I've had Seele since the first week the game came out and I refuse to stop using her, albeit mostly out of spite Always satisfying to perform well with a character most consider obsolete
On one hand, I'm happy Seele was available at the release of the game, since she was my favorite character in Honkai Impact 3rd. On the other hand, I'm sad our first damage dealer characters became so obsolete, now we can only wait for a new Quantum DPS to replace Seele.
Seele playstyle only works if she can one shot ads and trigger her resurgence. But nowadays the enemy got so tough that low to mid investment Seele can't one shot them even after you buff her with Bronya/Sparkle skill...
Silverwolf in black and white with “CBT” under her reads like a parody thumbnail of one of those commentary videos on the downfall of a celebrity with a black bar over their eyes.
@@dynamario5787 it’s like a new phone. Just because a new model came out doesn’t mean your phone performance suddenly drops for no reason. More options give people the choice to use what they have, but Seele havers are still clearing MOC completely fine so
The time is May 8, 2024 and there have been 3 dps character that can ignore/implant elements on the enemy I would just like to say that the niche of the monoquantum team specifically weakness implant isn't a niche anymore it's pretty sad tbh but at the same time these gen 2 dps are fun to play as and you don't need to build a team for every element now. Hey at least silver is used with acheron right now surely she won't get powercrept by another nihility that has more frequent debuffs and has sustain capabilities 💀💀💀.
I remember not pulling on seele and jing yuan and getting silver wolf, used her as my main dps (later having sushang, clara, sw, and natasha during belobog) those were the days
idk if mono physical would be good considering our options for it, I imagine boothill breaking more than any mono physical team if he had bronya/sparkle plus ruan mei. maybe you can do something interesting with Luka paired with him but I don’t think there’s much synergy outside of them breaking a lot of physical
As someone who uses seele since day one she has been keeping up really well for me (tbf I don’t go for 0 cycles but I believe those are just for show nothing else) and all the other damage dealers are just higher damage sticks (expect jingliu who is easy to build and *sigh* Acheron wich does need her signature [unless they give us some lightcone in the future that will work good on her] who just like mono quantum can go into any weakness [just like he said]), even with all of that I still believe seele is good and as someone who is using mono quantum with lynx and has an Acheron (s1 e1 not fully built tho) that she still performs pretty well and is fun to play (and I will say people not liking how the auto play AI works on seele just play yourself if you are not farming)
Honestly mono Imaginary is looking to be pretty viable with Aventurine release and new trailblazer. Im excited to play it since it's pretty much the husbando element (I have all of the imaginary characters except Daniel) This is honestly so cool, going over the history of teams. After Aventurine/ Robin come out, would you consider doing the history of fua teams?
I have all imaginary except luocha- Any type of meta change would affect my game, I have the 4 star dots, few hypercarries and so many fua characters. I rlly hope they release a fua support, as we are getting a fua sustain.
@@HazZzel- i hope Sunday will be a fua support, like mark an ally and whenever that ally attacks launch a fua. I'm not pulling for Robin as most likely I won't have the stellar jades, rn I have 58 pity done for aventurine, if he chooses to come early then otherwise.
@@R_a_i_n_C_l_o_u_d Yeah I'm also skipping Robin- going for Aventurine+ Lc since he's my favorite character in the game. (Been saving since Black swan banner). I'm gonna have to skip Robin for Boothill which is painful but yk
@@HazZzel- For me its aventurine, then topaz (as she'll bring a lot of value to my account), then firefly. Not pulling Robin cuz Harmony MC will be imaginary and I can easily run the penacony set. And he'll be good with most characters. So it's a win win situation.
to be honest, mono quantum didn't feel that good to me even after sparkle's release, feels like the team doesn't have max synergy between the characters. also i'm an auto enjoyer and "Seal"'s auto AI is revolting. every time the boss is dying she ults on someone else
Personally I’ve been coping with mono quantum since fu xuans release and i never liked the seele version of the team so even though I have her I’ve been using qq instead, it’s kinda sad that a 4 star feels like it has better synergy in a team than a 5 star lol or maybe I’m just salty that my seele is benched
I've never seen stuff like that but I do agree he gives off quantum vibes but some people think he could be ice as well. The only predictions for his path I've seen have been nihility and abundance but nobody has reliable information so we just gotta wait.
