One PRO tip: Before you decide to wage war on some faction, and take their Town, do this: Before you declare war (or attack some of their troops)go to the target town. Buy all food, then declare war and start the siege. Garnison without food will die off in a matter of days and you have an easier job to take it. The next step is crucial. Once you take the town, before all caravans enter into town YOU sell all your food and earn a lot of money and gain huge XP.
This is a great strategy to use! I'm working on a world conquest right now and have used it a few times - It works VERY well. The only problem is the town is a bit weak once we take it, but that can be fixed in time :)
When you do the "Hostile Trader" and the town troops drop, don't attack. Let them Rebel, then attack. Once a Town Rebels, the Loyalty resets to 100. After you take it, you won't have to work as hard to restore it.
@@Strat-Guides Plus if you attack rebels the original faction won't have any problems with you cause if you attack the city before it rebels the entire kingdom is your enemy so yeah it's quite important
@@Strat-Guides You can actually make it a lot easier by selling the town a forged two-hander and draining the town's money to 0 at the same time you buy all the trade goods. That way caravans coming into the town can't offload any of their goods at all because the town can't afford to buy anything. You only have to buy everything up and do it again at noon, when the town's production produces new goods/money for the caravans to buy up/sell to again. Causing a rebellion isn't guaranteed though, if the AI decides to run festival and games/has a good governor, it takes forever. But the upshot of this is you don't lose money, since you can forge expensive two-handers and buy up junk weapons to smelt into more raw resources to turn into expensive two-handers. Good way to break a city, but it's time consuming.
@@Teufelsnachbar667 yes. But like I said it does take forever. As in the original video it's best to find a low level town already struggling with loyalty and food stocks. Drain the food stocks daily and force the loyalty levels down to starvation. Higher level towns will be much harder since the AI will have buildings and things to offset the loyalty loss. While you're at it hit the forge every day after you drain their goods and keep forging the best thing you can. I also buy up cheap weapons/armour to dump for troop XP (if you have the perk) or to smelt for crafting materials. Make sure the shop's money is the negative every day when the money rolls over and the town won't be able to buy anything from the caravans.
man you're a hustler. so many vids, so quickly. greatly helped me in calradia, but I realize now Ive been seduced by "everything has a price". Put 8 attribute in social bc of that, but it'll lever happen.
Thank you for watching them, it really helps me out a lot and I appreciate it! :D Haha yeah that's a really tempting perk to shoot for. Those last few levels of the trade grind are brutal too, but I think worth it.
Great guide - thank you ! You weren't kidding when you called the series the "Ultimate Guides". The experience and wisdom gained after viewing your guides (and reading the comments) equates to hundreds of hours of game time. Seeing how complete (and "Ultimate" your guides are... for your sake as a content creator, I hope Devs will make some changes. Otherwise you may eventually find yourself hard-pressed to find new content :) Good job!
Finally, the long awaited Trade guide! This guide is huge with a ton of info, but hopefully it's not too much! I did my best to chop out anything that wasn't absolutely necessary. Also, let me know what you think of the editing for the fight during the intro. It took a while to figure out, but I'm not sure if I like it or not... I'm curious how you feel about it - do more of it, don't care either way or never do it again?? Thank you as always for you support. I'll be working on the Intelligence skills next week, starting with Steward so stay tuned next Friday!
@@UnsoberIdiot to be fair, it takes a really long time to do all that anyhow so I'm not upset at all that most people don't like it lol saves me time in the future! I appreciate and value your feedback.
This is really impressive work. And not just this guide, but all your guides. Solid analysis and great, straightforward production packed with so much information that I find myself frequently stopping the playback and re-watching to take it all in. I've got 1700+ hours on Steam playing Bannerlord through the many iterations now and I can clearly confirm: Strat's guides ARE in fact Ultimate Guides. Top notch!
Wooo now that's a compliment! I appreciate the confidence builder, but I have to admit that I'm right there with you - I have a few thousand hours into the game and I learned so much in the making and research for each guide. I guess it makes a difference if you deliberately set out to test things rather than just play through. I've got a good one lined up for Friday on Steward, some really good info so stay tuned!
The hostile trader strategy was actually the cause of a near financial panic in 1907. I mean it didnt involve rebel gangs but just barely. A pair of financial brothers who owned a bank and were the founders of United Copper tried to corner the copper market by grabbing all the stock of United Copper, concocting a plan to basically speculate on it at a lower price and using insider trading to drive the price down before that(at least this is what I think the plan was.) The plan backfired, price went up, they were forced to cover the cost difference because speculation is just gambling, and when the plan failed the bank they ran also failed, they were ruined and they were unable to pay out to their customers so a domino effect happened. The situation was only bailed out when JP Morgan held a meeting with other top financial leaders and was able to "convince" them to help..... meaning he locked a group of bankers in with him and refused to let them go until they agreed to put up the money to stabilize the situation. He also put his personal money up to buy all the New York City Bonds to make sure the city did not become insolvent as during the panic people were cashing out their bonds as fast as they could, worried they would be worthless soon- this isnt blind panic, these people had all lived through the multiple financial crises of the late 1800s, including what would be known as the great depression had the 1929 crash not happened. Because of this the federal government was then able to step in to do the rest, but at the speed of bureaucracy there's no way they would have triaged the situation in time like Morgan was able to. Remember when bankers actually cared about people? Seems really foreign and almost fictional, doesn't it?
Thank you!! I plan on doing a guide on town and castle management and one of the chapters will be on newly conquered ones, so keep an eye out for that one.
I have a slow yet efficient strategy, buy pack animals (preferably mules because they are more expensive) and go to the city states that don't produce horses and sell the mules: 1. First gather about 3-4k mules, once you pass level 20 most Aserai and Khazuit horse farmers will have hundreds of mules, and then start your migration. 2. Sell the mules so that the city gold marker doesn't go in the negative, make sure it has no less then 0 - 20g. 3. DO NOT LEAVE THE CITY, wait in the city for about 2 days and buy back your mules. 4. Go to another city -state and repeat steps 1 - 3 SIDE NOTE: If you continue to find mules and pack horses that are around the 20-30g price range per animal you can buy then along the way and slaughter them for meat and sell it in cities that lack food. Also it helps if you are not at war with any faction and have around 100 troops to keep the looters and bandits away. This method is slow but once you're around 200 trade I found it to be the most efficient. And also easy.
Also need guide for 1. town-castle-village management, how to have lots of food, what building to prioritize , what does security, prosperity means 2.seige guide, late game 4 trebuchet does not seem to be enough, infantry gets stuck on the ladder while I am getting murdered 3.policy guide- best policies for world domination, which policy are must haves 4.vassal guide-how many fiefs are enough for a vassal, how to snatch every castle and town after victory from vassals for myself 5.game AI guide, the AI seems to have unlimited army, I destroy an army of 600 after few days they are with another army, 6.hostile faction guide (looters, mountain bandits)- tired of cleaning up my area , their spawning rate and requirements for spawning 7.faction guide. which faction is the most powerful in this current patch 8.speed guide, both party and individual
Thank you for watching! I have at least some of those ideas in my pipeline of videos to do in the near future and you have me a few more great ideas for other videos so much appreciated :)
From my experience (I just reached 300 trade on my current save) pack animals are one of the best trade goods, especially for early game. Buy them in khuzait and then roam across the map (not necessarily to aserai who have pretty cheap pack animals too) selling them. You need a decent army (tier 1 troops with minimum wage will do) to avoid herd penalty.
NIce, 300 takes some dedication! I usually get my pack animals from Battania because I keep forgetting to go to Khuzait area. Do you have a specific route you take after leaving Khuzait or just roam the whole world?
@@Strat-Guides I just roam around the world, of course buying and selling a lot of other stuff using the ~40k capacity from the herd because after some time in the game it's getting really random where you'll get a good price for pack animals. I mean it's never in khuzait of course :D at my current save I buy mules for less than 30 easily at khuzait and sell them for more than 60 (sometimes the price starts at 150-200) in literally random places across the map, most of the towns have the mule price set around 40 most of the time. When the game has already last some time, the economy is really varying from its initial state, so it's getting tricky to keep to a single good route, for example one of the best profit margins (working in big quantities which is obviously crucial) in my current save is selling beer to vladians or tools bought from sturgians to aserai (both at average ~50 margin per unit)
You and Flesson19 are great for mb2 community, you guys definitely deserve more subs... C'mon youtube algorithm bless this channel, also thank you for the work, your content is S tier
Yeah Flesson got me into UA-cam. I had watched his videos for about 6 months and got a ton of useful info from them and wanted to try my hand at it as well. He's a great guy!
@@Strat-Guides yes, both of you are great addition to the mb community, mb2 still young now, but will grow and I hope that you guys to be the leading spearhead, so much work and care into the videos, you guys goes real deep into the mechanics of the game, and this is gold... It's not a show/eye candy content like "what if 500 x unit goes against 500 x unit" is a real guide about stuff that matters and this is what is lacking regarding mb2 on UA-cam imo, well done man and thank you both
For players wanting a fast way to get to Trade 300 using the skills in your video... This can be done without leaving the city by “playing the market” - Ideally, you should have 50-100+ of each horse tier: pack animals (sumpter horses/mules); T1 Horses (riding horses); T2 Horses (war horses). Of course, it can be done with a single type of horse, but it’s easier to prepare for with several horse-types. - You will also need approx. 500k-1mil Dinar reserve (or smithing to recoup losses by selling weapons to the city) - Find a city with relatively high prices on horses categories (usually Vlandia or northern part of Battania) The procedure is fairly simple: 1. Sell to make profit: Sell each type of horse to the city while still “in the green” (still making money on the trade). End transaction. 2. Decrease prices: Sell all remaining horses to the city to reduce the price (The more horses you sell the lower the price will be for the next round and the more profits you will make). End transaction. 3. Increase demand/price: Buy all of the horses from the city to raise prices and prepare for your next round of selling. (This is where you will lose some money. It is possible to min/max quantities but it’s time consuming). End transaction. 4. Repeat the process. It’s important to end each transaction before starting the next one. The game calculates experience 1XP for every 2 Dinars in profit. By lowering the prices in Step2 and then raising the price in Step3 you will create maximum profit margin by for selling to city in Step1. Basically, it’s like going to Aserai lands, buying horses and returning to sell in Vlandia/Battania, but without leaving the city - time saved but some costs involved.
So let me make sure I understand this - you are pushing the price to the min and max and trading both sides? The price decreases with volume, but if you had infinite horses, you wouldn't get a negative number, so there is obviously a limit - are you suggesting you have enough trade goods (horses in this case) to hit that limit? Horses would be the perfect because the markup between buy and sell is the lowest in the game. (I saw your reddit post first, sorry for the duplicate response)
@@Strat-Guides there’s a limit and the more you sell - the less impact each successive unit makes. In practice, I use 100-250 horses/animals if each category. Of course, Aserai horses are the biggest money maker (so sell them first) and use other war horses to lower the general price.
@@stanp120 Sneaky. I like it. So you sell the aserai first and buy them back first, when the price is lowest/highest. This should also mean you can force the demand even in a city that's normally flooded with horses of a particular category. I'm currently doing an aserai horse run in vlandia, so I'll give this a try. edit: tried this out and it does work, though progress slows pretty dramatically after a while. I was still getting a level or two after each aserai horse sale even up to 125, but that's nowhere near the 4 or 6 levels I was getting each time at around a hundred skill. I got my best results selling about 15 aserai horses and then flooding the market with 40 or more other warhorses (had a hard time collecting more to try it). I'm guessing this would work best with imperial chargers as the secondary horse. The real benefit of this method is that it can be done over and over on the same day, potentially getting you up to 125 skill and extra renown much faster. Perhaps a slightly simpler version would be to still continue the trade route, but carry a bunch of imperial chargers to flood the azerai markets before buying their horses, then buy out all the warhorses in the target city before selling them, carrying those horses back to azerai lands and flooding their markets again. That would maximize the profits on the singular sale and should maximize trade xp. But this method does work, in game time, instantly. It occurs to me that the same thing could work for steel, since iron ore and all the ingots are also linked in price. Sell some fine steel from smelted pugios and then flood the market with crude iron or iron ore. I wonder how much profit that could net ... hmm. The horse trades are definitely better. Because of the way iron ore prices drop, I was only able to sell 6 fine steel ingots for 400, then buy them back for 250 after pouring 80 crude iron into the market. So that would take a while.
