Coming from a U.S. perspective...my god those roads are narrow! Looking forward to the GT+ coming out in 24 over here, the new dash and addition of ACC are huge for me.
I do like the look of the T9gt+. I have a 2022 T9gt & I love it! What I DON'T like is the God awful seat & the head slapping screen (if you're over 5ft 10in) I also hate Yamaha N America, they almost seem to be embarrassed by the Tracer line. There's NO acessories....none. every item I've added to my bike has had to be imported from Europe. There's also no T7/T9gt which is just stupid as it'd be a great way to get riders into the Tracer line up & broaden the apeal....I mean to say, it's the same logic as the MT07/MT09, why Yamaha N America took this decision, as well as the non existent support, just baffles me & probably delights the competition who are taking sales from Yamaha as a result.
Im now in the position to fund my 2 bike garage. After selling my 1250GSA, at 28 i didn't gel with it. So im either going down the route of.. 1. Tracer 9 GT+ 1290 Super Duke R/MT10 SP 2. 1290 Super Adventure S. MT10 SP / MT09 SP. 3. Or the have adventure/Sports tourer and naked covered. Tracer 9 GT+ 1090 Adventure MT10 SP. Be interested to hear your thoughts. Cheers.
I say the same thing about the T7 price. The MT07 is $7,500 usd. it’s the same engine with a diff frame….and zero electronics but is 3,000 more. The GT+ hopefully, isn’t that much more than the standard GT.
That's very interesting what you said about the "3rd generation" quick shifter - today I rode an '23 XSR900 which is equipped with an up/down quick shifter and I was unable to down-shift while the throttle was wound on. The thing is that I've been able to do this on other bikes... even my BMW R1250R! 🤷🏽♂ Is going down a gear or two whilst on the throttle supposed to be a new feature? Maybe I've missed some news!
Yes, believe the 3rd Gen quickshifter features on the first time on the Tracer 9 GT+. I personally havent seen it on a motorcycle before. Its quite a cool feature in my opinion, but like most tech, a nice to have but not crucial. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@@ontheroad8149 Yeah - bit of a screw up on my part then! Luckily I rarely do it anyway but I won't do it again until I have some of that 3rd gen quickshifter goodness!
I love my year old Tracer 9GT but it has corrosion issues after one winter despite using ACF50. The quality of the finish is unacceptable for a £13k bike. Yamaha have refused to replace parts, saying the use of road salt means they're not liable. Absolute rubbish, my 5 year old Triumph Street Triple was like new and treated the same way. Unacceptable. I'm highly unlikely to buy another Yamaha 🤬 If I was going to buy another one it wouldn't be the 9GT+, I think Yamaha have overpriced it.
@@Stanley88845 disagree on that topic. I know plenty of 1190 and 1290 owners who ride their bikes x10 harder than any fj-09 will ever see (off-road) and our bikes run good into high mileage without rust.
@@jonasbaine3538 it’s the salt on the roads in winter that really rusts bikes. Know someone that had a 1290 Super Duke, had it for about 6 months and it had endless issues and it just corroded to shit in the winter.
@@KnoxArmour when they arrive in the showrooms, you could always get Chris Moss to check it out? Re the MT10, crazily capable beast but I’m not a fan of the nakeds since I tried out a mate’s Speed Triple in Germany in ‘94-ish; we hit the autobahn and I tried following him (he was on my RF600) thinking I’d whip him (and my bike) but then started to realise my head was about to come off. Either that or the wind on my chest was going to gradually pull my arms out of their sockets. I’ll admit, I don’t get it.
@@predragkardashian3730 This is so true. BMW is not too expensive in this case. We might say that Yamaha put this one on a very high price tag. Just depends from our point of view.
Never rode the Versys 1000, but would love to. Kawasakis are not available for test rides in my country, which is such a shame. Can check my content, you may find it interesting.
