Suffered for decades, went to the Western Conference finals, and then the year after we get to watch Julius Randle and a not serious team… any fan base would be frustrated.
I AM not frustrated 1 bit, speak for yourself! nobody is FORCING you to watch the games. Last year's team got SWEPT in the conference finals and it was clear that's our ceiling with Towns! Julius is leading our team in assists and is our 2nd best player by every metric, this team is going further than the Knicks in the playoffs this year, last night was a trailer of what we are gonna look like in the playoffs. You miss last year's team NOW, but I can wager you were one of those people saying we are doomed when we matched with Phoenix in the 1st round! If your team is leading the league in CLUTCH games and you are frustrated then there's clearly something wrong with YOU
We all understand why the trade was made, but you guys have to stop minimizing KAT. Bottom line is the Knicks have a better record this year than last and the Wolves have a worse record than last year. It's pretty obvious losing KAT had a huge impact on the team. It can't be all a coincidence and just the team all of a sudden becoming less professional. I wouldn't say the Gobert trade was a failure, but it seems like a lot to give up for 1 good season. And, one could argue they could have kept Walter Kessler and accomplished the same thing, or at least close, plus he's younger and more athletic.
The knicks traded 5 first round picks for Mikal bridges. And yet you think it is all Kat over there. They basically have a light version of an all star starting 5 with one awesome 6th man.
Kessler would have been on the end of the bench had the Gobert trade not happened. Towns was the starting center and Naz was the backup. To assume Kessler would have even been in the rotation is foolish.
@@DFWMentor Kessler would’ve been in rotation at least without Rudy. Fool yourself all you want though. Would’ve done the same thing for 35 million less a year you see the dilemma ?
Stop saying that Anderson was more important than Kat , stop disrespecting kat , Anderson is on the warriors and they are in 11 seed so Anderson doesn't move the niddle for any team, Kat was the best player on the T-wolves last season cause he was by far the most efficient and he's a team player very unselfish, now you got a bunch of selfish players starting by Ant
I agreed with the Gobert trade, I hated the extension. I agreed with the KAT trade, but I hate that we have Julius Randle. Tim Connelly is trying so hard to make the Gobert timeline work and it just has to end. We NEED an athletic center to put next to Ant that isn’t a complete buffoon on offense. And please let’s start just start Dillingham. Ideal starting 5 in the future: Ant Dillingham Donte Jaden (we still need his defense on the perimeter) Athletic Big
I didn’t agree with the trade and understood it as a short term boost given his age but don’t understand to keep justifying the Rudy move by resigning a 32 year old center
Agree. Trade Rudy and Randle for whatever they may get in return. Play the younger guys so they learn and give energy off the bench. No chemistry at this moment.
I would take Naz over Jaden in that line up. Regardless, that's a mid-level playoff team at best. You need at least 2 all star level players to win a title, Ant is one, but I can't see any of those others being the 2nd one.
No one wanted a Gobert extension even at a discount. He’s old now. We should have seen the falloff coming with him given how little he contributed during Olympics, and his age. Same goes for Conley. Conley is not what he was. There’s a plummeting projection for this team ever since younger KAT trade. KAT could have been Ant Man’s running man. Why in the world didn’t the Wolves ask Ant Man what he thought before shipping KAT out? I bet he would have lobbied to keep KAT. GM better not pull that crap again by trading Jaden. If we hadn’t traded KAT, we could have said goodbye to Gobert and Conley this next offseason or shipped their expiring contracts, or simply not extended either of them. At worst it was one more season of luxury tax. And do we really think Naz and NAW are going to get big contracts? Maybe 15 to low 20 something million per year for each person. Not having a Conley contract would have bumped one of them up to acceptable value.
How do you know that they didn’t ask Ant? Ant said he was practicing 3s all summer to get ready to play next to Randle, if that’s true, he was practicing before the trade
They aren't good, period. The offense is beyond painful to watch. Randle is a stiff. So is Rudy. Jaden is a max contract player who does nothing but defend. Conley is cooked. Painful.
Fire finch? This Kat trade and Randle was thrown into his lap Like a dead fish days before training camp.. everyone acts like it’s so easy to make rotations work when half our team can’t shoot. Not a finch problem but a TC problem.
we are 4th in the league in 3pt percentage, yall don't realize we are taking 40 THREES A GAME on AVERAGE, it only SEEMS like we are missing a lot, we are shooting them better than almost every team!
to be fair, finch has an absolute hardon for julius randle. And the first part of much of the season, and i would argue still happens, the children are running the daycare.. Offensive genius yet 3/5 of the players on the floor are constantly standing around with a finger up their ass. I dont know if i want to fire finch, but he deserves as much criticism as he is getting for sure.
The truth is that Kat is a plus for any nba team. Look at the timberwolves offense without him a complete disaster with the man guy being a inefficient selfish player and Look at the improvement of the Knicks offense this year with Kat
1. Knicks added Mikal Briges, not just Towns 2. Knicks defense took a MASSIVE hit from last season with the addition of Towns too, they were top 10 last season, now they are a BELOW AVERAGE defense. We are still a top 7 defensive team this year allowing just 1 point per game more than last season Check back when "plus for any team" Towns reminds you that he is actually a MINUS for any team come playoff time :D
The team was on its way down once the Gobert trade was made. Everything after that has been trying to cover that mistake. And now you can add Jaden's contact to that mix.
This isn't super hard. Two years ago the team fell apart because of Rudy. He pouts as bad as Randle and quits when he's not getting the ball. This year Rudy is at the center of a lot of controversy. Randle isn't handling it well, but he's right. My goodness, even Russell was right. He just didn't handle it like a pro. But Rudy has got to go. He thinks he's a scorer. He's not. He can't catch the ball. Half the rebounds fumble out of his hands. We need two young, above average centers who can run and jump like Dallas. Not an albatross like Rudy.
@@StillKeepOnLosing Last year, yes. This year? Rudy is the problem. Connelly may be struggling because he doesn't have the ball and Randle does. NAW is shining bright. And ANT is inefficient this year because there is no cohesion or defined roles. And he's 23. He has to grow. But Rudy and Randle have to go.
