share a common ancestry with banana...our great grand daddy was wet rock... primordial soup, to be fancy. Accidental star dust. We hold the keys to reality and wisdom. Not some 2,000 year old fable upon which all of Wester civilization is built..no. our A-moral worldview is far superior...yes.
"yeah, table for 26, please."
Thank you JP for all you do for Canadians...we need your voice.
Around 2 minutes into this video he said something that reminded me of davantes travel through perdition to reach Paradise
The way he just described psychedelics is awesome, I couldn’t have done it better
I could listen to Jordan all day long I love learning new things and listening to his advice
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery, it's quite fascinating how effective they're for depression and stress disorders.They saved my life they definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression,I would like to try them but it's hard to source them here
[myco_tray]
Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it instagram?
@@Jerryberger9235 Yeah, he's got chocolate bars, magic mushrooms and other psych's
@@sarahh321 Thank you, I’ll get some right away
I had to give up my caffeine addiction after I was saved. I suggest you look into testimonies of Christians who were convicted to give up drugs and then rethink the path you're on.
So glad Jordan peterson is back
Can't wait to see the full interview
where’s the full interview 😢
@@spencer6288 Spotify?
Looked everywhere on spotify cant find the full interview!
@@adarsh4121 type Joe Rogan Jordan Peterson and it should pop up
" TURN ON, TUNE IN , GROW UP " 😍👌🏾
Timothy Leary came into a dive bar we were at and sat down on a stool next to us. He had given a speech at the local college that evening and had just wandered on down the hill afterwards looking for a cold local micro brew and some relaxation. A few of our professors were into local mushrooms at the time and would often bring a jar of them to the same bar to share. Chill days!
This is off the back of brian c. murareskus book "the immortality key" which JP wrote the foreword. It deep drives into the use of psychedelics in religion..15 hours worth of listening but worth it 👍👍
I have finished that book more than 8 times and listen to the audio book on every road trip or plane ride.
exactly! highly recommended!
I love Dr. Peterson's deep and thoughtful insights.
I urge anyone to listen to his lectures. I learned a lot.
Yes. He has a very interesting mind, and a good heart. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't really paid attention, they just see those little clips taken out of context.
@Google Sucks Ass what do you find him dishonest about?
I just bought some acid tabs about a month ago, 3 of them for $20. Gonna wait for the summer and trip while on a hiking trip, idk why but that’s always been on my bucket list. Can’t wait for this summer.
They’re gonna be expired by then.
Wrap it in tinfoil and a baggy and keep it ina dark place should be g
@@Patrick3183 probably dry already 😢
"Turn on, Tune in, Grow Up!"
Jordan Peterson's best advice, ever.
ahhh, I could listen to conversations between them all day. And when I'm done, I'll march over to my dad and have a random philosophical conversation.
That 2 tone suit is courageous in itself.. 😂... just picking Dr Peterson I love it
"JBP in his custom Heaven and Hell suit. The blue fabric is made from sheep wool and the red fabric is made from goat wool."
It is courageous, lol. Just watched the podcast, JP & Joe joking about it. The dark left side is JP'S way of acknowledging his own malevolence
What a great explanation of the psychedelic experience
The use of psychedelics by shamans wasn't a rejection at all, it was literally how they were able to channel such powerful wisdom and make observations about medicine and psychology that compete with modern medicine, it's just different everywhere. The indians, Sitting Bull had the best ganja, history just tells us it's "powerful medicine" he initially showed the american settlers.
Thank you for this clarity
Jbp the type of guy you ask “how’s it goin” and immediately blinks 22 times, chuckles for few seconds, sweats profusely, tears up, bites his lip and says “it’s going pretty..okay for now”
I could listen to this man talk for hours. Such an interesting mind.
I can't imagine being qualified enough, or brave enough to interview Jordan Peterson.
3:56 Joe is describing Jordan Peterson 😂
And maybe even himself
Tought the same thing
They were exchanging passive aggressive insults. :)
I think Joe said those thing on purpose because hes very smart, for a subtle reminding not to go down that road. And Jordan was instantly well aware of his hint. They both knew and in their minds agreed that they should be more careful about this. Very subtle stuff.
that last part is short but deep meaning "beware of unearned wisdom"
I think psychedelics should be taken more seriously. People really need to quit looking at it as a party drug and see it as something that can help humanity.
Love when this man is on!
When I was like 10 I had a 104 fever and had the worst fever dream and it was of a bunch of burning grass and bushes around me and it felt literally like the world was ending and like I was in hell. I still think about that dream sometimes 11 years later
Neat
3:15 might be the first time i've seen Jordan Peterson laugh/smile 😂😂
You can do psychedelics and not go sideways. It may change your life, but it’s not like other drugs.
psilocybe cubensis helped me immensely.
I took LSD and ended up murdering a sidewalk.
So its a good thing?
@@scorch4299 I assassinated my own shadow on LSD. It was incredible.
Psychedelics changed my life, I am so grateful for it 💪 it is truly life changing!
JESUS SAVES
@@CHEESEBURGER-tf9mc Except those thousands of children dying of stage 4 leukemia.
@@orion9977 That's the Devil's fault bro
Hallucinations are a common side effect of starvation. I have always wondered if that biblical story about Moses seeing god in the burning bush might have been a side effect of his extended fasting at the time...
Far more likely than getting direct instructions from the creator of the entire universe
My father, Psychoanalyst/Author/Philosopher, Rolf R. Loehrich (Berlin 1913 - 1995 Van Can) did some of the very first Governmental LSD Experiments, before Leary. He wrote about it in his autobiography (not published). My father worked with Carl Jung and corresponded with Freud.
