Dive to the bottom of Puget Sound in OceanGate's Cyclops 1 submersible
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Join GeekWire's science editor Alan Boyle as he journeys 100 meters to the bottom of Puget Sound aboard OceanGate's Cyclops 1 submarine. Catch a glimpse of the abundant sea life at these rarely seen depths.
If this guy had stuck to more shallow dives and found marine scientists and fishermen and tourists he could’ve done fine.
Trying to go to the Titanic was too much
@@RedUmbre The titanic was the holy Grail
Also was his doom
@@posticusmaximus1739 Scuba diving is a relatively new activity, and the equipment and techniques were not as sophisticated as they are today.
the number of scuba diving deaths in the early days of the sport was relatively high. As the sport became more popular and safety standards improved, the number of deaths has decreased significantly.
Exactly this was great for going certain depths especially deeper than divers, find marine life ect take scientist and other people would of been great, titanic is way too fast, too many cut corners.
"If we're sucking in water in here, we're in a bad state.."
That is such an eerie statement, and also when they are talking about the amount of pressure the vessel is subjected to at those depths. Terrifying.
Predict portal window as point of failure at crush depth. If so, it was instantaneous and painless. We'll see when and if it's found.
Ummm
The amount of pressure that can squeeze the human body into a pencil sized hole in less than a second
Thought the same thing.
@@doncarlo4576I can’t even picture that in my head. It’s just doesn’t make any sense
For the depth it operates at, Cyclops is a legitimate submersible that is Classed I believe.
From looking at his patent, it seems like the strain gauges he embedded in the various locations of the hull were meant to give real time warning of any dangerous hull deformation. The engineer he fired felt that the gauges would not give a warning in time to return to the surface. When the evidence is in, it’s likely that was an accurate assessment. Experts in the field felt that carbon fiber was just the wrong material to use for compression resistance. And they didn’t want his failure to destroy the safety record they worked so hard to earn.
I think Rush felt his combination of carbon fiber plus strain gauges was an innovation that the existing community wouldn’t accept, so he needed to prove his theory. To keep the business solvent he needed the tourist money.
It was a deadly combination.
I think the Greek notion of Tragedy includes a hero with a tragic flaw, often hubris, that brings unintentional consequences to an entire community. By that definition, Stockton Rush and his story certainly qualify.
Exactly
The Father & Son PerHaps Murder. The Orther 2 Are Experienced Titanic Explorers & Still Decided To Go On The Voyage.
@@ivytripperno. He was trying to bring change and innovation.
@@kinghades3356 People aren't supposed to pursue innovation by putting other people's lives at great risk, especially people that weren't aware of how big the risks actually were. It's one thing if he was putting just his own life at risk, but him taking passengers on such an unsafe/experimental sub is pretty much murder, or the very least, "manslaughter".
@@dopecat_truecrime if that were the case we would've never gotten this far.
It's your kind that gets left behind the dust doing menial jobs for the rest of your life.
You'll be forgotten and will cease to exist in anyone's memories.
This didn't age well
even milk ages better
This was a completely different sub
@@JMontP yea but still oceangate
Better that the Titan aged
Why what happend
Scary how it all seems so professional and this guy comes off really likeable/knowledgable all of which is contrary to what's circulating in the media
I say he's irresponsible because his submersible was poorly constructed.
@@BoeIs_HERE exactly the same as the shuttle Challenger was also poorly designed, right?
Su calamar de plastico, que era su brujula para saber la direccion de la corriente
@@MrGunzoller Except in case of a Challenger it was one minor flaw that is easy to overlook, where is with Titan the whole concept was very stupid, and there was a lot of red flags along the way (and a lot of people did say so at the time). Their hull was so damaged from the test dive that they had to replace it. And it was a test dive, with ideal conditions. Yet, after that he said "Looks good, let's go". At the very least you should go back to the drawing board and do more test, or abandon the concept entirely.
@@MrGunzoller Was it? I didn't follow that story; was pretty young.
The Cyclops is still intact and has always worked well. it is made of steel with two transparent domes, one very large. It can dive up to a maximum of 500 meters and is certified.
To bad the other wasnt😮
Cause cyclops 1 was basically created by another company. Rush modified it.