@jonstrocity Problem is your leader is toxic and talks too much, bro has 0 bball IQ, cant run a team, and has the lowest offensive rating of all starters in the league. Go look. Fake mj is trash lol
@@StillKeepOnLosing delusional Rudy haters, not seeing Gobert has multiple 15+ rebound games this year! Gotta use the Mike & Rudy pick&roll more often tho
HAHAHA saying that it was obvious this team wasnt going to better than last years team EVEN THOUGH when this trade happened you guys said we had a better team. Also saying Rudys rebounding has taken a hit like it wasnt elite anyways. We had KAT next to him all year averaging 10 rebounds he was a huge reason why we rebounded well. Rudy has never been an elite rebounder. How can he be a elite rebounder if he cant catch a bounce pass does that even make sense? KAT was the most unselfish player we have ever had and its obviously showing this year. Also how would you even know that TIm Connelly wouldnt ruin this team if he knows glen taylor is going to be the owner? You ever think of that? He has a opt out for this specific reason
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t gobert lead the entire nba in rebounds per game the year before the wolves got him? Isn’t he 6th among active players in all time rebounds? The guy averaged 13+ rebounds a game for 4 years straight. He certainly was an elite rebounder at one point
Towns doesn't contribute much to winning games and Towns is a bonified postseason liability UNPLAYABLE in 50% of the tournament games he's played. Trading Towns was not a loss to the team.
@@nealbaker1718I always have to ask you how does Rudy contribute to winning ? Did you see him last night for example? He’s awful, aging and overpaid. Can’t catch anything, shoot, moves like a young giraffe, bad for team morale and chemistry.. Kat is contributing to winning more than this current front court is..
Exaclty that’s what they can’t admit. They all said that this trade made the team better and now Mackey is walking backwards and saying no this trade makes the team better for the future. NO you said that this team was better with kat off the team because you don’t like kat plain and simple.
@@WHASTUDIOS44 Hello again Miles Paw Clearly Rudy isn't playing like his previous seasons. Last season's Timberwolves top FIVE 3-man lineup combos has Towns NO WHERE on it. Last season's Timberwolves top FIVE 2-man lineup combos has Towns NO WHERE on it. Rudy was on both lists while Towns was not. Townsaholics are drunk on Towns' fool's gold stats. Towns was UNPLAYABLE in 50% of ALL A of his postseason games. Towns is a bonified postseason liability. LET THE ABOVE FACTS SINK IN‼️ Towns is also a low basketball IQ decision-maker and he made enemies with the refs. Towns is of a loser culture and character. That's his M.O. among the league. Towns hasn't changed; apparently Rudy has some
is he out there playing? If you are always injured and cant show up to work, being good at your job doesn't mean much. Towns has missed more games the last 5 years than MITCHELL ROBINSON!
how phil gonna say he holds the vikings to a championship standard when just the other day he was congratulating the vikings for doing better than expectations pre season and then losing. Not factoring in how expectations change as information and the season moves along
You question the Rudy extension but not the Kat trade. You make false statements about Kat aging while we're watching Rudy age right before us. Kat played hard every game, he was unselfish.. Oh and btw his rebounds are up while you're complaining about Rudy's being down🤷🏾♂️
@ another know it all that knows nothing🤷🏾♂️🤣😂 You're definitely a casual because Kat played with the second unit in the Phoenix series and would lead the runs that kept us in the lead in those games. 😂🤣 Where was Ant and the rest of the team in the WCF and where was Ant in game 7 against Denver? 😂🤣
It’s not trading KAT that was bad, it was the return. It was the fact that someone of KATs caliber got traded for Divincenzo and a bag of chips. It was we didn’t get at least 3 first round picks for a star and instead got a protected draft pick that’s not guaranteed
@ selfish basketball players don't lead their teams in assists Towns last year 3.0 assists, 2.9turnovers Randle this year - *4.3* assists, 3.0turnovers as I said, Randle haters = brain dead
Nice job ignore the real issue Phil. Per usual. It’s Randle. He’s a shitty fit. They would be a 3/4 seed had they not make the trade. It’s a joke you don’t cite trade as the reason for. Basketball reasons. Randle is a cancer. It’s not gobert cost them the game. It’s their lazy start. Randle was benched because of that
How can anyone say Connelly has done a really good job? Overpaid for Gobert and then doubled down and extended Gobert for no reason, hasn’t drafted a single contributing player yet.
The Timberwolves basically said “let’s surround Anthony Edwards with the worst possible complementary players that take away all of his strengths”. Tim Connelly has been awful. Ant had a crazy playoff run and Kat was a difference maker in the first 2 rounds. The Rudy trade has been a failure.
Ant is surrounded by a veteran point guard, former All-Star, reigning Defensive Player of the Year and 6th man of the year. Maybe Ant is just an overrate trash who cant lead a team and your delusion is stopping you from seeing it🤔
I thought you jokers were waiting until 20 games in to make your assumptions if this team was good or not? Meanwhile we (the fans) all knew they were trash after a few weeks into the season.
Judd, Randle's silent brooding personality is dominating that locker room and has changed everything. ANT is 23 years old. He's got an excuse. Randle is 30. He has none and he HAS to go.
Nice job ignore the real issue Phil. Per usual. It’s Randle. He’s a shitty fit. They would be a 3/4 seed had they not make the trade. It’s a joke you don’t cite trade as the reason for. Basketball reasons. Randle is a cancer. It’s not gobert cost them the game. It’s their lazy start. Randle was benched because of that. Gobert is playing bigger minutes because they traded our other big. Cripes. These takes. 🤦🏽♂️
We have seen 30+ "rebuilding seasons." That is why people are not paying attention to the wolves. When they are back in contention, then people will start watching the games again. I hope something will bring that soon. That would suck if we have to wait 20 years again for relevancy.
Nice job ignore the real issue Phil. Per usual. It’s Randle. He’s a shitty fit. They would be a 3/4 seed had they not make the trade. It’s a joke you don’t cite trade as the reason for. Basketball reasons. Randle is a cancer
1,000% agree with Judd. Although as a coach, Finch needs to be able to motivate and hold his players accountable. I also agree that finch is way too loyal to players. He needs to have the balls to make the right moves for the team.
I haven't blamed Finch, maybe a little Tim after the late trade, but Finch is moving down my list because he's been so unwilling to play younger players and call timeouts when things are starting to turn. He needs to be a coach.
KAT was a lynch pen type of guy, not just on the court but maybe even more so off the court. Not saying we shouldn’t have traded him but he left a big hole. It’s not Finch’s fault that he now has a team that’s kinda floundering around trying to find a new identify. Fans have a right to be frustrated but need to be realistic. This was never going to be a team that’s kinda floundering gelled in a month. Gonna take time and may take a few more trades to get the right pieces
The reason there is so much angst is a bigger picture conversation as the heat builds now that the fan bases are developing championship expectations. It’s a horrible time for the MN sports landscape at the moment. Vikings SB contender bounced, Wild injuries every game, Wolves regressing with an unclear vision of the plan, and the Twins cratering with too many PR nightmares to list. MN sports is plagued with uncertainty, question marks and polarizing conversations across the board with the temp turned all the way up. The wolves feel like they entered the relevance chat just to step in line to provide another kick in the mouth.
