You'll love the results from the 56mm f1.4 if you do decide to take the plunge. The 112m field of view might sound a bit tight but this lens is a great focal length for event photography in low light. Its f1.4 gives the equivalent f2.8 so its not too shallow a depth of field for shooting people during events but it lets you up those shutter speeds/ lower ISO which you need shooting M43 during events 👍
100% agree! The Sigma 56mm f1.4 is hands down, the best lens for sharpness and the character, of all the lenses I had over the years. So good. You really need to check this lens out. It is an absolute gem.
I have the 30mm and the 56mm, they are both normally glued to my G9 and GX9. 30mm is a little softer at 1.4 but the 56mm is razor sharp at 1.4, sharper in fact than the Panasonic Leica 42.5 1.2.
I second that vote for the 56mm...primarily used it as a portrait lens on the G9...tried it for indoor sports on the Mk II...wow...clear, sharp and super fast focus on G9 Mk II...would really like to see Sigma bring out zoom telephoto
There’s one heck of a difference in the field of view of 20mm and your 30mm lens. The 30mm has a 60mm full frame equivalent which is almost a ‘portrait’ lens. A 20mm is nicely between a 35 and 50mm full frame at 49mm equivalent, which is my personal favourite prime. Indeed just last week I changed out a Sigma 19mm f2.8 Art lens for a 20mm OM Systems f1.4 on a Black Friday deal. Still more expensive as a lens but back to a half sensible price for the first time since introduction. The next step for me in primes is the lovely Olympus 45mm f1.8 and 9mm f8 fishy or 7-14 f1.8 telescopic. My full armoury includes the superb grab and go 14-140 plus a particularly nasty Mk1 Lumix 100-300 whose manual focus ring almost needs a pipe wrench to turn.
Are you filming yourself sitting on a toilette seat there, Brian? Yeah, not your fault, Greek do have those tiny small studios for the tourists, you have to escape and withdraw to the resting room, lol. However it is my favorite video of yours, just because of the grand ending of it. Thank you for including wonderful shots of St. Nicholas orthodox church, you're lucky you can enjoy everyday there in the unprecedented serenity and unadulterated grace. Sigma 30 mm f/1.4 I've bought second hand too but was almost new. Since then it's the most often lens found on my G9 and I have a certain feeling of downgrading every time I'm replacing it with any other lens. The only drawback of this Sigma is a the softness below f/2, but it's the same like 400mm stand of the PL100-400: the sharpness is there, you just have to work hard in post to squeeze it out. More importantly: in video, the f/1.4 somehow stays sharp enough. In a way it's the best lens I have (a conditional statement, really). Another drawback is the lack of OIS. Miniatures like Lumix 42.5mm f/1.7 do have it, and this "giant" doesn't? Too bad. There were often times when covering events when I couldn't fit everyone in the frame, and desperately needed it but had no other camera on me nor time to change the lens. But the character of the 30mm look, the intimacy, makes it up enormously. Nobody ever complained I didn't fit their legs in the frame etc. If I died before the advent of MFT, I wouldn't have known what my favorite focal lengths were: 20mm and 30mm. In analogue times I "hated" 50mm FF (25mm in MFT format) because it was "boring" (=had no money to try out many others, just had 24mm and 75-150mm next to 50mm). Much later the Lumix 20mm f/1.7 pancake opened my eyes, and the Sigma 30mm f/2.8 likewise. Meanwhile tried Lumix macro 30mm and this Sigma f/1.4. Even with the zooms most of what I've shot turns out to be at around 30mm. With Olympus 40-150mm or Lumix 35-100mm you do cover almost all that you need from the telephoto range, but the 35mm or the 40mm is just that little bit too tight for my favorite field of view and perspective. I can't wait to try out those two - 10-25mm and 25-50mm f/1.7 Judging from the reviews, those two sole zooms may be enough to replace anything else, except a couple small lightweight pancakes for the hiking trips.
A very interesting lens there Brian. It would fit in between my Lumix 25mm F1-7 and my 7Artisans 55mm F1.4 very nicely, I think that I will check it out. By the way, I thought that I recognised the church and hotel as I was at the Louis Phaethon Beach Hotel just over a year ago. I managed to get some cracking photos there with my alternative camera which is the Lumix FZ1000 bridge camera (another great camera in my opinion).