That's fascinating. Are you in the Psychiatric Field yourself?
All religions say basically the same thing, 'What you are looking for is inside of you' Do not make your home in this world because it is temporary, find the infinite within and focus on that.
Jordan Peterson is the epitome of the enlightenment and self awareness levels that most of us try really hard to achieve but wonder how the hell we can really get to that amazing mindset!
To add: holy crap, his blazer rocks! Symbolic, I'm guessing...
This is the gayest post I've read on the internet in years.
Im hoping they expose the ongoing Torture Program here in the US. The US is currently Targeting and Torturing innocent civilians with Voice to Skull Directed Energy Weapons. Ive been Targeted since Oct 5th 2018. The goal is to force suicide the targeted individual.
Thank you Mr.Rogen and Mr.Peterson for ,once again blowing my mind and at the same time embracing my soul ever welcoming my place in our greater consciousness.
The Seth Rogen Podcast..
I've accessed places in the spiritual realm through deep prayer that I'd call "visions" that were so real to me that they were life changing- without taking exogenous substances to experience them, so I do think that there are organic ways to access the supernatural realm...and that's cool. But, I do believe I was also being drawn by an entity outside of myself to allow it to happen. That has made a believer outta me.
It is important for a lot of people to remember that psychedelics wouldnt work at all in our brains, if we hadnt already evolved the neurological "keyholes" and underlying circuits for the "lockpicks" of the drug molecules to open
We had to evolve those circuits entirely on our own , for psychedelics to even remotely have a chance of neurologically opening them
The best working argument we have as to how we evolved them, is thought to be that early hominds evolved the ability to enter altered states spontaneously as the result of autohypnosis or other trance inducing behavior via natural selection , and this was spread and conserved as part of wider selection for religiosity , both of which are very likely to be intertwined with both our propensity towards music, and creating strong social bonds through shared ideas and experiences
Basically the monkeys who could make themselves feel funny around the fire by singing and dancing together, and who wanted to build culture around those shared experiences became us.
Psychedelics came much much later
@@craigsurette3438 interesting hypothesis to consider, seems plausible in many respects, evolutionary neurobehavior development....another piece of the puzzle, thanks!
Good thread
There is no supernatural, and spiritual is in your mind.
@@morbidmanmusic proof?
He’s back y’all 🤜🏻 love your work!
Beware of unearned wisdom
“You Either Die A Hero Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain.”
Jordan Peterson is quickly becoming the 21st century’s John Galt.
I love you, Jordan Peterson. I am so glad I followed teachings starting at the young age of 16. Im 22 now, and prospering. And I’m sure, I’m just one of millions.
Love the knowledge ..... much respect and love thanks from orange county CA
I think it's hilarious that I'm about to take a Psychedelic journey in a few minutes and a video with two of my idols having a conversation on the topic is at the tippidy top of my feed. God is a comedian. Either that or UA-cam is run by spies. Either way, what a blessing.
how was it?
Describe your trip brother
KEEP ON TRIPPING THE LIVE FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE
Your comment is GOLD❗️✨🥳✨
hope you had a profound and rewarding experience ❤
Jordan is a great intelligent man!
I saw a fallen angel on Psychedelics and gave my life to Jesus ♥️♥️♥️ I can go into details if anyone likes. But I feel my questions were answered.
Explain more please??
What's funny is that I started this podcast and I couldn't pay attention to my work. It dawned on me that my room was a mess so I spent 4 hours cleaning my room while listening to this, completely forgot that, that is one of Peterson's life advice is to clean your room.
The doctor had much to say I suspect patient is very ill :) I also enjoyed the Exodus series way more than I expected. Promise you will do one podcast and talk like you talk during the lunch, much respect, thank you gents
His Hair transplant has worked WONDERS
Bring on Paul Wallis !
This is very fitting for Dr. Jordan Peterson to come back to have this talk with Joe.
"Beware of unearned Wisdom" is a quote that many favour and relate.
In my experience, wisdom is a hill climb, and takes effort, however, about half way up one may transition to *Truth*. Which is in contrast effortless, and not so much earned, but enjoyably and exponentially received, co-refined, and re-kindled, being a long 'time' lost.
'Earning' suggests a before..and after, a past to present, where as truth glides effortlessly always..in the present. And it's essence is gleamed simply, like toes refreshingly draped in cool river current, on a beautiful, warm summer's day. It is the infinite, untainted canvas always welcome. Under subjective brush stroke.
These two guys just click together 😀
your suit is psychedelic
The Jacket Analysis: Think of the process Peterson underwent to present a "silent," two-sided, symbolic statement to Joe and his audience . His muted red and blue jacket may be a nod to American-pride, without leaning left or right. But look deeper. Peterson's business attire baseline is conservative. If anything, his style is more formal, and old-world. The man donning this silly jacket is fractured, and harbors more left-right mental mind fucks than many superior-minded people could manage.Since Peterson is so astute, with an emotionally-driven mind that's married to money, he's forced to repress his personal tug-of-war vernacular. Instead, he wears it on his sleeve. And his chest and back. This jacket serves is his reminder that his distant torment and daily conflict must be presented in a controlled fashion, even if what's underneath is melting.
Insightful.
@@a_brand_architect #TRUE
@@a_brand_architect thnx. I adore+ have learned lots from Jordan Peterson, but I think he's on the brink of some emotional overspill. Hope I'm wrong.
He put into words what I thought was impossible to explain. @2:30
I was wondering what clip they would upload on YT, should've been the one where JP talks about what makes abusive men. It was brilliant.
GOD is real