I’m fed up because there seems to be no clear direction of the team. I can live with trading KAT to have more future flexibility, but then you actually have to commit to the future by playing young guys!
we traded Karl-Anthony "choker" Towns so we can win the championship, the direction we're going is clear from the star, we are going for the Larry O'Brien trophy!
So Finch can coach this team 5 (4 1/2ish) seasons and the team still not have a true identity? So ANT is still mostly regarded as a one on one player? ANT’s game has gotten better from HIS own individual performances but does the coaching staff or Finch’s philosophy have any positive impact on ANT’s growth or the team? Finch’s philosophy has not developed a true identity that the team can fall back on in times of adversity (on/off the court). Name another top level coach that has or would coach the same player as talented as ANT and still not have an identity for Him 5 seasons later, or have structured an offense around him with set plays that can help his game be more stable around winning vs what we’ve seen. In The WCF did the Wolves not look over matched and outclassed/coached then w/KAT, can we really say the KAT trade wasn’t necessary, either way they looked bad the last time we seen KAT on the Wolves and since He’s gone still look like a team with no identity. It’s clearly coaching, Finch was a nice upgrade over the previous coaches but once you sell your future for Rudy and push up the championship timeline the coaches needed to step up as well.
Some of the complaints this tesm recieves just makes no sense. Its like you guys dont realize that these players werent here last year. Why would you expect them to be what they were last year when this isnt the team from last year???
The west had a very down year last year. The wolves had a great season. They took advantage of the bad year from most of the conference. A Gobert team is not going to have a long shelf life. He is miserable to watch and doesn't seem like anyone has ever liked playing with him. Both Finch and Connelly are both average to slightly above average at what they do. Finch has rarely seemed like he had good control of his teams
Its easy for Wolves fans to say Randle sucks now, for years hes been destroying the team. Now Kat is having a carrer year, what is the common denominator?
The Wolves need to focus on a mini-rebuild. Everyone knows this experiment did not work. We need to play the hell out of these young guys at this point. Playing only eight is only doing future harm. This team is not going anywhere this year. Let’s spin it into a positive and let our young guys run. See what we have. The energy they bring will at least lighten up the environment
Losers like you should be BANNED from the championship parade we are gonna have this year! Go be a Wizards fan if you enjoy seeing 19 years olds flopping and bricking 3s more than watching this beautiful team full of tough guys develop chemistry and win it all in 6 months!
All three of you gentlemen do a fantastic job talking about the team. I admire the thick skin all of you have and I salute you for it…let’s see what happens by the trade deadline
I think we have a tendency to take for granted just being good and competitive. We seriously, I included, piss and moan when things aren't as good as last year and we don't just immediately see progress, or we even see a regression back to being slightly above averge with a revamped core roster, we start to bitch. We CAN still do well, we probably aren't winning the title this year with this roster, but they're developing chemistry. I've taken this all for granted myself, and there are frustrating ways that the team could be better, most criticisms are valid, but Minnesota sports fans are very impatient because of how long it's been, and literally only the Twins have won a professional mens sports championship. We can be toxic because of that.
Rudy has this team handcuffed. What is his trade value and how is he going to be traded after what the wolves gave up? The KAT trade was clearly about money and tying things up that wouldn’t allow further moves or signings. Julius has to go or learn to play defense. Keep Donte and find a way to resign naz. We need a bench scorer. Jaden needs to step up and be a max contract level player on offense. We have guys who need to do better at their individual roles and give a damn that we are .500 basically
While I agree the team has had bad energy this season, I disagree it's all on the players. I will say though that I really don't like the way Ant starts most games and how he disappears in some big moments. Having said that, dumping on the players without recognizing the role of the coach and management and the negative impact it has had on the energy and morale of the team is one-sided. And to be clear, I agree Donte is playing good right now as a byproduct of the energy issues this team is having, and it's true his contract is good, but I'm still not a buyer of his and I think Phil and Judd will have to eat their words propping him up.
The problem the Timberwolves have is they have not played the last part of their bench.Or their third string on their bench to see what they really have to be able to wonder if they could afford to get rid of nas and or naw. We will never know since we traded Kat.
Here was a crazy thought don’t extend Rudy keep KAT. We have to get rid of Rudy, Ant is acting the same a Spyda did in Utah when he was done with Rudy.
The NBA in general has been kind of boring this year. The West is full of .500 mediocre teams. Half the veteran stars are injured all the time. The only great team is OKC. The East seems to be getting better but it’s still probably just 3 teams with a chance… Cavs, Celtics, Knicks.
When Finch comes up with a lazy answer before he made a change to the starting lineup deserved to be lashed out at. It was lazy. He made a change and now they're playing better. That's amazing.
Julius Randle got to go we cannot win with him on the roster he is losing the game more than not please we have a great team last year with Randle and I hope everybody see that
This team made me cancel my subscription 2 weeks ago. They just aren't entertaining to watch. In fact, the entire NBA is not very intriguing to draw me in right now.
Divincenzo is such a great all-around player. No wants to say it, but ANT is often low energy and is becoming embarrassing with the complaints on every shot. I’m starting to hate him.
Jaden should have been included in the Gobert trade. Would have saved us 2 first round picks. Players like him and Herb Jones who also can't shoot threes are overated.
A lot of wolves fans want their cake and eat it too. They want kat, but they also want a championship level roster, when with the 2nd apron you can't have both. If we kept kat, we would lose key depth players in the off-season, and thus be in a suns situation where we dont have depth, and we don't have the money to improve it The nuggets (who Connelly built) ALSO took a step back. They made key trades and got bounced in the first round, and then won the chip.
@joshp1550 And then we have even less depth at PG, our least deep position AND no defensive anchor. Our defense would be much worse if it was Kat and Naz.
Not true. They hit money on their draft picks in Dillingham and Shannon. Finch is just letting politics prevent us from seeing it. I'm very confident Miller has a role as a contributing player in this league. Plus the the way the 2nd apron is set up, lots of talented, but not star level guys are screwed and forced to take minimum contracts because it's all teams with winning aspirations can offer. Trust there would have been quite a few wanting a chance to play for a title on a winning team. What affect did the 9th best player on the Celtics have with them winning the championship? Same with Denver two years ago? People love to overcomplicate things. Championships are won with stars/all-stars and the right 3-4 pieces around them. IMO the two most overrated things in the NBA are 1) First round draft picks outside of the top 12 and 2) depth.
This team is a disaster. Ant, Naz, and DiVincenzo are the only players I’d keep. Get rid of the rest (outside of the unknowns of Shannon Jr and Dillingham)
In my opinion the biggest difference between this season and last season?..... A-Rod and Lore have not been a presence with the team. Glen Taylor has proven to be the worst owner in NBA history. He is a cheater and i have zero respect for him or his ability to own a team.
