I don’t have four stars built other than the obvious ones but I do always pick the start that gives a random 4-star temp recruitment so now I have an official scale for how blessed or cursed a run is
when i see caper it reminds me that it has been a morbillion years since we have had a new 6star antiair sniper, its like that factory machine meme, "guess we making quirky snipers now"
Cool video, one small problem - this is not 3 hours long and doesn't explain every single tiny detail about an operator and their uses in various is4 stages
Since I started watching your content I've raised 20 4 stars to e2 and unlocked various modules. I definitely don't use them as well as you do but it's a fun challenge.
13:43 and even so i slap a Deepcolor in my runs every time i can haha Good video, honestly when i seen where you put Estelle i was ofended until i remember that every time i picked her without a healer she exploded, even Zima can survive longer
Perfumer could probably stand out more, since you can now pick the Relic that gives you 25% ATK and 25 ASPD, however lose 25HP per second. With Perfumer, effectively that penalty is negated, allowing operators to be deployed outside medic range without urgencies. And she will still heal allies with her talent if you got any ATK related relic or her S2 skill turned on.
damn 1 whole stage Want to point out that chestnut in particular is an awful pick for that stage. The simplest way to beat it is to seperate the casters from the dockworkers and just spank them separately That requires outhealing their damage (or stun bombs) Chestnut doesn't heal fucking anything
Beanstalk is one of my favorite first picks for IS4, raw damage is low, but she can take down drones, generate DP, and tank damage. Eating nukes like a big pile of Gravel also comes up surprisingly often. But she isn't good on the IS4 first boss fight, because of all that ice that prevents her from dropping her crabs.
Probably you should specify the ranking is for max difficulty (15), no? Like i see no point in taking 4* defender other then Gummy if you play on diff 5 or below (or just use 3* to save hope?). Also might you consider that Conviction has 5% chance to move one tier higher, esp with spinach type relics?
Deepcolor is OK very early on, when you dont have very many options for blockers, and functions better as staller support (she is a supporter after all). I'd bump her up one more, but she does fall off harder the longer the run goes.
She falls off on floor 2 imo And she isn't great on floor 1 to begin with. not worth the hope unless you're 100% sure you will die without more block/arts and roberta/podenco aren't leveled.
She also needs her module to be viable, otherwise she's extremely limited by the number of tentacles she gets (since she can't replenish them) The DP cost reduction helps a lot too. Problem is, she needs early promotion for that which isn't guaranteed, and as Silvergun says, she drops off pretty fast in this mode. Unless you're starving for blockers early on, it's better to take Ethan when the Specialist ticket appears.
At low difficulty, Deepcolor is fine; once it gets closer to 15, her tentacles just don’t have the stats to be relevant. Also too few relics that buff her to gamble on them showing up.
I remember back in IS1, couldn't start without Mayer or Indigo heading the run, and got the other one as soon as possible. Heck, that lasted so many years I even did it in IS3. :D
Great overview of why to use each Operator. Love that Frostleaf is her own tier lol. And I just realized this is assuming runs at BN15? cause for really low BN/monthly nearly anything goes.
Pretty shocked you ranked Deepcolor that low, considering i learnt the low star summoner tech from you (or some other Nicheknights IS youtuber). As a Meta 6-star IS player, the DP problem is really prevalent even with Myrtle because ALL the stages just rushes you with some enemies the moment you play the stages. And you can't block with myrtle and gain dp at the same time because the starting enemy spawns frequently enough to keep Myrtle from being free to print DP, so i just plop Deepcolor and that problem is gone. Who cares if her tentacle dies very fast, all i need is for her to hold while Myrtle prints DP, and with Deepcolor's low low cost of 8 DP plus her 3 DP tentacles, i can confidently say she is one of the only cheap viable solution against early enemy rush/DP conundrum. And that is one of the tenet of how i solve DP problem, you can stall with kinda mediocre/trash ops if you can't deploy your good ops yet, because the majority of the stages are designed to have low-medium starting pressure that wanes and calms in the middle but spikes up drastically towards the end, so you need to make sure your cores are ready by that time. But i suppose Silvergun would not subscribe to that idea because 4* are inherently cheap and the cores are easy to deploy unlike my meta build which are Typhon GoldenGlow a 6* healer and healing defender plus spamming Texalter or some other helidrop, which boy howdy is more costly than the upcoming limited banner marathon.
