2022 Winnebago Revel 2 Week Ownership Update! The Good, Bad, & Ugly
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Kyle takes you through a thorough 2 week and 2,000 mile ownership update of the Out of Spec Revel. Here’s almost everything we’ve learned about this rig along the way so far.
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0:00 - Intro
1:14 - Why I Chose A Revel
5:05 - How I Bought This Revel
7:37 - Factory Delivery Experience
11:38 - Exterior Tour
21:57 - Interior Tour
27:00 - Revel Intricacies
34:25 - Electrical System Overview
42:10 - Problems So Far
45:58 - Upgrades / Modifications
52:25 - Driving The Revel
1:00:25 - Final Thoughts
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0:00 - Intro
1:14 - Why I Chose A Revel
5:05 - How I Bought This Revel
7:37 - Factory Delivery Experience
11:38 - Exterior Tour
21:57 - Interior Tour
27:00 - Revel Intricacies
34:25 - Electrical System Overview
42:10 - Problems So Far
45:58 - Upgrades / Modifications
52:25 - Driving The Revel
1:00:25 - Final Thoughts
You didn't cover the drivers assistance features, what I wanted to know How is the Lane Keep assist on this Sprinter? electric steering? auto steer will correct and put you back in lane?? Did they improve the drivers assistance functions from the earlier model years ?
I think this guy holds the Guinness book of records for speaking coherently without ever saying “um”. He is the verbal one shot scene from True Detective Season 1. Well done brotha and thank you for the creating this video for those of us still on the fence.
You can catch the only “um” at 8:59. I wish I didn’t read this comment. 🤣
@@tuomasholo lol
He says uhhhh, a lot. Same thing as um
The RV industry is so ready for Lexus style customer service. Whoever figures out the improved customer service will dominate the market.
Totally agree!
Yeah my buddies trailer shower and sink was broken and took almost a year before the dealer fixed it. We had to keep pulling it out of the dealer to use it (without the sink and shower) and take it back to dealer once we were done in hopes they would get it fixed. The RV industry is in terrible shape right now.
@@dwaynedwayne1964 diy ftw!
One way is for manufacturers that want to improve the industry disintermediate the low performing dealers ruthlessly.
@@cafe88racer53 Under warranty why would you pay for parts yourself and labor? There were multiple other things that needed warranty work too like the broken awning, but I didn't feel the need to list them all LOL.
Great job Kyle! I continued to pick up several more pointers in addition to the personal electronic tutorial in the grocery store parking lot in Frisco, CO. Thank you very much!
We've had a 2020(2019 chassis) for over a year now. A LOT of little bugs to work out, which as you say you expect. We live in Austin, and wife picked it up in San Diego. First night driving it back, plugs in at an RV spot in Tucson, no rooftop AC. Blows, but not cold. It is 92 degrees, at 8 pm. Not a happy camper. Long story short, it was the wrong rooftop AC installed. The one on there had a heater also, which the Revel is not wired for. Also on the drive back, starts raining, the antenna seal is leaking and dripping water through the top console. This caused my wife to start leaking out of her eye holes. All that was fixed, but when you spend a lot of money, you should have perfection. At the price point these are at now, Winnebago needs to up their quality control game significantly. I recommend others to look at other van conversion companies such as Sportsmobile. Love the van, just not happy with Winnebagos QC. Currently looking for a replacement for that debacle folding galley faucet, which is designed to fail.
Winnebago should be ashamed, really.
This is exactly what I needed. A revel review from a car and ev guy. You da man
Owl Vans in Calif is an aftermarket bonanza of accessories for your Revel. Exhaust system for starters, Kyle. The exhaust kit you can DIY!
Pedal Control Kit for the turbo lag. DIY ease!
Owl has You Tube how tos!
Rear ladder system instead of the Winnebago cheezy ladder.
A rear step. A rear door tire mount system.
A rear windows replacement system.
A front bumper system.
Suspension upgrades that Owl Vans has identified, and remedied too.
John, owner of Owl Vans is totally cool to work with.
With a vehicle that’s that high of a ticket item, there are way too many damned design flaws, and necessary modifications to make this thing worth the “investment”. Thank you so very much for your honest review.