Guess you'd need to back to back them to find out! Versys 1000 is certainly a bigger and more powerful bike, but I think the Tracer 9GT+ will suit people not wanting such a big machine but still get great performance. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
if theyed managed to fit a smart scotoiler utilising fuzzy logig, duty load and enviroment into the algorthum to optimise chain life, id have been temted to trade in my xj900s diversion
IMHO post 2018 yamaha bikes are like m$ windows, always buy after the SP2 and NEVER buy the gen1 , its almost always shit (unless its like the mt07* ( *genre shattering ))
These new bikes look stupidly out of proportion in relation to the front end and the rest of the bike (Including my Gen 2 S1000XR) On the yamahas it looks like they mounted a shrunken head on the nacel like a kill trophy... I think they all could do a better job with designing these front ends and in turn would come out with smaller screens that provide the same amount of protection as the sails that they mount on these things (my R1250GSA got the proportions right, I'm 6' and the stock GSA screen worked even in the lowest position.... just sayin)
I agree the windscreen on this bike is just ridiculous, if they made the screen in 2 parts where the lower part was body colored maybe it could hide a bit of its size.
Typical GS owner write up. My bikes better than yours.... 🥱 The difference is that the GS isn't fun. It's an old man's bike.. why the average rider age is 50+.
@lennykibbs260 No. I had one. Most boring, disconnected bike I've ever owned and ridden. Don't get me wrong, it was comfortable but 99.9% of GS owners don't use the bike for its intended use. Why the RS and R will always be the better road bikes. But your comment was comparing a GS to a yamaha. Completely different price gaps. Like I said. Sums up a GS rider. Stuck up his own arse and no other bike is better.
@@inked-96 I stand corrected.... The GS is not for everyone so yeah respect your opinion and sorry you didn't like it. I only compared front end proportions and nothing more- So not sure what you got bent from? and now you throw in a comment that 99% of GS riders don't use the bike for it's intended use?? Who gives a shit how people ride their bikes, people buy what they want to buy and ride or use it however they feel fit. Again this was just an opinion on my disappointment with Yamahas front end redesign regardless of the price gap because BMW surely fucked up on the new GS1300 front, alot of people do like it, but I can't stand it... anyway safe riding and don't let GS riders get to you its just a ride
just my experience with the Tracer9 GT bought it brand new traded my earlier Tracer 900 in for it had to wait for the colour choice I wanted 9months, then when I got it it had some kind of ecu fault Where you be going along nice,they suddenly no throttle responce nothing engine still running but no input from throttle. Yamaha dealer had it for months trying to find the problem! mean time I had no bike and I was my sole mode of transport, to which I explained to Yamaha Dealer but no way would they sort me out a loan bike. eventually got it back and two weeks after I picked it up it got Stolen FFS so never ever again Yamaha ! @@jinyao1986
Yamaha just don't make the best motors....they make the best motorcycles. Most reliable most value for money....and they always have X factor
Coming from a U.S. perspective...my god those roads are narrow! Looking forward to the GT+ coming out in 24 over here, the new dash and addition of ACC are huge for me.
Haha, yes, our roads are quite narrow and often don't have very good visibility. Aaron KNOX
I do like the look of the T9gt+. I have a 2022 T9gt & I love it! What I DON'T like is the God awful seat & the head slapping screen (if you're over 5ft 10in) I also hate Yamaha N America, they almost seem to be embarrassed by the Tracer line. There's NO acessories....none. every item I've added to my bike has had to be imported from Europe. There's also no T7/T9gt which is just stupid as it'd be a great way to get riders into the Tracer line up & broaden the apeal....I mean to say, it's the same logic as the MT07/MT09, why Yamaha N America took this decision, as well as the non existent support, just baffles me & probably delights the competition who are taking sales from Yamaha as a result.
Getting the down payment together to trade my Versys X 300 in and get one. Excited and hope everything goes well.
Mine fjr from 2002 is superb maybe in 20 years the tracer
Im now in the position to fund my 2 bike garage. After selling my 1250GSA, at 28 i didn't gel with it.
So im either going down the route of..
1.
Tracer 9 GT+
1290 Super Duke R/MT10 SP
2.
1290 Super Adventure S.
MT10 SP / MT09 SP.
3.
Or the have adventure/Sports tourer and naked covered.
Tracer 9 GT+
1090 Adventure
MT10 SP.