Roberta is outright better than dc for that very purpose 4 more dp but won't die to random trash Can block up to 3 Doesn't need a safe range tile More useful past the first 5 seconds Also keep in mind roberta mostly does that at e1 At e1 DC needs 13 DP to drop something far squishier than roberta so it's even more in favor of roberta
@DrSilvergun Oh yeah Roberta is such a sleeper. Haven't build her yet that's why i bias pick Deepcolor every time but the times i got for free she is a good cheap early staller with way more utility thanks to her device. Tho i still kinda like Deepcolor for her higher dps-at-home with her range and arts and tentacle splitboxing shenanigans. But yeah, Roberta is a serious good pick.
i'd argue that Conviction actually should be in niche tier, just don't use her for blocking and only for dps and get good rng and she can dish out some good damage with s1, it's unreliable but it is a niche also you forgot to mention Ambriel's most important feature: she can kill the second support drone in the ending 1 boss fight if you use the aspd foldartal, it's something not even Walter can do
I agree conviction is the closest of the "use a 3 star" guards to niche. Problem is opportunity cost, You'd rather pick a number of other guards over her.
@@DrSilvergun fair point, but isn't the whole point of the niche/needs items tier to point out operators that can do well under very specific circumstances?
@@GBlockbreaker Anything can be good enough with good enough items. The reason Conviction isn't worth picking is that other operators will outdps her with the same items while not sharing her weaknesses. I don't think the low dp cost compensates the self stun because in effect it delays when she can become active so she has a pseudo high dp cost.
I started building 4 stars after watching @DrSilvergun. It is much more fun to play that way! I'm not as big of a brain player as he is, so I go usually with four to five 6-stars in IS and one 6- and two 5-stars in normal. That way I finally started reading descriptions on mechanics and treat 6-stars as an elite carry-unit and not just hammers where everything else is nails. Thanks for inspiration!
I was using Cutter yesterday and got a relic that was +ATK when op not using skill, up to 60% ATK, until skill use. And the one that's +100% damage for few seconds upon skill use. Her S2M1 was hitting for 7-8k per hit lol.
It took me longer than it should have to realize frostleaf had her own tier edit:I’m assuming this is for IS4 on difficulty 15 I use courier on difficulty 5 and he seems ok
I think Quartz could move up slightly, mostly due to how large HP pools are generically useful for any of the IS4 endings. Additionally, she's one of the few Guards that can even stun - though the chance is relatively low, there's a bevy of items that can both improve both the stun efficacy and the stun chance (attack speed), giving her surprising amounts of utility and survivability. Similarly, Crushers secretly having "attacked targets equal to block" trait allows S2 at E1 to trash clear very effectively in the early stages (Ghosts of the Resort, Prisoners, etc).
Jaye used to be really good in the very first IS. Mostly because he was a fast redeploy as well as being a healer. Also because the enemies back then were mostly infected.
Tbh it's not exactly what i expected from is tier list. Most of the operators that i though are good are in fact high in tier list, but some are pretty low, like vigna or podenco. And the most unexpected is that frostleaf isn't alone in the bottom tier.
the first time i ever beat IS2 (on regular difficulty) was with a conviction i got from the random 4* starting squad (& game then refused to give me any guard vouchers until like floor 4-5 lmao. i also E2d her at a safehouse or smthing for some reason) and she was my main DPS for 90% of the run unfortunately IS4 is not so forgiving
I always start IS#4 with Gummy, Click, Kroos (or Greythroat if I get some extra hope in the team creation). Maxed E2 M3 Module3 Gummy is still useful in IS#4 endgame, and she's good at the beginning
Do you have the same list for IS3? I've been in hiatus regarding IS/RA modes since ~may 2023 and I want to finally start playing through them slowly. That is why I want to double check any really good 4* ops that I haven't built specifically for IS modes and fill in the blanks as from my experience 4* ops are really good starters due to low hope cost making them less risky to pick without losing too much advantage. Thank you in advance! I value your perspective and expertise in the game overall so considering your opinion is always important for me. Have a good day!