Bro for the record I liked the intro, however not if it took lots of time from you. Love your content man, and absolutely love the bonuses at the end of each vid. Keep up the good work!
I think the reason the intro took so long is because I have no clue what I'm doing haha I'm still learning all this stuff. I do plan on doing a full cinematic battle at some point, which I think would be pretty cool! I want to do a lot of first person perspective scenes of huge historical battles, lot's of editing to add in blood, screams, battle horns, etc. I think it will be pretty epic :D Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it!!
I got lucky. The northern Khuziat town was selling mules for 20 and had hundreds. Apparently the were shortages everywhere cause I went and sold most of it for 150, some were over 200.
Wow that's really low! I went to all the towns twice in my testing and I think I was in the mid 30's for both. I love the fact that they give more carry capacity and you can sell them off when you dump the goods.
Been watching your channel for awhile now and I am simply amazed at the amount of effort and work you put into these videos. Your knowledge and statistical expertise is incredible. Every time I watch one of your episodes I learn new techniques while gaining a better understanding of how this magnificent game works. Thank you for your labor of love that helps all of us.
1) 5:10 percentages were off you put .34% but said 3.4%. 2) 11:10 early game trading horses from Aserai to Vlandia/Battania is amazing, I can get 125 trade in just about 30 day easily and make 100k-200k even more when I buy other goods to take along, at early game starting in battannia, you can double your money trading mules in 3 days. 3) would have loved to see a section on perks as they are vital to a trader. but for a quick guide compared to my monster 90 minute video, well done. GET SOME SLEEP
It's definitely 0.34%, I must have misspoke in the voice over. In most of the tests that I ran, day 1 trading wasn't as effective as other methods I'm more familiar with. I'll have to grab some of the trade knowledge of yours! We should do a 25 day trade challenge, I bet that would be great fun and I would learn a lot from it. Yeah I think I put about 5 or 6 perks in there as quickly as I could, but It was running long so I decided to leave it at that. My plans for the future are to finish off the rest of the skills and then cover perks separately. My thoughts were doing them altogether would be too long and I would get very short view times. Not sure if that's a good excuse but I'm still learning.
@@Strat-Guides trade in battannia is easiest because seonon/car banseth have cheap mules and the other 3 towns pay alot for them so you can easily double or triple your money in 2-3 days, I have only tried trade only game once so I am sure there is a great way to get it going I would need to experiment some to find it but I feel that I could make it work. I am still trying to find ways to get 300 trade faster, I think I got it down to 500 days but I want it faster. But I am currently doing a 1,000 day money challenge only giving 100 day updates so maybe when I'm done you can accept my challenge
@@Flesson19 I was recording game play for my trade video and I made a new personal best. 300 Trade in 135 days! I posted an video on one exploit and have another I need to record. The new one may set a new record for 300 Trade.
Decided to try a trader run.. I've only done smithing since I love it, but it's still broke even in 1.7, so it's way too easy to fund an army and get endgame gear as a simple vassal/ merc.. I appreciate your content bro!
I know what you mean, I try to stay away from smithing when I can. Otherwise money is pointless lol It's actually a lot of fun trying to manage a budget etc. I'm working on the trade skill perks right now, will probably have it ready by the weekend because it's a big one and taking longer than expected but that should help out some! Thank you for watching :D
@@Strat-Guides I know! But I love making custom weapons! It's just too easy to rely on as a sole source of income. If they ever fixed it and added the ability to make your own armor/ repair weapons.. or branch off and make bow & arrows.. oh well. Maybe the mod community will rise to the occasion.
It's insane how good this is. I'm glad to see flesson comments as I was going to say almost exactly what he did but he saved me the trouble! Intro editing: I love almost any effects to highlight achievements on the battlefield. That said- strobing is not one I PERSONALLY like. I have some neurological issues and it can really bother my eyes and give me terrible headaches. But that's just me my dude. I really like about anything that makes it seem unique and makes good kills seem all the better. I do really like when you do the slow mo effect when you do something good in battle. It really highlights the achievement. Now get some needed sleep sir! And make sure your wife doesn't get too annoyed at you 😂😳🧠
Thank you! Yeah it seems like you're not the only one to say this - the slow motion from time to time send okay but the other stuff is maybe a little too much. I'm glad I experimented with it in a small section rather than doing a whole video and pissing people off haha
At 4:22 , the profit was 12.2% more if having level 300 against having level 1. This percentage depends on how much the normal profit you get from the transaction - if you buy with 10 and sell with only 11, the increase in profit due to trading level 300 is growing at 45% (sell price is 11.22, which returns 1,144,889) . If selling with 20, the increase in profit is lower (20.4 sell price, 2081616 total profit, which means +8%) . So it helps more if the sell price is not that high compared with the buy price. Buying with 10 and selling with 15 is a good average. Great video, I want to see the black box of mechanics cracked :)
I remember starting a new game after trading a lot in the other one. To my surprise, the prices were not reset (they don't have high margins when you start, at least the first time), but kept the values from the previous game.
That's a great point, I'll have to double check my math on that one. It all made sense as I was writing it anyhow lol but I think you have a good point there. Thank you for watching and commenting, I appreciate it!
This so SOOOO good. I've been trading since day 2 with this character and debating making the trek from my home in Vlandia to Aserai territory for $$. Definitely doing this ASAP.
Yeah it's definitely worth it! Sometimes you have to let some time pass for their inventory to thin out, but I think at least a couple trips per year is still very profitable.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear that! I was trying my best to condense the info down into something palatable. I think I had a 35 minute video when I first started editing and got it down to just over 15 minutes!
@@kennethyeo2688 fortunately my brain is wired to enjoy the data collecting lol I studied physics in college so I still have a little bit of that in me (never used it outside of school though). Different strokes for different folks I guess
So while I didn't find anything new here, maybe you'll be interested in what I was looking for: - How town cash reserve is estimated. I've noticed that cities where I sold overpriced smithing goods have much higher cash later on than ones in which I mostly sold legit goods. - Single town: measure garrison (quality as well as quantity), and Cornicopia-starve them. You can starve a city by drowning them in variety of foods. If food is in green, city will buy it off the market and boost prosperity, this is meant to balance hearth growth. But if you flood the market and then stop - the city will enter starvation process. What troops do they lose and how long until the process stops? - Village economy sabotage: buying local goods and selling horses, wine, furs, tools and velvet (probably others, but these were stated explicitly in patch notes) boosts the village. But what happens if you sell your equipment there? What happens if you leave the village with no goods to sell or no money? - Village economy maintenance: reverse of the above. When you enter a village as an army, other parties tend to buy out local food to 0, but only if it's a friendly village. Does it help to leave some food after such accidental raid, or does lack of food not affect the village? Village economy: when villagers travel to a city does a set of goods get generated to sell, and then what they purchase - or do they actually take goods out of a village, buy actual goods in city and try getting them to the village? High prosperity villages will often have ie cows, cheese and butter. Is it possible to give a boost by ie selling livestock where grain is made, how long if at all does livestock stay in village? Does selling non-rpduced food item increase the amount that'll be available to deliver to city? High/low prices - what are the effects on caravans, villages (connects to the above, do villagers actually SELL their items based on current pricing) if we take care to keep prices low/high within same spectrum. Taking Tyal as example - do we help the city by keeping the fish price at 9 or 12 over a given period of time? How if at all does long term price affect city prosperity and it's villages hearths? Will caravans still buy the 12g fish in same amount or would 9 price yield better results as goods instead of gold is measured for the city-agent? What if we only buy at city, what if we only buy at villages? I'm pretty amazed how much is already in the game, and TBH it actually makes me want to take a crack at modding just to implement some gameplay effects for which there is already foundation laid out within the game. Particular dream: equipment sold at villages that is then used by militia.
Wow there is a lot here, I'm going to have to come back later when I take a break from editing to reread this because you bring up some very interesting points that I would indeed like to look at further! Yeah modding is pretty intimidating, at least as someone who doesn't code or mess with game files often. It seems really fun though.
Should include the village trade xp exploit. Buy all of a trade good to raise the price, sell all to tank the price and buy them back to reset the purchase price, then take the cheap goods to a village of the town with hyper inflation. Sell your goods for max profit but no money to just buy trade xp. Like this, buy 3k grain and force the price from 3 den to 40 den. Sell at a close town to tank the grain back to 3 den, buy it back at 3 den. Take grain to village of original town for 30 den per grain. The Denars wont change at villages, although you dont get money. So sell 3k grain from 3den for 30 den each. That is 27 xp per grain. Raw 81 000 trade xp. Add the xp multiplier of say... 10 that's 810 000 trade xp. Do it with horses for easier profit.
Yeah I've heard of these, pretty crazy! They came out after I release the video, but I suspect they will get patched out soon given how popular those exploit videos are becoming. It's a brilliant strategy though, whoever thought of it was doing some next level plays stuff :P
Sweet, thank you for the sub! I've got quite a few more topics to cover, but if I miss anything feel free to let me know and I'll add it to my list to cover :) This week will be the crossbow perks and another episode of the world conquest speedrun.
@@Strat-Guides you completely changed how I play the game, really appreciate it. I’m interested in what you do with your companions. I liked your Frederick the great videos also, I love history and I think Frederick is forgotten a lot. You definitely got a fan, can’t wait for your next video
@@mrniko4178 I do plan on doing a guide just for companions, so that should be helpful! I know personally, I'm pretty terrible when it comes to companions as well. I always forget to hire more lol I'm uploading the next episode of ole Fritz right now :D He's great, I love watching documentaries on him and Prussia in general. They are always fun to play as in other games as well, especially EU4! Such an interesting history with the Hohenzollerns.
@@Strat-Guides That’s funny you say that, I recently just got interested in him and Prussia, I watched a bunch of documentaries about him on UA-cam then I went home and played a Brandenburg game on EU haha
@@mrniko4178 haha yeah Brandenburg into Prussia is the most fun! Getting Konigsberg is the hardest part, but once that's done it's smooth sailing. Gotta love those Prussian space Marines stack whipping armies bigger than they are haha
I updated a handful of the perk guides and nobody watched them, so it's hard to justify the time I need to spend on it :( They haven't changed much with trade skill and perks, but they did change the economy big-time since this video. My best advice is to stay away from mounts for trading as they seem to not do well now. Get a lot of inventory space (lots of cheap units with pack animals) and go town to town trading everything you can to level up quickly.
Hi, love your videos. great guide, but one thing i didnt see you cover (might be wrong). But I have experienced that you should sell to the town first then exit the vendor window and reenter it to buy goods, as trade skill seems to increase the higher the amout denars you earn is. As in you dont buy and sell at the same time but you do it in 2 seperate actions.
Thank you for watching! Oh that's interesting, I didn't test that as I wasn't aware that that was a thing. I'll have to see what difference it makes, I'll check it today. Thanks for the info!
@@havardherskedal2952 thank you for reminding me! So I started at one town and bought all good that were dark green. Went to another town and saved the game. I sold my goods, then exited, when back in and bought what I needed. The XP gain was +1 level to 251 and 29,047XP towards 252. Then I reloaded, bought all the dark green, then sold in the same screen without exiting and the XP was +1 level to 251 and 29,060. Almost the same XP, only off by 13 (with 10x multiplier so only 1.3XP). I wasn't happy so I did one final test - I got rid of everything and then went to a fresh town, bought everything they had, exited, went back in and sold them back their same goods and earned +1 level and 29,687XP. So it looks like when you buy out all the goods, there can still be a gap between the buy and sell price. I wasn't aware of this, but now we have another method to level up trade! Thank you for this, I'll have to add it in to the next guide when they patch trade :)
The flashing lights at the start almost gave me a seizure. I closed my eyes fast enough to avoid it. Btw I would recommend picking up the herd perk in the rider skill tree. It reduces heard penalty by 50% (rounded up.) It pretty much lets you stay around 5.1- 3 movement speed with as many horses, livestock, and pack animals as you can afford. This also means that your carry capacity is pretty much void, since you won't have to worry about the overburden penalty.