tbh i regret pulling SW 😭😭i don't even run her with Acheron. She's been benched for a long time now... Black Swan, Pela and March 7th with trendmarket LC just feels way better. I have 120% effect hit rate march so she almost never misses her freeze along with trendmarket I can ult almost every turn. When you think about it SW def shred should've been way higher since it's single target. It's only 45% def shred, add 8% more if you somehow manage to land def shred bug on the target. Meanwhile Pela def shred is 42% on all enemies and she has built in energy regen on her talent which makes it way comfier to run Pearls LC on her and it can give you 12-16% more defense shred.
Do you know why people use silver wolf (it’s the weakness implant wich if it’s a weakness the enemy doesn’t already have they get 20% weaknesses to that type add an extra 13% and the fact that she is made for single target she is really good at what she does you just don’t use her right) all that being said sorry that you regret pulling her (in a nice way)
@@dipsonbabz2210I know that she has weakness implant but you need quantum on the enemy to be able to reliably implant any other elemental weakness. We haven't been getting any quantum enemies (except Sam) in Penacony and with Acheron out who can ignore all type resistance on her own, SW became a niche in mono quantum (which I'm not fan of). If we had more quantum weak enemies she would let us play around enemy weakness by adjusting our teamcomps.
She needs a second dps if you're running her, which is pretty bad if you're running mono quant, since you're replacing either Silverwolf or Sparkle. Jade + Seele sounds great tho
I am POSITIVE that whoever designed Sparkle is a QQ enjoyer. Seriously every single part of her kit was MADE for QQ. Now my mono quantum can clear any side of the MOC like a breeze... Also about Acheron... Yes, she deals more damage than every other DPS unit, IF (and thats a big IF) you have a gacha lightcone for her. Seriously, people have been so blinded by overhype that they can't see how F2P UNFRIENDLY Acheron really is. She has no real F2P lightcone option, and if you don't have a gacha LC like her signature or at least "Goodnight Sleep Well" S5, her damage falls into an abyss to the point even Xueyi deals more damage than her. Now, if leaks are to be believed, next update will give an event LC that will be perfect for her, and I sincerely hope it turns out to be true...
You can also view this in the opposite way: Since Acheron deals type-agnostic break, she's actually very f2p friendly if you can just get her. I don't think she NEEDS needs the cone to be good, but it sure does rocket the damage to the moon. Up to this point, I've literally had just four leveled characters that clear everything (quantum team supremacy), but Acheron has opened a new age in my character building.
@@PastaAivo Brother, without her signature or GNSW S5, she's barely S tier, she only becomes S+ with those cones. I would know, BECAUSE I HAVE HER WITHOUT THOSE CONES, and she can barely keep up with my other DPS units.
Shes dogshit for most of the playbase though why get her when units like jingliu,acheron,dhil and even dr ratio who at half of the investments can 0 cycle
Acheron is kind of a trap tbh. She's very niche- playing her without nihility units just isn't an option. The only built nihility I have are welt and Pela, and I use them with Ratio.
@@HazZzel- she is not a trap? What is with you people spreading misinformation. No she does not need sig to perform well, no she is not niche you can use 4 stars with her and still 2 cycle. You have welt and pela all u need is fire MC, gerpard or march 7th with trend and you have yourself a reliable archeron team. Just like how they made black swan for kafka do you really thing they won't make 5 star debuffer for acheron? I swear y'all must of lost her 50/50 and decided to pretend that she garbage to cope.
Xueyi is pretty good, Qingque is pretty good. The main issue with the team is it's mainly single target focused and high investment. Silver ends up being way better for someone like Acheron because you can just debuff the biggest enemy and Acheron's AoE takes care of the rest of the weaker enemies, where as in mono-Quantum you have to focus the weakness implanted target to get damage.
