They actually put 7 prophecies in the Paul VI Easter Vigil. Only the Exodus reading is mandatory, and only 2 additional readings are required. The 1955 Easter Vigil was awful. I would add to the criticism of Good Friday. They got rid of all of the rites that showed that this liturgy was intimately related to the Mass, without being the Mass. No more “orate fratres;” no more pouring wine into the Chalice. And, of course, turning it into a communion service. Then there was the communal recitation of the Lord’s Prayer. I remember the first time I went to a 1955 Good Friday thinking, “This is just like the Novus ordo.” After experiencing the pre-55, I personally believe that the changes to Good Friday were the worst of all, and were preparation for the post conciliar destruction of the liturgy.
@@alexisrodrigues4767 The liturgies of Holy Week, including the Masses of Monday through Wednesday, as well as Palm Sunday and all Triduum liturgies were reformed in 1955. It was the “opening salvo” of the liturgical reform.
You all do realize that they have always made “changes” and that the “traditional” Holy Week was not always celebrated the same. There are tons of rites in the Church and practices. This type of complaining about how things “use to be better” leads to schism. I prefer the Latin mass but the complaining needs to stop. The Church has not prohibited anyone from saying the Saint Michael prayer at the end. Stay 15 minutes longer after mass to give thanks.
Liturgies develop organically over long periods of time and changes are normally made slowly and with a purpose. Everything that is in a organically developed liturgy exists for a reason. No ritual should ever be changed without a very good reason and should only be done with great care. Most of the changes that were made in the 20th century served no purpose from a Catholic theological perspective. (Unless that purpose was to change the theological principles being observed in the rituals.) The changes in the Holy Week rituals were engineered (I use that word purposefully) by theological radicals whose real intent was change the theology expressed in the ritual into something different than what was there before. The people who engineered these changes were tainted by a mixture of theological modernism and crypto Protestantism. When the end result of their reforms were rituals that looked clearly Protestant in their form, it is silly to continue to argue that the reforms of the 20th were intended to better communicate historic Catholic theology to the modern world.
Is not the pope an infallible teacher? If he changes it, is it not inspired? Mt 16:17-19 David refused to criticise the anointed of God, even when they wrong... is this matter going to cause the ruin of my soul if I obey? Thus necessitating the criticism? I imagine when saint Peter changed many things... some members of the church may have complained that reverence is gone, because of the changes... indeed some we going back to Jewish practices. My point is that if we question the changes of Pope Paul the VI, why not question the changes of Pope Pius IX or of Pope Benedict VII or of any prior Pope? Indeed, why not question the authority of the popes? Especially where we think irreverence is coming in (as defined by me). Padre Pio could have questioned the Pope opposing him, Don Bosco could have questioned Pope Leo XIII for overruling him. Ultimately, I will only obey what I agree with or what I see to be reverent. Ultimately, have I not become my own Pope?
The Pope is infallible only under very precise circumstances (I apologize that I don't know them) but infallibility has only been invoked a very few number of times.
the pope is not an infallible teacher. The Charism of infallibility is very limited and only in very specific circumstances. Pope francis has never claimed to promulgate infallible teaching.
If you're interested in discussing the matter, I'd ask you to elaborate on your assertion, and explain why it is relevant to this commentary on liturgical changes. I think we might agree on a portion of your premise, but there is sufficient scriptural support for the idea that God has been quite particular about ritual. Your comment appears to rely on the premise that the liturgical changes this clip references are insignificant, but the counterpoint is rooted in the relationship between worship and belief: "lex orandi, lex credendidi."
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Pre 1955 Holy Week is the website
They actually put 7 prophecies in the Paul VI Easter Vigil. Only the Exodus reading is mandatory, and only 2 additional readings are required. The 1955 Easter Vigil was awful. I would add to the criticism of Good Friday. They got rid of all of the rites that showed that this liturgy was intimately related to the Mass, without being the Mass. No more “orate fratres;” no more pouring wine into the Chalice. And, of course, turning it into a communion service. Then there was the communal recitation of the Lord’s Prayer. I remember the first time I went to a 1955 Good Friday thinking, “This is just like the Novus ordo.” After experiencing the pre-55, I personally believe that the changes to Good Friday were the worst of all, and were preparation for the post conciliar destruction of the liturgy.
Do you following Fr. Mawdsley on his YT channel: Scripture and Tradition? He talks about these matters.
Do you mean 1965 or 1955? Until 1958 it was all traditional even1962.
@@alexisrodrigues4767 The liturgies of Holy Week, including the Masses of Monday through Wednesday, as well as Palm Sunday and all Triduum liturgies were reformed in 1955. It was the “opening salvo” of the liturgical reform.
