Mars Hydro FC 4800 LED Grow Light Review
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2020
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When are you going to do Hlg scorpion.
@@greengold6705 Shane at migro just did the scorpion 2 days ago. It got the best efficiency ranking of any light he has ever tested..
@@greengold6705 has ppl
@@jowens2106 I know I like his videos I like to see LED grow lights depot to do it too.
@@kareemamin7762 ?
I have this light as well as the fc6500 , I replaced a 1000 watt CMH DE in a big 4x4 with the fc 4800 and it is beautiful but ran too cool for my Saskatchewan basement 20c , the 6500 runs at 23c with driver in the tent ! I can tell you that it is unbelievable compared to my hid that I fought high temperature for 40 years and the plants are beefy , chunky , dense and I can't believe the performance ! Got the ts 600 for seedlings and clone's and it's also a killer light ! I went from pulling 1700 watts from the wall over 3 tents to about 1000 total including Bloom tent , veg and clone's ......more bud , more , light , less heat , what's not to like ?? Had a 6" running full power 24/7 , now 4" turned down to 50% ! The only gripe is , $1400 for the fc6500 and $1000 for the 4800 , right now I feel it was more than worth it !
I like mars hydro lights..been dealing with them for awhile now..my whole tent is powered by mars..but your comment about their customer service getting better..that’s a false statement their customer service still sucks and no it’s not getting better..lights are awesome I would recommend to anybody..customer service still has a lot of work to do..✌🏽❤️💚
The complaints about customer service are what make me do diy lights from rapid. I know if something breaks I can replace it myself, not a shill for rapid led but their customer service amazing. I want to try chilled led too but wiring us easier for rapid for me
Even better than spiderfarmer or viparspectra?!
Never had a problem with their products in 4 years, so no need for cs.
I’ve had superb and quick responses from them. But mine was just ordering and delivery. Shrug
There customer service was good for me, and email was returned in 1-2 days.
I have monstercropped clones under 2 of these and the growth rate is insane in dwc with these! i am only at 75% at about 28 inches from canopy. Got my lights from ledgrowlightsdepot with quick service and great packaging too!
These lights are designed to give your plants 800 to 900 ppfd in a 4x4 space at 12" above the canopy.
28" above the canopy at 75% power is just robbing your plants of their potential and dry bud weight. Youd only be hitting around 500ppfd which is what vegetative stage likes not bloom.
700 to 900 ppfd is the magic number for huge yeilds if your not using c02
This guy is awesome I've bugged him over the last year he's always answered every dumb question I've had and I haven't bought a thing but I wanted to tell him publicly that Ive finally got the money to get some HLG's by Friday thanks for putting up with all the questions thanks from friend of HPS
Just wanted to say I love your vids, they are as informational as they are soothing for some reason, its like ASMR or some shit lol
Mars Hydro just upgraded their fc lights with UV and Ir. I’m getting mine in the mail in two days
Okay sick...I’ve been trying to figure out why I couldn’t find a video with the UV chip on this light, but on their website it shows they have the uv included.
Awesome let me know what u think of it . I am undecided on wich mars model to get.
UVa does f'all guys, those LED diodes just die faster. More than the 4-5% Far Red, already present in white light causes stem elongation. Do your research.
Just ordered one
I would love this light in my garden 😍
Been running this light for a while now and it's .........fckn sic , mine is in a 4x4 room and runs at 22c unbelievable , if I knew it ran that cool I would have got the 6500 ! The plants look unbelievable under this light , beautiful white light !
What do you think of these set up ideas
2 x FC 6500 in a 10x5 or
4x FC 3000 in a 6 x 6?
how is your electric bill?
@@ghostformat2041 it's simple to calculate.
1000w running for one hour is metered a kilowatt hour. That's how you're billed.
This unit at 480w would take two hours to reach a kilowatt unit. it's 12 cents a unit where I live.
20 hours of lights is around $1.20.
Awesome video, I have this light and I have blue LEDs. Not saying yours doesn't, but it doesn't look like. Still, I found 24" is great for the last 2 weeks growing auto's. Thanks for your time and vid Brotha 💯
how do you think the fc 6500 holds up against geekbeast pro?
i ordered this light and will be here in 2 days. it will be my veg tent light in a 4x4. my 5x5 flower tent I'm running HLG 650R Diablo. Both tents have AC infinity T6 exhaust and using all gaia green organics soil and nutrients with recharge once a week. I'm a few days away from flowering my first 4 plants and this is my first time growing and haven't had a single problem yet.