I have the 30mm F1.4 and it’s one of the sharpest lenses I have ever used. I’ve always wanted the 56mm F1.4 for portraiture, maybe it’s time to take the plunge. 👍
The 55mm 1.4 is my favourite of the new lenses. It was the same with the old 60mm 2.8; it produced lovely portraits ; but there again , so did the old 30mm 2.8. In short , I never found any reason to upgrade from the old range because 2.8 is not really slow and I don’t really need anything faster than 1.8; which was equally true when I was shooting film . Sigma make some of the best lenses out there and at a price that puts many to shame for what they ask us to pay for good glass . Of course , we are drawn to our choice of camera because of the lens choices we have , but that was only one factor in my book. Back in the good old days I loved the universal screw on lens and it was largely why I went to MFT to get a great lens to match the body I wanted to use . Even today , I can find no good reason to replace my EM10 Mkii . It isn’t that there are no good alternatives by other manufactures ; for clearly there are ; but my existing gear does everything I need and will ever need as far as I can tell . In an ideal world I would like a universal lens Mount that all manufacturers adopted . Were that to happen then a universal chip utilised . With an ever shrinking sales because of phones , I fear demise of camera companies in the near future .
I have the trio for the ef-m and m43 mounts. If you enjoy the 30mm , you’ll love the experience and results of the 56mm on lumix or Olympus camera body.. Don’t hesitate, grab your 56mm.. it’s calling you 📸
I've just got the 30mm 1.4 and I'm over the moon with it, I got it new as it had 3yr warranty. I used it for a Pub tribute act that doesn't stay still😂, because of limited distance I am seriously thinking of the 16mm Sigma for full length shots. Pity I can't show a couple of out of camera shots. (G9)
Hope you enjoy Brain I have the 56mm version I the set of three which I like using. I have the Lumix F1.4 25mm and got that for the reasons you stated bought second hand from my local store and for low light times that I need.
Great review, Brian. I was not aware of this lens, and now I'm a bit conflicted as I have a Brightin Star 35mm f0.95 on order. The reviews indicate that it's optics are no where as good as this Sigma, and it's manual focus, but it's also a full stop faster, and new about the same price as used copies of the Sigma 30mm. My intention with this lens is to do some super low light "atmospheric" photography where absolute sharpness wouldn't be noticeable, but the versatility of this Sigma lens makes a case that it might be a lot more useful. Thanks for stirring my pot for me! 🙂
Ok, so, because of you, I bought this lens (renewed), because I’m looking for a “fast” lens. Looking forward to using it. Will let you know what I think. Thanks for a great channel. Tom O
I like a lot of plastic lenses, I think having a Canon M50 did that to me. The EF-M lenses are some very fine plastic lenses. It's too bad they can't be adapted to other lens mounts
Interesting video, especially the views on focal length and portrait photography. I don't really do much portrait stuff and am terrible at it, especially indoors as I have never really got comfortable with using light and flash as almost everything I do is outside and I rely on natural light. On Sigma, they're a very good company with a lot of expertise and make an excellent product.
Your pronunciation of bokeh, a Japanese word (boké, 暈け), is one of the closest ones I've ever heard to (except the stress is on the wrong syllable, in Japanese it is at the end) -everyone else sounds very different from the original Japanese. I don't know who gets to decide which one is the correct pronunciation of a borrowed word.
I totally agree about the advantages of these Sigma primes, and you make great points about the versatility of the 30mm if picking just one of them. Having an f/1.4 maximum aperture on these primes is fantastic and I suspect that corner sharpness is aided by the fact that these lenses are designed to cover an APSC sensor.
Exactly. The other big thing I failed to mention in the video is that it’s smaller than the f1.2 25mm Olympus and a HUGE amount cheaper with not a huge light advantage
Good day Brian! I have the Sigma Trio and have to say they have to be my favorite primes for both photo and video! The f1.4 is a game changer and with the trio, you can shoot about all you would need for any job! The 16mm is my favorite wide angle with a very small minimum focus distance and the 30 is a great normal focal length! The 56mm is a perfect portrait lens and all are great for both photo and video! It truly is the only 3 primes you will ever need a MFT camera in my personal opinion! I believe you are going to be very happy with the 30mm Sigma contemporary and you will love the 16 and the 56mm as well! Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Speaking of game changer I've found that the latest AI tools in Photoshop, etc. pretty much level the playing field in regard to low light performance of Micro 4/3 vs APS-C or Full Frame. So any temptation to switch to FF has evaporated in my book. Any thoughts on that subject?