I'll probably make a more extensive one at some point Short version Myrtle is lower value but still good ( less dp checks in IS3) Jaye (More likely to get benefecial items for jaye and he doesn't get instakilled as often) May (100% cause of S2 stun for the stupid stingrays, if you bring a better more consistent source feel free to disregard this) Defenders are lower cause IS3 hates melee operators Guards are still shit That's about it
hmm, the only 4 stars I use in IS4 are gummy(too lazy to manual heal using spot/cardigan) and myrtle(fang first, then change to myrtle if I have excess hope)
Disagree about Estelle. She's much better than Popukar, one of the better units to carry you through floor 1 if you want a meme dysfunctional 6 star start.
when in Elafia knight, all ranked only on Niche and below in is4... with a kinda reliable start, is vivi s2, which really needs tight skill timings :'v she can clear the floor1 prisoner stage without the 2nd block breaking at e1 atleast up to asc 11? if i remember correctly
Non-emergency prisoners stage can be cleared with e1 Viviana on diff15, but it's very unreliable. Good rng of her s2 and rng of the stage aligned less than a half of the time I tried. E2 clears it easily tho. Outside of that Vivi was my favorite start pre-expansion because you actually needed to play properly to win leakless instead of falling asleep on first floor, but new map is just unplayable for her, and I see this map basically every run for some reason. Means you can easily get into the fork between NMtF and Beasts which guaranteeing leaks, or you just will be forced to skip more fights than you wanted to. One more reason to hate expansion for me.
Very generally yes, but it won't translate 100%, for example may is the highest ranked sniper in is3 (stun is paramount) Jaye is much better in IS3 and myrtle is far lower ranked there (DP is less important) All casters are one level down (arts is bad)
I was flabbergasted when I see you didn’t put Earthspirit in Frostleaf tier and even mentioned a potential argument for niche tier. I cannot see Earthspirit being useful in any way whatsoever
@@DrSilvergun I would like to know the reasoning behind Jackie and Beehunter’s placement then. Sure, they’re not good, but I don’t believe they are Frostleaf levels of unusable
@@DrSilvergun Put the bias aside. At least they’re somewhat usable for damage if you don’t make them block enemies (even though blocking and dodging is the whole point but early Hypergryph made a lot more questionable decisions compared to nowadays). Frostleaf is Frostleaf because she literally cannot be used for anything, and her slow is only barely useful if you cope hard. You can’t even hope to put her out of harms way and try to get usability from her range because, again, she does no damage, and her slow is more often than not less than useful. I would say that Frostleaf and Earthspirit share the same level of usefulness; not at all. I would also put Jackie and Beehunter are one tier above them
@@momsaccount4033 1. every other 4* guard (Frostleaf doesn't guard shit) does more damage than beehunter and jackie, there's no reason to pick them for damage. 2. Relying on dodge in a roguelike where you need 40 minutes to get to a fight is not a good idea. 3. Earthspirit A. Does arts damage B. is on a range tile so doesn't block C. Has an AOE D. Good SP Cycle E. Far stronger Crowd Control than Frostleaf You're really really really underestimating how dogshit frostleaf is if you think earthspirit is anywhere near as bad.
deepcolor = IMBA, she can soloing some stages, totally imbalanced on integrated strategies (dp cost, tons of cheap summons). perfumer = IMBA, can heal ALL operators (mudrock, hellagur etc) and NPC too on global range.
Please do 5star and 6star im having trouble when picking who's good and bad im lv45 is IS4 haven't even cleared ending 2 and both IS2/3 are below lvl10 Edit: I hate enemies elemental damage so i didn't play IS2/3 I got ejya berry now so im playing to clear it
Well im only halfyear playing this game at that time so i don't know wtf im doing at that time And prioritise my high rarity operator at that time and didn't know elemental damage
If you want higher rarity picks I recommend checking out dragongjy's IS guide. He goes over the best operators for each class. He also usually mentions an operator's performance in IS when he does an individual video reviewing them on their release. From my personal experience, for IS3 Texas Alter is broken and for IS4 Ines and Typhon are especially excellent, in case you have those three. But there are many others that are good.
Range expands 5x Damage switches to arts 50% of arts dmg done by verdant is dealt as true damage instead Infinite skill duration until switches to doll form +400 ASPD Lose 20% HP per attack This unit cannot be healed If it's health drops below 50% Increase ATK by 100% after the next attack immediately switch to Doll and do 300% ATK in a large radius This still can only be used once.