SW is trash from the beginning...if you think she is strong, you are either delusional or you havent even downloaded the game. She takes turns to "warm up" while still only provides single targer debuffing. On the other hand, Pela provides end-to-end full covered DEF reduction while being completely SP positive. comfortability? The RNG of Selee has already caused me hypertension. There are countless time that I have to reset because of the stupid Selee just dont crit on the floor I can auto clear with Clara. The only value of her is to be a charging station for Acheron.
For real, SIlver wolf is the biggest bait in HSR history... Like... SIlver Wolf is the only support unit that nerfs a team because she forces AoE teams to go single target... Ratio does not like SIlver Wolf because he'drather focus 2 targets at the same time than one, Seele does not like Silver Wolf because Tingyun and Pela are infinitely better for maintaining ressurgeance uptime, QQ does not like SIlver wolf for obvious reasons(Erudition) but funny enough, QQ is the most single target centered unit from all of the units that can use silverwolf, so for QQ SW is a less worse option ig.
Imagine taking 2 L's, your best supports taken twice and being regarded as the budget Acheron (appearence wise). Not a good day for Seele fr
truly the star has railled down seele
@@isfrenchjei bro no 😭😭😭
Now I'm glad she skipped me in 1.4
I've had Seele since the first week the game came out and I refuse to stop using her, albeit mostly out of spite
Always satisfying to perform well with a character most consider obsolete
@@fragmentedrose7401she’s still good, it’s just other characters are better, doesn’t matter if you enjoy her tho
here’s a fun one: if u have e2 acheron u can kick out seele out of mono quantum and still outperform her w/o the weakness implant💀
no fun ={
Not fun :(
Bothill has physical implant
@@uricchi 0_0
Fun fact e2 Acheron is busted
On one hand, I'm happy Seele was available at the release of the game, since she was my favorite character in Honkai Impact 3rd. On the other hand, I'm sad our first damage dealer characters became so obsolete, now we can only wait for a new Quantum DPS to replace Seele.
Boi i have news for you
Seele playstyle only works if she can one shot ads and trigger her resurgence. But nowadays the enemy got so tough that low to mid investment Seele can't one shot them even after you buff her with Bronya/Sparkle skill...
@@minerska3395it aint jade
I 0 cycled this MOC no problem with a seele centered team, not sure what you guys' problem is LMAO@@BalanceXXV
We'll have new quantum dps eh? @@minerska3395
Did I just heard xueyi as X Y ??
xiang yu she goes
hes allergic to saying some chinese names properly
is it pronounced jhue-yi or like jhue-e?
@@R_a_i_n_C_l_o_u_djhue yi
@@eden5388 oh ty, that name sounds so beautiful.
Silverwolf in black and white with “CBT” under her reads like a parody thumbnail of one of those commentary videos on the downfall of a celebrity with a black bar over their eyes.
People Seele is still fine, just because there’s better options doesn’t mean she gets worse lmao, her performance stays the same
the more options there are that are better than her,the worse she becomes,no?
@@dynamario5787 it’s like a new phone. Just because a new model came out doesn’t mean your phone performance suddenly drops for no reason. More options give people the choice to use what they have, but Seele havers are still clearing MOC completely fine so
@@hakzource8660thing is, apps also upgrades to utilize technological advancements so system requirements also go up.
@@hakzource8660nope, older iPhone’s performance will get worse after a new one comes out
@@hakzource8660meanwhile- apple intentionally slowing down older devices
The time is May 8, 2024 and there have been 3 dps character that can ignore/implant elements on the enemy I would just like to say that the niche of the monoquantum team specifically weakness implant isn't a niche anymore it's pretty sad tbh but at the same time these gen 2 dps are fun to play as and you don't need to build a team for every element now. Hey at least silver is used with acheron right now surely she won't get powercrept by another nihility that has more frequent debuffs and has sustain capabilities 💀💀💀.