I've recently been doing some low light/ night street photography with a colleague who uses a very good full frame camera with fast primes.and I'm carrying a GX9 with a 15mm f1.7 and a 25mm f1.4. After post processing, there is very little difference in IQ when the jpegs are displayed on a 21 inch screen, although I've probably needed to apply a little more noise reduction in the darker shadows.
Yes, nice lens. I have the 56mm. But no image stabilization, so maybe not the best for video. If you have a Lumix camera with IBIS, you can't take advantage of dual IS.
How would you compare the Sigma trio to the OM Systems trio? I just have the f1.8's now, but was considering the f1.2's for the future. My concern for my fabulous OM-1 is the kit weight of the f1.2's compared to these Sigmas. Then you said these Sigma lenses were designed for APS-C -- that would make them larger than required for M4/3. How is the weight of these compared to the Olympus/OM Systems' f1.2's?
I got the 16mm version for my G9. It’s a beautiful lens. $299 brand new from BH Photo in NYC. I just had to get one. The quality of this lens is unbelievable.
Lumix makes a 30mm macro, which is sharp edge to edge, and does macro. Yea, it is f2.8. For faster lens, I use my 15mm or Oly. 25mm. The Sigma is indeed pretty sharp, and according to tests, also has some distortion. Is that corrected in camera??? If so, no worries.
Thanks Brian - some very nice images supporting your helpful review of the lens. I do like my primes, particularly for street/urban photography, and a 30mm f1.4 would be a great addition.
I have the trio of Sigma f1.4s 16mm, 30mm & 56mm albeit as 25.6mm, 48mm & 89.6mm on EF-M mount, where the lens sizes make more sense in traditional field of view. The 56mm is my favourite of the 3. It's great for portraiture and I guess at 112mm on MFT it's similar (but not the same) in f.o.v. to Sigma's 105mm Art that's often used for portraiture on FF, perhaps not so crazy? It's the smallest lens of the 3 which makes perfect sense for MFT. I find the 16mm a little on the large size but that's probably me & my arthritis, my only complaint. I found the 30mm to be not as sharp as the other two but I'm not so obsessed with sharpness as is the current trend. Delighted the 30mm is working for you.
Big fan,of Sigma lenses and they are are on a real roll when it comes to APSC cameras, though I heard that they will no longer make mft mount moving forward, which is too bad. Perhaps too many lenses out there already. Btw, was wondering if you have ever used the Pan. PZ 45 to 175mm, which doesn’t seem to get much attention?
Technically each element is a lens in its own right but yes, you are correct. However, you knew what I meant. I’m old, I’m allowed to make mistakes lol
Micro four thirds is on the way out, OM system pumped out the old Olympus designs and are now going very quiet. The native lens lineup is old and the third parties are pulling out. There is almost no size and weight advantage compared to full frame now, and if you’re going to carry a camera around, who cares if it’s a few grams heavier if it gives better DR, low light performance etc.?
You should just get to your point in the video instead of having the viewer “wait until later in the video to see why [the lens is] a game changer.” Once you said that, I completely shut down your vid and wrote this critical email about how annoying your content is. Just get to your point at the start and fill the remaining 18 minutes of blabber instead of forcing viewers to listen to the blabbering as a prerequisite to get to your point.
You'll love the results from the 56mm f1.4 if you do decide to take the plunge. The 112m field of view might sound a bit tight but this lens is a great focal length for event photography in low light. Its f1.4 gives the equivalent f2.8 so its not too shallow a depth of field for shooting people during events but it lets you up those shutter speeds/ lower ISO which you need shooting M43 during events 👍
100% agree! The Sigma 56mm f1.4 is hands down, the best lens for sharpness and the character, of all the lenses I had over the years. So good. You really need to check this lens out. It is an absolute gem.
I have the 30mm and the 56mm, they are both normally glued to my G9 and GX9. 30mm is a little softer at 1.4 but the 56mm is razor sharp at 1.4, sharper in fact than the Panasonic Leica 42.5 1.2.
