I live in Seattle Washington and I know an older lady by the name of Kathy who grew up in a psychiatric ward. She told me back in the 50's or 60's that they had done shock therapy on her about three times in her life, she has a lot of problems today because of it, she takes medicine, she's constantly in and out of the hospital due to her mental illness. People who don't know about her past laugh at her, call her names and think she's nuts but she's a real nice person. I saw a photo of her in her apartment when she was 17 and she was beyond gorgeous. When I saw that picture it actually shocked me to see what she looked like when she was younger. Now she's much older of course and she looks like she's had a rough life. Idk, I say all this to say just because someone acts differently doesn't mean they're not a nice person, we play cards together, go get coffee together and watch movies together on Friday's. We've been friends now for over 12 years and when people laugh at her or call her names, I step in immediately. No one deserves to be bullied, even if they're so called different, I honestly wonder how her life would have turned out if she had never received any of those shock treatments, very sad.
Yes, that also creeped me out to no end too. Cringeworthy! I'm not sure how successful such therapy was, nor if it continues practice in 2023. But yuck...
Its attachment therapy, was a fad for a while in the 70s and 80s (and the 90s too to an extent), though its always been controversial and literature is mixed on effectiveness, but generally considered more in the realm of pseudoscience today by mainstream psychiatry. Some probably still practice it, a version of it, though hardly as many as once did.
Exercise regularly dear one. Good for mood. I do interval walking and stairclimbing in the light rail train tunnels. Bi-polar atypical so have never been hospitalized. Still made a lot of mistakes in my life from impulsivity. God bless you every day.
Society is getting pretty hard to take, even for the toughest. We are mentally deteriorating as a society and "I'm" hanging on to Jesus quite personally ♥️
Listening to them talk and I thought to myself, they are so aware of their illness and honest about their feelings when speaking to the person interviewing them. One of them said their situation is like a slow death. I have PTSD and have dealt with some of those symptoms from time to time. I wonder if most us have felt like they feel. Are they that mentally ill or are they like most of us? I have met a lot of people like them living normal lives throughout my life. If people could be more understanding and caring maybe our mentally ill people wouldn't be so ill.
At 22:00 minutes when I saw her my heart skipped a beat. She looks exactly like my late mother, the only difference was my mother kept her hair cut short but Lord they could of been twin's. RIP mom.♥️
My 18 year old son has had really bad tourettes his whole life and medication has never helped him. He's been beaten up and attacked by strangers in the street who think he's shouting at them. I couldn't imagine him living in a home because of it, people think it's mental illness but it's actually a neurological syndrome which is different.
I too have tourettes since the age 13...I'm 46 years old now. Not sure if your son was given Fluoxitine/Prozac, it has helped me with my symptoms of tourettes for the longest time now. Best of luck to you and your son. It's not an easy road to go down. I was in tears after learning I have tourettes syndromes. My Mom gave me a choice to go back home, or back to school that same day....my choice was back home, due to my being so upset and in disbelief. Good luck, and God Bless you
You are a sensitive and caring interviewer As a therapist I believe that all therapies and treatments must have these qualities as a basis as we hypothesize and discover what works, individually, with each client
Bless all these people. They just want to live as normal lives as possible and be accepted for who they are. Sad news; my cousin who was recently diagnosed with Tourette’s, committed suicide. I had never seen any physical symptoms, but it’s obvious what was going on in his mind was horribly sad.
Thank you for sharing this, Jon. Such an interesting and unique piece with a good-hearted tone of trying to learn and understand more about these folks living through quite a lot. Great work creating it.
What I'm curious about is why does that word tend to come out with her tourette's more than any other word. She obviously heard it from someone in her lifetime that that word is embedded into her mind and that's what comes out.
@@freeskier175 Your comment is absurd, one I wasn't making a joke with my comment I was honestly curious but your comment comes off as racist and you know it.👎🏽
That ‘therapist’ my god how grossly inappropriate. I’m open minded but in this day and age she would be struck off for this. Much more going on here than a therapy session. She’s fully taking advantage of that poor young man’s demons.
58:20 It’s nice to see one of Pat’s sons visit him, Pat probably had a mental breakdown which led up to his marriage failing but he doesn’t remember the timelines of his breakdown - his son seems a good kid and nice that he took communion with his father.
I believe Central Manor became the Celeste of St. Paul Hotel and Bar. I'd like to know what became of its halfway house status. The hotel website lists convent and music conservatory in its history, but not the halfway house shown here.
Yup, it's an. upscale hotel now. The building that's right next to it (between it and the Fitzgerald Theater) is Central Towers, and it's senior assisted living, operated by Presbyterian Homes. I think they also run supportive living communities like this one in other locations around the suburbs -- but there isn't a group home like this in downtown St. Paul anymore that I know of.