Now to just get certified on 4000m
They tried, but you can not certifie carbon fiber, there was no procedure to o that, it would be to costly. But they took cyclops 2 version/hull 2 in a pressure chamber and it did well. Little cracks in carbon fiber over time, and it gets very dangerous. Acoustic sensors do not warn early enough, it's already to late at this point.
The Cyclops 1 is a very quiet, maneuverable, and spacious vehicle. It seems an excellent shallow water submersible. Perhaps this man could one day make a deep water submersible after studying how to make deep water submersibles.
He's gone...
@@justswitched8841 Exactly.
Um....where have you been? lol.
💀
Where can I sign up for one of this guy's tours? He seems like safety is his first priority.
Ha..ha…ha
Looks like fun, but...anyone else notice the CEO is wearing patches bearing the names of two famous sunken ships--Titanic and Andrea Doria??
Because he has visited them in subs maybe?
This comment aged well
You guessed it before..
Yep sure did
Yeek. Would much prefer having had a premonition about, say, today's winning lottery numbers...😳
Subs are great
Just have a low survival rate if the hull or valves are damaged, fouled, or defective
😬
This comment aged well
😳
He should’ve given you a job
@@avus-kw2f213he's lucky he didn't lol
you are lucky you made it out alive, getting into oceangate subs is like playing roulette
C'mon, live a little!
Spin the Big Wheel!
@@seeharvester Wise people will spin the wheel when there is a more than even chance of them winning and walking away with a cash-prize or soft toy.
But for every ONE who wins a large cash prize there will be thousands who come away with their pockets empty.
This guy gambled with his life and due to his own lack of perception he ended up owing the house and the house was quick to collect.
He also shared that debt with four others who paid approximately £200,000 each for the privilage of being turned into pate.
@@RichBuddy at that time the wright brothers did every safety protocol that was available , and honestly safety field lacked those days pretty much non existent , but today with advancement in safety procedures such as sonar, comms, and structural safety such as making the submersible sphere, making the hull out of titanium, the titan was not implementing those, this was NOT an invention , James Cameron has a sub that dived 36000ft below while following all the safety protocols made for marine world.
@@lonemountain3049 Oh please it is an experimental craft. Waivers are signed.
@@RichBuddy pushing limits for the sake of discovery and research is not the same as being careless and dismissing safety concerns, wtf
You dont want to use wireless in critical components...This sub was death trap from beggining...
Devil’s advocate- maybe there was some backup interface besides the Xbox controller. I keep imagining they must have had a terminal of some sort.
If it really was the only possible interface, that’s truly insane
@@sisofphil fact that there is no comunication between ship and sub except signals every 15 minutes is insane and almost darwinist...Not to mention some type of byonant locator that go to surface in case of SOS
@@bobanppvcDarwin awards got handed out that’s for sure. This company won the top prize.
It's like using a wireless Deadman switch.
There were 2 other back up controllers if one broke.
Rush was a daredevil and he proved how far he could push the depth limits and number times using the carbon fiber hull. Unfortunately he killed 4 other people in doing so. Engineers warned him of the mistakes that cost him his life
As a kid I thought they scrap the submarine and destroy it after every divep
@@Chronically_JBoo Well for sure OceanGate is scrap after the demolition of destruction.
@vibratingstring You know what you're absolutely correct because the true engineers had already warned him
@vibratingstring Engineers knew how to make rockets & space shuttle until Elon Musk came along, It takes a true pioneer to completely overhaul and change how things are done,
Unfortunately in this case safety wasn’t a big priority and did not do the proper testing.
Carbon fiber is not designed to deep depth not to mention Expired Carbon Fiber. MR CRUSH was simply after money
Stockton Rush "We're not subjecting our bodies to any pressure."
Not yet anyway.
Facts
He went out a brave old lad
@@user-vi3eg9cm1e
Brave? No.
Stupid? Yes.
Old? Not anymore.
Everything went smoothly until it didn’t.
He reportedly fired the "old white guy" engineers in favor of recent graduates because the youngsters are inspiring. Those old white guys possess decades of knowledge beyond a 4 yr degree, especially in risk assessment.
The youngsters are just indoctrinated idiots.