@@DrSilvergun The fact that i can look at this and not think of it as far fetched is hilarious. legit those additions are prob worse than what Wisadel S3 does lmaooo
@@kyarumomochi5146I mean if he lose 20% of his HP every atk and forced swiched after 50% then he kinda just do 4 attacks then just off himself. Seem legit
@@DrSilvergun i do think she is pretty good in times when an operator is about to die or going to get a good hit from enemy in case you don't have a healer whether you have defender or not
Two seconds into the video you already feck dup, IMO. Myrtle is great yes... ONLY! In mid and late game I.S. why? In early game, most DP you need is never more than 33 dp to start putting your DPS unit or your blocker too especially floor 1. I'm not joking i rather pick fang instead of myrtle for early game and should be put at least a bit lower than must priority to get but it's different case if build for general content however 🙏
If by mid game you mean floor 3 you're correct. I'd rather not bet on having more than one vg ticket by floor 3 so I wouldn't skip her. Whatever you start with it should be able to deal with every F1 and F2 fight so there's no reason to skip an operator you need later anyway.
Basic Basically Basic Basic Basically Basically
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drinking game for every mention
Base sucking Lee
@@hijiriyukaribruh I don't have enough loxic kohl for that
I don’t have four stars built other than the obvious ones but I do always pick the start that gives a random 4-star temp recruitment so now I have an official scale for how blessed or cursed a run is
Based random start doc
@@DrSilvergun "Based" until you get frostleaf as the free 4 star
@@PitangerTrad gotta take the lows with the highs
@@PitangerTrad Me getting Frosleaf as free 4 star: Oh sick an excuse to use frostleaf
Free Bubble start is always a great indication of a prosperous run.
Need tierlist of 4stars for 1-7.
Just Deepcolor'd it
Four AA sniper would do the trick
@@notusneo nah there's 3 lanes with massive hordes of enemies, need at least 3 blockers, 3 healers and 3 strong dps operators.
@@rw6611 if you build them enough 4 aa sniper is all you need, and its also the fastest strat since i am spawn camping
Just Humus it
Love the zoomed in verdant image
when i see caper it reminds me that it has been a morbillion years since we have had a new 6star antiair sniper, its like that factory machine meme, "guess we making quirky snipers now"
We kinda don’t need any more of them, and it seems like so far HG is capping the amount of 6 stars in each branch at 3.
@@echigokurogane8612 Logos is fourth Core Caster thoughts.
Guess we can count ela as the newest antair sniper haha, lost the anti air priority but won the big pp damage
@@januszpolak254 Logos is an elemental drone chain core caster, though. Man's a genetic freak.
@@echigokurogane8612ahhh. There’s no guy six male sniper
Cool video, one small problem - this is not 3 hours long and doesn't explain every single tiny detail about an operator and their uses in various is4 stages
Since I started watching your content I've raised 20 4 stars to e2 and unlocked various modules. I definitely don't use them as well as you do but it's a fun challenge.
Obviously, Podenco is in God tier. No other operators in the game can compete with her. She is best operators you can get in IS 😊
13:43 and even so i slap a Deepcolor in my runs every time i can haha
Good video, honestly when i seen where you put Estelle i was ofended until i remember that every time i picked her without a healer she exploded, even Zima can survive longer
Perfumer could probably stand out more, since you can now pick the Relic that gives you 25% ATK and 25 ASPD, however lose 25HP per second.
With Perfumer, effectively that penalty is negated, allowing operators to be deployed outside medic range without urgencies.
And she will still heal allies with her talent if you got any ATK related relic or her S2 skill turned on.
now do another for the incoming is5
I might do one in the future for IS5 and IS3 (IS2 isn't worth going over)
@@DrSilvergunwhy not is2 tho
@@yoloson1187 It's far easier and basically anything works
Is#2 winning guide: pick a vanguard, a medic and a sniper and you're basically done for the first 2 floors
@@DrSilvergun IS5 making 4* ops free I just want to know if Courier is worth picking in any situation.
"there's no elemental damage in is4"
Hardest stage in floor 3: allow us to introduce ourselves
damn 1 whole stage
Want to point out that chestnut in particular is an awful pick for that stage.
The simplest way to beat it is to seperate the casters from the dockworkers and just spank them separately
That requires outhealing their damage (or stun bombs)
Chestnut doesn't heal fucking anything
@@DrSilvergun dw im just clowning. You'll never catch me defending chestnut 💀
Ethan still reigns supreme. Good.