I really hope that that odd "mom" therapist thing isn't a thing anymore. Even changing his surname to hers should have been a boundary that she put in place by saying no. Doesn't seem healthy.
This is what I enjoy watching as it's about illness and it shares people with their own personal life. Looking at just pictures is not interesting to me, so, with that said, thanks for sharing their stories on here.
We need to consider people with mental health issues. We need facilities like this. Where people are are given help with mental illness. People should be in facilities like this where they get care and compassion and love. These people want love and compassion. They want love, that's all that want. Love
This isn't run of the mill mental illness but hardcore brain chemistry, insanity. No amount of 'love & compassion' will help without appropriate medication & permanent mental health companion treatment, if that. Let's not lose reality, unfortunately, these conditions are mostly no win. Plenty of love & compassion yes, however, let's stay in the real world. Very sad.
I remember when "scream therapy" was the next best thing in dealing with certain mental health issues. Maybe they still use it in some places. Bro culture took it over so men would feel better about their small *****es.
That's one of the most common words for Tourette's sufferers to shout. A lot of Tourette's patients repeat words that are socially inappropriate (they don't consciously choose what words they tic on), though some have normal or funny words as tics. There's a woman with Tourette's who's a public speaker and educator, and her tic word is "muffin," and it ends up being sort of hilarious and adorable. "Muffin!"
40:00 I feel sorry for Nancy!!! She feels that getting a spanking makes her feel loved!!! I believe that's a form of abuse!! I think Nancy should get a hug or words of encouragement to make her feel loved!!! That's 10, no 100 no 1,000,000,000,000+ times better than getting spanked!! In my opinion!!
It was a temporary thing to help ease the transfer of long term mental patients from the huge state institutions that closed in the 70s, into the real world. It was cheaper to teach them how to live alone and take their meds than constantly staying in a hospital setting. This place was the in between.
@FrancesE.DekEsquire 0 seconds ago In 1969 I was a patient at Arkansas State Hospital, near Benton Arkansas. It was a very nice mental hospital, they were never had tied patients ever body was treated really nice. later i moved to sanfrancisco cal. and put into Atascadero state hospital. it were also very nive insane asylem i was treated very nice. My doctor was a holocaust survivor, i have seen his tattoo Auschwitz i am 74 years old and only mental illness now i have got is agoraphobia
Our Creator gave us personally loyal doding honest dignified special bad ass adults pal... To whom it may concern. Leave it tentative to delay false humans purposely intrusive gross games.
I live in Seattle Washington and I know an older lady by the name of Kathy who grew up in a psychiatric ward. She told me back in the 50's or 60's that they had done shock therapy on her about three times in her life, she has a lot of problems today because of it, she takes medicine, she's constantly in and out of the hospital due to her mental illness. People who don't know about her past laugh at her, call her names and think she's nuts but she's a real nice person. I saw a photo of her in her apartment when she was 17 and she was beyond gorgeous. When I saw that picture it actually shocked me to see what she looked like when she was younger. Now she's much older of course and she looks like she's had a rough life. Idk, I say all this to say just because someone acts differently doesn't mean they're not a nice person, we play cards together, go get coffee together and watch movies together on Friday's. We've been friends now for over 12 years and when people laugh at her or call her names, I step in immediately. No one deserves to be bullied, even if they're so called different, I honestly wonder how her life would have turned out if she had never received any of those shock treatments, very sad.
You're so right. Thank you for helping her keep her dignity, I'm sure you're a great comfort to her.
@@amandafeliciano542 Thanks, I hope so.
I applaud you!!?
You are a good friend and probably a great comfort to her and she, a good friend to you
@@bobsgirl100Thanks
Glad this little obscure piece of insight fell on my timeline.
That therapist that Aaron was seeing that treats him like a baby is a creepy woman. Very unsettling.
Absolutely and she would lose her license if she tried that creepy crap today.
Surprisingly enough if you look into the history, this was not an uncommon therapy technique back in the 70s and 80s!
Yes, that also creeped me out to no end too. Cringeworthy! I'm not sure how successful such therapy was, nor if it continues practice in 2023. But yuck...
Its attachment therapy, was a fad for a while in the 70s and 80s (and the 90s too to an extent), though its always been controversial and literature is mixed on effectiveness, but generally considered more in the realm of pseudoscience today by mainstream psychiatry. Some probably still practice it, a version of it, though hardly as many as once did.
Mental disorders are rough on every one. I am just now trying to deal with mine at the age of 69.
You can do it. Stay strong!
Sorry you’re suffering, Howard! I really hope you have some support and find some stable relief. ✨🙏🏽✨
Hang in there. You are worth it. ❤
Exercise regularly dear one. Good for mood. I do interval walking and stairclimbing in the light rail train tunnels. Bi-polar atypical so have never been hospitalized. Still made a lot of mistakes in my life from impulsivity. God bless you every day.