I second that vote for the 56mm...primarily used it as a portrait lens on the G9...tried it for indoor sports on the Mk II...wow...clear, sharp and super fast focus on G9 Mk II...would really like to see Sigma bring out zoom telephoto
There’s one heck of a difference in the field of view of 20mm and your 30mm lens. The 30mm has a 60mm full frame equivalent which is almost a ‘portrait’ lens. A 20mm is nicely between a 35 and 50mm full frame at 49mm equivalent, which is my personal favourite prime. Indeed just last week I changed out a Sigma 19mm f2.8 Art lens for a 20mm OM Systems f1.4 on a Black Friday deal. Still more expensive as a lens but back to a half sensible price for the first time since introduction. The next step for me in primes is the lovely Olympus 45mm f1.8 and 9mm f8 fishy or 7-14 f1.8 telescopic. My full armoury includes the superb grab and go 14-140 plus a particularly nasty Mk1 Lumix 100-300 whose manual focus ring almost needs a pipe wrench to turn.
Are you filming yourself sitting on a toilette seat there, Brian? Yeah, not your fault, Greek do have those tiny small studios for the tourists, you have to escape and withdraw to the resting room, lol.
However it is my favorite video of yours, just because of the grand ending of it. Thank you for including wonderful shots of St. Nicholas orthodox church, you're lucky you can enjoy everyday there in the unprecedented serenity and unadulterated grace.
Sigma 30 mm f/1.4 I've bought second hand too but was almost new. Since then it's the most often lens found on my G9 and I have a certain feeling of downgrading every time I'm replacing it with any other lens. The only drawback of this Sigma is a the softness below f/2, but it's the same like 400mm stand of the PL100-400: the sharpness is there, you just have to work hard in post to squeeze it out. More importantly: in video, the f/1.4 somehow stays sharp enough. In a way it's the best lens I have (a conditional statement, really). Another drawback is the lack of OIS. Miniatures like Lumix 42.5mm f/1.7 do have it, and this "giant" doesn't? Too bad.
There were often times when covering events when I couldn't fit everyone in the frame, and desperately needed it but had no other camera on me nor time to change the lens. But the character of the 30mm look, the intimacy, makes it up enormously. Nobody ever complained I didn't fit their legs in the frame etc.
If I died before the advent of MFT, I wouldn't have known what my favorite focal lengths were: 20mm and 30mm. In analogue times I "hated" 50mm FF (25mm in MFT format) because it was "boring" (=had no money to try out many others, just had 24mm and 75-150mm next to 50mm). Much later the Lumix 20mm f/1.7 pancake opened my eyes, and the Sigma 30mm f/2.8 likewise. Meanwhile tried Lumix macro 30mm and this Sigma f/1.4. Even with the zooms most of what I've shot turns out to be at around 30mm. With Olympus 40-150mm or Lumix 35-100mm you do cover almost all that you need from the telephoto range, but the 35mm or the 40mm is just that little bit too tight for my favorite field of view and perspective. I can't wait to try out those two - 10-25mm and 25-50mm f/1.7 Judging from the reviews, those two sole zooms may be enough to replace anything else, except a couple small lightweight pancakes for the hiking trips.
Hi Brian,
I love f4 for photographing flowers. You can get the flower in focus and the background out of focus.
A very interesting lens there Brian. It would fit in between my Lumix 25mm F1-7 and my 7Artisans 55mm F1.4 very nicely, I think that I will check it out. By the way, I thought that I recognised the church and hotel as I was at the Louis Phaethon Beach Hotel just over a year ago. I managed to get some cracking photos there with my alternative camera which is the Lumix FZ1000 bridge camera (another great camera in my opinion).
I have the 30mm F1.4 and it’s one of the sharpest lenses I have ever used. I’ve always wanted the 56mm F1.4 for portraiture, maybe it’s time to take the plunge. 👍
The 55mm 1.4 is my favourite of the new lenses. It was the same with the old 60mm 2.8; it produced lovely portraits ; but there again , so did the old 30mm 2.8.
In short , I never found any reason to upgrade from the old range because 2.8 is not really slow and I don’t really need anything faster than 1.8; which was equally true when I was shooting film .
Sigma make some of the best lenses out there and at a price that puts many to shame for what they ask us to pay for good glass .