How is the Heat with a Diablo in a 5x5
What do you think about 2x HLG 600 R Spec in a 1O x 5 as far as Heat?
Regards
@@jasonjamesbisson there is barely any heat from it at all. It doesnt even get the inside of the tent to the same temp as outside in the room lol
@@bufflovechest thanks good to know. I'm a HPS guy never got into LED was waiting for the right time. Lights have gotten better over the last few years. Keep on growing on!!
Why get this light if your vegging? Wouldn't it have been better to go with the HLG BlueSpec?
The newer ones have better uniformity. The diodes are closer together on the edges now and the bars are spaced from the middle towards the outside edges. They also added IR and UV.
Is this light better than the Roi-e420?? Debating between the two..
When do you get more Mars sp3000 on your website or fc 3000 ?
How do you hang it? I see something wrapping around the supports
The new upgraded fc series has diod s bunched at the ends of each bar. My fc300 is hitting between 700 and 950 ppfd across the entire canopy in my 2×3 at 12" above and 75% power. Great light.
I like the idea of bunched diodes at the ends. Very smart!
The bump in the blue. will help resin production in flowering late on
Uv added 2 hrs a day mid light cycle for the last two weeks of flower will indeed increase resin production. You can also use 730nm deep red fifteen minutes at the end of the cycle and it will put your plants to sleep in 5-10min instead of 2 hours so you can run 14on/10off during flower and blow your shit up
According to mars hydro web site they advertise uv on the FC series
Is the Better than GeekBeast pro 630?
I purchased this light at the end of May and have run it through the full cycle veg through bloom. Amazing light for under $700!
Did they live up to the 2.5 gpw?
@@perrch95 there is alot of factors. Strain environmental conditions and growers skill level.
@@perrch95 I calculated 2.2 gpw.
@@timpage5021 I was around 2.2 gpw. I use a super soil mix 40% Ocean, 20% biochar, 20% worm castings, 20% Hydroton. I also use Blumat auto watering system. I keep my ph @ 6.5 and adjust my ppm depending on growth stage. I also feed a brewed compost tea during flower. I also talk to my plants (watching them closely) and play them music lol! Not my 1st rodeo.
@@perrch95 Check out Dr MJ Coco his light reviews are way more accurate.
So I purchased the FC4800 in Dec of 2020. I used it for 3 grows and it did a great job. Now for the bad part, the customer service! I have just started a grow in the beginning of this month April 2022. I noticed a a few diodes out and out of the 6 bars, 5 of them had at least 1 diode out. Two bars actually have 6 diodes out! I contacted Mars Hydro through their customer support email. After going back and forth for about 4 days through email, sending numerous videos and pics of the issue, their solution was to send me 5 new bars. First of all this isn’t the FCE4800 so I have no clue how to replace these bars when they arrive if they ever do. Mars Hydro informed me through an email I received today, April 21, 2022, that the bars are not in stock and that I would “just have to wait” for 3 months till they are back in stock. Now the fixture worked great when it was working properly but if your gonna pay $600 for a light and then be told you “just have to wait”for 3 months when a warranty issue arises I would really reconsider for a different company that takes better care of their customers. I wasn’t offered any options other than to just wait. Absolutely horrible customer service!
With that light. If the power box is outside of the tent how much is the difference in temp? I have a big problem with heat in my 2x4 and a viparspectra1500xs, I’m looking to upgrade but heat is a big thing I’m looking into
The hight at 24 inches is better in the corners than the 18 inches reading. On the outer edges middle was about 1150
Hey great video anybinfo on my fc4800s both with Moso drivers.. I see yours are diff‽
Nice man your awesome. Keep on dropping vids
They only have 3 diode cold white warm white and red will it cover infrared spectrum?
Mars Hydro just added UV and Ir. To the FC. series.
Would you say these are just as good as sourced farms and other really expensive brands going for $1000 or more ?? Saw this is on eBay for around $550
Mars are killing it lately
cant wait for the fc 6500 review!