Yeah I only did that once, never again. Sorry about that! Yes!! That's probably my favorite perk from riding, it's soooo good (but also bugged lol it's not supposed to be like that). They calculate the overburdened reduction on 2 other perks by adding a debuff that scales WAY past the 0 point (1M lbs over weight will have -10000MS lol but min is still 1), but herding penalty is not the same even though it should be so I suspect that will get patched at some point. Until then, it's my favorite way to trade!
I appreciate it! I was a little worried this one would be a little too dense. I got a head start on the Steward guide for next week and I think it will be a bit less hectic so we can all have a little breather lol
another video idea is playthrough perks commenting on what perks to take for conquest, diplomatic, trade and other types of play, one for general, and perhaps benefits of some in combination, as well as a party character perk setup for playthroughs and for ones to employ then make lords. How about winning without force or trade? What if somebody wanted to rule the world as the Sturgian Surgeon by maximizing on health as their prime objective? Don't let the Prussians forget Brandenburg :) Does leading an army of your clan increase leadership as much as having outsiders in the army? In this case does size matter?
That's a good idea, I actually have plans for doing a series of builds with examples of how and when to put your character's points, what to do in the different stages of the game, etc. I'm still working on the planning phase for that though. That's an interesting idea, although I'm not sure how one would expand without trade or battles. Maybe through charm?? So the leadership XP only depends on how many troops are in the army and it doesn't matter who owns the troops. So call everyone you can when working for leadership XP :)
@@Strat-Guides So quantity counts in leadership, thanks. No mention of amount of armies formed so I suppose that does not matter. The idea of Sturgian Surgeon is just fun in making the main character as chief medical officer and having the best health in the game, they would do better in recovery, and healthier cities, perhaps needing fewer resources, and moral perks would be nice. Yes, charm would tag along with good health perhaps. I could see a perk if the main character is the best, scout, engineer, etc in the realm. When to allocate would be a good video. I hope you do it. Thanks for all your testing.
the golden trade route seneon to marunath buy mules and sumpter when passing sen and sell them in mar very easy to level up trading with little effort every time you pass that direction
i do what you call the hostile trade attack. I call it a Golden Wall attack, but i focus on causing the town to revolt. Then i attack the town when it is basically defenseless, doing it this way i dont end up at war with any major faction. The total number of enemy lord i end up fighting will be 3 at most, and they will be starting with small armies.
Haha the golden wall - I like that, it's much more visual of a name. I can imagine you strolling into town with bags and bags of gold :D Causing a rebellion is a really good idea, I probably should have tried for that one in this guide but it didn't occur to me at the time. Thanks for the idea!
@@Strat-Guides something to think about... a guide on city management and how to cause or prevent rebellions. I know from my many golden wall attacks is that the rebellion is prime to kick off when the militia outnumbers the garrison force.
@@Davonskevort I have that one near to top of my list for guides to do, so hopefully I can get to that one real soon! Okay got it, I think you told me that last time because I put it in my notes :)
14:08 You can also wait just outside the gates of the city and buy all the food from caravans and villager parties, that way the food you buy will cost a lot less and you can sell small amounts of food at night for massive profits, as neither villagers nor caravans tend to travel at night. You don't even need to buy the food back, the city will starve regardless, but you will always gain massive profits from every good you sell.
@@Strat-Guides I haven't done any testing myself either, but it seems like caravans use the average value of goods without any regards for supply or demand, similar to villagers.
@@TheDirtyShaman If that's the case, then I wonder if it makes sense to just sit outside a town poach stuff that the town is buying in the red? The amount of caravans that hit a city in one day is pretty crazy.
@@Strat-Guides It's pretty easy to manipulate a market if you completely control the supply of it, but you get limited by the amount of supplies a single town consumes. You can artificially inflate demand for a specific good by buying all the workshops in a town, changing their production to consume the item you want to monopolize and selling the workshops again.
@@TheDirtyShaman I remember reading about that a while back, I think they were planning on changing the AI behavior to switch the workshop back if you did that but it sounds like that isn't the case still lol
I have since then found a similar method :) You can carry a bunch of equipment to sell (smithed weapons, battle loot, etc.) and just make sure the town has 0 denars to spend. Once per day, they make 1/3 of their equilibrium balance so you just need to make sure you keep them at 0 food AND 0 denars. Same for when caravans visit, if they buy stuff you can just buy the food and then sell them more stuff. When they are at 0, they can't buy more food and will starve :D
Hi there, sorry I was away for a few months dealing with business issues. I did have it all on the discord server under the useful guide info section, but I'm also currently working on making a website to host everything so it's easier to find and better organized. I should have it up and running in the next month or two!
Eh. Pretty much what seemed obvious to me. Except for the horses, I never considered them a trade good. Still, if you want to have a complete set of guides, you might as well include this. :)
Yeah there are so many trade guide out there already, I tried to get as much data as I could to hopefully show parts of the economy people weren't aware of or stats on perks etc. For example, I didn't realize how bad wholesaler is compared to appraiser. I'll never pick that one again! Hopefully it wasn't boring at least There was one thing I didn't include due to irrelevance and time - level 300 roguery and trade give a huge boost to loot sales. Roguery gives way more loot at higher levels and level 300 trade boost sale price by nearly 40%, so you can get huge money from a single battle.
Love the Jeff Bezos character xD Horses are indeed good for trading but too many horses implies a herd penalty on campaign speed though, so I guess it will be really annoying in some cases, right? (like you are on a commercial run, but your kingdom is suddenly attacked by a powerful neighbour, you have to get home the quickiest way possible) Anyway interesting videos. Thanks for the work :)
Lol I never knew Jeff was so good with a two hander :) That's a great point, at which point it might make sense to take a loss and dump the extra horses if you are being chased. Thanks! I have the final video of this series set for Friday release - Engineering. Stay tuned!
In my latest run I got started with trading horses. I ended up accidentally buying about 3500 sumpter horses for around 8-30 each and proceeded to sell them for ridiculous prices after crawling across the map towards valandia
On the whole seller opinion, if you aren't focusing trade, appraiser is superior since it increases loot profits, if you are pumping trade to buy fiefs, whole seller is way better since it increases xp gain
I really like appraiser, especially if you are doing a roguery build. You pretty much get close to double the sellable value from battle loot! Agreed, Whole seller is good for those trader focused games.
Hi great video and excellent analysis, i appreciated your work for quite some time now. but i wonder what programm did you used for making the analysis, could you share it? thank you in advance keep up the good work that you put out for us have a nice day brother
I started a Discord channel and posted ALL of the data from each guide there! Head over to the channel: discord.gg/77uHKy2P Click on the section: Useful-guide-info, at the very top you'll see the trade guide. There are a bunch of collapsible buttons, go to the last one labeled data. If i recall, that specific one is labeled "whole world economics". I also have the other ones showing production by faction which is pretty cool too! Thank you for watching the guides!
@@Strat-Guides Strat somehow when I click on discord link, got an error message saying invalid or replaced. What should I do? Really want to have a hand all those products data, tried myself collecting those data but too much overwhelming
@@DucNguyen-Dalexa I'm not sure why it's not working. Try this one: discord.gg/kFdJqsGU If that doesn't work, you can message me on Discord directly and I can send you an invite. Strat Gaming#6927
It's been a while since I subbed to a channel. Here ya go. On a side note, do you have any thoughts about the better areas to set up a workshop? Would it be better to set up a Wine workshop in a high grape density area, or lower density area? Legit wondering.
Thank you! I'll keep the guides coming so hopefully I can continue to earn the sub moving forward as well : ) That's a tricky one... I feel like I've tried so many combinations, but results feel random. I have not done concrete testing, so I can't say for sure. Flesson19 has a great video each patch where he tests each workshop in every town so you know which one produces well. I'll probably do my own workshop video at some point, but more just testing the mechanics of it rather than a practical guide because I can't touch his work - it's very good. ua-cam.com/video/fpFpxfnE65U/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Flesson19
Smash a like when i see a new guide from Strat, these are amazing just because of the effort that he puts into cration! Such great content man, good luck in everything
Lol I'm really intrigued by your question, but I have no clue what you mean by Airtable play?? It sounds like I'm either going to look like a genius or a complete idiot, but I'm good with either outcome haha Can you elaborate for me please?
I just googled it and I know exactly what you're referring to - turns out I'm an idiot in the end haha but the software I was using is called Notion, which is similar to Airtable from what I can tell. Notion is free, so I'm sure it's much simpler than airtable. I use it for a lot of things actually, from managing all of my projects, todo lists, tracking business KPI's, personal fitness stuff, etc. so It's pretty flexible. I've used it as a CRM in the past as well, although I gotten out of that business since then.
With a strategy of doing bare minimal fighting, arena practice fights are far more efficient than tournaments for early game money. Far easier and faster wins.
@@Strat-Guides It's 250 denars per win. As you mentioned, there is no traveling requirement to do it. There is also the added benefit of not needing to deal with armored opponents, which can be a deterrent with low weapon skills. A more even playing field for a new character. And the way the AI behaves, it's pretty easy to avoid most of the fighting (maybe needing to fight 3 or 4 on average) then swoop in and beat the last guy standing for an easy 250. Imperial arenas are especially good for this strategy, since their shape makes it easy to avoid most of the combat by standing on one end of them. This always worked nicely for me to get some easy seed money to start with.
12:26 when you say "sell red" you mean "red in the buyer's inventory" not red in the player's inventory, right? If you have Trader Level 50, then my understanding is: items which have a price that is above average will be listed as red in the traders inventory. However, if the player purchased those same items at lower prices then the price in the player's inventory for the same commodity will be listed in green in the player's inventory. So my rule of thumb was "buy green from trader inventory / sell green from player inventory" and using that I seemed to be doing pretty well in terms of my total assets growing, so either I was getting lucky somehow or else I'm misunderstanding what you are saying in your video (or else they changed how the relative values are displayed). This is one aspect of TW's design I find unnecessarily vague. The first function that is unlocked with trader skill is that profitable items (in one's inventory when in the trade screen) are listed as green. This shade of green gets lighter (less vibrant) as the price approaches the price at which the commodity was purchased (or else the "average" price for the stack if the stack comprises portions which were purchased at different prices). I believe this functionality is unlocked at level 25? I'm almost certain that this is how that level of trading UI works as I've observed it. Then when you get to Level 50, you unlock the "Item prices shown relative to average" (which presumably means: the median or mean price for a commodity for the ENTIRE game world at any given time is compared to the list price for the commodity in the trade screen and then the characters are displayed in different shades depending on how much lesser or greater the price is compared to the average: green meaning price is low; yellow approximately average; red above average.
Yeah exactly, sorry I should have clarified that better. Essentially green is a good buy if it's on the town's side and red is great to sell if it's your own inventory.
Yeah I got a lot of complaints for that, so I never did it again :( I mostly just do specialized combat footage now without a ton of editing for the intro to keep it simple.
Just take around 1000 mules 500 sumpter horses ho to a village that buys the mules for a big profit sell them even if they give you just 1000 denars buy the mules back with forged weapons go to the nearest city sell the mules then re enter the trade menu put in the sumpter horses take the mules in to your inventory and then the sumpter horses now you bought the mules for a smaller price now go back to the village and do the same. I did this and in 15 minutes I've gone from lvl 5 trade to 300
Yeah that's a good one! Saved a ton of time grinding. I try to not cover exploits in my videos since the assumption is TW will patch them out quickly and it will be a dead part of the video.
my only question is for the green for sales, when I buy products at a green price its usually expensive, and when I sell them on a red price its usually cheap, Mules that I bought for 140, can sell them at 61 and 61 is in red (also the mules were too expensive but I needed these)
So green on the buy side indicated the price is lower than the world's average and green on the selling side indicates that there is profit relative to what you bought the item for. If your mules are lighting up green still based on those prices, you might have bought some at a really good price before you bought the 140 ones and it's still a good enough price to make money. For example, if I buy 99 mules at 50 and then 1 at 140, it will cost average them out, meaning your average purchase price will be something like 51, so even selling for 61 will still yield a profit. I hope that makes sense!