Dps back in 1.0-1.2:unique kit with fun playstyle but lack dmg
Dps since jingliu:decent to meh kit+splash aoe+ton of dmg
Incredible video congrats!!!
Who tf calls xueyi XY??? 💀💀
Same people who call Qingque QQ
i once Heard semeone call HuoHuo huo²
@@andris404there is also DHIL for dan heng imbibitor lunae or SW for silver wolf
@@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853yeah but no one ever says XY. JY? Understandable. JL? Of course! YK, GG, Nat, FX… BUT NO XY WTF
@@lybulaWho the hell is GG?
I remember not pulling on seele and jing yuan and getting silver wolf, used her as my main dps (later having sushang, clara, sw, and natasha during belobog) those were the days
We all know what CBT actually stands for...
hhope your problem withYT has been resolve, nice video I really loved it
I can't wait for mono physical in 2nd half of 2.2 it's gonna go BONKERS becuse of boothill's ult
idk if mono physical would be good considering our options for it, I imagine boothill breaking more than any mono physical team if he had bronya/sparkle plus ruan mei. maybe you can do something interesting with Luka paired with him but I don’t think there’s much synergy outside of them breaking a lot of physical
@@paperpealolNot Mono Physical but maybe like Duo with Ice or Quantum
As someone who uses seele since day one she has been keeping up really well for me (tbf I don’t go for 0 cycles but I believe those are just for show nothing else) and all the other damage dealers are just higher damage sticks (expect jingliu who is easy to build and *sigh* Acheron wich does need her signature [unless they give us some lightcone in the future that will work good on her] who just like mono quantum can go into any weakness [just like he said]), even with all of that I still believe seele is good and as someone who is using mono quantum with lynx and has an Acheron (s1 e1 not fully built tho) that she still performs pretty well and is fun to play (and I will say people not liking how the auto play AI works on seele just play yourself if you are not farming)
Honestly mono Imaginary is looking to be pretty viable with Aventurine release and new trailblazer. Im excited to play it since it's pretty much the husbando element (I have all of the imaginary characters except Daniel)
This is honestly so cool, going over the history of teams. After Aventurine/ Robin come out, would you consider doing the history of fua teams?
I have all imaginary except luocha- Any type of meta change would affect my game, I have the 4 star dots, few hypercarries and so many fua characters. I rlly hope they release a fua support, as we are getting a fua sustain.
@@R_a_i_n_C_l_o_u_d I had a dream about Robin being a fua support
@@HazZzel- i hope Sunday will be a fua support, like mark an ally and whenever that ally attacks launch a fua.
I'm not pulling for Robin as most likely I won't have the stellar jades, rn I have 58 pity done for aventurine, if he chooses to come early then otherwise.
@@R_a_i_n_C_l_o_u_d Yeah I'm also skipping Robin- going for Aventurine+ Lc since he's my favorite character in the game. (Been saving since Black swan banner). I'm gonna have to skip Robin for Boothill which is painful but yk
@@HazZzel- For me its aventurine, then topaz (as she'll bring a lot of value to my account), then firefly. Not pulling Robin cuz Harmony MC will be imaginary and I can easily run the penacony set. And he'll be good with most characters. So it's a win win situation.
to be honest, mono quantum didn't feel that good to me even after sparkle's release, feels like the team doesn't have max synergy between the characters. also i'm an auto enjoyer and "Seal"'s auto AI is revolting. every time the boss is dying she ults on someone else
Lots of teams auto ai is annoying. Best to just auto battle for calyxs etc.
You should try Dan Heng IL's auto, you would puke
probably because auto in general is just terrible
@@CJ-up7pn genuinely, it always ults randomly instead of after a 3 skill
Personally I’ve been coping with mono quantum since fu xuans release and i never liked the seele version of the team so even though I have her I’ve been using qq instead, it’s kinda sad that a 4 star feels like it has better synergy in a team than a 5 star lol or maybe I’m just salty that my seele is benched
from what ive heard, sunday is rumored to be quantum DPS, most likely destruction or eruditon...
