MotorWeek Review | 1993 CXA Citroen XM

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  • @maciejszumny6919
    @maciejszumny6919 2 роки тому +23

    Used to have a 1991 Citroen XM Pallas. What a gorgeous car it was.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 2 роки тому +27

    I rode in a '99 Citroen Xantia "zan-sha" in Belgium at the time and this car was amazing! It went up paver roads in Brussels like they were asphalt. You heard the road, not felt it. Eventually I drove it, and it cornered like a VW GTI, but normally the suspension was perfect!

    • @martian9999
      @martian9999 5 місяців тому +1

      I owned three different Xantias, and they were all a revelation. The car had passive rear steering, so you cold really push it in the bends, but beware the squirrely handling at the limit!

  • @Azureecosse
    @Azureecosse Рік тому +6

    My elderly grand parents had an XM Familiale Diesel in the UK they lived off road in the country to get to their house they had to drive down a rutted track that was nearly a quarter of a mile from the main road, they though it was perfect for the job I do remember that it was quite an unreliable car as it aged especially with the brakes and electrics, the car ultimately went to the Scrap yard as many big Citroens did prematurely.

  • @johnnymason2460
    @johnnymason2460 Рік тому +13

    It's a shame we couldn't get this car officially back in 1992. It would have probably cost in the mid-$30,000 range instead of close to $50,000 after being imported by CXA. The XM wagon would have been great to have now.

  • @MrBlonde294
    @MrBlonde294 2 роки тому +19

    03:00 the reason why people bought a Citroën back then, the best ride quality of all cars back then
    the Xantia has even the best results in the Swedish elk test

  • @vpnconsult
    @vpnconsult Рік тому +7

    Good camerawork for the '90's

  • @jlindborg1105
    @jlindborg1105 Рік тому +5

    Actually, that V6 engine (PRV) was installed in the DeLorean too. ;)

    • @KR1275
      @KR1275 10 місяців тому

      Not this one.

    • @jlindborg1105
      @jlindborg1105 10 місяців тому

      What engine was installed in that one??

    • @KR1275
      @KR1275 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jlindborg1105 That was the 2849 cc from the Peugeot 604/505/Renault 25. This XM uses the later 3L.

    • @jlindborg1105
      @jlindborg1105 10 місяців тому +1

      @@KR1275 I was actually under the impression that it factually was the PRV engine that was installed in the DeLorean. Peugeot Renault Volvo. 2963 cc.

    • @TheSimonhammond
      @TheSimonhammond 9 місяців тому +1

      @@KR1275 This the 12valve PRV v6. The 24V is completely different.

  • @johnsimun6533
    @johnsimun6533 Рік тому +9

    That is like $98,395 today. That is a little bit more than I value it at, I think I will go with a Saab. Cool car tho.

  • @carwrtr1
    @carwrtr1 2 роки тому +20

    I think this is a beautiful car; sad that Americans dislike French cars. I’d own it!

  • @TheArtistsWay67
    @TheArtistsWay67 2 роки тому +9

    Presumably those smaller headlamps and therefore wider grille are US spec. Or am I seeing things?

    • @aaaabababa
      @aaaabababa Рік тому +6

      yes, the headlights were from some kind of Pontiac or Oldsmobile of the time, done to meet some US regulatons.

    • @aviestrela
      @aviestrela Рік тому +3

      ​@@aaaabababa they look OEM to me

    • @aaaabababa
      @aaaabababa Рік тому +4

      @@aviestrela they aren't, you can clearly see that they aren't as wide and that the grille is widened to make it look like it's supposed to be that way.

    • @compu85
      @compu85 Рік тому +2

      They're the headlights from an early 90s Pontiac Grand Prix, which are a little narrower than the original lights. There's a painted piece to fill the gap.