@@WHASTUDIOS44 I'm guessing you don't understand what the long term effects of being in the 2nd apron of the luxury tax would have been if they kept Kat? Besides ... Kat had NINE seasons with the Wolves. He never made other players better. You see he was not in the top 9 player rotations w plus/minus last season? I guess if you are ok with paying him as the 9th highest salary in the NBA... Well, that's a typical Glen Taylor move. Maybe Kat looked him in the eye and promised to improve, like Wiggins did?
@ you said all that just to say we will be worst off for years to come lol we are paying Rudy Gobert 43 million a year no good comes from that.. no Rudy and we wouldn’t have to deal the 2nd option away but maybe it’s just me. And you’re saying he never made others better who on this current roster makes others better besides old Mike maybe? Lmk. I’m guessing you don’t understand a few things but that’s irrelevant to me.
@ does Rudy make others better? Ant is a great player and he’s young but he doesn’t make others better… Randle definitely not. Naz no. This team has zero chemistry this season.
My list of players i most disliked in the nba. This goes back a few years ago. Ayton Wiggins DLO Draymond Gobert Randle Ingram Westbrook Jalen Green Zion Ben Simmons I did not like the Gobert trade. I like centers that can at least hoist up 1-2 three pointers per game on average. We got one of my most disliked players back in the Kat trade. McDaniels is the most over rated pile i have seen in a long time. He literally is doing the same stuff he did in year 2. What improvements has he made? Literally zero. And he looks like a moper just like Gobert and Randle. No wonder why the vibes are off. Duh!!!!!
Jaden sucks, Gobert is horrible, Randle is a cancer, Edwards needs to go see the Wizard and get a heart (he needs the energy of Westbrook), Conley is done, Naz not the same as last year and not a great rebounder, Rob is too small and will never by great, just average at best, other than that, we are just fine. They are horrible to watch, with or without KAT.
Sorry, but when i watch this team, i actually at times see purposeful sabatoge play going on multiple times per game. On top of the stupid low IQ stuff going on.
Why is Mackey always scolding the fans, the fans have more play experience than all three of you guys put together. I’m afraid you guys are just becoming KFans wannabees and I’m getting close to not watching. Mackey with his condescending therapy crap and Judd just a go alone to get alone. The bottom line is the fans are correct to keep these teams foot to the fire. You guy breed mediocracy, and it’s becoming sickening. Move out of the way and let Reusse and Randy run the show I trust them more than you three!
Not fed up. Giving up. They are what they are. No way they go as deep in playoffs as they did last year. Maybe they make it to playoffs. I’ll enjoy them the best I can this year without big expectations and hope for a fuller roster around Ant next year. Also, not mad about KAT trade. It had to be done.
The Goal is to get a team that makes Ant better in his prime. This team is not the combo that they need. TC got rid of a toxic contract in KAT. Ant needs maturity and smarts. That means you can get rid of Randle, McDaniels, maybe Rudy and Conley only comes off the bench. Finch has not been the caliber of coach that can hold this team accountable. They have tuned him out. I would try to get some of our future picks back. I would play Leonard, Minott, Donte, Dillingham, and any player that could be an asset to Ant. If they aren't good enough, we can move them too.
The KAT trade had to happen or this team is hamstrung forever. The fan base is tired of Julius Randle. When Randle dominates the ball, ANT just watches him b/c he's trying not to get in his way. Randle has too big of a negative personality so he is holding ANT back. If they don't trade Randle by the deadline, then I will question the GM's job. We cannot lose NAW and Naz for Randle because we cannot with with Randle. We have slow starts... and look who's in the starting lineup. Randle. And we are amazing in the fourth quarter, and who's not in the closing lineup. Randle.
Go play NBA 2K if you want to play GM. Like them or leave them but this is the team we have. See the good in the situation. Our future is still bright. Timberwolves fans suck.
Suffered for decades, went to the Western Conference finals, and then the year after we get to watch Julius Randle and a not serious team… any fan base would be frustrated.
I AM not frustrated 1 bit, speak for yourself! nobody is FORCING you to watch the games. Last year's team got SWEPT in the conference finals and it was clear that's our ceiling with Towns!
Julius is leading our team in assists and is our 2nd best player by every metric, this team is going further than the Knicks in the playoffs this year, last night was a trailer of what we are gonna look like in the playoffs. You miss last year's team NOW, but I can wager you were one of those people saying we are doomed when we matched with Phoenix in the 1st round!
If your team is leading the league in CLUTCH games and you are frustrated then there's clearly something wrong with YOU
@@BeerAndJointsAllDayGood for you.
Thinking a center will age well is crazy thinking especially when he’s shown he’s not aware of his offensive ability
By "aware" you mean he doesn't realize that he has no offensive game?
@ correct
We all understand why the trade was made, but you guys have to stop minimizing KAT. Bottom line is the Knicks have a better record this year than last and the Wolves have a worse record than last year. It's pretty obvious losing KAT had a huge impact on the team. It can't be all a coincidence and just the team all of a sudden becoming less professional. I wouldn't say the Gobert trade was a failure, but it seems like a lot to give up for 1 good season. And, one could argue they could have kept Walter Kessler and accomplished the same thing, or at least close, plus he's younger and more athletic.
The knicks traded 5 first round picks for Mikal bridges. And yet you think it is all Kat over there. They basically have a light version of an all star starting 5 with one awesome 6th man.
@@WheresWaldo05Agreed. Kat isn't the difference alone
Kessler would have been on the end of the bench had the Gobert trade not happened. Towns was the starting center and Naz was the backup. To assume Kessler would have even been in the rotation is foolish.
@@WheresWaldo05 and kat has been their best player so he’s right either way
@@DFWMentor Kessler would’ve been in rotation at least without Rudy. Fool yourself all you want though. Would’ve done the same thing for 35 million less a year you see the dilemma ?
Stop saying that Anderson was more important than Kat , stop disrespecting kat , Anderson is on the warriors and they are in 11 seed so Anderson doesn't move the niddle for any team, Kat was the best player on the T-wolves last season cause he was by far the most efficient and he's a team player very unselfish, now you got a bunch of selfish players starting by Ant
I agreed with the Gobert trade, I hated the extension.
I agreed with the KAT trade, but I hate that we have Julius Randle.
Tim Connelly is trying so hard to make the Gobert timeline work and it just has to end. We NEED an athletic center to put next to Ant that isn’t a complete buffoon on offense. And please let’s start just start Dillingham.
Ideal starting 5 in the future:
Ant
Dillingham
Donte
Jaden (we still need his defense on the perimeter)
Athletic Big
I didn’t agree with the trade and understood it as a short term boost given his age but don’t understand to keep justifying the Rudy move by resigning a 32 year old center
Agree. Trade Rudy and Randle for whatever they may get in return. Play the younger guys so they learn and give energy off the bench. No chemistry at this moment.