Love the Revel content! Excited to see how you mod it.
Thank you for the thorough walk-through. The only reason I can think of for the extended running boards is for stone and debris kickup protection. Those large tires will kickup stones a lot further than most.
Awesome as always!
Thanks for adding a driving review. Most reviewers leave this out. I know turbos can have a lag, but you're the first to show (or even mention) that it is pretty severe.
Awesome. Long term Revel and Revel related issues/upgrades specifically is hard to find.
Very helpful, informative video Kyle. Thank you for making it. I’d love to see you review a 21 foot Solis w/ pop top.
Outstanding RV & content. The Ford Ekko looks cool too
Wow- You're a lucky guy. Have fun! I will keep supporting this channel so please upload more videos on EV and RV ownership haha. Keep up the good work Kyle.
This channel doesn’t have much EV stuff going on. Here or there but expect mostly combustion. Thanks for watching
Great insights, Kyle!
Subscribed! Looking forward to more…
You gave a good video and covered a large amount of info which most will want to hear. That turbo lag is a bother. I have the Sprinter van and it has no turbo lag. Talk to some mechanic who knows the MB Sprinter and he-she may be able to find a solution to either adjust the throttle or improve the intake-not just open up the air path but get the air to move quicker from the stop. You know some motors have a plenum in the air path that allow a quicker response and yet does not intrude on high end performance.
This is a great review!! Thank you so much for doing it. I do think that such an expensive vehicle should have a higher quality. Storyteller's seem to be better built. I was just at the Lake Tahoe Adventure Van Expo and I was able to see many vans and the quality does change dramatically even though the prices are all around the same 150k to 200k bracket.
Cool! We just put a deposit on a 2022! Can’t wait to see what you post on here the good, the not so good, and the mix in between.
We’re also in CO!
How much guys
ridicuously high price!
@@javieroramas2764 $200k + 😂 SMH And a 1 year waiting list at some dealers. I built 1 that way better for maybe $40k van cost included. Nobody could ever convince me that these vans are worth $200k sorry just a case of more $ than sence
How long before delivery?
Nice review ! Thx
Great review. Disappointing at the low build quality in this price range though.
The key by the bed control is there so you can remove the key so the bed can't be raised or lowered if someone is on it or below it. Probably a safety thing. Great video!
Thank you for this honest review. I was going to get a sprinter. I will get a Ram . Thanks
on that Table I had teh same with one of my RV's I wrapped Teflon Tape around the table clamp, stopped the squeaking and still was very usable!
that is around the shaft of the table that the clamp engages.
We have the KO2 on our rig and we don’t notice unusually loud road noise. We just upgraded from the factory Nexans. The softness of the tread is great off road but gives a higher level of compliance on the road. I put the KO2 on factory steelies.
Good video. So you have discovered how a local dealer can help with the niggles that every RV has upon delivery. You can repair many of the small items yourself but I think like you, "why have to fix these items yourself on a new rig". We had 3 service visits year 1 on our Class A with 30+ items which were broken or not adjusted properly.
Happy to see RV Dealers are negotiating given the lack of inventory. Typically pre-covid you could expect a 30% discount easy. May I ask, what you ended up purchasing for? Final price vs. MSRP.
Me too
Table: Nylon washers or 7-20 mil film or Tri-Flow to add Teflon. (Bike Shop or Hardware Store)
We've seen both the 2022 Tiffin build and the 2022 Revel and the inside quality of the build of the Tiffin is shockingly low quality for the price. The inside of the cupboards actually cracked open with a tiny test push to see if it was sturdy and the seal just broke so easily. Glue strips were peeling off that held storage space pockets and floor strips were peeling! It was brand new! The Revel seemed like a much more quality build in comparison with steel trim on the cupboards and doors, nothing was very worn or broken that we could see and it had 5k miles on it from previous owner. Good to know about the flaws/broken elements you shared because we haven't bought it yet so I want to give it another walk though. Also another drive to test out that power issue! Thanks again for the video!