@@Strat-Guides Jeff Bezos?! It's not my fault that King Derthert has decided to levy 0 federal tariffs in Vlandian territory. On a more serious note, I only have the gog version of the game so could only try this on 1.6.3 but I changed every workshop in Calradia to smithy. Turns out when you own the only brewery in the entire game you make a profit of 1k per day on it. Pretty nuts.
@@yoloswaggins2161 I wonder who is more Savage, Gerthert or Bezos? wow that's a lot in the current patch! I think most are giving 150-250 at most lol nice one!
You made me second guess myself lol I had to load up to verify! I do tend to make mistakes so thank you for keeping me honest - Indeed there are no grapes in Aserai lands( at least in patch 1.6.2). They do have olives, which has a symbol very similar to grapes, but the green is much darker than the one they use for grapes. They also have a ton of dates as well. Thank you for watching!!
Smithing would like to have a word with you... Lol joking aside, for me personally, I think it's the 2nd best way to earn money quickly in the game. However, when they fix smithing so that you can't get end game crafting materials from day one, then I think trade will reign supreme. I don't generally do that many trading starts, so i'm curious to hear your method? The numbers your state are really good!
@@Strat-Guides it really depends on if you can get good parts, i can agree. however-its much easier to go and buy 1k of mules or horses and triple your profit with every buy-sell cycle. and thats like 2-3 minutes in the game you can already rake in money. smithing is of course absolutely broken, BUT it takes real life time, meaning early game is faster for a bit with trading, and then changing strat to smithing. Also, high price goods are the worst to trade. best are horses, lifestock and mid price goods, in cases of tools, iron, beer or dates you can easily get 400% return without any perks if you know where to sell.
@@Strat-Guides also, trading regular goods has another effects-it can seriously help with prosperity of cities OR with draining cities of prosperity. Using smithing items to buy out whole cities will inevitably hit prosperity because they wont have ability to sell your OP smithing items to caravans so those stay in cities forever, collecting dust, resulting in hampered ability to buy food for example.
@@---ii8hl Can't argue with that, plus with the extra mules you can carry a literal ton of other trade goods along the way. At some point they have to address smithing, so I think it will become even more of a late game thing. I never realized how good livestock are for trading until doing this guide! I just wish they posted the same profit markings like they do with trade goods (when you get the first perk). I think that's what messed me up.
like the vid but imo smithing is still way better. U just need to get the right parts and can easily sell 1 sword for 38k. Only downside is u have to travel from town to town
Hang on, at 12:25 you say 'red is the best' for selling. But that clearly isn't, perhaps not anymore? I dunno, I've just started learning the whole trading thing in this game, but all the items that have a red price in my inventory when in a town are much lower than what they are at green in other towns? Same when buying, red = high price (don't buy at red, costs too much). They probably updated it so a green price when buying = cheap, and when selling the green = making the most money.
Have you noticed some nonsense concerning average price et marked %? Multiple times, when I buy a certain quantity of the same good, while the price increase as it should, the marked % goes backward. For exemple: starting price of oil is 30d, being market at -50% but when I slide up to buy more, this % will go to -60%/-70% even if the price is actually increasing. Ps: I did a clean install just to make sure and the nonsense still persist.
Hm... I can't say that I've come across that one myself. Did you notice if the market was actually doing that or if perk was just bugged? I'm curious to see if there was some sort of connection between buying it in that town and it effecting prices everywhere (think quantum entanglement lol) or if it was just the perk not calculating properly.
@@kneedeep185 Don't worry, I got more TW Blackbox for Friday coming up lol and more than one! Thanks for the continued support, it's really helping out a lot and I appreciate it!
Hi Redridge! Thanks for watching :) So when you hover your mouse over an item and you see the pop up menu to the left, the price will either be red, yellow/orange or green. When you're looking to buy, you want to buy something that is green, which means the average buying price is below the average. If you hover your cursor over the green price, you'll see another pop up saying how much below the average price it is. It's actually a statistic that the game gives us for free - it's pretty OP to be honest lol I hope that helps!
What's with spice? Are we heading for Dune mods? Helps us be aware of real world price manipulation that is happening , a different kind of conflict hurting the common people. It would be interesting if TW put something in rewarding market fairness to the populace.
Haha the spice! You get those from clearing out bandits from towns sometimes, but I don't think they really do anything. It would be cool if you could use it as extra boost to morale with food. Yeah they could really do a lot with the economy, especially as it relates to the common people. Thank you for watching!!
@@Strat-Guides It would be interesting if a special commodity such as spice could be introduced, worth more than its weight in gold. perhaps making silk from something other than cotton? A serious question, how to remove the criminal element from your town? Yes fight them, let them suffer for lack of recruits or weapons, does buying out their business get rid of some? Can some be brought back to a legal lifestyle? It would be interesting to find anti criminal groups from vigilantes to true honest do gooders. Yes your videos are the best out there, not hype, just the facts in an orderly fashion. How did you survive UCB?
You will only get XP for items you personally bought and sold for a profit. The game logs your purchase price and tracks it when you sell, so if you steal stuff from a village or loot from a battle, it will not count. Just stick to trade goods and animals since equipment doesn't change price throughout the entire campaign and map.
It makes me sad that there isn't more intelligence to the town markets. Being able to starve a settlement by constantly buying all their food should not be possible.
I think it should be kind of possible but not nearly as easy as it is to do now. If you think about it, the only time people wouldn't be willing to sell food at all is when there's barely any left plus they don't have enough. If they aren't under siege or in a famine I feel like most people would be willing to sell their food at extraordinary prices even if they don't have much. So essentially what I mean is that, if you're buying a town out of it's food reserves it should become prohibitively expensive to do so as more and more people run out.
If I buy a workshop. Change it and later give it up. Will it revert to the original shop? Or remain what I change it to? And will it change later if the AI realises all of their shops sell the same product.
Great question!! I know I've done it before and they didn't change it so I decided to load up a game and try it out. I bought all the shops in Balgard, turned them into Silversmiths, waited a few months (they were basically making 0, 0 & 17 denars per day by the end lol) and then sold them all. I waited a full year and they were still silversmiths! So you can still go around, buying up shops and ruining the market. You could be the only one with beer workshops in your towns and dominate ;)
So I think I’m not selling in high enough quantities but I sell armor, horses, food items all the time. I have 1 caravan and the only time my trade xp went up was from buying and selling for trade rumors within a very quick amount of time. I tried selling iron, steel, wrought iron bars. Which I saw as highlighted “green” and my trade xp did not go up after selling 5 each. So what am I doing wrong? Also on Xbox if that matters
I don't think you can get trade XP from selling gear (weapons, armor, arrows, etc.) because the price is pretty much the same across the board so there is no margin. I would focus on trade good and you'll probably need high volume to even make a dent. Trade XP is a real grind unfortunately.
I just checked it right now - it still works the same way as in the guide! Dark Green is good profits, light green is small profit, yellow is break even, red is losing money.
What about workshops? That is my biggest question on this game, how does it really work? Because i have tried many different ways but it seems that they really only have a few worthwhile workshops to have, just like in the first game.
That's a tough subject!! I've done just some basic tinkering with workshops and it's really hard to decipher the results. They can fluctuate so much depending on which caravans are coming, who the owner of the town is at war with, which villages were raided, etc. I do plan on doing a guide testing the workshop mechanics but the problem is they seem to change from patch to patch. Flesson19 has some really good videos on workshops that he does with each update patch, I recommend checking his video out!
I like that last part about the hostile trade, i used a similar method to get settlements without causing wars (pre kingdom) I have a question, i’ve been super frustrated lately on trying to start my own kingdom but the sudden pouring of war declarations and insanely high tribute payments really make me go back to a previous save How long would it take to achieve say 10 million denars? Currently im at 400k with about four settlements, and five workshops - i want to get good with trading to achieve this money
Abuse blacksmithing. I got up to 14 million denars in a couple years blacksmithing from city to city while playing the rest of the game. You van make polearms with a couple steel that sell for 12k. I have like 150 of these in my inventory at all times. There is a star falchion that requires a couple iron and sells for like 8k lol.
One PRO tip: Before you decide to wage war on some faction, and take their Town, do this: Before you declare war (or attack some of their troops)go to the target town. Buy all food, then declare war and start the siege. Garnison without food will die off in a matter of days and you have an easier job to take it. The next step is crucial. Once you take the town, before all caravans enter into town YOU sell all your food and earn a lot of money and gain huge XP.
This is a great strategy to use! I'm working on a world conquest right now and have used it a few times - It works VERY well. The only problem is the town is a bit weak once we take it, but that can be fixed in time :)
Wow, that is absolutely evil and I will employ this strategy immediately.
@@ether23-23 Lol make sure you laugh like Mr Burns from the Simpsons as you do it :D
That is dirty and I love it
@@Strat-Guides Excellent heheheh 😈....Meow
When you do the "Hostile Trader" and the town troops drop, don't attack. Let them Rebel, then attack. Once a Town Rebels, the Loyalty resets to 100. After you take it, you won't have to work as hard to restore it.
That's a great point, much easier to take a city from rebels. A lot less mess to clean up after the battle lol
@@Strat-Guides Plus if you attack rebels the original faction won't have any problems with you cause if you attack the city before it rebels the entire kingdom is your enemy so yeah it's quite important
@@Strat-Guides You can actually make it a lot easier by selling the town a forged two-hander and draining the town's money to 0 at the same time you buy all the trade goods. That way caravans coming into the town can't offload any of their goods at all because the town can't afford to buy anything. You only have to buy everything up and do it again at noon, when the town's production produces new goods/money for the caravans to buy up/sell to again.
Causing a rebellion isn't guaranteed though, if the AI decides to run festival and games/has a good governor, it takes forever. But the upshot of this is you don't lose money, since you can forge expensive two-handers and buy up junk weapons to smelt into more raw resources to turn into expensive two-handers. Good way to break a city, but it's time consuming.
@@JohannKwan Does that mean I can basically form a kingdom without declaring war on that faction ?
@@Teufelsnachbar667 yes. But like I said it does take forever. As in the original video it's best to find a low level town already struggling with loyalty and food stocks. Drain the food stocks daily and force the loyalty levels down to starvation. Higher level towns will be much harder since the AI will have buildings and things to offset the loyalty loss.
While you're at it hit the forge every day after you drain their goods and keep forging the best thing you can. I also buy up cheap weapons/armour to dump for troop XP (if you have the perk) or to smelt for crafting materials.
Make sure the shop's money is the negative every day when the money rolls over and the town won't be able to buy anything from the caravans.
man you're a hustler. so many vids, so quickly. greatly helped me in calradia, but I realize now Ive been seduced by "everything has a price". Put 8 attribute in social bc of that, but it'll lever happen.
Thank you for watching them, it really helps me out a lot and I appreciate it! :D
Haha yeah that's a really tempting perk to shoot for. Those last few levels of the trade grind are brutal too, but I think worth it.
Great guide - thank you !
You weren't kidding when you called the series the "Ultimate Guides". The experience and wisdom gained after viewing your guides (and reading the comments) equates to hundreds of hours of game time.
Seeing how complete (and "Ultimate" your guides are... for your sake as a content creator, I hope Devs will make some changes. Otherwise you may eventually find yourself hard-pressed to find new content :)
Good job!
Thank you for watching! I appreciate the support and I have a ton more topics to cover before I run out, so stay tuned : )
Finally, the long awaited Trade guide! This guide is huge with a ton of info, but hopefully it's not too much! I did my best to chop out anything that wasn't absolutely necessary.
Also, let me know what you think of the editing for the fight during the intro. It took a while to figure out, but I'm not sure if I like it or not... I'm curious how you feel about it - do more of it, don't care either way or never do it again??
Thank you as always for you support. I'll be working on the Intelligence skills next week, starting with Steward so stay tuned next Friday!
I vote against the editing. Excessive, needless, and might harm some people.
@@UnsoberIdiot to be fair, it takes a really long time to do all that anyhow so I'm not upset at all that most people don't like it lol saves me time in the future! I appreciate and value your feedback.