Beanstalk is one of my favorite first picks for IS4, raw damage is low, but she can take down drones, generate DP, and tank damage. Eating nukes like a big pile of Gravel also comes up surprisingly often. But she isn't good on the IS4 first boss fight, because of all that ice that prevents her from dropping her crabs.
Probably you should specify the ranking is for max difficulty (15), no? Like i see no point in taking 4* defender other then Gummy if you play on diff 5 or below (or just use 3* to save hope?). Also might you consider that Conviction has 5% chance to move one tier higher, esp with spinach type relics?
Deepcolor is OK very early on, when you dont have very many options for blockers, and functions better as staller support (she is a supporter after all). I'd bump her up one more, but she does fall off harder the longer the run goes.
She falls off on floor 2 imo
And she isn't great on floor 1 to begin with. not worth the hope unless you're 100% sure you will die without more block/arts and roberta/podenco aren't leveled.
She also needs her module to be viable, otherwise she's extremely limited by the number of tentacles she gets (since she can't replenish them) The DP cost reduction helps a lot too. Problem is, she needs early promotion for that which isn't guaranteed, and as Silvergun says, she drops off pretty fast in this mode. Unless you're starving for blockers early on, it's better to take Ethan when the Specialist ticket appears.
At low difficulty, Deepcolor is fine; once it gets closer to 15, her tentacles just don’t have the stats to be relevant. Also too few relics that buff her to gamble on them showing up.
I remember back in IS1, couldn't start without Mayer or Indigo heading the run, and got the other one as soon as possible. Heck, that lasted so many years I even did it in IS3. :D
i need this tierlist but for IS5 because they changed it so 4 star will have 0 hope cost
I just started playing is4 again this is fantastic thanks
Surprised Gummy was below Bubble, I had Cuora > Gummy > Bubble in my estimation
Trash mobs are super scary on D15
Also Bubble is weirdly underrated
She's equal to cuora
@@DrSilvergun sir can bubble talent work on art dmg enemy? (range/ melee)
13:55 I love how when Ethan was mentioned the imba tier was pointed at even tho he wasn't ranked yet
Great overview of why to use each Operator. Love that Frostleaf is her own tier lol. And I just realized this is assuming runs at BN15? cause for really low BN/monthly nearly anything goes.
15 Only correct
Pretty shocked you ranked Deepcolor that low, considering i learnt the low star summoner tech from you (or some other Nicheknights IS youtuber). As a Meta 6-star IS player, the DP problem is really prevalent even with Myrtle because ALL the stages just rushes you with some enemies the moment you play the stages. And you can't block with myrtle and gain dp at the same time because the starting enemy spawns frequently enough to keep Myrtle from being free to print DP, so i just plop Deepcolor and that problem is gone. Who cares if her tentacle dies very fast, all i need is for her to hold while Myrtle prints DP, and with Deepcolor's low low cost of 8 DP plus her 3 DP tentacles, i can confidently say she is one of the only cheap viable solution against early enemy rush/DP conundrum.
And that is one of the tenet of how i solve DP problem, you can stall with kinda mediocre/trash ops if you can't deploy your good ops yet, because the majority of the stages are designed to have low-medium starting pressure that wanes and calms in the middle but spikes up drastically towards the end, so you need to make sure your cores are ready by that time. But i suppose Silvergun would not subscribe to that idea because 4* are inherently cheap and the cores are easy to deploy unlike my meta build which are Typhon GoldenGlow a 6* healer and healing defender plus spamming Texalter or some other helidrop, which boy howdy is more costly than the upcoming limited banner marathon.
Roberta is outright better than dc for that very purpose
4 more dp but won't die to random trash
Can block up to 3
Doesn't need a safe range tile
More useful past the first 5 seconds
Also keep in mind roberta mostly does that at e1
At e1 DC needs 13 DP to drop something far squishier than roberta so it's even more in favor of roberta
@DrSilvergun Oh yeah Roberta is such a sleeper. Haven't build her yet that's why i bias pick Deepcolor every time but the times i got for free she is a good cheap early staller with way more utility thanks to her device. Tho i still kinda like Deepcolor for her higher dps-at-home with her range and arts and tentacle splitboxing shenanigans. But yeah, Roberta is a serious good pick.