Superbly balanced review. Great to break it up into chapters, great to talk both sides, pluses and minuses, which spawns dialogue by the viewer on topics we'd otherwise not considered. If I would make one suggestion, spend a bit more time on describing your personal habits and routine; eg., how you prepare meals, what are your normal activities outdoors..biking etc ? This will give me a better idea of utility. I could see this as something that allows me to go to some mix of beautiful places, but still work effectively as a virtual person. So it's good to know how you use and set up your workspace (if you do).... and so on. But really great job.
One last thing: I don't want to start my RV experience with a purchase. I don't know enough. Is it easy to rent a Revel for several weeks?
You mentioned that the 4x4’s are built in Germany, We ordered a 2021, 170”, 4x4 last December for a Storyteller style buildout (supposed to be in August 1st) and the dealer said it was being built in the SC factory.
Nice video review, we have a few Tesla’s and always get a kick out of your vids.
Kyle very good video 👍 very informative, I am not a RV guy however it was good to see/hear about your experience thus far .. still can’t believe I watched this video in full, and for anyone that is thinking of skipping don’t it’s a real eye opener.. leaded allot .. the only major take away is for performance you need a BEV RV... life is good after that no tune needed..
I like the bathroom in the revel.. WGO really needs to do a volta system like in the STO for the revel... I have 2022 Travato GL on order - hopefully delivered next month.. I wish the Travato had a cassette toilet rather than its black tank -- I may well do a mod to put a cassette in the Travato
Revel 2022 owner since April, 6000 miles so far. The Inverter does not need to be turned on and off in the gear garage. Keep it off back there and just turn it on/off at the One Panel. Never had an issue with it. Some may find that you cannot connect city water unless you leave the door open. We have found we are never in one place with hookups more than one night (we prefer boon docking) so that is not an issue. Plus if it runs out, just open the door and fill it up!
Hi how long can AC run in the evening? Our Revel is being built and I can’t seem to get an answer on this topic.. thanks B
@@brianserino6937 2 - 2.5 hrs
If you can track regenerations, I'd love to know what your regen frequency is before and after a tune. I agree the van is underpowered, but I am not willing to sacrifice longevity of the DPF; I'd probably buy a 1-ton pickup based camper if it starts impacting emissions reliability.
Owl Vans has exhaust kit to convert. They actually have some of the highest quality accessories/ MODs for Revel on the market. A lot of RV/Van shops also sell or install for you.
Like the ladder/spare carrier combo whose 1st accessible rung is 5 feet off the ground when the spare is there? They have poor designs and high prices
$200K with those faults? I'd take it back...
149 -159k
Your experience reminds me when I bought a 1999 Eurovan Winnebago many years ago. Winnebago has not changed in twenty years. The VW chassis was great, the Winnebago portion not so much - constant rattles, leaks, etc. Whenever there was an issue Winnebago said it was a VW issue, VW said it was a Winnebago issue. Learned a lot so I could repair the issues rather than dealing with dealers. The camping was great!
Wow! A whole series on hash tag Van Life !!! With a Sprinter!! Sounds like it could be a real unique channel ;-)
Excellent! Are there on-line tech manuals from 1) Mercedes. 2) Winnebago 3) 3rd party accessories.
Get some crc heavy marine corrosion inhibitor and spray every thing under the rv provides great rust protection. I DONT work for them but the product is great. Its like a liquid cosmoline that dries on.
Kyle- Check out Don't waste your money on batteries by Morton's on the Move. That guy must be an electrical engineer and does a deep dive into lithium batteries. Your content contradicted him on some critical points: 1-Lithium performs great in cold weather doesn't need heat, just insulation, 2- You can run them down lower than you mention. PS: Love your delivery and demeanor and I'm sure you will do well as a Van Life you tuber as well.
Kyle, had you decided on the Revel, or did you look at other options before deciding? Curious if you the Airstream Interstate 19 was on your list, and if yes, how you decided. Thanks.
The Sprinter itself is a good van, I have driven a lot of all generations. The Winnebago part is ok but doesn't look very high quality. And the price is astronomus. Way to expensive. You get much better made 4x4 Sprinter RV's for a lot less money out here in Germany. Identical cars a mostly cheaper in the US. But those Sprinter RV's are way cheaper out here in europe.
But I wish you a lot of fun and allzeit gute Fahrt (always a good drive).