No reason for that review since it is exactly like this light, minus the size and light output :)
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot why wouldnt you review the 6500 light that is more comparable to the other popular lights on the market... becuase it would compete at a lower price?
3100+ diodes on the 6500... how many does the roi or others have...??? :)
@@CoPaVolvo Seriously lol what a joke
@@CoPaVolvo the 6500 is lacking the uv and ir diodes. I'd take the 4800 for that reason alone.
It's killing in my 3x3
Do yous have the fc3000 for sale if so how much
I grabbed the ts 600 just to see what it could do and I was fckn surprised,it's working great for veg so far but the real test will be the flower power!!. Mars are a great cheap alternative.
I got mine at the end of May and super impressed! I only had to run it at 75% in veg. I rocked 100% thru flower in 5x5 amazing light for under $700!!!
Yah but just stay away from the older blurple versions,I had used a m21200 that totally burned about 10 blue diodes after 2 months of use!! But yes they've come along way!!
@@canadianc420 They have definitely stepped up their game from just A few years ago!
Im using 2 right now
Mid-Bin products might be acceptable to you.
But, for the price they charge it better be Top-Bin for me.
I'm a new grower and starting with this one in a 4x4. I'm not noticing any dimming,when I turn the dimming switch up or down. I'm currently trying to sprout some seedlings and keeping the light about 25 inches above the pots.
You should be able to see the dimming change when you turn it up to full, if not i would contact Mars hydro by email and let them know.
There's an on/off switch for the dimming.
@@froojers Yes, Everything is working fine now. I'm not sure what I was doing wrong originally but the switch does work fine now. The babies are much happier now that I can dim down. They were getting stressed out with red stems. As soon as I discovered what I was doing wrong and dimmed down to 25%, they went ahhhh! Stems went back to green in minutes.
I was told via email by Mars that the "new" models as of Dec 18th 2020 (USA) that UV LED's were added...so I ordered 3...
Sounds tempting
Pls let us know I've been doing my research and their website does advertise uv diodes on the fc series
@@SageLakshmi ok, I got my "new" FC4800's today...and they DO have UV LED's. There is no printed paperwork to verify this however. How do I know this? Because I have transition lenses in my glasses that only activate when exposed to UV light. My old TS3000's won't activate my transition lenses...but this new light does. Also you can see them....they're very distinct (like mini black lights) and not numerous...
...for what its worth ☮️
I had absolutely no idea mars hydro was adding UV to the fc series lights. I received mine the first week of November (USA). I was pleasantly surprised after turning it on that mine had UV.😀 However, A bit confused! At that time I couldn't find any info about the new addition to the spectrum. Not even in the included manual.
Also where in the us are you located
Sf7000 par test soon maybe?
I never thought I would give Kudos to Mars! Finally a company is staggering the reds. Back in 2014 I collaborated with Nick (the BML, now Fluence) who at that time was offering 2 @ 6 bar 100w lights @ $1000 (one for V and one for B) to develop ONE light that could be used for both V and B. I suggested I could tweak a SPYDR 600 to do so, which at $1000 would equal a lot more buyers. There were a lot of ideas that could not be implemented due to how the individual diodes were mounted . Then and even until seeing this today, the diode lay out was fixed, repeating every ~ 14", which led to venetian blind lines of reds, blues, and any other spectrums, like the CW, NW, WW seen in this light, lining up on all adjacent bars. At least the BML SPYDR 's individual bars mounted to a central spine, could be slid for and aft which allowed me to stagger them. Seems fairly priced, too
Professinal.
@@MarsHydro_official 2.8umol??
@@CoPaVolvo FC series, up to 2.9umol/j
Nice thanks
Well done for calling them out on their "alleged" 2.9 more like 2.4umol/j/s PPE, for a couple $100 more I'd rather get the HLG 600 as it will smoke this light in a 4 x 4 and is actually good for 5 x 5 (nearly double the area) !
How does it smoke it?
There’s only so much ppfd your plants can take.
Both can hit optimum levels in that space
Thank you.. can I use this in a vertical setup?
Yes!