Yep, bet that’s playing over and over in his head right now, if he’s still breathing
That's why he fired him- wanted to go full speed ahead- didn't want to deal with reality
Spot on
@@leebay6093unfortunately it looks like he never got the chance to reflect upon his choices
They should have just left it at that, Pugent Sound. 300 feet. R.I.P
I was thinking the same, probably alot safer as it was rated for that kind of depth but Stockton pushed it way too far and.. Well we know what happened.
Yeah, was thinking the same...Probably could of actually made money, by charging less of course.
By all accounts Cyclops 1 has functioned as intended despite stupid design choices like the controller. Seems like if Oceangate stuck to 500m or less (and stayed with the steel hull design) they would've been fine. The Titan had no business diving 4000m. Stockton was a victim of his own ego.
as funny as it is to use a video game controller in theory the fact is you need something to control it. Rush did prove to be incompetent but lets not discredit Sony or Microsoft. The military uses their controls so what better controller to use than something that is tried and true. Just dont throw it at the wall when you are "losing". Their controllers are very reliable. Like people want to bring up what if it loses connection. When is the last time you played Xbox or PS5 and your controller lost connection lol
@umbreonpokemon8190 game controls are used by the military to operate ROVs, not manned submersibles. It being wireless is just dumb because it's an unnecessary risk for nothing other than aesthetics. And again if these were the kind of choices they wanted to make they should've stuck to more shallow depths where they had more room for error.
@@umbreonpokemon8190military doesn’t use controllers for manned vessels, imagine you are steering the vessel and connections drops or lags before you can brake in time and you collide, this risk should be 0%. wireless has no role in critical applications
People keep going on about this game controller, but if I was given a choice between a custom made controller and a game-controller I would choose the game controller every time. Why? The game controller would have had MILLIONS of hours of validation and bug fixes. You make your own custom one and you would most likely have 0.0001% of the testing and validation and verification of a game controller and would most likely have bugs in it. That was actually a smart and innovate choice and in engineering we have been doing things like this for years, choosing validation and reliability life over custom design. The fatal problem is he did not use the same mentality for the hull, which had almost NO validation or reliability data, the MOST important part.....
@@sixbells99 Yes, let someone else do the R&D but the problem is they weren't doing the R&D for this application. They were doing it for cheeto eating children. The R&D is there... at least some of it... but it's not "done" for this application in any way.
A “submarine” without a propeller that operates by a controller from PlayStation- what can possibly go wrong?
not even a good playstation one a cheap wireless F710 logitech not even good to play game
This one was a ps3 or ps2 controller. The titanik was a cheap logitec
The fucking PS 3 controller , this Is maybe yesterday was Lucky and Continue next step but now your playing Is not good so take the GAME OVER for your Playstation Controller
it takes more IQ to realize that mass produced devices are mass tested and in fact more reliable than custom built electronics.
It had 4 thrusters
Stockton Rush. Perfect name for a person who likes to rush things and cares more about making money.
The irony isn't lost on me that he named the company Oceangate.
Stockton Crush
Stockton has got hammered so hard in the press and rightly so, but here in this video I cant help seeing him as just a human and sad that he lost his life, sad his wife is a widow and the 4 other people who died husbands, fathers and sons of someone. Stockton was a chancer, he took all the criticism as validation he was doing something new ,instead of doing something WRONG. If he was right the ability to make light weight low cost deep submersibles good have been a game changer in exploring the depths. Instead he had probably sent back deep sea exploring decades.
From Oceangate to Oceandeath" Stockton not really kidding to provide his passengers with a real Titanic experience. "RIP"
they should test this unsafe submersible at least 1000 times, before departure to such extremely deep and massive water in the ocean.
they did it 50 times. it failed at 51...
in ocean and space exploration you can't and you don't do this. nobody asked challenger being tested 1000 times before it blew up, and i bet if you were offred a trip to space for 250K you'd be tempted, even if it's been tested only a dozen of times.
@@kennythemeat they said there were problems with every dive they had ever done
If you consider exhaustion of materials, you don't want the vessel to dive 1000 times, before you board it.
@@kennythemeat the thing literally got lost on the last trip supposedly... now look what happens
Everybody gangsta until you hear a roaring from the middle of the ocean
They ain’t gangsta no more
Some of the previous comments before this even happened are so eerie . It was in fact a roar in the middle of the ocean ..