That's just how IS4 is.
i'd argue that Conviction actually should be in niche tier, just don't use her for blocking and only for dps and get good rng and she can dish out some good damage with s1, it's unreliable but it is a niche
also you forgot to mention Ambriel's most important feature: she can kill the second support drone in the ending 1 boss fight if you use the aspd foldartal, it's something not even Walter can do
I agree conviction is the closest of the "use a 3 star" guards to niche. Problem is opportunity cost,
You'd rather pick a number of other guards over her.
@@DrSilvergun fair point, but isn't the whole point of the niche/needs items tier to point out operators that can do well under very specific circumstances?
@@GBlockbreaker Anything can be good enough with good enough items.
The reason Conviction isn't worth picking is that other operators will outdps her with the same items while not sharing her weaknesses.
I don't think the low dp cost compensates the self stun because in effect it delays when she can become active so she has a pseudo high dp cost.
I started building 4 stars after watching @DrSilvergun. It is much more fun to play that way! I'm not as big of a brain player as he is, so I go usually with four to five 6-stars in IS and one 6- and two 5-stars in normal. That way I finally started reading descriptions on mechanics and treat 6-stars as an elite carry-unit and not just hammers where everything else is nails. Thanks for inspiration!
I was using Cutter yesterday and got a relic that was +ATK when op not using skill, up to 60% ATK, until skill use. And the one that's +100% damage for few seconds upon skill use. Her S2M1 was hitting for 7-8k per hit lol.
It took me longer than it should have to realize frostleaf had her own tier edit:I’m assuming this is for IS4 on difficulty 15 I use courier on difficulty 5 and he seems ok
D15 yeah below D13ish any 4* is fine
I think Quartz could move up slightly, mostly due to how large HP pools are generically useful for any of the IS4 endings. Additionally, she's one of the few Guards that can even stun - though the chance is relatively low, there's a bevy of items that can both improve both the stun efficacy and the stun chance (attack speed), giving her surprising amounts of utility and survivability. Similarly, Crushers secretly having "attacked targets equal to block" trait allows S2 at E1 to trash clear very effectively in the early stages (Ghosts of the Resort, Prisoners, etc).
Jaye used to be really good in the very first IS. Mostly because he was a fast redeploy as well as being a healer. Also because the enemies back then were mostly infected.
He's really good in every other IS except this one
Why is verdants head so fuckin big
Thanks for the reminder to start using my dear, sweet, precious Pinecone more often.
in IS4 I only pick Ambriel because omg so pretty 😍, Perfumer because cheap and Ethan because imba.
Yes ofc myrtle top tier. She is the strongest 7 star unit. 4 star unit with guaranteed 3 star anywhere you bring her
today i learned Jackie and Beehunter are now Frostleaf
purefumer is just ptilopsis but instead the whole map healing turns into an sp boost and there is no status effect resist
Perfumer doesn't give status resist?
@@DrSilvergun pure stream + perfumer
"Scales well with spinnach"
Popeye.
I’m actually surprised at this list. Deep color being that low is interested considering she saved my ass so many times.
Tbh it's not exactly what i expected from is tier list. Most of the operators that i though are good are in fact high in tier list, but some are pretty low, like vigna or podenco. And the most unexpected is that frostleaf isn't alone in the bottom tier.
Podenco isn't exactly bad but more like
copium until you get an op that does the job better
Finally, Frostleaf has her own tier. Oh wait-!
the first time i ever beat IS2 (on regular difficulty) was with a conviction i got from the random 4* starting squad (& game then refused to give me any guard vouchers until like floor 4-5 lmao. i also E2d her at a safehouse or smthing for some reason) and she was my main DPS for 90% of the run
unfortunately IS4 is not so forgiving
All 4 stars in IS-4? I guess you could call them... IS-FOuRCE
I always start IS#4 with Gummy, Click, Kroos (or Greythroat if I get some extra hope in the team creation). Maxed E2 M3 Module3 Gummy is still useful in IS#4 endgame, and she's good at the beginning
Do you have the same list for IS3? I've been in hiatus regarding IS/RA modes since ~may 2023 and I want to finally start playing through them slowly. That is why I want to double check any really good 4* ops that I haven't built specifically for IS modes and fill in the blanks as from my experience 4* ops are really good starters due to low hope cost making them less risky to pick without losing too much advantage.