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot thank you
Yes please 🙋♂️
You can update the subtitles in various languages, perhaps including Italian .. Thanks
8.00 = chilled led sticker on tent 😬
You seem really knowledgeable on the spectrum and led equipment so I figured I’d try asking, if someone’s looking to get the most literal bang for their buck and still grow really quality bud isn’t a double ended hps or mh gonna be cheaper and putting out around the same numbers just with a higher running cost? I ask because I’m obviously not a commercial grower or anything, but I know leds have taken a major step up very recently with the quantum boards and much more reasonable pricing, but as far as initial setup cost goes would hps be cheaper and give very similar results as far as quality and quantity? I have a vipar spectra and a 300 watt hps I throw on in late veg and flower to get more yield. I know both work but I wanna have a 5*5 space(instead of 2*2 I have now) at least more than a 4*4 at least but I feel like I’m gonna have to drop between 500-700 bucks to have an decent led vs 200-350 for hps and cmh setup. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
I like turtles
Same boat. What's the point of led when you still have to supplem uv light. Makes no sense to me tbh
Can u test luxx 645w pro please & do you know what driver they use ? Thank you 😊
That would be dope I've been looking into those as well
Inventronics is what it looks like
So this will fit in a 3x3 why shouldn't I use it?
Run it at 80% it will crush.
@Led GrowLight Depot (Erick) Dude Mars Hydro use Samsung 301b and Osram 660nm I been growing Cannabis for 40 year's I'm 50 now nevertheless I been watching your reviews since you started you Never tell the real with various led manufacturers exact parts Meanwhile driver's are Chinese made and Samsung diode's are Korean and the first SMD to crack 223 lumens per watt they are mid power diodes the Chinese do currently have the best LED Surface Mount Diodes Japan are testing them now along with the New Chinese Lipo Batteries that are currently the best in Electronics to date so understand what you're doing or let Dr Coco or Migro do the LED light Technology reviews and the Chilled series Price's have fallen way Down and Led Growlight Depot still sell them for the old inflated price and to note the Mars Hydro Sp-650 is the New King of any LED light
You have been growing since you were 10? That's amazing
@@patrickregan7163 since 13 actually I'm 53 now 😁🌱🔬👨🔬
@@mackattack8627 u r a legend, my friend. Rock on.
@@patrickregan7163 it's a few of my grows on here I'll post more🌱🌲👨🔬
You will say anything when they give you a free light.
Lol
The photons is bouncing around when you don't cover the mylar floor, so your test is not as correct as it could be. Just my opinion🤷♂️
Why do u not angle the meter like u do with other lights....I think u have something personal with mars hydro...if u want to test the lights peeps...do it yourself because as u can see there's lots of personal problems with people as regards to the light they like .. favouritism etc.
That's not the point he's making he's saying be neutral and treat every light the same so we can get some clarity not someone's personal opinion of what they think the light is
He first assumption is low bin diodes with the evidence just saying and why not review fc6500 that's more comparable to the other top led lights and truthfully probably blows them away or comes close Mars is the dark horse in the race now with there new fc series or SP series
For the price ill take the rspec or roi 680.
I would say the ts series is better this is all over the place unless the sensor is not working correctly :-@
FC series is being advertised as having uv diodes where as td does not
Very curious about the new hlg scorpion Diablo
The scorpion is pretty identical to their 650 and 550 just more designed for spaces limited height wise. They made them to compete with these bar style lights without actually making one.
@Thomas Vaatuitui yea id go scorpion over the 650r. I went with the ROI680 for my new 5x5 gorilla tent with drain away trays and a condensate pump. Shes a great producer for me.
@Thomas Vaatuitui they are both great for a 5x5....the diablo is more efficient and can probably get it a little closer due to more boards being driven softer
@Thomas Vaatuitui haven’t seen it. Will def check it out.
Shane from migro just tested it.
It's very very good.
Cracy efficiency.
Lumatek Zeus pro we need...forget the rest
there other options too, medicgrow, sinowell, kingbright, those are pretty good as well
It doesn't have any uv lights
Sorry but my fc4800 has uv and far red diodes....
How are so many of these lights DLC certified when only offering a 3-year warranty. This is directly from DLC to be classified as DLC certified. "Warranty: The DLC requires a minimum warranty of at least 5 years for all components of the system addressed by the requirements, with the exception of software, on-premises computer server, and cloud service."