Never forget we could have just had walker kessler and all of our draft picks instead.
I would take Naz over Jaden in that line up. Regardless, that's a mid-level playoff team at best. You need at least 2 all star level players to win a title, Ant is one, but I can't see any of those others being the 2nd one.
Please get Rudy out of this trash. Then, like Kat, ya will have no one else to blame lmfao.
No one wanted a Gobert extension even at a discount. He’s old now. We should have seen the falloff coming with him given how little he contributed during Olympics, and his age. Same goes for Conley. Conley is not what he was. There’s a plummeting projection for this team ever since younger KAT trade. KAT could have been Ant Man’s running man. Why in the world didn’t the Wolves ask Ant Man what he thought before shipping KAT out? I bet he would have lobbied to keep KAT. GM better not pull that crap again by trading Jaden. If we hadn’t traded KAT, we could have said goodbye to Gobert and Conley this next offseason or shipped their expiring contracts, or simply not extended either of them. At worst it was one more season of luxury tax. And do we really think Naz and NAW are going to get big contracts? Maybe 15 to low 20 something million per year for each person. Not having a Conley contract would have bumped one of them up to acceptable value.
How do you know that they didn’t ask Ant? Ant said he was practicing 3s all summer to get ready to play next to Randle, if that’s true, he was practicing before the trade
They aren't good, period. The offense is beyond painful to watch. Randle is a stiff. So is Rudy. Jaden is a max contract player who does nothing but defend. Conley is cooked. Painful.
Jaden is a max contract player? Tf you talking about? 😂
@@Tommythademonhe’s making 26 million.
@peytonspehn6291 I was thinking the same thing. 25 mil no where near max money
Duh, fake mj is the most inneficient player in the nba and bro taking too many shots. Smh. Wake up silly kids. 9+10 is 19. Lulz. Sad wolves fans
@StillKeepOnLosing - maybe Ant is inefficient, but I’d rather he take even more shots than the rest of the roster
Fire finch? This Kat trade and Randle was thrown into his lap
Like a dead fish days before training camp.. everyone acts like it’s so easy to make rotations work when half our team can’t shoot. Not a finch problem but a TC problem.
Exactly. On top of trying to work around having Rudy Gobert on offense. Tough job.
we are 4th in the league in 3pt percentage, yall don't realize we are taking 40 THREES A GAME on AVERAGE, it only SEEMS like we are missing a lot, we are shooting them better than almost every team!
to be fair, finch has an absolute hardon for julius randle. And the first part of much of the season, and i would argue still happens, the children are running the daycare.. Offensive genius yet 3/5 of the players on the floor are constantly standing around with a finger up their ass. I dont know if i want to fire finch, but he deserves as much criticism as he is getting for sure.
Am I the only one who remembers we could have just had walker kessler and all of our draft picks or am I drunk?
I miss walker 😢
I believe he would still be on his rookie contract right now too
The truth is that Kat is a plus for any nba team. Look at the timberwolves offense without him a complete disaster with the man guy being a inefficient selfish player and Look at the improvement of the Knicks offense this year with Kat
Not to mention the fact that KAT is top 2 in rebounds per game. Rudy is supposed to be a better rebounder but has been asscheeks this year
We have the 15th ranked offense this year, and we were 17th last season. The offense wasn’t any better with KAT tbh, we were terrible
1. Knicks added Mikal Briges, not just Towns
2. Knicks defense took a MASSIVE hit from last season with the addition of Towns too, they were top 10 last season, now they are a BELOW AVERAGE defense. We are still a top 7 defensive team this year allowing just 1 point per game more than last season
Check back when "plus for any team" Towns reminds you that he is actually a MINUS for any team come playoff time :D
@@nydibs Towns fanboys have goldfish memory
The team was on its way down once the Gobert trade was made. Everything after that has been trying to cover that mistake. And now you can add Jaden's contact to that mix.
Yup.
Karl Anthony Towns is #2 in the NBA in rebounds. Gobert fawking sucks! Should've traded him, not KAT.
No one wants him. He sucks.
Nobody wants Gobert for the salary he wants, that's why
You ever stop and think no one wanted Gobert?
@@MikeHawk-00 not one team in the league it’s sad.
Before Connelly gave him that ridiculous extension, there absolutely would have been a market for his soon expiring contract.
This isn't super hard.
Two years ago the team fell apart because of Rudy. He pouts as bad as Randle and quits when he's not getting the ball.
This year Rudy is at the center of a lot of controversy. Randle isn't handling it well, but he's right. My goodness, even Russell was right. He just didn't handle it like a pro. But Rudy has got to go.
He thinks he's a scorer. He's not. He can't catch the ball. Half the rebounds fumble out of his hands.
We need two young, above average centers who can run and jump like Dallas. Not an albatross like Rudy.
Delusional. Utah Jazz Brothers the reason ya even relavant lmfao. Fake mj is the most inneficient player in the NBA. Lulz
@@StillKeepOnLosing Last year, yes. This year? Rudy is the problem. Connelly may be struggling because he doesn't have the ball and Randle does. NAW is shining bright. And ANT is inefficient this year because there is no cohesion or defined roles. And he's 23. He has to grow. But Rudy and Randle have to go.
@jonstrocity Problem is your leader is toxic and talks too much, bro has 0 bball IQ, cant run a team, and has the lowest offensive rating of all starters in the league. Go look. Fake mj is trash lol
@@StillKeepOnLosing delusional Rudy haters, not seeing Gobert has multiple 15+ rebound games this year! Gotta use the Mike & Rudy pick&roll more often tho
HAHAHA saying that it was obvious this team wasnt going to better than last years team EVEN THOUGH when this trade happened you guys said we had a better team. Also saying Rudys rebounding has taken a hit like it wasnt elite anyways. We had KAT next to him all year averaging 10 rebounds he was a huge reason why we rebounded well. Rudy has never been an elite rebounder. How can he be a elite rebounder if he cant catch a bounce pass does that even make sense? KAT was the most unselfish player we have ever had and its obviously showing this year. Also how would you even know that TIm Connelly wouldnt ruin this team if he knows glen taylor is going to be the owner? You ever think of that? He has a opt out for this specific reason
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t gobert lead the entire nba in rebounds per game the year before the wolves got him? Isn’t he 6th among active players in all time rebounds? The guy averaged 13+ rebounds a game for 4 years straight. He certainly was an elite rebounder at one point
Towns doesn't contribute much to winning games and Towns is a bonified postseason liability UNPLAYABLE in 50% of the tournament games he's played.
Trading Towns was not a loss to the team.
@@nealbaker1718I always have to ask you how does Rudy contribute to winning ? Did you see him last night for example? He’s awful, aging and overpaid. Can’t catch anything, shoot, moves like a young giraffe, bad for team morale and chemistry.. Kat is contributing to winning more than this current front court is..