Thank you in advance! I value your perspective and expertise in the game overall so considering your opinion is always important for me.
Have a good day!
I'll probably make a more extensive one at some point
Short version
Myrtle is lower value but still good ( less dp checks in IS3)
Jaye (More likely to get benefecial items for jaye and he doesn't get instakilled as often)
May (100% cause of S2 stun for the stupid stingrays, if you bring a better more consistent source feel free to disregard this)
Defenders are lower cause IS3 hates melee operators
Guards are still shit
That's about it
@@DrSilvergun sounds legit. And hey, Cutter is still a guard... 🥲
tenninka everywhere
Pinecone mentioned
Jaye being mid is going to hurt since he carries my early game in IS3.
Why is Verdant head so big
used wrong image
@@DrSilvergunno, he has a big brain that's all
It's big from getting hit on the head so many times.
Pick a 3 star tier for rope? Hmmm ofcourse i would pick any other 3 star specialist
Meaning conserve the hope for another op (you can pick a reserve op from spec ticket)
Can we have a tier list for your lists next?
Need ten of those to make a top 10 top 10 list tho
Wait who is the operator beside durnar again? Nobunaga? I swear I've never seen that operator at all. Is this TL based on CN server?
Lutonada
hmm, the only 4 stars I use in IS4 are gummy(too lazy to manual heal using spot/cardigan) and myrtle(fang first, then change to myrtle if I have excess hope)
Disagree about Estelle. She's much better than Popukar, one of the better units to carry you through floor 1 if you want a meme dysfunctional 6 star start.
Hope is a limited resource at d15
Ethan and Myrtle meta once again
I need a tier list for RA obviously to 4 stars, I need a reason to build Beehunter 😢
why is verdant's head so big?
Are u gonna make IS4 run with frostleaf tier ops?🥺
I think Beehunter is good for about floor 1-3 because of her dps but after that defend just up a lot and she become almost useless
thank you DrSilvergun
Mmph, 'lishus AoM OST right there.
when in Elafia knight, all ranked only on Niche and below in is4...
with a kinda reliable start, is vivi s2, which really needs tight skill timings :'v
she can clear the floor1 prisoner stage without the 2nd block breaking at e1
atleast up to asc 11? if i remember correctly
Non-emergency prisoners stage can be cleared with e1 Viviana on diff15, but it's very unreliable. Good rng of her s2 and rng of the stage aligned less than a half of the time I tried. E2 clears it easily tho.
Outside of that Vivi was my favorite start pre-expansion because you actually needed to play properly to win leakless instead of falling asleep on first floor, but new map is just unplayable for her, and I see this map basically every run for some reason. Means you can easily get into the fork between NMtF and Beasts which guaranteeing leaks, or you just will be forced to skip more fights than you wanted to.
One more reason to hate expansion for me.
@@rw6611 sami event where? full elafia ops banner and welfare fr fr
Apparently not bringing Ethan early is why i hated this game mode. TIL
Does this list work for other IS modes?
Very generally yes, but it won't translate 100%, for example may is the highest ranked sniper in is3 (stun is paramount) Jaye is much better in IS3 and myrtle is far lower ranked there (DP is less important) All casters are one level down (arts is bad)
I was flabbergasted when I see you didn’t put Earthspirit in Frostleaf tier and even mentioned a potential argument for niche tier. I cannot see Earthspirit being useful in any way whatsoever
Pick a 3 star is the true lowest tier.
Frostleaf is for cursed stuff.
@@DrSilvergun I would like to know the reasoning behind Jackie and Beehunter’s placement then. Sure, they’re not good, but I don’t believe they are Frostleaf levels of unusable
@@momsaccount4033 I hate using their dodge, super unreliable
@@DrSilvergun Put the bias aside. At least they’re somewhat usable for damage if you don’t make them block enemies (even though blocking and dodging is the whole point but early Hypergryph made a lot more questionable decisions compared to nowadays). Frostleaf is Frostleaf because she literally cannot be used for anything, and her slow is only barely useful if you cope hard. You can’t even hope to put her out of harms way and try to get usability from her range because, again, she does no damage, and her slow is more often than not less than useful. I would say that Frostleaf and Earthspirit share the same level of usefulness; not at all. I would also put Jackie and Beehunter are one tier above them
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1. every other 4* guard (Frostleaf doesn't guard shit) does more damage than beehunter and jackie, there's no reason to pick them for damage.