Of course , we are drawn to our choice of camera because of the lens choices we have , but that was only one factor in my book. Back in the good old days I loved the universal screw on lens and it was largely why I went to MFT to get a great lens to match the body I wanted to use . Even today , I can find no good reason to replace my EM10 Mkii . It isn’t that there are no good alternatives by other manufactures ; for clearly there are ; but my existing gear does everything I need and will ever need as far as I can tell .
In an ideal world I would like a universal lens Mount that all manufacturers adopted . Were that to happen then a universal chip utilised . With an ever shrinking sales because of phones , I fear demise of camera companies in the near future .
I have the trio for the ef-m and m43 mounts. If you enjoy the 30mm , you’ll love the experience and results of the 56mm on lumix or Olympus camera body.. Don’t hesitate, grab your 56mm.. it’s calling you 📸
I've just got the 30mm 1.4 and I'm over the moon with it, I got it new as it had 3yr warranty. I used it for a Pub tribute act that doesn't stay still😂, because of limited distance I am seriously thinking of the 16mm Sigma for full length shots. Pity I can't show a couple of out of camera shots. (G9)
Hope you enjoy Brain I have the 56mm version I the set of three which I like using. I have the Lumix F1.4 25mm and got that for the reasons you stated bought second hand from my local store and for low light times that I need.
Thanks
Thank you for your support of the channel. Greatly appreciated.
your welcome love the videos ex raf /nhs now retired.
Great review, Brian. I was not aware of this lens, and now I'm a bit conflicted as I have a Brightin Star 35mm f0.95 on order. The reviews indicate that it's optics are no where as good as this Sigma, and it's manual focus, but it's also a full stop faster, and new about the same price as used copies of the Sigma 30mm. My intention with this lens is to do some super low light "atmospheric" photography where absolute sharpness wouldn't be noticeable, but the versatility of this Sigma lens makes a case that it might be a lot more useful. Thanks for stirring my pot for me! 🙂
Ok, so, because of you, I bought this lens (renewed), because I’m looking for a “fast” lens. Looking forward to using it. Will let you know what I think. Thanks for a great channel. Tom O
Hope you enjoy it! Let me know how you get on with it
I like a lot of plastic lenses, I think having a Canon M50 did that to me. The EF-M lenses are some very fine plastic lenses. It's too bad they can't be adapted to other lens mounts
Interesting video, especially the views on focal length and portrait photography. I don't really do much portrait stuff and am terrible at it, especially indoors as I have never really got comfortable with using light and flash as almost everything I do is outside and I rely on natural light. On Sigma, they're a very good company with a lot of expertise and make an excellent product.
Your pronunciation of bokeh, a Japanese word (boké, 暈け), is one of the closest ones I've ever heard to (except the stress is on the wrong syllable, in Japanese it is at the end) -everyone else sounds very different from the original Japanese. I don't know who gets to decide which one is the correct pronunciation of a borrowed word.
My version is Japanese…….in a Geordie (Newcastle) accent lol
@@ThatMicro43Guy Well, it is the closest one to Japanese.
I totally agree about the advantages of these Sigma primes, and you make great points about the versatility of the 30mm if picking just one of them. Having an f/1.4 maximum aperture on these primes is fantastic and I suspect that corner sharpness is aided by the fact that these lenses are designed to cover an APSC sensor.
Exactly. The other big thing I failed to mention in the video is that it’s smaller than the f1.2 25mm Olympus and a HUGE amount cheaper with not a huge light advantage
Cool Brian! And the shots from inside of the church were amazing! Great exposure across the gold and paint -- all with the natural light.
The 56mm from that line is good too
Good day Brian! I have the Sigma Trio and have to say they have to be my favorite primes for both photo and video! The f1.4 is a game changer and with the trio, you can shoot about all you would need for any job! The 16mm is my favorite wide angle with a very small minimum focus distance and the 30 is a great normal focal length! The 56mm is a perfect portrait lens and all are great for both photo and video! It truly is the only 3 primes you will ever need a MFT camera in my personal opinion! I believe you are going to be very happy with the 30mm Sigma contemporary and you will love the 16 and the 56mm as well! Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Speaking of game changer I've found that the latest AI tools in Photoshop, etc. pretty much level the playing field in regard to low light performance of Micro 4/3 vs APS-C or Full Frame. So any temptation to switch to FF has evaporated in my book. Any thoughts on that subject?