How much there ?
very cool. At 6'7" I'm always nervous about Camping. I just don't fit! When I saw the Thumbnails on my feed, I figured you got your hands on an EV Mercedes chassis converted to fully Winnebago... I guess that will happen in some years time!
EV van for this application won’t happen for many many years
Hydrogen fuel cell could work, however, the infrastructure doesn't exist yet.
We picked it up with the 1200 miles from a dealer with the same sort of experience. We didn’t exist after wiring the money and receiving the keys :D There was factory pickup available though and we’d still pay the delivery fee for us non-youuber’s
My oh my. We took a Winnebago Navion from NC to TX and back. The worst part was driving past semis or even being passed by other cars. The thing would get blown all over the road and due to its top heavy design it really would lean heavy when taking any kind of curves or low speed bumps. The 3.0L V6 turbodiesel is also extremely underpowered. MB needs to step up their game.
Thanks! Learned a lot from your video! What color is your camper van?
Awesome video! Do you mind sharing what type of financing you got? Whats the monthly payment one can expect from this and also how many mpg do you get and how often do you need to fill up? Im in the market for one but I have to calculate all expenses. Ohh before I forget, what the ball park for the insurance?
2021 Revel owner here: The rear diff is actually lower than the side tail pipe (I added a guard to the diff.) Haven't had an issue with the side pipe in a year of ownership off road - did add a van compass suspension kit this winter. Owl does make an extension to move behind the back tire. Nice video - enjoy
I was almost ready to buy one. Not any more...
I do not want to be treated to inferior product and inferior service.
For my wife an I, just car camping in our comfy, reliable SUV, plus a tent, plus occasional hotel stay -- that is the way to travel in our retirement.
Thank you so much for doing this independent video. There are too many promotional dealership vids -- and they do not tell the truth.
what are your feeling about the size of it? Would you want a 170" instead or do you feel 100% settled with the 144"?
29:00 there are RVs with self-leveling hydraulic systems but I don’t think they’ve made their way into Class B yet.
Pretty through video description of the REVEL. Note your comment about panels in the cab, those are all Mercedes and not Winnebago. Winnebago buys the crew cab version and then changes the interior from the drivers backrest to the front. I have a 2019 Revel with the older engine and transmission (2018 Chassis), AGM batteries still but reliable. I added a solar suitcase 125 W panel for external use and also carry a Jackery 1500 solar generator with 4 100W solar panels. Works great and saves on chassis battery use.
Owl vans offers an exhaust option, along with Agile Off-road offering an item reinstall
Try a tennis ball as a sliding side door stop, works on my Autocruise Tempo.
You got some friends huh, I love Steve Lehtos, great guy and lemon law attorney
Agree on the quality statement…I would be happy with Honda quality which is pretty darn good…
Full disclosure, but you didn't disclose the price you paid. Thanks, very helpful.
Cool this can be a mobile studio for your channel 👍👍
That’s the idea!
If given a choice of sprinter or transit, which would you prefer.
Best improvement for ride is a Van Compass stage 4 suspension kit! Makes is less bouncy, stable in high winds and cornering, well worth every penny. I own a 2019 Revel... LOVE IT!
IT'S NOT A SPORTSCAR!
The Xantrex batteries are probably LFP, which is fine leaving at 100%. The one thing that could hurt it is charging below freezing, but it may already have a low temp disconnect.
Yup low temp disconnect and a manual battery heater
We picked up our Revel in Sacramento at the dealer. It only had 67 miles on the odometer. I have seen them on flat transports crossing the country on my drives. So they DO NOT show up with 1200 miles on them. Plus we found no flaws at delivery and during the weeks since. I guess IT DOES MATTER who you buy from.
I hope to get one. Screw living in an apartment
Wow the turbo lag on that thing is crazy
Owl Vans sells a Pedal Control Kit to nix the Mercedes-Benz turbo/pedal lag. Inexpensive, and a must have. EASY to DIY!
i saw 3 of these at the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb. All in the same color
One of them would have been ours! We were up there for the race
Yes, hate the color and all the same. Like the blue the first year they came out with FJ Cruiser. I like black
I'd like to see how your bigger dogs adapt to smaller living space.