    • @htimsid
      @htimsid Рік тому +1

      What might have been 'wrong' with the original lamps...?@@compu85

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd 2 роки тому +5

    XM wonderfully different. Totally an oddball rare buy in EU. Especially in UK. Don’t doubt France was at best a low seller. It’s a larger saloon. They don’t sell

    • @eozcompany9856
      @eozcompany9856 2 роки тому +4

      They made over 300,000 that ain’t bad for a high-priced premium car. I can still see at least one or two every week.

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 Рік тому +1

    These cars were bullit proof. Very durable and reliable.

  • @johnnymason3265
    @johnnymason3265 Рік тому

    I would love to have seen a Citroen XM hatchback, XM wagon, and a Peugeot 605 here in America. They all sound like great upscale cars.

  • @petrovicmotors3775
    @petrovicmotors3775 2 роки тому +12

    I was a mechanic back then when those cars where 2 years old (Europe)
    My god always something broken they loved the service shop!!
    Most of them luckily 4 cil gas or Diesel engines.
    They drove nice when they did…🙃

    • @FEGTTTSDH
      @FEGTTTSDH Рік тому

      Later versions are much more reliable... even citroen fans reccomend avoid first gen...

    • @seraphinberktold7087
      @seraphinberktold7087 11 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@FEGTTTSDH The lack of reliability only applies to the very first production year(s?).
      The cost cutters botched up the electronic connectors, IIRC keeping test connectors in the first production batches.
      They changed that weakness quickly and the first Generation (Y3) is even more rust resistant than the second (Y4) produced from 1994 onwards.

  • @ce9345
    @ce9345 2 роки тому +20

    Unfortunately there hasn't been a french car imported into the US in nearly 30 years!

    • @bmwman1981
      @bmwman1981 Рік тому

      You should be happy that they aren’t importing french cars as they are horrendously bad

    • @christinajoachim386
      @christinajoachim386 Рік тому +5

      You have no idea about Cars from France 🙈

    • @bmwman1981
      @bmwman1981 Рік тому

      @@christinajoachim386 I fix them for a living they are hideous to repair and are poorly designed

    • @christinajoachim386
      @christinajoachim386 Рік тому +7

      ... poorly designed??? 🙄It's not true, have in actually a great Technology. I own 12 Hydropneumatik-Cars. 3.0 hdi C6, C5, 3x xm y4 v6, Xantia Activa v6 and 4 further Xantia, BX, GSA Pallas. I believe, I have enough Experience that to say.... 😉

    • @htimsid
      @htimsid Рік тому

      Which have you owned?@@bmwman1981

  • @JakobKsGarage
    @JakobKsGarage Рік тому

    What is that Pooh Show he's talking about?

  • @Julian-do7bv
    @Julian-do7bv 2 роки тому +2

    Thats pretty good money back then

  • @xm222
    @xm222 2 роки тому +6

    A very beautiful car 😊👍

  • @TheAllMightyGodofCod
    @TheAllMightyGodofCod Рік тому +1

    I would love to see a test to that famous french Poohjoe car.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому

      In this case, American English is closer to the French pronunciation than British English... Unless I am mistaken. Same in how Americans say Citro-en, more similar to the French pronunciation.

    • @TheAllMightyGodofCod
      @TheAllMightyGodofCod Рік тому

      @@TassieLorenzo and how does that relate with any of what I said? I really don't see where you are getting at.

  • @martian9999
    @martian9999 5 місяців тому

    apart from the ill-fated and unreliable Audi Offroad, large Citroens are the ONLY vehicles that are a relaxing drive at 110 mhp, can up their suspension in case of high water or a snowdrift, and have good fuel economy. A truly civilized and versatile car. Setright knew what he was talking about when he praised them.

  • @iamnotu79
    @iamnotu79 2 роки тому

    Reminds me of an ‘88 Tercel hatchback

    • @ohguy1991
      @ohguy1991 2 роки тому

      Wait....What???

    • @iamnotu79
      @iamnotu79 2 роки тому

      @@ohguy1991 Profile view particularly, it has subtle similarities.