2. Relying on dodge in a roguelike where you need 40 minutes to get to a fight is not a good idea.
3. Earthspirit A. Does arts damage B. is on a range tile so doesn't block C. Has an AOE D. Good SP Cycle E. Far stronger Crowd Control than Frostleaf
You're really really really underestimating how dogshit frostleaf is if you think earthspirit is anywhere near as bad.
deepcolor = IMBA, she can soloing some stages, totally imbalanced on integrated strategies (dp cost, tons of cheap summons). perfumer = IMBA, can heal ALL operators (mudrock, hellagur etc) and NPC too on global range.
She can't solo shit at d15 *hand of moss isn't a real stage doesn't count
Cutter the goat
Verdant is better than Jaye let's go
Frostleaf 💀😂
Please do 5star and 6star im having trouble when picking who's good and bad im lv45 is IS4 haven't even cleared ending 2 and both IS2/3 are below lvl10
Edit:
I hate enemies elemental damage so i didn't play IS2/3
I got ejya berry now so im playing to clear it
I mean the elemental dmg is not that bad if you know what you're doing
I've cleared IS2 and IS3 without any wandering medic
Well im only halfyear playing this game at that time so i don't know wtf im doing at that time
And prioritise my high rarity operator at that time and didn't know elemental damage
If you want higher rarity picks I recommend checking out dragongjy's IS guide. He goes over the best operators for each class. He also usually mentions an operator's performance in IS when he does an individual video reviewing them on their release.
From my personal experience, for IS3 Texas Alter is broken and for IS4 Ines and Typhon are especially excellent, in case you have those three. But there are many others that are good.
NOOO MY JAYE IN MIDDD
Wow jaye is actually mid and pinecone is good
How to use her on is4 tho? She's feel too expensive DP wise for what she do
Who is this random channel thinking they can talk about 4 stars? They didnt even talk about Verdants s3
Range expands 5x Damage switches to arts
50% of arts dmg done by verdant is dealt as true damage instead
Infinite skill duration until switches to doll form
+400 ASPD
Lose 20% HP per attack
This unit cannot be healed
If it's health drops below 50% Increase ATK by 100% after the next attack immediately switch to Doll and do 300% ATK in a large radius
This still can only be used once.
@@DrSilvergun The fact that i can look at this and not think of it as far fetched is hilarious.
legit those additions are prob worse than what Wisadel S3 does lmaooo
@@kyarumomochi5146I mean if he lose 20% of his HP every atk and forced swiched after 50% then he kinda just do 4 attacks then just off himself. Seem legit
@@Hoshiyomi-w- dont forget that it can be only used once. unironically that skill might be ass lmao
howtf Roberta is niche
Cause a real defender is preferable
But you can't get what you want every time
@@DrSilvergun i do think she is pretty good in times when an operator is about to die or going to get a good hit from enemy in case you don't have a healer whether you have defender or not
9:44 wrong
what is imba
short from "imbalanced"
Jaye 👍
Two seconds into the video you already feck dup, IMO.
Myrtle is great yes... ONLY! In mid and late game I.S. why? In early game, most DP you need is never more than 33 dp to start putting your DPS unit or your blocker too especially floor 1. I'm not joking i rather pick fang instead of myrtle for early game and should be put at least a bit lower than must priority to get but it's different case if build for general content however 🙏
If by mid game you mean floor 3 you're correct.
I'd rather not bet on having more than one vg ticket by floor 3 so I wouldn't skip her.
Whatever you start with it should be able to deal with every F1 and F2 fight so there's no reason to skip an operator you need later anyway.
Is this based on difficulty 15?
Ofcourse
ketamine
What about 5stars?
Not my department
Did you 100% the ending yet? I mean the story behind the ending
don't bother with the lore
Ye demon lore isnt that exciting BUT forcing us doctor to litteraly eat 1 of the bosses alive is pretty damn nut
Last 3 times I reached the boss I had over 30 lives so it's definitely possible
Jaye mid? 🤬😡🤬 Jk idc I rarely IS. I'm guessing he's better IS2 than IS4.
correct
Daily polite reminder to Silvergun that Conviction is a they/them.
Otherwise, 4* content is always fun, get that bag king
Someday I'll get it right
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