Scary that its probably exactly what happened...
This is crazy everything seems so safe here and Stockton looked confident in his creation, they should've continued using the Dualshock 3 Controller and not that cheap Logitech third-party Joypad.
Lol
I feel like the problem is not that logitech products are bad and more about the fact that the submarine was crap and wasn't even designed to handle the pressure. I have a logitech G920 wheel for sim racing and it's pretty much the highest rated industry standard for gaming wheels.
I see, fellow sim racer.
Maybe it was safe In 300 feets not 12000 feets. The pressure and weight of water that deep is thousands times more. Maybe touristic trips to some lakes would have been acceptable with this same as cayak material sub.
That one here is a a PS controller and after spending thousands of hours playing with my PS4. I can assure is proven technology.
Oh man if only we had found this video sooner
No human being needs to go that deep for the humanity to learn something. We have cameras.
Exactly
It’s a cool experience, coming from someone who dived an oceanic trench. We aren’t stopping everything because you think it’s all “dangerous”
Creeped me out that they were using a ps3 Bluetooth controller and not something wired when I saw this a while back. Spare controller and wires on board as well? Hope they get found alive.
According to an interview with Stockton Rush a couple of years ago, they carry 2 spare controllers, "just in case"
Outdated controller at that .
@@michaelhamilton6553😱
Regularly used by the military nothing new
Mr Rush doesn’t sound like an idiot in this video. I feel he is very good or outstanding in the area of ocean life exploring. He is not good at extreme depth submersible obviously and the tragedy is that he didn’t believe that is out of his depth. We all need to know our depth and boundary. Otherwise we would be reduced from hero to zero.
A lot of idiots don’t sound it. People often conflate how someone is saying with what that person is saying. If someone “sounds” intelligent he is assumed to be intelligent and vice versa. Nothing could be further from the truth. Stockton was arrogant, stubborn and ignorant and he paid the price for it.
Or maybe, just maybe he was an incompetent person who was confidently wrong about many things... and was a good salesman.
I'll tell you something else, his company's name sounds similar to WaterGate, and his submersible was named after a disaster caused by hubris. But he sure was likable!
He wanted to be the Elon Musk of the ocean sooooooooooooo bad.
I strongly believe he wasn't an idiot, he knew what he was doing, but yeah, it takes one mistake or negligence for the world to transform you as an extremely evil person on the planet, especially the media. Since the accident happened, suddenly everyone became an engineer online criticizing everything based on what the media want them to hear.
C'mon! Name one time he did a bad job diving at deep depths? You can't!
your the best captain on this planet im not even squiding
@@PelonMusk😂😂😂
This aged like fine milk
There's zero footage of the recent 5 getting into the sub not one video which is strange.
Probably because the thing imploded….
Rush seemed more like a bank manager who'd trick you into opening another credit card than a serious engineer and deep diver.
This was the Cyclops 1 which seemed like a much safer design that wasn't expected to go as deep, right?
Yep
300ft not that deep
@@adb8003bruh its 500 you just think oceangate is bad beacuse of th titan the thing was that the titan was made of carbon fiber
@@DjursholmCars Oceangate was extremely negligent but how about you speak English and try that sentence again?
*SUBNAUTICA music intensifies*
Dude tought he could MacGyver his way into deep ocean and convinced billionaires to go with him.
Now they're crushed into red mist, maybe some bone splinters.
At least it was a quick death.
RIP.
The PlayStation 3 controller was apparently his go to
2:23 😢 "trying to keep it from crashing"
Well...he certainly increased awareness
R.I.P OceanGate Titan / Cyclops. Hope they would have got certification for this one of a kind off the shelf assembly if fibreglass submersible that eventually took 5 lives echoing the fate of Titanic. It’s an another milestone for deep ocean exploration.
The journalist Arnie wiessmann exposed the OceanGate
It’s true as per Arnie wiessman
Stockton Rush who perished with 4 other souls bought expired fibreglass grom Boeing to make the gill of the Titan. This is a shocking to know.
This is not the same sub.