200k for a 53k van is wild to me, it’s not like they add anything crazy, it’s all stuff people routinely add on themselves from 3rd party sellers. If you have the money, and don’t enjoy having control of what the space will look like, then sure, go ahead. I’m certain that you can build a better van on this exact same chassis with that spare 147k, you could have enough lithium to power a village and enough solar panels to do the same and you wouldn’t make a dent into that 147k. If the interior was something really unique and special and not just your run of the mill most basic cabinetry in the industry then maybe I could justify it as being something niche or novelty that you’re paying for the uniqueness of and/or custom craftsmanship, but the reality is there’s nothing unique at all about the interior and it is painfully standard and the price is not justified in any facet. Winnebago makes a bunch of trailers that are 23-30 feet long fully furnished with full bedrooms and bathrooms and kitchens with appliances and they cost 30k and have better craftsmanship than this van, so where is that cost coming from I guess is my main gripe. I don’t hate the van, it’s a cool van, I just really dislike the premise, the margins for Winnebago on this van have to be 10x what their margins are for the rest of their lineup, and that bothers me.
I’m not saying any of this as an attack on you for purchasing the van, I totally understand the appeal and why you purchased the van etc. I just have a major gripe with how it he can is marketed and/or priced. I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of it and it brings you a lot of traffic to your channel. Thanks for the super detailed video. .
I don't know if you fixed your no power issue or not yet, but I believe it is a body sensor issue. I recently got s decent amount of snow near me, and the 360 sensors were blocked, so when I hit the fuel pedal, it was like I wasn't hitting it at all, and then it went after about 5-10 seconds, I even felt like I died in the middle of the intersection, it was a bit scary. I turned off the proximity sensor stuff, and the problem was solved. "off the line, this van is a dog" it is not, there is a problem with your specific van or the sensors. I hope you already figured it out.
Can you add rear air springs to smooth out the ride?
What’s the real world MPG? Great review.
Great video - do the front seats swivel around to the back at all?
What I would have done is tried one out before I purchased it to make sure I liked it.
We added a mattress topper for our Sprinter. Don't have the same model as yours, it's a 2012 RS Adventurous... but, I haven't noticed any problems with acceleration..... interestingly enough..
I noticed one thing in your video when you "slapped" your foot to the floor and the "delayed" response....I have found that pushing 1/2 way down on the accelerator gives me plenty of power off the line.....I normally don't drive it this way all the time, only when I need to accelerate quickly. Question, do you think that the acceleration issue is due to the fact that it's a 4WD... mine is a RWD.... and older 2011 Mercedes Benz 3 litre V6... same engine, 188 HP, 325 foot pounds of torque... and mine is the dual wheels and 22 feet 9 inches...I'm a lot heavier vehicle than yours.... Last thing is that my rear end ratio is 4.11.... perhaps MBZ changed this....a higher number means more performance on the low end.....
My top speed is governed I think around 85....?
Any thoughts on why there isn't an outside hose hookup? If we want to hook up to water at a campsite, the back doors have to remain open.
Needs a hybrid powertrain ;) You could use motors for early torque.
A new F150 hybrid with built in 1.6kw battery pack can have several 115 v AC outlets in the bed and even has a 30 amp outlet for your travel trailer. 7.2kw capacity and uses the engine to charge the batteries. Would make a nice tow vehicle for a smaller camper and you don't need to drag a generator with you.
@@jamesvelvet3612 although not a truck or van, I love my Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, plug in hybrid with 1500 watt outlets and multiple ways to charge the battery (level 2 charger, 110, regen, gas while driving or idle). Has been awesome to cook out of at MX tracks for my kid's races or to charge their electric MX bikes. I know Ford has a Transit van in Europe that is a plug in hybrid but they will only be offering the full EV version up here in Canada.
OWL I think Makes an Aftermarket Exhaust Reroute. (TRY WD40 for the squeak, or other lube)
How do you secure your 3 dogs while driving
If you registered the Revel in Colorado, how much are the yearly license plate registration fees? Thanks.
Good video! Why did you choose the revel over the storyteller? And did you finance it?
Bathroom he said
Do you have to keep the back door open if you want to stay connected to city water?
what was the price you paid?