@@johncassani6780 So it is Pius XII then, who started modernism.
you mean we should use the pre 1955 liturgy??? i wish i saw the times of pope St Pius X
Friar Anthony Serviam
Which communities do use pre-55 Holy Week?
Institute of Christ The King
@@frankyg6906 not allways. Last year we did it mostly the new way here with small alterations.
Congregation of Saint Pius V
Sspx
@@patrickmelling8404 No, SSPX uses 1955.
I believe know why they are blessing the candle, why they are incensing it, and why it has been moved to the center. :(
I have several videos about the church and their activities. Enjoy.
Is that Fr. Malachi Martin next to John 23 in the picture?
Sam Smyth😄😄
The audio is terrible.
What should we do? It is very disheartening.
Was a trial balloon.
You all do realize that they have always made “changes” and that the “traditional” Holy Week was not always celebrated the same. There are tons of rites in the Church and practices. This type of complaining about how things “use to be better” leads to schism. I prefer the Latin mass but the complaining needs to stop. The Church has not prohibited anyone from saying the Saint Michael prayer at the end. Stay 15 minutes longer after mass to give thanks.
Cupich has prohibited the St. Michael prayer.
"Leads to schism..." Do you even know the definition of "schism"?
@@Arthur_McGowan Who is Cupich? We pray it at the end of mass on Sunday’s and a Hail Mary too.
@@Arthur_McGowan It means division.
Liturgies develop organically over long periods of time and changes are normally made slowly and with a purpose. Everything that is in a organically developed liturgy exists for a reason. No ritual should ever be changed without a very good reason and should only be done with great care.
Most of the changes that were made in the 20th century served no purpose from a Catholic theological perspective. (Unless that purpose was to change the theological principles being observed in the rituals.) The changes in the Holy Week rituals were engineered (I use that word purposefully) by theological radicals whose real intent was change the theology expressed in the ritual into something different than what was there before. The people who engineered these changes were tainted by a mixture of theological modernism and crypto Protestantism. When the end result of their reforms were rituals that looked clearly Protestant in their form, it is silly to continue to argue that the reforms of the 20th were intended to better communicate historic Catholic theology to the modern world.
Walking around, why 🤔
Anyone know the name of this priest?
Not a priest to my knowledge. Friar Anthony if I’m not mistaken
Friar Anthony with the Marian Friars Minor. They have a UA-cam channel and a website with more talks.
@@olivia_thorn thank you
Fra Anthony serviam Maria. From the marian Friars minor.
Isn’t anything that is incensed offered up to God
"I dunno" is said repeatedly..... annoying
Sedevacantism is protestantism.
Baloney. Mindless sloganeering.
Is not the pope an infallible teacher?
If he changes it, is it not inspired? Mt 16:17-19
David refused to criticise the anointed of God, even when they wrong... is this matter going to cause the ruin of my soul if I obey? Thus necessitating the criticism?
I imagine when saint Peter changed many things... some members of the church may have complained that reverence is gone, because of the changes... indeed some we going back to Jewish practices.
My point is that if we question the changes of Pope Paul the VI, why not question the changes of Pope Pius IX or of Pope Benedict VII or of any prior Pope? Indeed, why not question the authority of the popes? Especially where we think irreverence is coming in (as defined by me).
Padre Pio could have questioned the Pope opposing him, Don Bosco could have questioned Pope Leo XIII for overruling him.
Ultimately, I will only obey what I agree with or what I see to be reverent. Ultimately, have I not become my own Pope?
The Pope is infallible only under very precise circumstances (I apologize that I don't know them) but infallibility has only been invoked a very few number of times.
the pope is not an infallible teacher. The Charism of infallibility is very limited and only in very specific circumstances. Pope francis has never claimed to promulgate infallible teaching.
No. Infallibility PROTECTS the pope from innovating. It doesn't make innovations legitimate.
disciplines CAN change. Morals and dogmas of the faith do not.
GOD doesnt care about customs
If you're interested in discussing the matter, I'd ask you to elaborate on your assertion, and explain why it is relevant to this commentary on liturgical changes. I think we might agree on a portion of your premise, but there is sufficient scriptural support for the idea that God has been quite particular about ritual. Your comment appears to rely on the premise that the liturgical changes this clip references are insignificant, but the counterpoint is rooted in the relationship between worship and belief: "lex orandi, lex credendidi."
People do. Big time. Been to a wedding lately? or a formal dinner?
Lol tell that to Cain
Wrong
Ever read the Book of Leviticus?
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