This is a different sub altogether. As for Titan, He would never be able to get certification for that craft because carbon fiber composite is not acceptable for those depths. Another barrier to certification was the cylindrical pressure chamber.. the industry standard is spherical. Even the large oblong submersible James cameron designed for the Marianna trench only had a small spherical compartment where the human being would be, the rest of the vehicle is not as important as the chamber. We're people would be
2 years ago comments were like " This looks like fun" and today commenters are critical experts lol.
6:14 ah hell no, those noises would have me freaked out.
It was great that he had such a vision but man at what cost ? I saw that video of an actual tour to the titanic. The images were so good and clear. Could’ve been a real great thing but ..
I feel quite sad for everyone, including Rush, I get his idea and energy, but I wish he had some authority to tell him how dangerous his project was.
he did but he ignored all the experts who told him that people would die.
You feel sad for a billionaire who wouldn't give two shits about you lol
He was told. In fact he sacked the guy who told him
No one gives af bout him, I tbh feel bad for those other two passengers who was 19 year old Suleman Dawood and his 48 year old father Shahzada Dawood 🫥💀
see the other conference with rush, he says at ocean gate we take safety seriously over profit and we don't risk lives if only that was true.
This is a different sub than the one that imploded people! The one that imploded was called Titan, this one is Cyclops 1. They purchased Cyclops 1 from another company.
That’s another one which I forgot the name of. Cyclops 1 was the first submarine built by ocean gate
I read it was the same one - just renamed after bigger problems - that has implode.
That's why it has so much more stuff on the inside of it
Roman...They didn't build it.
@@someguy9778 I don’t know much about these subs
OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush once said the glue holding the ill-fated Titan submersible's carbon-fiber hull together was "like peanut butter," calling it thicker than Elmer's glue and "pretty simple."
In a 2018 video on OceanGate's UA-cam channel, Rush oversaw the bonding of the Titanic-bound sub's titanium ring and carbon-fiber hull.
He said the glue affixing the titanium ring to the hull was "very thick, so it's not like Elmer's glue." He added: "It's like peanut butter."
Earlier in the video, Rush said the design was "pretty simple, but if we mess it up, there's not a lot of room for recovery." - Chris Panella (Insider)
0:01 look at that smile bro😂😂😂
I know he did not just say this gives people from all walks of life the opportunity to experience it... At $200,000 a seat? I'm pretty sure most walks aren't going there.😂
this is a different vessel
For submersibles like this, they were planning to do tours (of areas like Puget Sound - NOT the titanic) for $1-2k
@@AndrewMacGillivraythey won’t bring doing anymore tours after they go bankrupt now.
He's no John Hammond.
Aside from the fact that it was a different vessel, he was talking about it from the perspective of a scientist who got to ride for free.
stockon seemed like a really passionate guy
Yeah. He really loved making money.
@@SsgtHolland he wouldnt go down himself if he only cared about the money. im not saying that his ego didnt kill them, thats literally the reason they died but still. Every inovation through out history was made because of the individuals like him.
@@SsgtHolland He and OceanGate were LOSING money, don't believe the nonsense other people post on yt. it was passion and lack of funding, not greed that contributed to the loss of the Titan and all on board.
@@methylene5 No, he was building a business. To make money. Every startup loses money. But most startups don't put paying customers in their untested prototype. That is not passion. It is hubris and greed.
@@SsgtHolland "Hubris and greed", oh where oh where have I heard that before. Do you have any original thoughts of your own, or are you just going to plagiarise the current trendy internet group think?
“We’re not subjecting ourselves to any pressure here”. That didn’t age well.
"We're not subjecting our bodies"
Well, at least the cyclopse didn't fail. It was the "Titan" which turned out to be a smurf only.
Its a good time to watch again TheAbyss.
Even if this guy gets found alive in the sub his company is finished
Nah he knew the risks, he will probably be like I redeveloped it and I’m going down again to show you it’s safer than the last version
@@sleazyeezy9452well if he knew the risks of an unaccredited craft then he's a fool. No chance he will be back I'd bet my house on it
He's long gone!
Yeeeah they're never coming back.
@@ciararespect4296 Seems like your house is safe...
It’s entirely possible to be a genius and an idiot at the same time. Rush was a perfect example.
A genius? I don't think so.