Exaclty that’s what they can’t admit. They all said that this trade made the team better and now Mackey is walking backwards and saying no this trade makes the team better for the future. NO you said that this team was better with kat off the team because you don’t like kat plain and simple.
@@WHASTUDIOS44
Hello again Miles Paw
Clearly Rudy isn't playing like his previous seasons.
Last season's Timberwolves top FIVE 3-man lineup combos has Towns NO WHERE on it.
Last season's Timberwolves top FIVE 2-man lineup combos has Towns NO WHERE on it.
Rudy was on both lists while Towns was not.
Townsaholics are drunk on Towns' fool's gold stats.
Towns was UNPLAYABLE in 50% of ALL A of his postseason games. Towns is a bonified postseason liability.
LET THE ABOVE FACTS SINK IN‼️
Towns is also a low basketball IQ decision-maker and he made enemies with the refs.
Towns is of a loser culture and character. That's his M.O. among the league.
Towns hasn't changed; apparently Rudy has some
Also talking about KATs value plummeting… LMAO do they think his value has declined averaging 25/13 on amazing efficiency?
is he out there playing? If you are always injured and cant show up to work, being good at your job doesn't mean much. Towns has missed more games the last 5 years than MITCHELL ROBINSON!
how phil gonna say he holds the vikings to a championship standard when just the other day he was congratulating the vikings for doing better than expectations pre season and then losing. Not factoring in how expectations change as information and the season moves along
You question the Rudy extension but not the Kat trade. You make false statements about Kat aging while we're watching Rudy age right before us. Kat played hard every game, he was unselfish.. Oh and btw his rebounds are up while you're complaining about Rudy's being down🤷🏾♂️
Wtf are you talking about?? With one exception (Denver), KAT was a no-show in the playoffs. Remember him saying, "Next question."?
@ another know it all that knows nothing🤷🏾♂️🤣😂
You're definitely a casual because Kat played with the second unit in the Phoenix series and would lead the runs that kept us in the lead in those games. 😂🤣
Where was Ant and the rest of the team in the WCF and where was Ant in game 7 against Denver? 😂🤣
@@DFWMentorRudy has been a no show in the postseason since he’s entered the league.
It’s not trading KAT that was bad, it was the return. It was the fact that someone of KATs caliber got traded for Divincenzo and a bag of chips. It was we didn’t get at least 3 first round picks for a star and instead got a protected draft pick that’s not guaranteed
The only way we would’ve got 3 first round picks for KAT was if we traded him 4 years ago
Why are all Randle haters so brain dead bro
@@nydibs I mean he’s certainly worth that now would you say?
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay because Randle haters know the difference between good basketball and selfish play basketbapl
@ selfish basketball players don't lead their teams in assists
Towns last year 3.0 assists, 2.9turnovers
Randle this year - *4.3* assists, 3.0turnovers
as I said, Randle haters = brain dead
Fed up with Randle. Fed up with Finchy's loyalty to Randle. That's all.
Nice job ignore the real issue Phil. Per usual. It’s Randle. He’s a shitty fit. They would be a 3/4 seed had they not make the trade.
It’s a joke you don’t cite trade as the reason for. Basketball reasons. Randle is a cancer.
It’s not gobert cost them the game.
It’s their lazy start. Randle was benched because of that
How can anyone say Connelly has done a really good job? Overpaid for Gobert and then doubled down and extended Gobert for no reason, hasn’t drafted a single contributing player yet.
The Timberwolves basically said “let’s surround Anthony Edwards with the worst possible complementary players that take away all of his strengths”. Tim Connelly has been awful. Ant had a crazy playoff run and Kat was a difference maker in the first 2 rounds. The Rudy trade has been a failure.
Ant is surrounded by a veteran point guard, former All-Star, reigning Defensive Player of the Year and 6th man of the year. Maybe Ant is just an overrate trash who cant lead a team and your delusion is stopping you from seeing it🤔
Expectations have increased off of last season.
It’s my fault guys, decided to b a full time fan and look at the team now. This one’s on me!
How dare you
I thought you jokers were waiting until 20 games in to make your assumptions if this team was good or not? Meanwhile we (the fans) all knew they were trash after a few weeks into the season.
Bullshit explanation,, it was a horrible jump the gun trade for scrubs
I agree with Judd hold them accountable including Edwards.
Judd, Randle's silent brooding personality is dominating that locker room and has changed everything.
ANT is 23 years old. He's got an excuse. Randle is 30. He has none and he HAS to go.
ask any former teammate of Julius about him, good luck hearing anyone say something bad about his presence
These guys are a joke, don’t blame finch but he won’t play any young youthful players that will give them a spark on offense!
I can't wait to see what happens tonight. This is a great TV drama series.
Nice job ignore the real issue Phil. Per usual. It’s Randle. He’s a shitty fit. They would be a 3/4 seed had they not make the trade.
It’s a joke you don’t cite trade as the reason for. Basketball reasons. Randle is a cancer.
It’s not gobert cost them the game.
It’s their lazy start. Randle was benched because of that.
Gobert is playing bigger minutes because they traded our other big. Cripes. These takes. 🤦🏽♂️
Stop with Kat takes. They are bad. He’s top 5 mvp right now. These takes are a joke.
We have seen 30+ "rebuilding seasons." That is why people are not paying attention to the wolves. When they are back in contention, then people will start watching the games again. I hope something will bring that soon. That would suck if we have to wait 20 years again for relevancy.
Nice job ignore the real issue Phil. Per usual. It’s Randle. He’s a shitty fit. They would be a 3/4 seed had they not make the trade.
It’s a joke you don’t cite trade as the reason for. Basketball reasons. Randle is a cancer
The worst part is, we’d be a 3/4 seed even now if we just took care of business vs teams like Portland
1,000% agree with Judd. Although as a coach, Finch needs to be able to motivate and hold his players accountable. I also agree that finch is way too loyal to players. He needs to have the balls to make the right moves for the team.
A men, Phil. DO NOT let Randle hi-jack this club. You are right. If he stays, Connelly just destroyed his good will.
Gobert is doing that with Randle already. This team is bad.
@@WHASTUDIOS44 Yeah, they need Rudy and Randle gone.
I’m sick of this. KAT is in the MVP race rn…
I haven't blamed Finch, maybe a little Tim after the late trade, but Finch is moving down my list because he's been so unwilling to play younger players and call timeouts when things are starting to turn. He needs to be a coach.