Society is getting pretty hard to take, even for the toughest.
We are mentally deteriorating as a society and "I'm" hanging on to Jesus quite personally ♥️
You're all wonderful! If any have passed, you now walk with The One who Loves you MOST! 🥰🙏🏽
Listening to them talk and I thought to myself, they are so aware of their illness and honest about their feelings when speaking to the person interviewing them. One of them said their situation is like a slow death. I have PTSD and have dealt with some of those symptoms from time to time. I wonder if most us have felt like they feel. Are they that mentally ill or are they like most of us? I have met a lot of people like them living normal lives throughout my life. If people could be more understanding and caring maybe our mentally ill people wouldn't be so ill.
That is a very profound statement. Yes it is a very dog eat dog world. We all need more honesty love and understanding.
Religiosity is a common theme with people who suffer from delusions. Thank you all and I wish you a peace and happiness.
At 22:00 minutes when I saw her my heart skipped a beat. She looks exactly like my late mother, the only difference was my mother kept her hair cut short but Lord they could of been twin's.
RIP mom.♥️
My 18 year old son has had really bad tourettes his whole life and medication has never helped him. He's been beaten up and attacked by strangers in the street who think he's shouting at them. I couldn't imagine him living in a home because of it, people think it's mental illness but it's actually a neurological syndrome which is different.
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I too have tourettes since the age 13...I'm 46 years old now.
Not sure if your son was given Fluoxitine/Prozac, it has helped me with my symptoms of tourettes for the longest time now.
Best of luck to you and your son.
It's not an easy road to go down.
I was in tears after learning I have tourettes syndromes.
My Mom gave me a choice to go back home, or back to school that same day....my choice was back home, due to my being so upset and in disbelief.
Good luck, and God Bless you
You are a sensitive and caring interviewer
As a therapist I believe that all therapies and treatments must have these qualities as a basis as we hypothesize and discover what works, individually, with each client
Bless all these people. They just want to live as normal lives as possible and be accepted for who they are. Sad news; my cousin who was recently diagnosed with Tourette’s, committed suicide. I had never seen any physical symptoms, but it’s obvious what was going on in his mind was horribly sad.
Thank you for sharing this, Jon. Such an interesting and unique piece with a good-hearted tone of trying to learn and understand more about these folks living through quite a lot. Great work creating it.
Glad Andy is there for his dad, sorry to hear about his basketball team.
Awww that lady Nancy has some incredible insight. That letter was everything
Its 2021...where are they now...thank you all for sharing!💗
I like nancy in this because I collect dolls and make them and I have as many dolls as she does :)
That lady psychiatrist holding and kissing that man seems VERY inappropriate! Like WTH? sooo creepy acting like his mother?
Yes eeww
My heart goes out to them all.
The woman kissing and giving that adult man a bottle is sick herself it's a total sexual thing for him
Agreed
In my experience, the therapist are often more fu*ked up than their patients. They’re just able to hide their mental illness better.
And her I would think.
I was extremely uncomfortable watching it. Nothing about it felt right. As a matter of fact, I bet it caused more harm.
@@donnapavina8803 His fetish shouldn’t be indulged
OMG that building is beautiful the lighting, windows and everything
I would dance with the tourettes lady. She needs a hug.
What I'm curious about is why does that word tend to come out with her tourette's more than any other word. She obviously heard it from someone in her lifetime that that word is embedded into her mind and that's what comes out.
@@unicornmadness6286She probably watched Sanford and Son or the All in the Family.
@@freeskier175 Your comment is absurd, one I wasn't making a joke with my comment I was honestly curious but your comment comes off as racist and you know it.👎🏽
This breaks my heart
That ‘therapist’ my god how grossly inappropriate. I’m open minded but in this day and age she would be struck off for this. Much more going on here than a therapy session. She’s fully taking advantage of that poor young man’s demons.
Surprisingly enough if you look into the history, this was not an uncommon therapy technique back in the 70s and 80s!
58:20 It’s nice to see one of Pat’s sons visit him, Pat probably had a mental breakdown which led up to his marriage failing but he doesn’t remember the timelines of his breakdown - his son seems a good kid and nice that he took communion with his father.
I believe Central Manor became the Celeste of St. Paul Hotel and Bar. I'd like to know what became of its halfway house status. The hotel website lists convent and music conservatory in its history, but not the halfway house shown here.
Yup, it's an. upscale hotel now. The building that's right next to it (between it and the Fitzgerald Theater) is Central Towers, and it's senior assisted living, operated by Presbyterian Homes. I think they also run supportive living communities like this one in other locations around the suburbs -- but there isn't a group home like this in downtown St. Paul anymore that I know of.