I've recently been doing some low light/ night street photography with a colleague who uses a very good full frame camera with fast primes.and I'm carrying a GX9 with a 15mm f1.7 and a 25mm f1.4. After post processing, there is very little difference in IQ when the jpegs are displayed on a 21 inch screen, although I've probably needed to apply a little more noise reduction in the darker shadows.
I’ve sold my Nikon z6. It gave me nothing extra.
Yes, nice lens. I have the 56mm. But no image stabilization, so maybe not the best for video. If you have a Lumix camera with IBIS, you can't take advantage of dual IS.
56mm is to long for filming anyway. I use my 12-40 2.8 olympus pro for filming which has no stabilization as well but its perfect for me.
How would you compare the Sigma trio to the OM Systems trio? I just have the f1.8's now, but was considering the f1.2's for the future. My concern for my fabulous OM-1 is the kit weight of the f1.2's compared to these Sigmas. Then you said these Sigma lenses were designed for APS-C -- that would make them larger than required for M4/3. How is the weight of these compared to the Olympus/OM Systems' f1.2's?
Yes, I have the Sigma 56mm f1.4. It’s a truly wonderful lens.
I got the 16mm version for my G9. It’s a beautiful lens. $299 brand new from BH Photo in NYC. I just had to get one. The quality of this lens is unbelievable.
Thanks for sharing
Lumix makes a 30mm macro, which is sharp edge to edge, and does macro. Yea, it is f2.8. For faster lens, I use my 15mm or Oly. 25mm. The Sigma is indeed pretty sharp, and according to tests, also has some distortion. Is that corrected in camera??? If so, no worries.
I believe it may be. But remember on the MFT version we are not using the full lens width so we are not seeing the edges which the APSc users are
Thanks Brian - some very nice images supporting your helpful review of the lens. I do like my primes, particularly for street/urban photography, and a 30mm f1.4 would be a great addition.
I have the trio of Sigma f1.4s 16mm, 30mm & 56mm albeit as 25.6mm, 48mm & 89.6mm on EF-M mount, where the lens sizes make more sense in traditional field of view. The 56mm is my favourite of the 3. It's great for portraiture and I guess at 112mm on MFT it's similar (but not the same) in f.o.v. to Sigma's 105mm Art that's often used for portraiture on FF, perhaps not so crazy? It's the smallest lens of the 3 which makes perfect sense for MFT. I find the 16mm a little on the large size but that's probably me & my arthritis, my only complaint. I found the 30mm to be not as sharp as the other two but I'm not so obsessed with sharpness as is the current trend. Delighted the 30mm is working for you.
I'm sold, looks like a good improvement on the 25mm f1.7. Thanks
It's a cracking lens, at the moment 3yr warranty.
i use m43 for my wildlife, but i do have this lens on my fuji X-T5 for street/travel it an awesome lightweight lens and super sharp i love it.
Thanks for sharing!
Big fan,of Sigma lenses and they are are on a real roll when it comes to APSC cameras, though I heard that they will no longer make mft mount moving forward, which is too bad. Perhaps too many lenses out there already. Btw, was wondering if you have ever used the Pan. PZ 45 to 175mm, which doesn’t seem to get much attention?
I purchased that lens when I first moved to M4/3 with my GX8. It's ideal for remote photo/video due being able to control the zoom on the phone app.
No, never tried it
Incredible photos
hi brian great review, i'm off to get one
Hope it turns out great for you
9 elements,not 9 lenses 😂
Technically each element is a lens in its own right but yes, you are correct. However, you knew what I meant. I’m old, I’m allowed to make mistakes lol
... thank you . I think i will buy it. ☺
You should! I’m really impressed
Micro four thirds is on the way out, OM system pumped out the old Olympus designs and are now going very quiet. The native lens lineup is old and the third parties are pulling out. There is almost no size and weight advantage compared to full frame now, and if you’re going to carry a camera around, who cares if it’s a few grams heavier if it gives better DR, low light performance etc.?
You should just get to your point in the video instead of having the viewer “wait until later in the video to see why [the lens is] a game changer.” Once you said that, I completely shut down your vid and wrote this critical email about how annoying your content is. Just get to your point at the start and fill the remaining 18 minutes of blabber instead of forcing viewers to listen to the blabbering as a prerequisite to get to your point.
Thanks for this but one request, this complaint is far too long. Can you make it more concise and get to your point?
@@ThatMicro43Guy lol touché.