"And then what?" A simple question with a surprisingly complex answer. And lacking an answer has doomed many an enterprise once the 'go' phase has been passed.
"Now begins our pilgrimage to the Great Eye to bask in the presence of our lords!" -Some crazed cultist before beginning a suicidal journey to the Eye of Terror where they and their followers were used as slave labor and sacrificial offerings by the Traitor Legions.
@@enoughothis Unless your Guilliman and your siblings are around, you spend too much time enviously trying to outdo them. To the point you decide to shatter the Empire's bulwark as to monopolise public opinion by sheer weight of Chapter quantity.
Cultist: "How am I gonna get weapon..." Imperial guard: "Dang this balcony railing is really just the worst..." Cultist: "Well then... praise Tzeentch for this turn of fortune..."
Cultist: "Excuse me, mister imperial guard. You mind stepping aside?" Imperial Guard: "uh, okay." Cultist: **Grabs the railing and rips the guard rail free** Cultist . o O (Now I got a metal club!)
Cultist: "NOW FOR YOU.... wait where did he go?" Nurgleling: "He tripped over me and fell into that liquor manufactorum below us." Cultist: "Huh... Well thank grandfather Nurgle for this bizarre bounty!" Lamenter: "I'm sorry did I hear HERESY?!" Cultist: "Oh damn..."
Aside from the fact that it moved at the speed of plot, Lorgar's ability to infest the Imperium with Chaos Cults nearly across the entire span of the galaxy in the fifty year lead up from his pilgrimage to Cadia to the incident on Davin is truly an impressive feat, especially since it was done under the watch of the Crapstodes. It does beg the question on what the state of the Imperium was at the zenith of the Great Crusade, as the soil seemed incredibly fertile for such outbreaks in the lead up. If that's the case perhaps it's why the Emperor was so obsessed with completing the Webway Project, knowing the galaxy is effectively one giant time bomb waiting to erupt in insurgencies and civil wars, trying to complete that project to help unify the cultures and provide an infrastructure network that could support a galaxy spanning empire.
The Horus Heresy novels are pretty consistent about the Empire being bled white. Worlds being forced into total war levels of conscription, rationing, and taxes, mere years after they were devastated by a space marine invasion.
That Lorgar's two Right Hands of Kor Phareon and *That Bitch* were both seeding cults of Chaos everywhere they went (even before Monarchia and Cadia, the Word Bearers had a few inner circles making pacts with daemons) and saving the obviously Chaos tainted peoples (as they did on Davin) so that they can colonize/emigrate to other planets or return to theirs and start anew with their own cult, really helped in getting more allies to bog down the Imperium. So they had about 150ish + Years to actually seed the Imperium. When a Cult has some good transportation and no one really had any idea what a heretic was, they tend to spread like wild fire.
@@uncensoredhappiness I'm not disagreeing but...there were lot of planets that welcome the imperium as well as those who just submitted. So, many did not suffer a space Marine invasion.
@@eavyeavy2864 Essentially, the whole gist of the adventure is literally being a wagie working a crappy job at what is basically a Starbucks. But FANTASY! It's all just woke nonsense being pushed and people who live in their little corner of the world and never go outside of their social bubble. This isn't an adventure that is fun by any means, this is unironically the peak of life to those people, they believe it's the best way to live and how things should be socially. They're stunted children in adult bodies.
Well you could watch/read The Devil is a Partimer where the Demon King from another world gets stuck on Earth, is stripped of his powers and is forced to work at the local "Royaly Free" McDonald's to pay for his crappy apartment whist dodging the heroine that also sucked through the gate with him and is also just as powerless but she works in a call center. Extra hilarity ensues when the two get constantly into trouble over their fights and everyone thinks it's because of a lover's quarrel or she's a jealous ex.
Not just that, history has shown that you can be a general that's absolutely terrible at tactics and still pull off huge wins as long as you're good at logistics. Because even if you can't find an enemy weakness, you are likely to have someone in your army that at the very least can find their own ass with both hands and a map that you can promote to take care of that bit for you. If you have no food, ammo or medical supplies, that is harder to fix. (Although if you're clever enough to promote someone that knows how to fix that part you can still win just as big.) So I guess "Masters study personnel management" should be added to that quote.
A solid NCO core and sufficient bullets, beans, Band-Aids, accountability, and communication. Logistics will be handled by those qualified to produce and transport and training.
"enjoyable novel" Or even more in keeping with the ruinous powers...a Light Novel!! "I Wanted to Doom this Entire Planet as Tribute to my Dark Gods, so I Opened a Waffle House!" will be on sale soon.
