in this letter from Audacity... ua-cam.com/video/J-e3xVUo1hE/v-deo.html ... they say they are not a "probrew" but a "premium retro game publishing company" ... but I get what you are saying homebrew is that guy that spends a couple of weeks on a game mostly as a challenge to himself... probrew is something that is commercially published and more focused on gameplay. Good video, the audio was just a little quiet.
The term was thrown out a few places - interviews, blogs, etc. I don't remember all the places. So folks just started discussing. Thanks for the comments and I'll work on that audio level!
If Audacity never said the term probrew then it would seem that the point of this video is largely negated, especially in light of the fact that, not only didn’t they coin the term, they don’t even LIKE the term. Merely calling themselves a premium retro game publishing company isn’t remotely the same as trying to differentiate their product from others as a “probrew” vs “homebrew”; in other words, a manufactured controversy, or as the Bard says, much ado about nothing.
@@WaverBoy You're right. It's just a term that started popping up since the announcement and it caused some discussion. My point is exactly yours. Much ado.
@@HippoBytes I thought your point was that they had called themselves that, and that it was a silly thing to do because it’s not really different from any other homebrews.
I'm very glad that I help in making both box and label art works for this game and other Dan Kitchen games. Can't wait to get this game in the mail. I also made the box art for Tyre Trax as well^_^
Excellent video, and excellent topic! Up until now I had been using the term retro release for professionally made games like Circus Convoy. I'll switch to using your term probrew from here on out.
Hey thanks! ... Well, Audacity coined "Pro Brew"... I just say professional release and I think that includes Atari Age releases too. Homebrew is just an arbitrary term that was endearing to us until a new term was thrown in the mix.
Enjoyed the video! I think it’s great they are still making games for the Atari today! It’s not always about the graphics as it is gameplay! I enjoy purchasing home brews there just as good as the ones back in the day!
in this letter from Audacity... ua-cam.com/video/J-e3xVUo1hE/v-deo.html ... they say they are not a "probrew" but a "premium retro game publishing company" ... but I get what you are saying homebrew is that guy that spends a couple of weeks on a game mostly as a challenge to himself... probrew is something that is commercially published and more focused on gameplay. Good video, the audio was just a little quiet.
The term was thrown out a few places - interviews, blogs, etc. I don't remember all the places. So folks just started discussing. Thanks for the comments and I'll work on that audio level!
Yeah, they even told us they did not like the term in an interview on our podcast...which was a bit uncomfortable because we coined it year before.
If Audacity never said the term probrew then it would seem that the point of this video is largely negated, especially in light of the fact that, not only didn’t they coin the term, they don’t even LIKE the term. Merely calling themselves a premium retro game publishing company isn’t remotely the same as trying to differentiate their product from others as a “probrew” vs “homebrew”; in other words, a manufactured controversy, or as the Bard says, much ado about nothing.
@@WaverBoy You're right. It's just a term that started popping up since the announcement and it caused some discussion. My point is exactly yours. Much ado.
@@HippoBytes I thought your point was that they had called themselves that, and that it was a silly thing to do because it’s not really different from any other homebrews.
I'm very glad that I help in making both box and label art works for this game and other Dan Kitchen games. Can't wait to get this game in the mail.
I also made the box art for Tyre Trax as well^_^
"you can't smell a download" - I love that :)
I really enjoyed this video and your take on the topic of "Homebrew" and "Pro Brew" :)
Thanks! I chose a MuddyVision title on purpose because you NAILED the product design.
@@HippoBytes Thanks, really appreciate the kind words.
Excellent video, and excellent topic! Up until now I had been using the term retro release for professionally made games like Circus Convoy. I'll switch to using your term probrew from here on out.
Hey thanks! ... Well, Audacity coined "Pro Brew"... I just say professional release and I think that includes Atari Age releases too. Homebrew is just an arbitrary term that was endearing to us until a new term was thrown in the mix.
Enjoyed the video! I think it’s great they are still making games for the Atari today! It’s not always about the graphics as it is gameplay! I enjoy purchasing home brews there just as good as the ones back in the day!
100% agree! Thanks!
I like "probrew". We coined that term on our podcast last year.
Can you link it?
How did you coin it when we coined in back in 2010?
@@zebunker Ah you did then! Good show. I stand corrected.
Very good point! Buying Homebrews or Probrews or whatever is about supporting the community! Nobody get rich today by making Atari 2600 games.
Another good point!
Probrew - love it :D
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Honestly back then half the games weren't licensed anyways. That wasn't really a thing until Nintendo so if it seems professional it is imo
agreed I think it was just silly semantics that everyone's gotten past now. ...well, that and now Atari is actually releasing a new 2600 game 😅
No. Still homebrews.
Yeah I think thats been the for sure chosen direction. But NOW ATARI is actually putting out new games ;) atarixp.com/