@@Smannellitesthe guy was extremely smart, no doubt about it. But you can’t outsmart your own pride
@@albatrossflyer gluing titanium to carbon fiber then going down 3800 meters is what I would call smart. Using glass that rated for 4000 ft but repeatedly took it to 3 times what it's rated isn't what I call smart. I could go on n on.
The best word you can use to describe Rush is "buffoon."
@@roybatty- No, far better is narcissist.
This Cyclops 1 submersible has a rated max depth to 1,645 ft.
*had
@@FFEMTB08nope, this is not the sub that imploded. This sub is still standing. Though still very janky.
@@fcass7 ahhh thank you!
@@fcass7Nope yourself ya mook😒
@@fcass7 thank god this isn't the one that imploded because that pilot is too hot
Interestingly, this one looks much more like a real sub from inside. The "other one" was more like a living room with a TV and a PlayStation.
that's how the news works, you see it how they want you to see it.
@@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur no. it's actually a secret sub lobby, determining how subs should look like.
I believe this is the sub (precursor to titan) that they actually got help from UW and NASA on.
@@AVERYhornyMrDinosaurthe news is nothing if not a bunch of lair scum, but at the end of the day the photos of this sub and the titan are not fakable by the media. It is what it is.
@@gazmodiusyes
Crazy to think that implosion crushed all 5 bodies into one. 😮💨
into gel
The titan did this is the cyclops
@@gogetabag6216it was renamed
@@anthonygumbo2977this is Cyclops 1, Cyclops 2 was renamed to titan.
Puree
Once again, this proves that charisma and hubris is no substitute for competent engineering.
The most horrifying part about the sub, is that it’s not rated to withstand the pressure at 3800 meters down, yet they did it anyway… it was literally bound to go wrong.
This is a different sub model..
@@michaelroberts8397literally doesn’t change what he said
That was not their first time going down there in that sub, I think they got way too confident with their successful expeditions smh
well when u receive 1 million dollar for every submersion from 4 passengers greedy beat ocean laws.
@@aeshaalberts7560they got lucky, it wasn’t safe for the first expedition and every subsequent one tore it up until this happened.
Oceangate seems too confident in their little pillbox, game controller combination! And the CEO is misleading. This is not a submarine, but a submersible. And it seems difficult to drive. Handing the controls to a guest seems to be a dangerous thing this company does. RIP to the CEO and his passengers. There should be absolutely NO TOURISM at the Titanic gravesite, ever.
He was unable to put his pride aside when many experts in the field were clearly concerned about his simplistic designs.
Bruh shut up. Those bones are long gone.
It's a shit tin death trap.
Ok "Amy," are you gonna be ok? Glad to know there are still MEN out there with giant balls to risk everything for exploration. But what would you know about that? Keep to your kitchen and let men do the stuff that matters.
And those MEN with giant balls are now dead floating somewhere in the ocean while Amy is alive in her kitchen.
Score: Kitchen 1 and dead MEN with giant balls 0
Amazing. How did you get in touch with these guys?
nice seeing your here leif
sup leif
Don’t be in touch with them please.
The Navy and a whole lot of people in the middle of the ocean are trying to get in touch with him now.
This aged bad
He said he wanted to be known for taking risks... got his wish.
Be careful what you wish for....
For many men ,marriage is there greatest risk😅.
That does look incredible.
4:42 until the whole thing implodes
He towed the Titan on that platform for 400 miles of open ocean and those rich people still got it in.
The toupee - all mixed-up with the shredded carbon fibre hull. Maybe it's not lost for ever.
most of the rich already went on the Mir submersibles, or on Limiting Factor or were able to buy their own craft from Triton Submarines. most of the ones who either didn't do their homework or didn't have the 15-30 mill bailed when they saw the Titan
All a sudden everyone in the comment is now an expert in titan and implosion lmao
Cuz it’s trendy
Anybody whining about the gaming controller. That's the one thing that's well tested by millions of people. It has been improved for generations of consoles.
The game controller was more emblematic of the general ostentatious shoddiness, than an issue in itself.
You can hear the hull banging as they're a sending
Greetings from Earth. Nice work there Stockton!
This rush guy actually doesn’t seem half bad
Yeah he seems totally sane and not at all a risktaker. I'm sure that he'll be fine.