Be interested to hear your thoughts.
Cheers.
Amazing !
I say the same thing about the T7 price. The MT07 is $7,500 usd. it’s the same engine with a diff frame….and zero electronics but is 3,000 more.
The GT+ hopefully, isn’t that much more than the standard GT.
I've hoped Yamaha would bring the Tracer 700 into the US. But I'd probably not buy one anyway, so what am I talking about.
That's very interesting what you said about the "3rd generation" quick shifter - today I rode an '23 XSR900 which is equipped with an up/down quick shifter and I was unable to down-shift while the throttle was wound on. The thing is that I've been able to do this on other bikes... even my BMW R1250R! 🤷🏽♂ Is going down a gear or two whilst on the throttle supposed to be a new feature? Maybe I've missed some news!
Yes, believe the 3rd Gen quickshifter features on the first time on the Tracer 9 GT+. I personally havent seen it on a motorcycle before. Its quite a cool feature in my opinion, but like most tech, a nice to have but not crucial. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour Perhaps in this case I've been forcing bikes to downshift when they really rather I didn't 😂
Yamaha and Suzuki's quickshifters are by far the best in the industry.
@@RikkyTang you aren’t supposed to. Only downshift after letting go of the throttle
@@ontheroad8149 Yeah - bit of a screw up on my part then! Luckily I rarely do it anyway but I won't do it again until I have some of that 3rd gen quickshifter goodness!
are you sure there are 3 suspension modes? From what I know there are only 2 on the 9 GT.
Definitely 3 suspension modes, plus a custom one, so 4 in total I guess. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Curious about changing rider aids on this one. Any word? 😉
Yes, turn of SC (stability control) and all the nannies (TCS, SCS and LIF) go to sleep.
I love my year old Tracer 9GT but it has corrosion issues after one winter despite using ACF50. The quality of the finish is unacceptable for a £13k bike. Yamaha have refused to replace parts, saying the use of road salt means they're not liable. Absolute rubbish, my 5 year old Triumph Street Triple was like new and treated the same way. Unacceptable. I'm highly unlikely to buy another Yamaha 🤬 If I was going to buy another one it wouldn't be the 9GT+, I think Yamaha have overpriced it.
Most Yamaha’s are pretty bad for rust, especially all the 700 series frames.
used adventure bike is still a better quality buy and higher performance. -1190 adv
@@jonasbaine3538 won’t be as reliable though and ktm’s are also pretty bad for corrosion.
@@Stanley88845 disagree on that topic. I know plenty of 1190 and 1290 owners who ride their bikes x10 harder than any fj-09 will ever see (off-road) and our bikes run good into high mileage without rust.
@@jonasbaine3538 it’s the salt on the roads in winter that really rusts bikes. Know someone that had a 1290 Super Duke, had it for about 6 months and it had endless issues and it just corroded to shit in the winter.
The Tracer is priced accordingly with all the tech. What do you think the price should be?
Dud you ride the ‘23 Niken GT? Pleeeease say it’s so (and the review is coming soon) cheers!
Sorry no missed that one unfortunately. Had a bigger fish to fry in the MT-10 😉. Aaron Knox
@@KnoxArmour when they arrive in the showrooms, you could always get Chris Moss to check it out? Re the MT10, crazily capable beast but I’m not a fan of the nakeds since I tried out a mate’s Speed Triple in Germany in ‘94-ish; we hit the autobahn and I tried following him (he was on my RF600) thinking I’d whip him (and my bike) but then started to realise my head was about to come off. Either that or the wind on my chest was going to gradually pull my arms out of their sockets. I’ll admit, I don’t get it.
15k would steer me towards a nearly new beast of a bmw or ktm sports tourer. Its not enough bike for that amount of money.
I paid 11k for my tracer 900gt brand new. It’s a great bike, but I must admit I would not pay 15k for the latest one.
The price is high, you are right. Drop by when have time. You may like it.
New Bmw 1250 GS with all "essential" packages is 19 000 £ and thats not 15K...its 20 % more expencive....