$200,000 REVEL?
Somebody's NUTS.
Newbie : “ more storage than you know what to do with “. Haha, just wait buddy.
With 3 large dogs, so beside those good boys/girls themselves, you’ll always carry a fifteen-kilo bag of food, so the garage is all theirs.
Just wondering. Where do you store your clothes?
I actually really dislike the running boards. They definitely get in the way when doing any minor to moderate style off-roading.
Hi Kyle, how much maintenance cost do you get in a year or say 6months in that camper van? Thank you, sir.
Nice . 200k 😲 😱
Dec. 20th 2021 Thank you, for your accurate evaluation of your 2022 Winnebago Revel 4x4 I will agree with you, and that is It’s a good built… but a lot of up grades need to be added….. give & take Situation, I’ve looked at Lot of UA-cam videos & there are about TEN upgrades that are Essential, especially the current Suspension, system & power solar increase to (a) 2000 watt inverter lithium battery package increase amp. To; 600 amps also, water tank capacity by removing the little donut spare tire from underneath & mounting it to the rear back door & put in place EXTRA 21 gal. Tank of water That will add to the already 25 gal. Fresh water tank. Hammerhead front grill & witch pull system & seating bench inside the back… area, & add air compressor also, Compressor freezer, Now that should do it….. THX
Again for your up close & Personal evaluation….Stay Safe & Healthy out There…..
It will be so nice when we get EV RVs with expandable solar. Right now RVs use gas/diesel from propulsion and front HVAC, propane for heat/hot water/cooking, small batteries for A/C and electrical outlets. A large RV traction battery for all power will be the dream of the future, with no more propane and gas/diesel fill-ups. And with enough solar you can boondock for maybe 2 weeks to gain enough range to get to your next destination.
Great review. Best I’ve seen. It’s really annoying watching you play with your glasses. OCD?
Where are the ‘other’ ecu program reviews?
$200K?? Wow. That’s three nice Tesla’s. I hope you get a lot of views to pay for it. Not my cup of tea but I’m glad you like it.
This is a house with wheels and an engine. Why would you compare it to a Tesla? Or 3?
That's MSRP. Even in the current high-demand market for RVs, they sell significantly below MSRP. Much more so than with cars. Discounts of 20-40% are typical.
Also, if you get an RV that has the qualifications to be considered a dwelling (bathroom, kitchen, sleeping area) then you can deduct the financing interest paid on your taxes, just like a mortgage.
@@JonathanVanMatrePersonal that’s good to know. Wasn’t aware of the home benefit, my parents only owned pop up trailers as a kid never a powered vehicle.
I’m not saying it compares. If they want it 👍. I hope he does well with it. I follow his channel for his EV (road trips 😉) coverage. If he wants to change direction that’s fine. I’m sure there are others out there that like expensive RV’s too. Just not my cup of tea but who am I to say what he buys? It’s a free country.
@@CrankyOldNerd You can do it for trailers as well, as long as it qualifies as a primary or secondary residence.
All RVs are built like garbage. It is just a fact of life. Electrical cables that have been stapled through are common. Someone 'accidentally' failing to connect the generator to the vehicle, or better yet, leaving a disconnected fuel line hanging.
Or windows that apparently don't need the gasket to hold them in, or 'oops, we might have forgotten to bolt the house onto the chassis.'
Quality control is apparently one of those terms completely foreign to RV manufacturers.
Agree 100 percent in 99.9 of the RVs on the road. But you need to give credit to companies like Newell. Sure, their RVs cost millions but the quality is there. You can get a nice used Newell or a custom used Prevost for the price of this Winnebago.
I cannot believe the price of these RVs in the US. For the price of the Winnebago you can get a 170 here in the U.K. with top quality build, spec and layout for less money. I would have thought the US with its much bigger Off-road RV scene and seemingly endless number of builders would be cheaper. Also, in my limited experience of buying US gear of any kind generally it is better quality and cheaper than the U.K. …. I can’t work out why not the same with RVs?
I know that you've never touched on this but some of us would like to know if the van was built in a union shop.
what about the 44e? whats the difference between this revel and 44e? are they new additions?
What was the final price from General RV?