Yea, hell have a great career !
This “vessel” is a hyperbaric chamber modified in order to be used as submersible?
Im a cynical old duffer but I can't help thinking something strange is going on here. It wouldn't surprise me if they went down a little bit, disappeared, then returned to the surface rendesvous with a yacht, drop the sub, and are now taking the enormous life insurance plans they all must have had. Who would ever know really?
i was thinking that at first but stockton couldn't handle keeping quiet while his name being dragged so thoroughly through the mud....hes being rightfully made an example of by the very people he went to great lengths to defy.
maybe my man should've stuck with the shallow water cyclops after all? 😐
This sub 'only' went down 300ft, so think about 3 basketball courts deep. Still way too deep for my taste.
this is basically a scuba sub so it make sense this one held up; the great barrier reef is only about 200 ft deep
the titanic is 12500 ft deep
@@madhatten00 it was made of steel also :)
He took the cheaper crappier uncertified submersible to the great depths of the Titanic.
that was built by his own hands rather than Cyclops which the majority came from another craft built by actual submersible builders
*I’m going to go against the grain by being human here* 😮 and besides all the things that happened after.. I can only say wow the things that you were able to see and experience were one of a kind. This depth is already deep enough to see crazy things. The ceo was an adventurer no doubt.. nobody was forced to take a ride. Even with a perfectly well steel hull vehicle this type of voyages will always contain risk. I am just in awe of the imagery and I for one can have a sense of respect and maybe even a moment of silence when I watch these footages here online instead of making snarky remarks. Most people haven’t punched the envelope in life on anything and exactly these types that haven’t done anything are the ones that suddenly are experts and have so little general respect or morals to know when to shut up.
Telling people to not be reckless is not a lack of respect or morals. I would argue that letting other people pay to enter their own casket that you slapped together against good advice is immoral or disrespectful of human life, but thats just me. Maybe you find that a good and honorable thing, you do you.
According the evidence we have, he:
- Repeatedly refused to listen to experts telling his design it was unsafe, and fired them or threatened them with litigation
- Deliberately skirted any safety regulations that were in the way of his business plan
- In doing so, created a vessel that led to the first fatalities in more than 60 years of civilian deep sea exploration, even though it didn't go anywhere near the depths that other submersibles have reached.
Now, he clearly believed in what he was doing, otherwise he wouldn't have been willing to steer the sub himself. He wasn't evil - however, it looks as if he very much overestimated his own competence, refused to listen to people who knew better, and ended up killing himself and others because of that.
That's tragic - and it's definitely a cautionary tale for anyone thinking about pushing the envelope in anything. I don't think it's immoral to point that out. On the contrary, I think it would be immoral to paint him as some kind of fearless explorer who went down paths that no-one else dared to go, because that's not what he did.
He went down paths that others had told him would be deadly, because he thought he knew better. They were right. He was wrong.
Glad it's not just me.
@bitesizefirst thanks for being human, bold and courageous. There are too many negative out here that cannot see any good, any compassion. It’s an expensive hobby $$ can deplete a business quickly. He had big future aspirations, to bring this undersea footage in real time to classrooms for educational purposes! The man was of a brilliant mind, terrific ideas. A pity his ambitions are now lost to the world.
@@maryannsinopoli1751 Courageous were the whistleblowers that tried to warn others about that narcissistic maniac. Just because others give you shit about some novel idea that you have, you are not automatically some kind of misunderstood genius, sometimes you are just wrong. He was wrong, as reality proved, and in the end innocent people died because of him having a hard time admitting that he was wrong. But please continue to celebrate him, hope you guys have an annual meeting where you test drive your own subs that ignore all established rules in the field. The average IQ on the planet will rise.
if he didnt take four innocent souls with him, he would have been remembered as an eccentric man trying to create new technology, which is admirable. but he is now forever deemed negligent, and almost a cause of manslaughter
Almost?
Hey guys I’m starting a oceangate crash submersible tour , tickets are only 250k and I’ll drop you in the ocean in a Pringle’s can.
What an implosive story.
Thats the comment of the day. Well done
10000 lbs of pressure on the entire hull at only 80m of depth... oof.