@@predragkardashian3730 This is so true. BMW is not too expensive in this case. We might say that Yamaha put this one on a very high price tag. Just depends from our point of view.
@@predragkardashian3730 who said the gs? I ride the S1000XR 2018. 15k would get you a mint one. No 120 bhp bike is worth 15k.
Is it better than kawasaki versys 1000?
The motor is a lot better, it’s great fun.
Never rode the Versys 1000, but would love to. Kawasakis are not available for test rides in my country, which is such a shame. Can check my content, you may find it interesting.
Guess you'd need to back to back them to find out! Versys 1000 is certainly a bigger and more powerful bike, but I think the Tracer 9GT+ will suit people not wanting such a big machine but still get great performance. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour Powerwise they are similar. The difference is that the Versys is quite a lot heavier.
I'd say the Versys 1000 is like the sports-ADV version of the Ninja 1000SX. Or should I say the very watered down version of a BMW S1000XR?
if theyed managed to fit a smart scotoiler utilising fuzzy logig, duty load and enviroment into the algorthum to optimise chain life, id have been temted to trade in my xj900s diversion
Slap a windshield and a better seat on the XSR900. It's got cruise control.
Tour all day for $10200 USD
Its not a MT09, its a sport tourer
It only has 2 suspension modes sport and street rain is reduced power but street suspension, not 3 suspension settings
According to the Yamaha official, there are 3 suspension setting. Thanks
@@KnoxArmour look on the dash in custom settings you only have 1 or 2 for suspension more options for traction control etc
IMHO post 2018 yamaha bikes are like m$ windows, always buy after the SP2 and NEVER buy the gen1 , its almost always shit (unless its like the mt07* ( *genre shattering ))
I am interested in this bike. Is Tracer 9 GT+ the gen1?
These new bikes look stupidly out of proportion in relation to the front end and the rest of the bike (Including my Gen 2 S1000XR) On the yamahas it looks like they mounted a shrunken head on the nacel like a kill trophy... I think they all could do a better job with designing these front ends and in turn would come out with smaller screens that provide the same amount of protection as the sails that they mount on these things (my R1250GSA got the proportions right, I'm 6' and the stock GSA screen worked even in the lowest position.... just sayin)
I agree the windscreen on this bike is just ridiculous, if they made the screen in 2 parts where the lower part was body colored maybe it could hide a bit of its size.
Typical GS owner write up. My bikes better than yours.... 🥱
The difference is that the GS isn't fun. It's an old man's bike.. why the average rider age is 50+.
@@inked-96 And your answer is a typical rider who can't afford the GSA
@lennykibbs260 No. I had one. Most boring, disconnected bike I've ever owned and ridden. Don't get me wrong, it was comfortable but 99.9% of GS owners don't use the bike for its intended use. Why the RS and R will always be the better road bikes. But your comment was comparing a GS to a yamaha. Completely different price gaps. Like I said. Sums up a GS rider. Stuck up his own arse and no other bike is better.
@@inked-96 I stand corrected.... The GS is not for everyone so yeah respect your opinion and sorry you didn't like it. I only compared front end proportions and nothing more- So not sure what you got bent from? and now you throw in a comment that 99% of GS riders don't use the bike for it's intended use?? Who gives a shit how people ride their bikes, people buy what they want to buy and ride or use it however they feel fit. Again this was just an opinion on my disappointment with Yamahas front end redesign regardless of the price gap because BMW surely fucked up on the new GS1300 front, alot of people do like it, but I can't stand it... anyway safe riding and don't let GS riders get to you its just a ride
I never buy another yamaha
Why?
just my experience with the Tracer9 GT bought it brand new traded my earlier Tracer 900 in for it had to wait for the colour choice I wanted 9months, then when I got it it had some kind of ecu fault Where you be going along nice,they suddenly no throttle responce nothing engine still running but no input from throttle. Yamaha dealer had it for months trying to find the problem! mean time I had no bike and I was my sole mode of transport, to which I explained to Yamaha Dealer but no way would they sort me out a loan bike. eventually got it back and two weeks after I picked it up it got Stolen FFS so never ever again Yamaha !
@@jinyao1986