@@kenrudd6362 on the latest news, the cultist uprising has lost its greatest supporter today due to miss communication, Tzeentch delegates say that the lord of change has officially rescinded its offer of support after meeting the cultists, whom he described as, and i quote, "not worth the effort". More on that after a brief announcement from our sponsors. HAVE YE ANY SPARE BLOOD AND SKULLS...
@@StarboyXL9 Knowing what I know, this will either give me superpowered STDs, brutally murdered, brutally and pornographically murdered, or her naughty bits will be so complex my mind will fold itself inside out trying to understand what I'm coupling with.
@@yetipotato8567 You thought it was chaos cultist, but it was actually I, leader of the imperial fist. And I shall fortify this waffle shop. I dare you to lay siege to it. Or are you like the iron wariors, petty, bitter, b*tches, who were called 'unimaginative' by other unimaginative people.
Nurgle Cultists: Step 1. Find a wealthy and or influencial person with one foot in the grave from cancer or some other incurable illness. Step 2. Promise them immortality from disease by embracing the gifts of their Grandpa Nurgle. Step 3. After converting your whale target, he's now in a position where its in his best interest for the entire planet to fall to chaos or else he'll continue to hide in the shadows, worshipping in secret. Threaten him that Nurgle will turn his back on him and let him die if he doesn't help fund the cultural and literal war for the planet. Step 4. Repeat steps 1-3 until the rest of the planet fall in line.
@@charlesballiet7074 IDK why Nurgle cutlists would give a crap about that. I imagine that'd be more of a Khorne thing. Khorne would be interesting... you'd want to infect the criminals, revolutionaries, gangs, the poor minorities (content minorities will not fertile grounds for chaos) and look to transform their revolution and sense of justice into Khorne fueled RAGE.
Fun fact about copper, it's not the most conductive metal. It's actually second to silver followed by gold and aluminum, but because of the relative value and physical properties of these different metals nearly every case where they can uses steel reinforcing cores in aluminum wire for distribution and copper at point of application they do. This is because it is cheaper to make a thicker wire with the same electrical properties out of aluminum that to make a thinner wire out of gold or silver. All of these metals are relatively weak, so they add the steel for physical support.
Don't forget that you don't just steal cargo to sell it. You also can use things like large quantities of grain as a food supply to help you establish a base somewhere. You can avoid the notice robbing shipments of weapons will gather by grabbing materials you can use to make weapons at your base.
Honestly I wasn't a fan of the "Highway robbery" example. Like could it work, ya especially if you're just trying to get start up money for future endeavors. I think a better option that would bring in finds long Term would be to join an existing criminal crew. Think an illegal gambling operation, loan sharking gang, drug dealing, things like that. That way you keep an illegal income going long term and good source to gain followers from, plenty of young moldible minds ready to make a quick buck.
@@erikjohnson5549 More like try to corrupt,blackmail,bribe a few low level bureaucrats from the Adeptus Administratum or if they are very skilled its sub-division the Departmento Munitorum to gain access the current and up-to date status of the PDF and planet in general.Then they can try to manipulate the happenings of the planet itself. Less rations or police for "cost-saving" in a few small towns here and there,"failing" to pay PDF troopers in some remote areas for months. Making them fertile ground for corruption.Then they can snowball it.Some corrupt administrators join in,some becomes heretics.Some of the disgruntled PDF turn to Chaos,and got relocated,promoted,and nobody got killed this point.Some of those forces relocates into said "neglected" towns,and can corrupt on a larger scale,by presenting an alternative to "rotting corrupt system",by overthwrowing the "uncaring" leadership.In Illegal activites,like gambling, some overzealous Arbites might sniff out some heresy during a raid.
Corvus Corax: "Are you sure your logistics chain is ...sustainable?" Konrad Curze: "*finishes messily eating one of his sons* ...Say what?" Corvus Corax: "Just... Never mind"
Arch, That Gaunts ghost novel is called Traitor General. Gaunt leads a team to a chaos world to kill a general who is having his mind lock undone. One of the best novels from that series.
@@funbro99 The ability of Ghosts, especially Scouts, to accomplish ludicrous feats with little justification. The first big instance is when Mkoll kills a chaos dreadnought with an improvised explosive. Other examples include Chaos Space Marines getting instakilled by blowdarts. I call it Mkvenner Syndrome since Mkvenner falls prey to it far more than his brethren.
The Dart didn't kill the Chaos space marine. The CSM took note of how Virlant the poison was to even effect him, but what killed him was the Ghosts swinging in and dropping a det pack on him. Killing them in the explosion. As for the Dreadnaught and the overloading power pact. While it is true that Mkoll used it. That was actually a nod to eariler books by other authors. Abbnett was not the one to introduce that concept. He simply gave a nod to it.