I've never seen stuff like that but I do agree he gives off quantum vibes but some people think he could be ice as well. The only predictions for his path I've seen have been nihility and abundance but nobody has reliable information so we just gotta wait.
tbh i regret pulling SW 😭😭i don't even run her with Acheron. She's been benched for a long time now... Black Swan, Pela and March 7th with trendmarket LC just feels way better. I have 120% effect hit rate march so she almost never misses her freeze along with trendmarket I can ult almost every turn.
When you think about it SW def shred should've been way higher since it's single target. It's only 45% def shred, add 8% more if you somehow manage to land def shred bug on the target. Meanwhile Pela def shred is 42% on all enemies and she has built in energy regen on her talent which makes it way comfier to run Pearls LC on her and it can give you 12-16% more defense shred.
Do you know why people use silver wolf (it’s the weakness implant wich if it’s a weakness the enemy doesn’t already have they get 20% weaknesses to that type add an extra 13% and the fact that she is made for single target she is really good at what she does you just don’t use her right) all that being said sorry that you regret pulling her (in a nice way)
@@dipsonbabz2210I know that she has weakness implant but you need quantum on the enemy to be able to reliably implant any other elemental weakness. We haven't been getting any quantum enemies (except Sam) in Penacony and with Acheron out who can ignore all type resistance on her own, SW became a niche in mono quantum (which I'm not fan of). If we had more quantum weak enemies she would let us play around enemy weakness by adjusting our teamcomps.
Man silver wolf is so useful, she never leaves my quantum, dr ratio, and acheron team
silver wolf is a lot better than black swan in acheron teams, why would you bench her?
@@Phiro00nope she's not, I tested it myself. Black swan is a good sub dps and she has lots of debuffs plus I have her e1s1
ive used this team for nearly the entire time ive been playing excluding recently with acheron
Ah yes the XY charachter and the the Xueyi chromosomes.
Let's hope Jade can give the team a nice spin
She is more FUA team than mono quantum hypercarry
She needs a second dps if you're running her, which is pretty bad if you're running mono quant, since you're replacing either Silverwolf or Sparkle.
Jade + Seele sounds great tho
Banger vid, the game is currently the jade waiting room for me.
brother i am so sorry
@@acezero5705 yeah 😓😓😓😓😓
thats cool!
I love cbt dawg
Qq is just feels better to play in monoQ due to synergy with sparkle
I am POSITIVE that whoever designed Sparkle is a QQ enjoyer. Seriously every single part of her kit was MADE for QQ. Now my mono quantum can clear any side of the MOC like a breeze...
Also about Acheron... Yes, she deals more damage than every other DPS unit, IF (and thats a big IF) you have a gacha lightcone for her. Seriously, people have been so blinded by overhype that they can't see how F2P UNFRIENDLY Acheron really is. She has no real F2P lightcone option, and if you don't have a gacha LC like her signature or at least "Goodnight Sleep Well" S5, her damage falls into an abyss to the point even Xueyi deals more damage than her.
Now, if leaks are to be believed, next update will give an event LC that will be perfect for her, and I sincerely hope it turns out to be true...
the new lc youre referencing is still gacha no?
@@yanrinn well, leaks say its an event LC, or maybe i read it wrong idk
@@highwaytoheaven99 It's not, the event one is harmony based with a weird ahh passive
You can also view this in the opposite way: Since Acheron deals type-agnostic break, she's actually very f2p friendly if you can just get her. I don't think she NEEDS needs the cone to be good, but it sure does rocket the damage to the moon. Up to this point, I've literally had just four leveled characters that clear everything (quantum team supremacy), but Acheron has opened a new age in my character building.