This light is very disappointing imo. Theres a reason they don't list the ppfd,diodes, etc. Imo the Growers choice ROI is still the best light bang for your buck wise. Mines killing it. I dont have 1 bad thing to say about it. And I have lights that cost 2x as much as it.
Agreed, but I chose Spider Farmer....most of the bar style lights only have 3 of the 4 spectrums that I want, no IR. Wish the GC brand had IR diodes in the mix.
@@iess2006 IR diodes don't last and don't really do much i have other lights with IR and they always lose 60% intensity in a year tops. With most these lights they are very similar. Spyder farmer was a bit overpriced imo and I got a great deal on my ROI680 and master controller that does sunrise and sunset dimming to the watt and safety protocols for heat and humidity etc. Under 1000$ for both couldent beat it. I have a nextlight mega that does a big area and is a monster light thats been a great backbone to my grow also. I was looking at all them lights and glad I choose the ROI. The light spectrum is perfect for flower. My megas a bit heavier in blues than I would like but helps limit my stretch. To each his own. Long as it aint a marshydro light. Lol
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 Optic LED has 10 yr warranty and their 8+ product line has IR diodes.
@@iess2006 its not garunteed for light output and degradation though. Say like spectrum king led who's lights are 3rd party verified to not loose more than 15% intensity over 5 years or so. You can watch this guy talk about IR diodes lowering the efficiency of the lights that have them and how they degrade fast. I have supplementary IR lights that I can use but I see no difference in growth what so ever. Like I said its about preference. All these lights have their pros and cons. It depends on what you prefer. Optic imo is a bit behind the curve but that dosent mean their lights aren't great. I have spectrum king sk lights that are older tech but still grow some kick ass bud. What im looking forward to is smart lights that can read plants and change spectrum on their own. Its a very exciting time for the cannabis growing community.
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 Perhaps the difference IR makes is in terps and frost, not so much quantity.
I find this line disappointing when compared to the SP3000
Same here buddy. that light is all over the place
I completely agree I have the sp 150 and the sp3000 both offer much better spread. I’d rather just get 2 sp3000 for a 4x4 instead , then I have more control of the lights if my scrog fails to keep stretching strains in check. I can just have 2 lights at different heights.
@@lawrencechoyce4814 beat the stretchy plants with a bamboo stick. High stress training!
I have an SP and recently that FC the par is 15-20% higher in my corners than in this test.
@@juliankirby9880 That's right. Be strict!
At 18inchs its does 1100 in the middle and 500 in the corners....terrible.
Sweet light Bro just sub to your channel swing by my channel when you have time ty
The uniformity is TERRIBLE the spread on these is so bad you can only really do a 2x2 tent....a hps is still way better and way cheaper unless we are talking sp6500 for $800
Lights are trash customer service is trash you are warned
Ours or mars?
Spider Farmer is better than Mars, why don't u sell that brand....
He used to, but Spyders are complete knockoffs of hlg, so he stopped.
@@neocaridaniel8220 So he decided to pickup the Mars line? Lol
@@iess2006 no doubt bro, everytime i see a youtuber with Mars ive lost respect for them. He does call them out on thier lying, but why even review? But the spiders look very similar to the hlg's too, they are direct knockoffs.
@@neocaridaniel8220 I have the SF4000, I find it to a great value....hundreds of positive reviews on Amazon
@@neocaridaniel8220 ua-cam.com/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/v-deo.html
These people send used goods, faded stickers, bent cases with traces of corrosion. Never buy anything from them. You have to return the goods at your own expense, they do not pay for postage, the cost of returning a postal parcel is $ 37. I was no longer the only one who ordered goods and received garbage from them, which can only be placed in a landfill.
Look at the reviews in the official MarsHydro Official Store aliexpress
They do not make contact, they refuse to pay for the delivery of their used goods.
I will return the bad product, you will be the next buyer of the product!
Эти люди присылают сильно бывшую в употреблении продукцию, половина красных диодов не работает, все этикетки выгорели от длительного использования, корпус погнут и имеет следы коррозии, всё пошарпано. На контакт не идут, доставка только за свой счёт, из Москвы это стоит 37 долларов. Никаких гарантий нет, обмен не делают. Просто игнорируют любые претензии и не отвечают на письма. Следующий мусор от этих мошенников получишь ты и так же останешься с поломанной техникой