  • @Sanpedranoazul
    @Sanpedranoazul Рік тому

    What a supercar this was

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 7 місяців тому

    Et maintenant pour quelque chose de complètement différent.

  • @Peterkragger
    @Peterkragger Рік тому +5

    I hate how Americans call Peugeot "Poo-joe"

  • @GoldPhish
    @GoldPhish Рік тому +1

    $128,116 in 2023. I’m shook

    • @SlitWristMisfit_
      @SlitWristMisfit_ Рік тому +2

      I think the proce was only so high because of the cost to import it and make it US legal.

  • @klasseact6663
    @klasseact6663 2 роки тому

    Must've been 1's of them brought in🤔

  • @blisterbrain
    @blisterbrain Рік тому

    I'm assuming that their business model failed.

  • @petrovicmotors3775
    @petrovicmotors3775 2 роки тому +12

    Citroen is NOT a reliable car!!
    I m professional mechanic in Europe for 25 years!!
    No French car is reliable!!
    Even today!
    Except 1994 Renault Twingo!!🙂🤣

    • @Mike_Ockiner
      @Mike_Ockiner 2 роки тому +6

      When I was self employed I had two Citroen Dispatch vans (98 and 02) that went way past 200K miles without a hitch. My 2015 Renault Trafic I sold with 225K a year ago and the guy still has it and uses it daily. I also had two Ford Transits that were nothing but trouble.

    • @maciejszumny6919
      @maciejszumny6919 2 роки тому +3

      Oh please…

    • @balkantex2831
      @balkantex2831 2 роки тому +2

      And how exactly is it not reliable ? Some owners had issues, some of them hadnt any, so it mostly depends on luck, same with modern German and Italian crap.

    • @michaelheimbrand5424
      @michaelheimbrand5424 2 роки тому +9

      I have worked on Citroëns for 30 years and in the same time driven over a million km in XM´s. And I´m happy to say that you don´t know what you are talking about. The XM is a VERY reliable car. And no, I´m not a "Citroën only". My personal "collection" has always had both Swedish and German cars together with the French. One of my four XM´s has over 500000km on the clock and has not left me stranded once. The myth about poor reliability is only kept alive by bad mechanics that doesn´t know anything about Citroëns, and of course bad journalists like this one in motorweek. Long time since I saw such a bad review. I mean, he managed to complain about interior space in the front in the car with the same space as an S-class. Also, complaining about body-roll when Tiff Needell judged the handling on par with a Lotus. I guess it´s like when biased motorweek killed the Isuzu Trooper in the handling test (and lost in court after beeing sued). Bad journalists makes bad tests.

    • @balkantex2831
      @balkantex2831 2 роки тому +1

      @@michaelheimbrand5424 Wow that is nice to hear. We had C5 Estate 1.6 HDI 1.Gen (bought new), it had few factory issues in the beginning , but after issues were resolved it ran flawlessly, sadly it was sold at 125K KM, because of financial reasons. Modern hydropneumatic suspension can last a long a time before it needs some servicing, but for comfort it is definitely worth the money.

  • @cameron6249
    @cameron6249 2 роки тому +7

    55k in '93 for an ugly unreliable car? 🤣🤣🤣 that's a lot of money even today for a reliable car

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому +5

      The XM is a delightful sleek aerodynamic wedge, thank you very much! Not some boring 3-box sedan. 😉
      The idea the quality is noticeably worse than other European cars is untrue IMO. Besides a little TLC is part of the charm. Same goes for the even more beautiful Alfa Romeo 164. 😊

  • @TheJayWashExperience
    @TheJayWashExperience Рік тому

    This looks like a French Chevy Corsica that’s way too expensive

    • @htimsid
      @htimsid Рік тому +1

      Too expensive for what?

  • @charlietriana9448
    @charlietriana9448 Рік тому

    We’re so lucky they stopped importing these

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd 2 роки тому +3

    XM wonderfully different. Totally an oddball rare buy in EU. Especially in UK. Don’t doubt France was at best a low seller. It’s a larger saloon. They don’t sell