~115 psig at 80 m (varies with things like temperature and salinity)
how much pressure will be at 1000 metres depth?
@@agradina 15 million pounds total on the hull at full titanic depth
@@juggernaut316 imposible too much
@@agradina At 1000 m seawater you're looking at 100 bar, 100 MPa, 98.7 atm, 1450 psi, or 75006 mmHg. All are relative to the surface, but the submersible probably has >=1 atm on the interior during the dive.
Pure guy I like his work and I like to go underwater
Submariner: "I'm wrapping myself in 5 inches of Titanium for the hull, no less."
Stockton: "I'm innovative, I'll wrap myself in 5 inches of woven fabric held together with epoxy resin for the hull."
Chris Hansen enters to survey the implosion and leers at Stockton..."You see how this looks?..."
what
UA-camr: Just wrap yourself in 5" of titanium for the hull, no less. Some bloke in a submarine said it, so must be true.
Engineer: 5" of titanium will crack with a cylindrical hull design, and won't be buoyant, and you'll need external specialised deep sea ballast systems, will cost you about $100 million and you'll still likely die.
@methylene5 the Russians have an all titanium sub called the balgrog. Huge sub. Double hull.
Not subjecting your body to any pressure.. until it implodes. 😳
And then your body implodes. It's like an implosion party.
That lady must be the luckiest person alive.
This isn’t the same submarine
Yhea it was made for going to places like this! Not going down to the titanic! The fact that carbon fiber was used is why it imploded at the depth it was going. Even with Indy car chassis made out of carbon fiber after so many hours of use it has to be taken out of service and can't be raced anymore.
I think that your right about this. It was sound when new but after 15 dives to the titanic...I figure stress fractures and the tentile strength was weakened.
“We’re gonna lower the platform about 20 feet, go do the dive, then in about 3 years we’re gonna go down to the Titanic and crush ourselves in instant death it’ll be a good time”
It seems this Cyclops wasn't going as low as the titan.
I'm just finding this now. The algorithm is truly incredible.
1:09 eerie
"When I started the business one of the things you'll find is there are other sub operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners and you'll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys. I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and [an old white guy is] not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology. We can train someone to pilot the sub. We use a [video-game] controller."
- Stockton Rush
And those are the people they needed desperately before Sunday. Stupid stupid stupid.
Personally, I feel comfortable when I see the pilot of my airplane is an ex military 50 year old white guy. But that's just me.
I'm glad he is dead... now he cannot kill any more people with his ignoring of engineering and safety. 400 feet down in Puget Sound is easy... 14,000 feet is just plain stupid in a contraption made by children. OceanGate is guilty of negligent homicide.
I'm 16 years old and old expert guys inspires me.
Stockton Rush was an over 50 yr old white guy. So he's basically saying he can't do the job either? Huh?!?!?
Stockton was just stupid. He risked people's lives at the whim of an idea. It's easy to say this will work. This is innovation. This is something new. But when you have EXPERTS telling you the complete opposite multiple times. It's not to crush your ego. It's not to make you feel crazy. It's for your safety. And you played yourself with your safety then put others in the danger zone. Now that is not acceptable.
We have stain gauges on aircraft, they still required me to NDI them, but pilots being so so smart alway knew better. Anyone thats inspected carbon fiber could have told him this was going to happen. The kid driving the sub sounds great until something goes wrong
Yeah this is some rich guys science fair project.
Rush is an "a quick answer, always right Know-it-all."
Cyclops is better then titan.
5:21 poor dude in the red flannel is nervous af lol. Imagine being down way farther than that....oof.
Yo watch out around the merk I heard thats where reaper lives
Haha
This comment tho…😬
Did you just tell the future 😭
@@Themythicrat777 I didn't even think about that💀💀
@@Themythicrat777he means the reaper leviathan from subnautica
All of Oceangate's subs should have been more appropriately named Chumbucket 1, Chumbucket 2 etc.
the fact that a playstation controller is used to control this thing is immediately terrifying to me :/
Are they sure if that submersible is safe for 80m depth?
105 meters
Mr Rush died a Pioneer, at least now we know not to use Carbon Fiber diving at 4000 meters below. Brave of him to drive that sub himself.
We already knew that