KAT was a lynch pen type of guy, not just on the court but maybe even more so off the court. Not saying we shouldn’t have traded him but he left a big hole. It’s not Finch’s fault that he now has a team that’s kinda floundering around trying to find a new identify. Fans have a right to be frustrated but need to be realistic. This was never going to be a team that’s kinda floundering gelled in a month. Gonna take time and may take a few more trades to get the right pieces
The reason there is so much angst is a bigger picture conversation as the heat builds now that the fan bases are developing championship expectations. It’s a horrible time for the MN sports landscape at the moment. Vikings SB contender bounced, Wild injuries every game, Wolves regressing with an unclear vision of the plan, and the Twins cratering with too many PR nightmares to list. MN sports is plagued with uncertainty, question marks and polarizing conversations across the board with the temp turned all the way up. The wolves feel like they entered the relevance chat just to step in line to provide another kick in the mouth.
I’m fed up because there seems to be no clear direction of the team. I can live with trading KAT to have more future flexibility, but then you actually have to commit to the future by playing young guys!
we traded Karl-Anthony "choker" Towns so we can win the championship, the direction we're going is clear from the star, we are going for the Larry O'Brien trophy!
So Finch can coach this team 5 (4 1/2ish) seasons and the team still not have a true identity? So ANT is still mostly regarded as a one on one player? ANT’s game has gotten better from HIS own individual performances but does the coaching staff or Finch’s philosophy have any positive impact on ANT’s growth or the team? Finch’s philosophy has not developed a true identity that the team can fall back on in times of adversity (on/off the court). Name another top level coach that has or would coach the same player as talented as ANT and still not have an identity for Him 5 seasons later, or have structured an offense around him with set plays that can help his game be more stable around winning vs what we’ve seen. In The WCF did the Wolves not look over matched and outclassed/coached then w/KAT, can we really say the KAT trade wasn’t necessary, either way they looked bad the last time we seen KAT on the Wolves and since He’s gone still look like a team with no identity. It’s clearly coaching, Finch was a nice upgrade over the previous coaches but once you sell your future for Rudy and push up the championship timeline the coaches needed to step up as well.
Finch is terrible. He’s not a capable head coach
The timing of the KAT trade was likely due to not wanting to sabotage their off-season season ticket sales
They completely mismanaged the roster. We are now waiting for a few season to go by to get to Ants prime.
Some of the complaints this tesm recieves just makes no sense. Its like you guys dont realize that these players werent here last year. Why would you expect them to be what they were last year when this isnt the team from last year???
I need the wolves to step up and make the playoffs, lets settle this MN vs DEN playoff best of 3. Let’s go!
The west had a very down year last year. The wolves had a great season. They took advantage of the bad year from most of the conference. A Gobert team is not going to have a long shelf life. He is miserable to watch and doesn't seem like anyone has ever liked playing with him. Both Finch and Connelly are both average to slightly above average at what they do. Finch has rarely seemed like he had good control of his teams
The West kinda sucks this year too, besides OKC. Houston is basically doing what Minnesota did last season, but with a worse roster
Its easy for Wolves fans to say Randle sucks now, for years hes been destroying the team. Now Kat is having a carrer year, what is the common denominator?
The Wolves need to focus on a mini-rebuild. Everyone knows this experiment did not work. We need to play the hell out of these young guys at this point. Playing only eight is only doing future harm. This team is not going anywhere this year. Let’s spin it into a positive and let our young guys run. See what we have. The energy they bring will at least lighten up the environment
Losers like you should be BANNED from the championship parade we are gonna have this year! Go be a Wizards fan if you enjoy seeing 19 years olds flopping and bricking 3s more than watching this beautiful team full of tough guys develop chemistry and win it all in 6 months!
All three of you gentlemen do a fantastic job talking about the team. I admire the thick skin all of you have and I salute you for it…let’s see what happens by the trade deadline
Your a lost cause Phil. You speak only with bias and clouded emotions and not objectivity
I think we have a tendency to take for granted just being good and competitive. We seriously, I included, piss and moan when things aren't as good as last year and we don't just immediately see progress, or we even see a regression back to being slightly above averge with a revamped core roster, we start to bitch.
We CAN still do well, we probably aren't winning the title this year with this roster, but they're developing chemistry. I've taken this all for granted myself, and there are frustrating ways that the team could be better, most criticisms are valid, but Minnesota sports fans are very impatient because of how long it's been, and literally only the Twins have won a professional mens sports championship. We can be toxic because of that.
Rudy has this team handcuffed. What is his trade value and how is he going to be traded after what the wolves gave up? The KAT trade was clearly about money and tying things up that wouldn’t allow further moves or signings.
Julius has to go or learn to play defense. Keep Donte and find a way to resign naz. We need a bench scorer. Jaden needs to step up and be a max contract level player on offense. We have guys who need to do better at their individual roles and give a damn that we are .500 basically
While I agree the team has had bad energy this season, I disagree it's all on the players. I will say though that I really don't like the way Ant starts most games and how he disappears in some big moments. Having said that, dumping on the players without recognizing the role of the coach and management and the negative impact it has had on the energy and morale of the team is one-sided.
And to be clear, I agree Donte is playing good right now as a byproduct of the energy issues this team is having, and it's true his contract is good, but I'm still not a buyer of his and I think Phil and Judd will have to eat their words propping him up.
Actions and statements don’t align. If the teams message was clearer there would be less frustration.
Have never shook my head in agreement more than when Judd talked about the team. Selfish. Immature. Pathetic.
The problem the Timberwolves have is they have not played the last part of their bench.Or their third string on their bench to see what they really have to be able to wonder if they could afford to get rid of nas and or naw. We will never know since we traded Kat.
I’m enjoying this podcast today you guys I keeping it real this team is bad and the players don’t care about winning
Here was a crazy thought don’t extend Rudy keep KAT. We have to get rid of Rudy, Ant is acting the same a Spyda did in Utah when he was done with Rudy.
The NBA in general has been kind of boring this year. The West is full of .500 mediocre teams. Half the veteran stars are injured all the time. The only great team is OKC. The East seems to be getting better but it’s still probably just 3 teams with a chance… Cavs, Celtics, Knicks.
Knicks have no chance, they’re 11-13 vs teams .500 or better. They just have the luxury of playing Washington, Toronto and Charlotte every other night
When Finch comes up with a lazy answer before he made a change to the starting lineup deserved to be lashed out at. It was lazy. He made a change and now they're playing better. That's amazing.
Julius Randle got to go we cannot win with him on the roster he is losing the game more than not please we have a great team last year with Randle and I hope everybody see that
The whole frontcourt has to go. Rudy and Randle. Take Mike too.
This team made me cancel my subscription 2 weeks ago. They just aren't entertaining to watch. In fact, the entire NBA is not very intriguing to draw me in right now.
Divincenzo is such a great all-around player. No wants to say it, but ANT is often low energy and is becoming embarrassing with the complaints on every shot. I’m starting to hate him.