Can I have the link for the data you gather there?
@@Adam89111 Sorry about that! discord.gg/48Tpe9dKH9
This is really impressive work. And not just this guide, but all your guides. Solid analysis and great, straightforward production packed with so much information that I find myself frequently stopping the playback and re-watching to take it all in. I've got 1700+ hours on Steam playing Bannerlord through the many iterations now and I can clearly confirm: Strat's guides ARE in fact Ultimate Guides. Top notch!
Wooo now that's a compliment! I appreciate the confidence builder, but I have to admit that I'm right there with you - I have a few thousand hours into the game and I learned so much in the making and research for each guide. I guess it makes a difference if you deliberately set out to test things rather than just play through.
I've got a good one lined up for Friday on Steward, some really good info so stay tuned!
The hostile trader strategy was actually the cause of a near financial panic in 1907. I mean it didnt involve rebel gangs but just barely.
A pair of financial brothers who owned a bank and were the founders of United Copper tried to corner the copper market by grabbing all the stock of United Copper, concocting a plan to basically speculate on it at a lower price and using insider trading to drive the price down before that(at least this is what I think the plan was.) The plan backfired, price went up, they were forced to cover the cost difference because speculation is just gambling, and when the plan failed the bank they ran also failed, they were ruined and they were unable to pay out to their customers so a domino effect happened. The situation was only bailed out when JP Morgan held a meeting with other top financial leaders and was able to "convince" them to help..... meaning he locked a group of bankers in with him and refused to let them go until they agreed to put up the money to stabilize the situation. He also put his personal money up to buy all the New York City Bonds to make sure the city did not become insolvent as during the panic people were cashing out their bonds as fast as they could, worried they would be worthless soon- this isnt blind panic, these people had all lived through the multiple financial crises of the late 1800s, including what would be known as the great depression had the 1929 crash not happened. Because of this the federal government was then able to step in to do the rest, but at the speed of bureaucracy there's no way they would have triaged the situation in time like Morgan was able to.
Remember when bankers actually cared about people? Seems really foreign and almost fictional, doesn't it?
In Soviet Russia, banks bail out you! In Amerikkka, we bail out banks!?!?
Why did I just get slapped with niche, detailed historical fiduciary knowledge on a video game strategy guide? Thank you for the education, my man.
@@NonviableaccountI think they were giving a historical lesson of what to do in order to ruin the enemy.
Your guides are the best! Can you do one how to manage a newly captured settlement??
Thank you!! I plan on doing a guide on town and castle management and one of the chapters will be on newly conquered ones, so keep an eye out for that one.
I have a slow yet efficient strategy, buy pack animals (preferably mules because they are more expensive) and go to the city states that don't produce horses and sell the mules:
1. First gather about 3-4k mules, once you pass level 20 most Aserai and Khazuit horse farmers will have hundreds of mules, and then start your migration.
2. Sell the mules so that the city gold marker doesn't go in the negative, make sure it has no less then 0 - 20g.
3. DO NOT LEAVE THE CITY, wait in the city for about 2 days and buy back your mules.
4. Go to another city -state and repeat steps 1 - 3
SIDE NOTE: If you continue to find mules and pack horses that are around the 20-30g price range per animal you can buy then along the way and slaughter them for meat and sell it in cities that lack food. Also it helps if you are not at war with any faction and have around 100 troops to keep the looters and bandits away.
This method is slow but once you're around 200 trade I found it to be the most efficient. And also easy.
Also need guide for 1. town-castle-village management, how to have lots of food, what building to prioritize , what does security, prosperity means 2.seige guide, late game 4 trebuchet does not seem to be enough, infantry gets stuck on the ladder while I am getting murdered 3.policy guide- best policies for world domination, which policy are must haves 4.vassal guide-how many fiefs are enough for a vassal, how to snatch every castle and town after victory from vassals for myself 5.game AI guide, the AI seems to have unlimited army, I destroy an army of 600 after few days they are with another army, 6.hostile faction guide (looters, mountain bandits)- tired of cleaning up my area , their spawning rate and requirements for spawning 7.faction guide. which faction is the most powerful in this current patch 8.speed guide, both party and individual
Thank you for watching! I have at least some of those ideas in my pipeline of videos to do in the near future and you have me a few more great ideas for other videos so much appreciated :)
From my experience (I just reached 300 trade on my current save) pack animals are one of the best trade goods, especially for early game. Buy them in khuzait and then roam across the map (not necessarily to aserai who have pretty cheap pack animals too) selling them. You need a decent army (tier 1 troops with minimum wage will do) to avoid herd penalty.
NIce, 300 takes some dedication! I usually get my pack animals from Battania because I keep forgetting to go to Khuzait area. Do you have a specific route you take after leaving Khuzait or just roam the whole world?
@@Strat-Guides I just roam around the world, of course buying and selling a lot of other stuff using the ~40k capacity from the herd because after some time in the game it's getting really random where you'll get a good price for pack animals. I mean it's never in khuzait of course :D at my current save I buy mules for less than 30 easily at khuzait and sell them for more than 60 (sometimes the price starts at 150-200) in literally random places across the map, most of the towns have the mule price set around 40 most of the time. When the game has already last some time, the economy is really varying from its initial state, so it's getting tricky to keep to a single good route, for example one of the best profit margins (working in big quantities which is obviously crucial) in my current save is selling beer to vladians or tools bought from sturgians to aserai (both at average ~50 margin per unit)
You and Flesson19 are great for mb2 community, you guys definitely deserve more subs... C'mon youtube algorithm bless this channel, also thank you for the work, your content is S tier
Yeah Flesson got me into UA-cam. I had watched his videos for about 6 months and got a ton of useful info from them and wanted to try my hand at it as well. He's a great guy!
@@Strat-Guides yes, both of you are great addition to the mb community, mb2 still young now, but will grow and I hope that you guys to be the leading spearhead, so much work and care into the videos, you guys goes real deep into the mechanics of the game, and this is gold... It's not a show/eye candy content like "what if 500 x unit goes against 500 x unit" is a real guide about stuff that matters and this is what is lacking regarding mb2 on UA-cam imo, well done man and thank you both
never click on a video faster. Love this series!
Lol it must have been the Jeff Bezos thumbnail :p
Thank you for watching!!
For players wanting a fast way to get to Trade 300 using the skills in your video...
This can be done without leaving the city by “playing the market”
- Ideally, you should have 50-100+ of each horse tier: pack animals (sumpter horses/mules); T1 Horses (riding horses); T2 Horses (war horses). Of course, it can be done with a single type of horse, but it’s easier to prepare for with several horse-types.
- You will also need approx. 500k-1mil Dinar reserve (or smithing to recoup losses by selling weapons to the city)
- Find a city with relatively high prices on horses categories (usually Vlandia or northern part of Battania)
The procedure is fairly simple:
1. Sell to make profit: Sell each type of horse to the city while still “in the green” (still making money on the trade). End transaction.
2. Decrease prices: Sell all remaining horses to the city to reduce the price (The more horses you sell the lower the price will be for the next round and the more profits you will make). End transaction.
3. Increase demand/price: Buy all of the horses from the city to raise prices and prepare for your next round of selling. (This is where you will lose some money. It is possible to min/max quantities but it’s time consuming). End transaction.
4. Repeat the process.
It’s important to end each transaction before starting the next one. The game calculates experience 1XP for every 2 Dinars in profit. By lowering the prices in Step2 and then raising the price in Step3 you will create maximum profit margin by for selling to city in Step1.
Basically, it’s like going to Aserai lands, buying horses and returning to sell in Vlandia/Battania, but without leaving the city - time saved but some costs involved.
So let me make sure I understand this - you are pushing the price to the min and max and trading both sides? The price decreases with volume, but if you had infinite horses, you wouldn't get a negative number, so there is obviously a limit - are you suggesting you have enough trade goods (horses in this case) to hit that limit?
Horses would be the perfect because the markup between buy and sell is the lowest in the game.
(I saw your reddit post first, sorry for the duplicate response)
@@Strat-Guides there’s a limit and the more you sell - the less impact each successive unit makes.
In practice, I use 100-250 horses/animals if each category. Of course, Aserai horses are the biggest money maker (so sell them first) and use other war horses to lower the general price.
@@stanp120 Sneaky. I like it. So you sell the aserai first and buy them back first, when the price is lowest/highest. This should also mean you can force the demand even in a city that's normally flooded with horses of a particular category. I'm currently doing an aserai horse run in vlandia, so I'll give this a try.
edit: tried this out and it does work, though progress slows pretty dramatically after a while. I was still getting a level or two after each aserai horse sale even up to 125, but that's nowhere near the 4 or 6 levels I was getting each time at around a hundred skill. I got my best results selling about 15 aserai horses and then flooding the market with 40 or more other warhorses (had a hard time collecting more to try it). I'm guessing this would work best with imperial chargers as the secondary horse. The real benefit of this method is that it can be done over and over on the same day, potentially getting you up to 125 skill and extra renown much faster. Perhaps a slightly simpler version would be to still continue the trade route, but carry a bunch of imperial chargers to flood the azerai markets before buying their horses, then buy out all the warhorses in the target city before selling them, carrying those horses back to azerai lands and flooding their markets again. That would maximize the profits on the singular sale and should maximize trade xp. But this method does work, in game time, instantly.
It occurs to me that the same thing could work for steel, since iron ore and all the ingots are also linked in price. Sell some fine steel from smelted pugios and then flood the market with crude iron or iron ore. I wonder how much profit that could net ... hmm. The horse trades are definitely better. Because of the way iron ore prices drop, I was only able to sell 6 fine steel ingots for 400, then buy them back for 250 after pouring 80 crude iron into the market. So that would take a while.
Bro for the record I liked the intro, however not if it took lots of time from you.
Love your content man, and absolutely love the bonuses at the end of each vid.
Keep up the good work!
I think the reason the intro took so long is because I have no clue what I'm doing haha I'm still learning all this stuff. I do plan on doing a full cinematic battle at some point, which I think would be pretty cool! I want to do a lot of first person perspective scenes of huge historical battles, lot's of editing to add in blood, screams, battle horns, etc. I think it will be pretty epic :D
Thank you for the support, I really appreciate it!!
I got lucky. The northern Khuziat town was selling mules for 20 and had hundreds.
Apparently the were shortages everywhere cause I went and sold most of it for 150, some were over 200.
Wow that's really low! I went to all the towns twice in my testing and I think I was in the mid 30's for both. I love the fact that they give more carry capacity and you can sell them off when you dump the goods.
Been watching your channel for awhile now and I am simply amazed at the amount of effort and work you put into these videos. Your knowledge and statistical expertise is incredible. Every time I watch one of your episodes I learn new techniques while gaining a better understanding of how this magnificent game works. Thank you for your labor of love that helps all of us.
I appreciate the kind words! Thanks for letting me know, it's good to hear my videos are being helpful in some way :)
1) 5:10 percentages were off you put .34% but said 3.4%. 2) 11:10 early game trading horses from Aserai to Vlandia/Battania is amazing, I can get 125 trade in just about 30 day easily and make 100k-200k even more when I buy other goods to take along, at early game starting in battannia, you can double your money trading mules in 3 days. 3) would have loved to see a section on perks as they are vital to a trader. but for a quick guide compared to my monster 90 minute video, well done. GET SOME SLEEP
It's definitely 0.34%, I must have misspoke in the voice over.
In most of the tests that I ran, day 1 trading wasn't as effective as other methods I'm more familiar with. I'll have to grab some of the trade knowledge of yours! We should do a 25 day trade challenge, I bet that would be great fun and I would learn a lot from it.
Yeah I think I put about 5 or 6 perks in there as quickly as I could, but It was running long so I decided to leave it at that. My plans for the future are to finish off the rest of the skills and then cover perks separately. My thoughts were doing them altogether would be too long and I would get very short view times. Not sure if that's a good excuse but I'm still learning.