I was in a place like this 100 miles south in 1985. 38 yrs go by really fast.
I really hope that that odd "mom" therapist thing isn't a thing anymore. Even changing his surname to hers should have been a boundary that she put in place by saying no. Doesn't seem healthy.
Nancy is such a doll, and she likes dolls. What a cutie!
How is it, that this is so underrated???
This is what I enjoy watching as it's about illness and it shares people with their own personal life. Looking at just pictures is not interesting to me, so, with that said, thanks for sharing their stories on here.
We need to consider people with mental health issues. We need facilities like this. Where people are are given help with mental illness. People should be in facilities like this where they get care and compassion and love. These people want love and compassion. They want love, that's all that want. Love
This isn't run of the mill mental illness but hardcore brain chemistry, insanity. No amount of 'love & compassion' will help without appropriate medication & permanent mental health companion treatment, if that. Let's not lose reality, unfortunately, these conditions are mostly no win. Plenty of love & compassion yes, however, let's stay in the real world. Very sad.
That one lady reminds me of Margot Kidder with those giant glasses.
She had her own mh problems if I remember correctly. I think it became newsworthy when she was in superman
Now they are just homeless. All the money went to other things.
I loved listening to Janet.
Thank you.
Please share more like this kind
How can this be 38 years ago? But it is.
Absolutely amazing time shot this documentry, wonder what happened to everyone......good grief that reparenting thing, yikes
6:21-6:27 he sounds like Jim Morrison
Clearly the opening is a man suffering from cptsd from parental physical/ emotional abuse.
Hit me in the heart "out of sight out of mind, that is my life's story!" 😢
Howard Stern runs a half way house? Lol
Big money in that.
Guiltily, I thought the same thing.
I remember when "scream therapy" was the next best thing in dealing with certain mental health issues. Maybe they still use it in some places. Bro culture took it over so men would feel better about their small *****es.
Steve got style, just sayin.
So...the Frontline documentary basically just added voice-over to this film? Because it's the same footage!
Wasn't expecting the n word to come out of that lady's mouth 😮
Made ya jump?
28:00
Sad that she is forced to repeatedly yell the "N" word.
That's one of the most common words for Tourette's sufferers to shout. A lot of Tourette's patients repeat words that are socially inappropriate (they don't consciously choose what words they tic on), though some have normal or funny words as tics. There's a woman with Tourette's who's a public speaker and educator, and her tic word is "muffin," and it ends up being sort of hilarious and adorable. "Muffin!"
40:15...watch her lips move as he talks..they said that she had to read lips because she lost her hearing.
What a spooky building
It was originally a convent. Now it is a ritzy hotel.
I really like Nancy. I feel like i could have a good conversation with her. Shes very interesting.
40:00 I feel sorry for Nancy!!! She feels that getting a spanking makes her feel loved!!! I believe that's a form of abuse!! I think Nancy should get a hug or words of encouragement to make her feel loved!!! That's 10, no 100 no 1,000,000,000,000+ times better than getting spanked!! In my opinion!!
Trying to find this institute now but cant. What happened to it
It is now a residential facility that serves individuals living with dementia. Search on google for Central Manor saint paul
It was a temporary thing to help ease the transfer of long term mental patients from the huge state institutions that closed in the 70s, into the real world. It was cheaper to teach them how to live alone and take their meds than constantly staying in a hospital setting. This place was the in between.
Now they just leave them on the street or in jail, sad.
I couldn't find any info on it either. Only thing I could find is the building still exists and is now the Celeste of St Paul hotel.
That mommy therapy s*** is weird. Cradling an bottle feeding a grown man. Was this a legit therapist
I’d love to take Janet to the Nutcracker. I pray she’s doing well. ❤️✝️❤️
I would love to work in a psych. institution! I find mental illness intriguing!!!! I want to know what they hear!!!
@FrancesE.DekEsquire
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In 1969 I was a patient at Arkansas State Hospital, near Benton Arkansas. It was a very nice mental hospital, they were never had tied patients ever body was treated really nice. later i moved to sanfrancisco cal. and put into Atascadero state hospital. it were also very nive insane asylem i was treated very nice. My doctor was a holocaust survivor, i have seen his tattoo Auschwitz i am 74 years old and only mental illness now i have got is agoraphobia
Whatever happened to Janet?
This blatant medication thing....
Is still going on..
Now and again 😃 🙏 get genuinely special humans who can't be corrupted! Despite what's in us! Ha!
😆. At 39:00 the boyfriend's reaction made me crack up
Our Creator gave us personally loyal doding honest dignified special bad ass adults pal... To whom it may concern. Leave it tentative to delay false humans purposely intrusive gross games.
Darling, get back on ur meds...