@@PastaAivo Brother, without her signature or GNSW S5, she's barely S tier, she only becomes S+ with those cones. I would know, BECAUSE I HAVE HER WITHOUT THOSE CONES, and she can barely keep up with my other DPS units.
i have every quatum character except silver wolf😭😭
0:56 lost 25%
Silver wolf is very meta right now, kid.
Archeron is just overkill at this point. Seele can still 0 cycle moc 11 this season easily
Shes dogshit for most of the playbase though why get her when units like jingliu,acheron,dhil and even dr ratio who at half of the investments can 0 cycle
@@maingrader4434bc seeles last rerun was 6 months + ago and ppl probably have her built really well
Acheron is kind of a trap tbh. She's very niche- playing her without nihility units just isn't an option. The only built nihility I have are welt and Pela, and I use them with Ratio.
@@HazZzel- she is not a trap? What is with you people spreading misinformation. No she does not need sig to perform well, no she is not niche you can use 4 stars with her and still 2 cycle. You have welt and pela all u need is fire MC, gerpard or march 7th with trend and you have yourself a reliable archeron team. Just like how they made black swan for kafka do you really thing they won't make 5 star debuffer for acheron? I swear y'all must of lost her 50/50 and decided to pretend that she garbage to cope.
@@bottomfragger-kfpdogwater6804 I'm skipping her, and you are a prime example of Acheron fans getting mad at ppl for not pulling her
when the
mono quantum team
QQ? XY??? bruh
A lot of people call Qingque QQ, but I've NEVER heard anyone call Xueyi XY lmfao
QQ is acceptable BUT WHAT IS XY
@@HazZzel- The male chromosomes as a Star Rail character
@@HazZzel- its not. its "tsing-chu-eh"
QQ is fine but XY is insane
this random ass seele slander is so unserious when JY is RIGHT THERE 😭😭😭😭
Don’t worry when Jade comes out quantum will be eating well
I'm so glad I don't particularly care about mono Quantum, so much cope in this video, seems like you forgot this was a gacha game bro
stop mispronouncing the characters names 😭😭😭😭😭
its funny to see acheron pullers crying about not having silverwolf
I haven't seen anyone complain about this. Acheron has great f2p options with pela and guinafen.
said no one ever LOL, SW is good with Acheron not necessary hope that helps
@@TheRedOGREeven fire tb works and fuels her ult faster
I've seen 0 people cry about that tbh, idk where you got it from
said by no one,ever.
is 0 cycling that important when 95% of the playerbase can,t do that?
i like how acheron powercreeped the two dps of 1.0 out of existence 💀
Mono quantum will get better once a better quantum dps comes all the supports are alr top tier seele is a very dogshit dps
Xueyi is pretty good, Qingque is pretty good. The main issue with the team is it's mainly single target focused and high investment. Silver ends up being way better for someone like Acheron because you can just debuff the biggest enemy and Acheron's AoE takes care of the rest of the weaker enemies, where as in mono-Quantum you have to focus the weakness implanted target to get damage.
Qingque nowadays do much more damage than seele because the burst dedicated content
SW is trash from the beginning...if you think she is strong, you are either delusional or you havent even downloaded the game. She takes turns to "warm up" while still only provides single targer debuffing. On the other hand, Pela provides end-to-end full covered DEF reduction while being completely SP positive. comfortability? The RNG of Selee has already caused me hypertension. There are countless time that I have to reset because of the stupid Selee just dont crit on the floor I can auto clear with Clara. The only value of her is to be a charging station for Acheron.
For real, SIlver wolf is the biggest bait in HSR history... Like... SIlver Wolf is the only support unit that nerfs a team because she forces AoE teams to go single target... Ratio does not like SIlver Wolf because he'drather focus 2 targets at the same time than one, Seele does not like Silver Wolf because Tingyun and Pela are infinitely better for maintaining ressurgeance uptime, QQ does not like SIlver wolf for obvious reasons(Erudition) but funny enough, QQ is the most single target centered unit from all of the units that can use silverwolf, so for QQ SW is a less worse option ig.
Aren’t you guys completely ignoring her weakness application??