@@Strat-Guides trade in battannia is easiest because seonon/car banseth have cheap mules and the other 3 towns pay alot for them so you can easily double or triple your money in 2-3 days, I have only tried trade only game once so I am sure there is a great way to get it going I would need to experiment some to find it but I feel that I could make it work. I am still trying to find ways to get 300 trade faster, I think I got it down to 500 days but I want it faster. But I am currently doing a 1,000 day money challenge only giving 100 day updates so maybe when I'm done you can accept my challenge
@@Flesson19 I was recording game play for my trade video and I made a new personal best. 300 Trade in 135 days! I posted an video on one exploit and have another I need to record. The new one may set a new record for 300 Trade.
@@hero_on_youtube wow that's really fast!
Decided to try a trader run.. I've only done smithing since I love it, but it's still broke even in 1.7, so it's way too easy to fund an army and get endgame gear as a simple vassal/ merc.. I appreciate your content bro!
I know what you mean, I try to stay away from smithing when I can. Otherwise money is pointless lol It's actually a lot of fun trying to manage a budget etc. I'm working on the trade skill perks right now, will probably have it ready by the weekend because it's a big one and taking longer than expected but that should help out some!
Thank you for watching :D
@@Strat-Guides I know! But I love making custom weapons! It's just too easy to rely on as a sole source of income. If they ever fixed it and added the ability to make your own armor/ repair weapons.. or branch off and make bow & arrows.. oh well. Maybe the mod community will rise to the occasion.
It's insane how good this is. I'm glad to see flesson comments as I was going to say almost exactly what he did but he saved me the trouble!
Intro editing: I love almost any effects to highlight achievements on the battlefield. That said- strobing is not one I PERSONALLY like. I have some neurological issues and it can really bother my eyes and give me terrible headaches. But that's just me my dude. I really like about anything that makes it seem unique and makes good kills seem all the better. I do really like when you do the slow mo effect when you do something good in battle. It really highlights the achievement. Now get some needed sleep sir! And make sure your wife doesn't get too annoyed at you 😂😳🧠
Thank you! Yeah it seems like you're not the only one to say this - the slow motion from time to time send okay but the other stuff is maybe a little too much. I'm glad I experimented with it in a small section rather than doing a whole video and pissing people off haha
Discord server is up now: Check the useful guide section to see all the guide data and the hero builder database: discord.gg/59hjSTnR
At 4:22 , the profit was 12.2% more if having level 300 against having level 1. This percentage depends on how much the normal profit you get from the transaction - if you buy with 10 and sell with only 11, the increase in profit due to trading level 300 is growing at 45% (sell price is 11.22, which returns 1,144,889) . If selling with 20, the increase in profit is lower (20.4 sell price, 2081616 total profit, which means +8%) . So it helps more if the sell price is not that high compared with the buy price. Buying with 10 and selling with 15 is a good average.
Great video, I want to see the black box of mechanics cracked :)
I remember starting a new game after trading a lot in the other one. To my surprise, the prices were not reset (they don't have high margins when you start, at least the first time), but kept the values from the previous game.
That's a great point, I'll have to double check my math on that one. It all made sense as I was writing it anyhow lol but I think you have a good point there. Thank you for watching and commenting, I appreciate it!
That intro, man. You are seriously talented with your editing. You have an eye for a cinematic action style.
Thank you! I've been watching other channels that make extremely good content and trying to learn a few things here and there :)
Been binging these guides!
Just wanted to say that I picked the exact same banner when I started my Midas character.
They are binge worthy?! I'm flattered :)
Lol nice, Midas is a great name for a character. Thank you for the support!
You are the M&B GURU! Love your content dude! Keep em coming!
Thank you!! I have Riding perks scheduled for this week's release as well as another episode of the world conquest :)
bro this was surgical, I'm impressed.
Thank you for always putting out all these great guides!
No problem, I've got the Steward guide coming out on Friday so stay tuned!
This so SOOOO good. I've been trading since day 2 with this character and debating making the trek from my home in Vlandia to Aserai territory for $$. Definitely doing this ASAP.
Yeah it's definitely worth it! Sometimes you have to let some time pass for their inventory to thin out, but I think at least a couple trips per year is still very profitable.
Very informative, excellent guide!
Thank you, I'm glad to hear that! I was trying my best to condense the info down into something palatable. I think I had a 35 minute video when I first started editing and got it down to just over 15 minutes!
Idk how you do it, especially regarding trading, must be a real pain to gather all this data, well done mate
@@kennethyeo2688 fortunately my brain is wired to enjoy the data collecting lol I studied physics in college so I still have a little bit of that in me (never used it outside of school though). Different strokes for different folks I guess
@@Strat-Guides hhahahhahha yes indeed
So while I didn't find anything new here, maybe you'll be interested in what I was looking for:
- How town cash reserve is estimated. I've noticed that cities where I sold overpriced smithing goods have much higher cash later on than ones in which I mostly sold legit goods.
- Single town: measure garrison (quality as well as quantity), and Cornicopia-starve them. You can starve a city by drowning them in variety of foods. If food is in green, city will buy it off the market and boost prosperity, this is meant to balance hearth growth. But if you flood the market and then stop - the city will enter starvation process. What troops do they lose and how long until the process stops?
- Village economy sabotage: buying local goods and selling horses, wine, furs, tools and velvet (probably others, but these were stated explicitly in patch notes) boosts the village. But what happens if you sell your equipment there? What happens if you leave the village with no goods to sell or no money?
- Village economy maintenance: reverse of the above. When you enter a village as an army, other parties tend to buy out local food to 0, but only if it's a friendly village. Does it help to leave some food after such accidental raid, or does lack of food not affect the village?
Village economy: when villagers travel to a city does a set of goods get generated to sell, and then what they purchase - or do they actually take goods out of a village, buy actual goods in city and try getting them to the village?
High prosperity villages will often have ie cows, cheese and butter. Is it possible to give a boost by ie selling livestock where grain is made, how long if at all does livestock stay in village? Does selling non-rpduced food item increase the amount that'll be available to deliver to city?
High/low prices - what are the effects on caravans, villages (connects to the above, do villagers actually SELL their items based on current pricing) if we take care to keep prices low/high within same spectrum. Taking Tyal as example - do we help the city by keeping the fish price at 9 or 12 over a given period of time? How if at all does long term price affect city prosperity and it's villages hearths? Will caravans still buy the 12g fish in same amount or would 9 price yield better results as goods instead of gold is measured for the city-agent? What if we only buy at city, what if we only buy at villages?
I'm pretty amazed how much is already in the game, and TBH it actually makes me want to take a crack at modding just to implement some gameplay effects for which there is already foundation laid out within the game. Particular dream: equipment sold at villages that is then used by militia.
Wow there is a lot here, I'm going to have to come back later when I take a break from editing to reread this because you bring up some very interesting points that I would indeed like to look at further!
Yeah modding is pretty intimidating, at least as someone who doesn't code or mess with game files often. It seems really fun though.
Should include the village trade xp exploit. Buy all of a trade good to raise the price, sell all to tank the price and buy them back to reset the purchase price, then take the cheap goods to a village of the town with hyper inflation. Sell your goods for max profit but no money to just buy trade xp.
Like this, buy 3k grain and force the price from 3 den to 40 den.
Sell at a close town to tank the grain back to 3 den, buy it back at 3 den.
Take grain to village of original town for 30 den per grain.
The Denars wont change at villages, although you dont get money.
So sell 3k grain from 3den for 30 den each. That is 27 xp per grain.
Raw 81 000 trade xp. Add the xp multiplier of say... 10 that's 810 000 trade xp. Do it with horses for easier profit.
Yeah I've heard of these, pretty crazy! They came out after I release the video, but I suspect they will get patched out soon given how popular those exploit videos are becoming. It's a brilliant strategy though, whoever thought of it was doing some next level plays stuff :P
Found your channel yesterday, really like your style, thanks for the videos
Sweet, thank you for the sub! I've got quite a few more topics to cover, but if I miss anything feel free to let me know and I'll add it to my list to cover :) This week will be the crossbow perks and another episode of the world conquest speedrun.
@@Strat-Guides you completely changed how I play the game, really appreciate it. I’m interested in what you do with your companions. I liked your Frederick the great videos also, I love history and I think Frederick is forgotten a lot. You definitely got a fan, can’t wait for your next video
@@mrniko4178 I do plan on doing a guide just for companions, so that should be helpful! I know personally, I'm pretty terrible when it comes to companions as well. I always forget to hire more lol
I'm uploading the next episode of ole Fritz right now :D He's great, I love watching documentaries on him and Prussia in general. They are always fun to play as in other games as well, especially EU4! Such an interesting history with the Hohenzollerns.
@@Strat-Guides That’s funny you say that, I recently just got interested in him and Prussia, I watched a bunch of documentaries about him on UA-cam then I went home and played a Brandenburg game on EU haha
@@mrniko4178 haha yeah Brandenburg into Prussia is the most fun! Getting Konigsberg is the hardest part, but once that's done it's smooth sailing. Gotta love those Prussian space Marines stack whipping armies bigger than they are haha
Hi any chance for sn updated guide ? Thanks in advance and thanks for all your good work!
I updated a handful of the perk guides and nobody watched them, so it's hard to justify the time I need to spend on it :( They haven't changed much with trade skill and perks, but they did change the economy big-time since this video. My best advice is to stay away from mounts for trading as they seem to not do well now. Get a lot of inventory space (lots of cheap units with pack animals) and go town to town trading everything you can to level up quickly.
@@Strat-Guides thanks so much!
Hi, love your videos. great guide, but one thing i didnt see you cover (might be wrong). But I have experienced that you should sell to the town first then exit the vendor window and reenter it to buy goods, as trade skill seems to increase the higher the amout denars you earn is. As in you dont buy and sell at the same time but you do it in 2 seperate actions.
Thank you for watching! Oh that's interesting, I didn't test that as I wasn't aware that that was a thing. I'll have to see what difference it makes, I'll check it today. Thanks for the info!
@@Strat-Guides Hi , did you get to test it out? would love your feedback on it :)
@@havardherskedal2952 thank you for reminding me! So I started at one town and bought all good that were dark green. Went to another town and saved the game. I sold my goods, then exited, when back in and bought what I needed. The XP gain was +1 level to 251 and 29,047XP towards 252. Then I reloaded, bought all the dark green, then sold in the same screen without exiting and the XP was +1 level to 251 and 29,060. Almost the same XP, only off by 13 (with 10x multiplier so only 1.3XP). I wasn't happy so I did one final test - I got rid of everything and then went to a fresh town, bought everything they had, exited, went back in and sold them back their same goods and earned +1 level and 29,687XP. So it looks like when you buy out all the goods, there can still be a gap between the buy and sell price. I wasn't aware of this, but now we have another method to level up trade! Thank you for this, I'll have to add it in to the next guide when they patch trade :)
@@Strat-Guides Cheers mate, thanks for the answer and for testing. Its just a minor thing that i noticed. great videos mate. keep making them.
The flashing lights at the start almost gave me a seizure. I closed my eyes fast enough to avoid it. Btw I would recommend picking up the herd perk in the rider skill tree. It reduces heard penalty by 50% (rounded up.) It pretty much lets you stay around 5.1- 3 movement speed with as many horses, livestock, and pack animals as you can afford. This also means that your carry capacity is pretty much void, since you won't have to worry about the overburden penalty.
Yeah I only did that once, never again. Sorry about that!
Yes!! That's probably my favorite perk from riding, it's soooo good (but also bugged lol it's not supposed to be like that). They calculate the overburdened reduction on 2 other perks by adding a debuff that scales WAY past the 0 point (1M lbs over weight will have -10000MS lol but min is still 1), but herding penalty is not the same even though it should be so I suspect that will get patched at some point. Until then, it's my favorite way to trade!
Another fantastic guide. Great work!
I appreciate it! I was a little worried this one would be a little too dense. I got a head start on the Steward guide for next week and I think it will be a bit less hectic so we can all have a little breather lol
Great guide man. Keep up the good work !!!!
Thank you! I'm working on the polearm perks guide and should have it ready by Friday :D
Love your stuff, thanks man!
Keep up the good content! Definitely helpful, appreciate all the hard work you are doing :)
Thank you! It's a lot of work, but I really enjoy it. I'm just glad they are helpful so I'm not the only one getting something out of it lol
another video idea is playthrough perks commenting on what perks to take for conquest, diplomatic, trade and other types of play, one for general, and perhaps benefits of some in combination, as well as a party character perk setup for playthroughs and for ones to employ then make lords.