I’m pretty sure he cares so much about random UA-cam finger #1 hating him😂😂😂😂
He’s finally getting calls now, so he’s been complaining less
Jaden should have been included in the Gobert trade. Would have saved us 2 first round picks. Players like him and Herb Jones who also can't shoot threes are overated.
Run offense through gobert he's the main character 😅
A lot of wolves fans want their cake and eat it too. They want kat, but they also want a championship level roster, when with the 2nd apron you can't have both.
If we kept kat, we would lose key depth players in the off-season, and thus be in a suns situation where we dont have depth, and we don't have the money to improve it
The nuggets (who Connelly built) ALSO took a step back. They made key trades and got bounced in the first round, and then won the chip.
Maybe we could have if we didn’t resign Rudy and Mike?
@joshp1550 And then we have even less depth at PG, our least deep position AND no defensive anchor. Our defense would be much worse if it was Kat and Naz.
Not true. They hit money on their draft picks in Dillingham and Shannon. Finch is just letting politics prevent us from seeing it. I'm very confident Miller has a role as a contributing player in this league. Plus the the way the 2nd apron is set up, lots of talented, but not star level guys are screwed and forced to take minimum contracts because it's all teams with winning aspirations can offer. Trust there would have been quite a few wanting a chance to play for a title on a winning team. What affect did the 9th best player on the Celtics have with them winning the championship? Same with Denver two years ago? People love to overcomplicate things. Championships are won with stars/all-stars and the right 3-4 pieces around them. IMO the two most overrated things in the NBA are 1) First round draft picks outside of the top 12 and 2) depth.
Randle to ATL for Capella, Roddy and Matthews
Gobert and Randle can go in my opinion
This team is a disaster. Ant, Naz, and DiVincenzo are the only players I’d keep. Get rid of the rest (outside of the unknowns of Shannon Jr and Dillingham)
In my opinion the biggest difference between this season and last season?..... A-Rod and Lore have not been a presence with the team. Glen Taylor has proven to be the worst owner in NBA history. He is a cheater and i have zero respect for him or his ability to own a team.
Trading the 2nd option days before training camp has to be top of the list
@@WHASTUDIOS44 I'm guessing you don't understand what the long term effects of being in the 2nd apron of the luxury tax would have been if they kept Kat? Besides ... Kat had NINE seasons with the Wolves. He never made other players better. You see he was not in the top 9 player rotations w plus/minus last season? I guess if you are ok with paying him as the 9th highest salary in the NBA... Well, that's a typical Glen Taylor move. Maybe Kat looked him in the eye and promised to improve, like Wiggins did?
@ you said all that just to say we will be worst off for years to come lol we are paying Rudy Gobert 43 million a year no good comes from that.. no Rudy and we wouldn’t have to deal the 2nd option away but maybe it’s just me. And you’re saying he never made others better who on this current roster makes others better besides old Mike maybe? Lmk. I’m guessing you don’t understand a few things but that’s irrelevant to me.
@ does Rudy make others better? Ant is a great player and he’s young but he doesn’t make others better… Randle definitely not. Naz no. This team has zero chemistry this season.
My list of players i most disliked in the nba. This goes back a few years ago.
Ayton
Wiggins
DLO
Draymond
Gobert
Randle
Ingram
Westbrook
Jalen Green
Zion
Ben Simmons
I did not like the Gobert trade. I like centers that can at least hoist up 1-2 three pointers per game on average.
We got one of my most disliked players back in the Kat trade.
McDaniels is the most over rated pile i have seen in a long time. He literally is doing the same stuff he did in year 2. What improvements has he made? Literally zero. And he looks like a moper just like Gobert and Randle. No wonder why the vibes are off. Duh!!!!!
Jaden McDaniel's has been a disappointment.
Jaden sucks, Gobert is horrible, Randle is a cancer, Edwards needs to go see the Wizard and get a heart (he needs the energy of Westbrook), Conley is done, Naz not the same as last year and not a great rebounder, Rob is too small and will never by great, just average at best, other than that, we are just fine. They are horrible to watch, with or without KAT.
Naz has nearly identical stats as last season, he just needs more minutes
To many 1 way under achieving players on this squad.
This team is full of immature entitled players. Trade Randle and Jaden for some wing 3 and D players, or a stretch big.
Sorry, but when i watch this team, i actually at times see purposeful sabatoge play going on multiple times per game. On top of the stupid low IQ stuff going on.
Where is Garza!!! Sit Goober and play Garza. He cant do any worse. Coaching and aau basketball children equals a bunch of Mitches to watch 😮
without Randle
Who watches the NBA? It's almost as bad as watching the wnba dump.
Why is Mackey always scolding the fans, the fans have more play experience than all three of you guys put together. I’m afraid you guys are just becoming KFans wannabees and I’m getting close to not watching. Mackey with his condescending therapy crap and Judd just a go alone to get alone. The bottom line is the fans are correct to keep these teams foot to the fire. You guy breed mediocracy, and it’s becoming sickening. Move out of the way and let Reusse and Randy run the show I trust them more than you three!
Great episode, read more idiotic UA-cam comments, it was so funny
Trade Randle. The End.
Not fed up. Giving up. They are what they are. No way they go as deep in playoffs as they did last year. Maybe they make it to playoffs. I’ll enjoy them the best I can this year without big expectations and hope for a fuller roster around Ant next year.
Also, not mad about KAT trade. It had to be done.
The Goal is to get a team that makes Ant better in his prime. This team is not the combo that they need. TC got rid of a toxic contract in KAT. Ant needs maturity and smarts. That means you can get rid of Randle, McDaniels, maybe Rudy and Conley only comes off the bench. Finch has not been the caliber of coach that can hold this team accountable. They have tuned him out. I would try to get some of our future picks back. I would play Leonard, Minott, Donte, Dillingham, and any player that could be an asset to Ant. If they aren't good enough, we can move them too.
Most of the online fans this season have been the biggest crybabies and know-it-all fans this team has ever had.
@@DFWMentor you're one of them😂🤣
The KAT trade had to happen or this team is hamstrung forever. The fan base is tired of Julius Randle.
When Randle dominates the ball, ANT just watches him b/c he's trying not to get in his way. Randle has too big of a negative personality so he is holding ANT back.
If they don't trade Randle by the deadline, then I will question the GM's job. We cannot lose NAW and Naz for Randle because we cannot with with Randle.
We have slow starts... and look who's in the starting lineup. Randle. And we are amazing in the fourth quarter, and who's not in the closing lineup. Randle.
There are a lot of idiot fans! We just made the friggin western conference finals.. Ya'll need to chill!
Go play NBA 2K if you want to play GM. Like them or leave them but this is the team we have. See the good in the situation. Our future is still bright. Timberwolves fans suck.
Gobert has got to go.