How about winning without force or trade? What if somebody wanted to rule the world as the Sturgian Surgeon by maximizing on health as their prime objective? Don't let the Prussians forget Brandenburg :)
Does leading an army of your clan increase leadership as much as having outsiders in the army? In this case does size matter?
That's a good idea, I actually have plans for doing a series of builds with examples of how and when to put your character's points, what to do in the different stages of the game, etc. I'm still working on the planning phase for that though.
That's an interesting idea, although I'm not sure how one would expand without trade or battles. Maybe through charm??
So the leadership XP only depends on how many troops are in the army and it doesn't matter who owns the troops. So call everyone you can when working for leadership XP :)
@@Strat-Guides So quantity counts in leadership, thanks. No mention of amount of armies formed so I suppose that does not matter.
The idea of Sturgian Surgeon is just fun in making the main character as chief medical officer and having the best health in the game, they would do better in recovery, and healthier cities, perhaps needing fewer resources, and moral perks would be nice. Yes, charm would tag along with good health perhaps. I could see a perk if the main character is the best, scout, engineer, etc in the realm.
When to allocate would be a good video. I hope you do it. Thanks for all your testing.
Greatness in the making.
Thank you for watching all the videos! The support is so nice to have.
the golden trade route seneon to marunath buy mules and sumpter when passing sen and sell them in mar very easy to level up trading with little effort every time you pass that direction
These guides are very nice
Thank you for your continued support, I appreciate it!
Thanks for the trade color indicator. I’ve been doing it backwards!! 🙈 😂
i do what you call the hostile trade attack. I call it a Golden Wall attack, but i focus on causing the town to revolt. Then i attack the town when it is basically defenseless, doing it this way i dont end up at war with any major faction. The total number of enemy lord i end up fighting will be 3 at most, and they will be starting with small armies.
Haha the golden wall - I like that, it's much more visual of a name. I can imagine you strolling into town with bags and bags of gold :D
Causing a rebellion is a really good idea, I probably should have tried for that one in this guide but it didn't occur to me at the time. Thanks for the idea!
@@Strat-Guides something to think about... a guide on city management and how to cause or prevent rebellions. I know from my many golden wall attacks is that the rebellion is prime to kick off when the militia outnumbers the garrison force.
@@Davonskevort I have that one near to top of my list for guides to do, so hopefully I can get to that one real soon! Okay got it, I think you told me that last time because I put it in my notes :)
14:08 You can also wait just outside the gates of the city and buy all the food from caravans and villager parties, that way the food you buy will cost a lot less and you can sell small amounts of food at night for massive profits, as neither villagers nor caravans tend to travel at night. You don't even need to buy the food back, the city will starve regardless, but you will always gain massive profits from every good you sell.
That's a great point! Do you know how buying/selling prices are calculated for the caravans? I have not done any testing on that yet so I'm curious.
@@Strat-Guides I haven't done any testing myself either, but it seems like caravans use the average value of goods without any regards for supply or demand, similar to villagers.
@@TheDirtyShaman If that's the case, then I wonder if it makes sense to just sit outside a town poach stuff that the town is buying in the red? The amount of caravans that hit a city in one day is pretty crazy.
@@Strat-Guides It's pretty easy to manipulate a market if you completely control the supply of it, but you get limited by the amount of supplies a single town consumes. You can artificially inflate demand for a specific good by buying all the workshops in a town, changing their production to consume the item you want to monopolize and selling the workshops again.
@@TheDirtyShaman I remember reading about that a while back, I think they were planning on changing the AI behavior to switch the workshop back if you did that but it sounds like that isn't the case still lol
Great channel, nice job!
Thank you for your support! It really makes a different and I appreciate it.
The Hostile Capitalist is devious, ingenious and absolutely profitable.
I have since then found a similar method :) You can carry a bunch of equipment to sell (smithed weapons, battle loot, etc.) and just make sure the town has 0 denars to spend. Once per day, they make 1/3 of their equilibrium balance so you just need to make sure you keep them at 0 food AND 0 denars. Same for when caravans visit, if they buy stuff you can just buy the food and then sell them more stuff. When they are at 0, they can't buy more food and will starve :D
Awesome guide :D
Thank you!!
Bro you crazy, and its amazzing thank you
Amazing work! suscribed!
Thank you for the support!! I really appreciate it :D
Great video ! Did you ever end up sharing that datasheet with all the productions, values, etc ?
Hi there, sorry I was away for a few months dealing with business issues. I did have it all on the discord server under the useful guide info section, but I'm also currently working on making a website to host everything so it's easier to find and better organized. I should have it up and running in the next month or two!
informativ as always
Thank you for watching!
Eh. Pretty much what seemed obvious to me. Except for the horses, I never considered them a trade good. Still, if you want to have a complete set of guides, you might as well include this. :)
Yeah there are so many trade guide out there already, I tried to get as much data as I could to hopefully show parts of the economy people weren't aware of or stats on perks etc. For example, I didn't realize how bad wholesaler is compared to appraiser. I'll never pick that one again! Hopefully it wasn't boring at least
There was one thing I didn't include due to irrelevance and time - level 300 roguery and trade give a huge boost to loot sales. Roguery gives way more loot at higher levels and level 300 trade boost sale price by nearly 40%, so you can get huge money from a single battle.
You know this game better than the developers XD
Great video, thanks for the fantastic resource!
Haha that would be a bad thing if it were true!!
Thank you for watching :D
Love the Jeff Bezos character xD
Horses are indeed good for trading but too many horses implies a herd penalty on campaign speed though, so I guess it will be really annoying in some cases, right? (like you are on a commercial run, but your kingdom is suddenly attacked by a powerful neighbour, you have to get home the quickiest way possible)
Anyway interesting videos. Thanks for the work :)
Lol I never knew Jeff was so good with a two hander :)
That's a great point, at which point it might make sense to take a loss and dump the extra horses if you are being chased.
Thanks! I have the final video of this series set for Friday release - Engineering. Stay tuned!
@@Strat-Guides Subscribed, ready for the following!
In my latest run I got started with trading horses. I ended up accidentally buying about 3500 sumpter horses for around 8-30 each and proceeded to sell them for ridiculous prices after crawling across the map towards valandia
Nice! Sounds like you had riding horde as well?? I love using that perk, it really cuts down on the trade grind.
On the whole seller opinion, if you aren't focusing trade, appraiser is superior since it increases loot profits, if you are pumping trade to buy fiefs, whole seller is way better since it increases xp gain
I really like appraiser, especially if you are doing a roguery build. You pretty much get close to double the sellable value from battle loot!
Agreed, Whole seller is good for those trader focused games.
Hi great video and excellent analysis, i appreciated your work for quite some time now. but i wonder what programm did you used for making the analysis, could you share it? thank you in advance keep up the good work that you put out for us have a nice day brother
Thank you! It's a program called Notion - you can make an account with them for free :) I've used it for about 4 years now and never paid a penny!
First person melee combat looks insane after watching that intro lol
very good explanation
Ah yes, the good old Aserai Horse Run...a staple of any Bannerlord Trade playthrough.
It's so hard not to once you know it's there... I tried it once and got bored after a few towns so I bee-lined it for the south.
Another brilliant guide! You wouldn't happen to have that trade goods database laying around somewhere would ya? ;)
I started a Discord channel and posted ALL of the data from each guide there! Head over to the channel: discord.gg/77uHKy2P Click on the section: Useful-guide-info, at the very top you'll see the trade guide. There are a bunch of collapsible buttons, go to the last one labeled data. If i recall, that specific one is labeled "whole world economics". I also have the other ones showing production by faction which is pretty cool too!
Thank you for watching the guides!
@@Strat-Guides Strat somehow when I click on discord link, got an error message saying invalid or replaced. What should I do? Really want to have a hand all those products data, tried myself collecting those data but too much overwhelming
@@DucNguyen-Dalexa I'm not sure why it's not working. Try this one: discord.gg/kFdJqsGU
If that doesn't work, you can message me on Discord directly and I can send you an invite. Strat Gaming#6927
It's been a while since I subbed to a channel. Here ya go.
On a side note, do you have any thoughts about the better areas to set up a workshop? Would it be better to set up a Wine workshop in a high grape density area, or lower density area? Legit wondering.
Thank you! I'll keep the guides coming so hopefully I can continue to earn the sub moving forward as well : )
That's a tricky one... I feel like I've tried so many combinations, but results feel random. I have not done concrete testing, so I can't say for sure. Flesson19 has a great video each patch where he tests each workshop in every town so you know which one produces well. I'll probably do my own workshop video at some point, but more just testing the mechanics of it rather than a practical guide because I can't touch his work - it's very good. ua-cam.com/video/fpFpxfnE65U/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Flesson19
Selling horses doesn't seem to work now, I couldn't find a single Asrai horse and the other types I did buy were not easy to make a profit off of...
Mules are great to buy as well, you can buy it for 40d and sell for 200d
Great point! The nice thing about that is you get a ton of extra carry capacity too, so more trade :) Thank you for watching!
Smash a like when i see a new guide from Strat, these are amazing just because of the effort that he puts into cration! Such great content man, good luck in everything
Thank you for all the support! I really appreciate it :D
I'm impress by the Airtable play. You're the first person I know who actually uses their GUI lol. Or am I wrong?
Lol I'm really intrigued by your question, but I have no clue what you mean by Airtable play?? It sounds like I'm either going to look like a genius or a complete idiot, but I'm good with either outcome haha Can you elaborate for me please?
I just googled it and I know exactly what you're referring to - turns out I'm an idiot in the end haha but the software I was using is called Notion, which is similar to Airtable from what I can tell. Notion is free, so I'm sure it's much simpler than airtable. I use it for a lot of things actually, from managing all of my projects, todo lists, tracking business KPI's, personal fitness stuff, etc. so It's pretty flexible. I've used it as a CRM in the past as well, although I gotten out of that business since then.
great video you got a new sub
Thank you! I appreciate the support :D
@@Strat-Guides hello bro do you have the document that you 7:20 so i can check it out and make some money thanks
@@Brandon-io9yj Yeah for sure, it's on the discord! check the Useful Guide Info section: discord.gg/48Tpe9dKH9
With a strategy of doing bare minimal fighting, arena practice fights are far more efficient than tournaments for early game money. Far easier and faster wins.
I can't recall the prize for arena practice, is it 500 Denars?? It's nice because there is no risk and you don't have to travel anywhere for it.
@@Strat-Guides It's 250 denars per win. As you mentioned, there is no traveling requirement to do it. There is also the added benefit of not needing to deal with armored opponents, which can be a deterrent with low weapon skills. A more even playing field for a new character. And the way the AI behaves, it's pretty easy to avoid most of the fighting (maybe needing to fight 3 or 4 on average) then swoop in and beat the last guy standing for an easy 250. Imperial arenas are especially good for this strategy, since their shape makes it easy to avoid most of the combat by standing on one end of them. This always worked nicely for me to get some easy seed money to start with.
@@TheCybercoco That's a great point - certain cultures have easier arenas than others. Especially when they give you a shield to start :D
I don't know why but I lost it when he said "these greedy bastards."
12:26 when you say "sell red" you mean "red in the buyer's inventory" not red in the player's inventory, right? If you have Trader Level 50, then my understanding is: items which have a price that is above average will be listed as red in the traders inventory. However, if the player purchased those same items at lower prices then the price in the player's inventory for the same commodity will be listed in green in the player's inventory. So my rule of thumb was "buy green from trader inventory / sell green from player inventory" and using that I seemed to be doing pretty well in terms of my total assets growing, so either I was getting lucky somehow or else I'm misunderstanding what you are saying in your video (or else they changed how the relative values are displayed).
This is one aspect of TW's design I find unnecessarily vague. The first function that is unlocked with trader skill is that profitable items (in one's inventory when in the trade screen) are listed as green. This shade of green gets lighter (less vibrant) as the price approaches the price at which the commodity was purchased (or else the "average" price for the stack if the stack comprises portions which were purchased at different prices). I believe this functionality is unlocked at level 25? I'm almost certain that this is how that level of trading UI works as I've observed it.
Then when you get to Level 50, you unlock the "Item prices shown relative to average" (which presumably means: the median or mean price for a commodity for the ENTIRE game world at any given time is compared to the list price for the commodity in the trade screen and then the characters are displayed in different shades depending on how much lesser or greater the price is compared to the average: green meaning price is low; yellow approximately average; red above average.
Yeah exactly, sorry I should have clarified that better. Essentially green is a good buy if it's on the town's side and red is great to sell if it's your own inventory.
The combat intro was cool, but I'm glad I do not have reactions from the reciprocation. I wonder if it stimulates seizures?
Yeah I got a lot of complaints for that, so I never did it again :( I mostly just do specialized combat footage now without a ton of editing for the intro to keep it simple.
Thanks!
Just take around 1000 mules 500 sumpter horses ho to a village that buys the mules for a big profit sell them even if they give you just 1000 denars buy the mules back with forged weapons go to the nearest city sell the mules then re enter the trade menu put in the sumpter horses take the mules in to your inventory and then the sumpter horses now you bought the mules for a smaller price now go back to the village and do the same.
I did this and in 15 minutes I've gone from lvl 5 trade to 300
Yeah that's a good one! Saved a ton of time grinding. I try to not cover exploits in my videos since the assumption is TW will patch them out quickly and it will be a dead part of the video.
my only question is for the green for sales, when I buy products at a green price its usually expensive, and when I sell them on a red price its usually cheap,
Mules that I bought for 140, can sell them at 61 and 61 is in red (also the mules were too expensive but I needed these)
So green on the buy side indicated the price is lower than the world's average and green on the selling side indicates that there is profit relative to what you bought the item for. If your mules are lighting up green still based on those prices, you might have bought some at a really good price before you bought the 140 ones and it's still a good enough price to make money. For example, if I buy 99 mules at 50 and then 1 at 140, it will cost average them out, meaning your average purchase price will be something like 51, so even selling for 61 will still yield a profit. I hope that makes sense!
Thanks Strat
No problem, I appreciate the support :D the YT algorithm loves all these comments lol
I wonder if you can cook the economy by buying workshops, changing their type then selling them again.
Hehe Jeff Bezos is leaving comments now, savage! I do plan on making a quick video on workshops, I'll be sure to test this :D
@@Strat-Guides Jeff Bezos?! It's not my fault that King Derthert has decided to levy 0 federal tariffs in Vlandian territory.
On a more serious note, I only have the gog version of the game so could only try this on 1.6.3 but I changed every workshop in Calradia to smithy. Turns out when you own the only brewery in the entire game you make a profit of 1k per day on it. Pretty nuts.
@@yoloswaggins2161 I wonder who is more Savage, Gerthert or Bezos?
wow that's a lot in the current patch! I think most are giving 150-250 at most lol nice one!
Not sure where you got the idea that grapes are only in the west, they're all over Aserai.
You made me second guess myself lol I had to load up to verify! I do tend to make mistakes so thank you for keeping me honest - Indeed there are no grapes in Aserai lands( at least in patch 1.6.2). They do have olives, which has a symbol very similar to grapes, but the green is much darker than the one they use for grapes. They also have a ton of dates as well.
Thank you for watching!!
trade is the most powerful early money strat. it takes about 15 minutes to get over 10k denars and it spitballs from there, easily into 50-100k a day.
Smithing would like to have a word with you...
Lol joking aside, for me personally, I think it's the 2nd best way to earn money quickly in the game. However, when they fix smithing so that you can't get end game crafting materials from day one, then I think trade will reign supreme.
I don't generally do that many trading starts, so i'm curious to hear your method? The numbers your state are really good!
@@Strat-Guides it really depends on if you can get good parts, i can agree. however-its much easier to go and buy 1k of mules or horses and triple your profit with every buy-sell cycle. and thats like 2-3 minutes in the game you can already rake in money. smithing is of course absolutely broken, BUT it takes real life time, meaning early game is faster for a bit with trading, and then changing strat to smithing. Also, high price goods are the worst to trade. best are horses, lifestock and mid price goods, in cases of tools, iron, beer or dates you can easily get 400% return without any perks if you know where to sell.
@@Strat-Guides also, trading regular goods has another effects-it can seriously help with prosperity of cities OR with draining cities of prosperity. Using smithing items to buy out whole cities will inevitably hit prosperity because they wont have ability to sell your OP smithing items to caravans so those stay in cities forever, collecting dust, resulting in hampered ability to buy food for example.
@@---ii8hl Can't argue with that, plus with the extra mules you can carry a literal ton of other trade goods along the way.
At some point they have to address smithing, so I think it will become even more of a late game thing.
I never realized how good livestock are for trading until doing this guide! I just wish they posted the same profit markings like they do with trade goods (when you get the first perk). I think that's what messed me up.
I had no idea you could view categories when trading in towns. 300 hours and iv been scrolling all the way down every time 🤦♂️
like the vid but imo smithing is still way better. U just need to get the right parts and can easily sell 1 sword for 38k. Only downside is u have to travel from town to town
Hang on, at 12:25 you say 'red is the best' for selling. But that clearly isn't, perhaps not anymore? I dunno, I've just started learning the whole trading thing in this game, but all the items that have a red price in my inventory when in a town are much lower than what they are at green in other towns? Same when buying, red = high price (don't buy at red, costs too much). They probably updated it so a green price when buying = cheap, and when selling the green = making the most money.
Putting a brewery in Charas a few times made the town start to starve which makes grain sell price 21 denars.
Lol that's savage! You used up all the grain!
@@Strat-Guides Yup
@@Strat-Guides Many games plays
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"Money can't buy you happiness"
Me: You ever see a sad person on a jet ski?
Lol true! Being broke sucks, especially in Bannerlord when you can't afford your troops :(
Have you noticed some nonsense concerning average price et marked %?
Multiple times, when I buy a certain quantity of the same good, while the price increase as it should, the marked % goes backward.
For exemple: starting price of oil is 30d, being market at -50% but when I slide up to buy more, this % will go to -60%/-70% even if the price is actually increasing.
Ps: I did a clean install just to make sure and the nonsense still persist.
Hm... I can't say that I've come across that one myself. Did you notice if the market was actually doing that or if perk was just bugged? I'm curious to see if there was some sort of connection between buying it in that town and it effecting prices everywhere (think quantum entanglement lol) or if it was just the perk not calculating properly.
these thumbnails are great :))
I tried joining your discord, but the link is broken. Do you have another link to share?
My bad, I thought I replaced all the bad links! discord.gg/48Tpe9dKH9 This one should be permanent!
Yes, the TW Black Box!
Haha yeah I made a commitment to include it : ) Thanks again!
@@Strat-Guides Love your videos, thanks the tremendous effort you put into em! They make the black box a little less black boxy :)
@@kneedeep185 Don't worry, I got more TW Blackbox for Friday coming up lol and more than one!
Thanks for the continued support, it's really helping out a lot and I appreciate it!
I love your videos ... but I do not quite understand the comment of buying at 50% of average sells price.... How do you know its at 50%?
Hi Redridge! Thanks for watching :) So when you hover your mouse over an item and you see the pop up menu to the left, the price will either be red, yellow/orange or green. When you're looking to buy, you want to buy something that is green, which means the average buying price is below the average. If you hover your cursor over the green price, you'll see another pop up saying how much below the average price it is. It's actually a statistic that the game gives us for free - it's pretty OP to be honest lol I hope that helps!
@@Strat-Guides perfect, and thank you
What's with spice? Are we heading for Dune mods? Helps us be aware of real world price manipulation that is happening , a different kind of conflict hurting the common people. It would be interesting if TW put something in rewarding market fairness to the populace.
Haha the spice! You get those from clearing out bandits from towns sometimes, but I don't think they really do anything. It would be cool if you could use it as extra boost to morale with food.
Yeah they could really do a lot with the economy, especially as it relates to the common people.
Thank you for watching!!
@@Strat-Guides It would be interesting if a special commodity such as spice could be introduced, worth more than its weight in gold. perhaps making silk from something other than cotton?
A serious question, how to remove the criminal element from your town? Yes fight them, let them suffer for lack of recruits or weapons, does buying out their business get rid of some? Can some be brought back to a legal lifestyle? It would be interesting to find anti criminal groups from vigilantes to true honest do gooders.
Yes your videos are the best out there, not hype, just the facts in an orderly fashion. How did you survive UCB?
Do you get trade skills from selling items from tournaments and loot? Because I've been doing that and my trade is 0 . Xbox here
You will only get XP for items you personally bought and sold for a profit. The game logs your purchase price and tracks it when you sell, so if you steal stuff from a village or loot from a battle, it will not count. Just stick to trade goods and animals since equipment doesn't change price throughout the entire campaign and map.
It makes me sad that there isn't more intelligence to the town markets. Being able to starve a settlement by constantly buying all their food should not be possible.
I found another way to do it too lol you can bring a lot of junk and constantly sell things to them so they have no money to buy food hahaha
I think it should be kind of possible but not nearly as easy as it is to do now.
If you think about it, the only time people wouldn't be willing to sell food at all is when there's barely any left plus they don't have enough. If they aren't under siege or in a famine I feel like most people would be willing to sell their food at extraordinary prices even if they don't have much. So essentially what I mean is that, if you're buying a town out of it's food reserves it should become prohibitively expensive to do so as more and more people run out.
If I buy a workshop. Change it and later give it up. Will it revert to the original shop? Or remain what I change it to? And will it change later if the AI realises all of their shops sell the same product.
Great question!! I know I've done it before and they didn't change it so I decided to load up a game and try it out. I bought all the shops in Balgard, turned them into Silversmiths, waited a few months (they were basically making 0, 0 & 17 denars per day by the end lol) and then sold them all. I waited a full year and they were still silversmiths! So you can still go around, buying up shops and ruining the market. You could be the only one with beer workshops in your towns and dominate ;)
So I think I’m not selling in high enough quantities but I sell armor, horses, food items all the time. I have 1 caravan and the only time my trade xp went up was from buying and selling for trade rumors within a very quick amount of time. I tried selling iron, steel, wrought iron bars. Which I saw as highlighted “green” and my trade xp did not go up after selling 5 each. So what am I doing wrong? Also on Xbox if that matters
I don't think you can get trade XP from selling gear (weapons, armor, arrows, etc.) because the price is pretty much the same across the board so there is no margin. I would focus on trade good and you'll probably need high volume to even make a dent. Trade XP is a real grind unfortunately.
Hej, did they change selling colours? I'm selling with profit on green prices.
I just checked it right now - it still works the same way as in the guide! Dark Green is good profits, light green is small profit, yellow is break even, red is losing money.
What about workshops? That is my biggest question on this game, how does it really work? Because i have tried many different ways but it seems that they really only have a few worthwhile workshops to have, just like in the first game.
That's a tough subject!! I've done just some basic tinkering with workshops and it's really hard to decipher the results. They can fluctuate so much depending on which caravans are coming, who the owner of the town is at war with, which villages were raided, etc. I do plan on doing a guide testing the workshop mechanics but the problem is they seem to change from patch to patch. Flesson19 has some really good videos on workshops that he does with each update patch, I recommend checking his video out!
@@Strat-Guides thanks for the reply, love your vids.
stonks!!!!
Aw man, I missed an easy Meme! Thank you for reminding me, I'll have to add that one in when they patch trading lol
are there any economy mods something showing that prices are below average prices and another color showing prices are high?
I like that last part about the hostile trade, i used a similar method to get settlements without causing wars (pre kingdom)
I have a question, i’ve been super frustrated lately on trying to start my own kingdom but the sudden pouring of war declarations and insanely high tribute payments really make me go back to a previous save
How long would it take to achieve say 10 million denars? Currently im at 400k with about four settlements, and five workshops - i want to get good with trading to achieve this money
Abuse blacksmithing. I got up to 14 million denars in a couple years blacksmithing from city to city while playing the rest of the game. You van make polearms with a couple steel that sell for 12k. I have like 150 of these in my inventory at all times. There is a star falchion that requires a couple iron and sells for like 8k lol.