That's what happens when your IP is build apon a mountain of references and ripoffs. Alot of chaos stuff, including the name and symbol is taken from the Elric saga.
I'd assume that their social structures aren't specifically chaotic in organization. The people who aren't self consciously chaotic will probably take orders. The rest will go along to gain more power and do more "worship."
on first look - yes. However, don't those humans need food and water too? otherwise, they die and then rot n a couple days. Khornates would outlive such food only by a little. Playing Warhammer Total War in Beastman forest path battles you would see giant fungal growths everywhere and there are some peculiar build. So, I personally just take it Nurgle handles the provisions through less toxic/diseased fungi and grubs that start growing on masse in corrupted locale. He wouldn't be too friendly with Slaanesh/Tzeentch, but those guys can handle logistics themselves.
@@AkiKii519 well, if they all eat each other, and you properly dry and conserve the meat, you could ostensibly live off a human being for upwards of 2-3 weeks. Now sure, that would see a pretty severe reduction of the population within a few months, but that's still a lot more time than "they all starve to death in 2 weeks". Plus this is all discounting the possibility of warpgiven blessings that simply remove the need for food and drink
Let's just hope there's no actual Chaos cults in LA, though saying that is a double edged sword, as I'd be happy to see LA, particularly Hollywood, burn to the ground, hopefully with a good deal of the population with their brains too far up their own backsides to notice the flames that are busy consuming the whole building, with the exception of all the good people that will have already left long before the massive fires begin.
7:29 to give a slightly different example, organized crime in New York in the 1960’s. The different gangs used to hijack trucks coming out of Idlewild Airport (now JFK Airport) regularly and sell the stolen goods for less than it was worth to wholesalers or even to the stores the trucks were originally headed to. Why less than it’s worth? Because they spent maybe $50 to find out what was going to be on that truck, so anything over that was profit. Didn’t matter what was on the trucks, cuz someone would buy it, and this had been going on so long that everyone just kinda accepted it as part of doing business in New York. A cult stealing stuff doesn’t need that stuff to be valuable, as long as they have a place to sell it that won’t ask questions, as any price they can get for it will be profit.
I'm noticing a very "Moriarti" aspect here. As common as chaos cults might appear, the truth is they pivot on at least one center of diamond-solid organization that REALLY knows what it's doing. In short, the only assurance you'll get a proper chaos cult going is with... well, a Deacon with a lot of forbidden books perhaps? Or how about some chaos space marines? Basically, if there isn't already a pure chaos seed, you at least need the near-perfect makings of one.
For the most part, I think I'm inclined to agree with you: Arch is working on the assumption that you're trying to build a Chaos Cult from the ground up, but it's probably at least as common for an enterprising Champion of Chaos to take control of an existing organisation - imagine, for example, if Rasputin had actually had some magical powers. Likewise, it's worth considering that it's perfectly possible to worship the Chaos gods without realising you're doing so. I'm reminded of a short story in Psychic Awakening featuring sect violence between two factions of Imperial Creed pilgrims with differering scriptural interpretations, which rapidly escalates into an all-out nexus of Khorne.
I think you need a "pure seed" or the perfect circumstances for a successful chaos takeover. You don't need nearly as much to simply do an incalculable amount of damage to a world without taking it over. Chaos is probably happy with both
Ehh I disagree completely. I dont think things need to be anywhere near perfect. In all honesty just a competent cult will be more then capable of doing the job. You would only need a near perfect one if the planet in question is run exceptionally well. We must keep in mind that most things are generally not run very well. Espessial bureaucracies such as the imperium.
Chaos: "Delivery for the Lord Commander of the Segmentum." Lord Commander: "I didn't order anything, I hope it's not the inquisition again." **Chaos deilver Virus bombs and Slaughter** Lord Commander: "Emperor no that's the third time this week!"
As a former courier, I must admit there is a few clients i would not mind dropping a virus bomb off at....mostly the people that insist that trashcans, potted plants, etc belong in front of mailboxes when ordering deliveries at night! Seriously anyone doing that shit deserves a virus bomb! Actually am fairly certain couriers are one of the biggest source of chaos cultists in 40k!
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus and if you enter someones property you just need plausibel excuse, and you quickly learn the number of residents at a certain address, and sometimes you can even tell when people are not home when regular deliveries get paused and resumed, after a few years of contacting law enforcement you are able to put yourself above suspicion due to your previous actions as the eyes of the law enforcement, you have access to vehicles and develop a routine for driving on the limit of what is safe, and you sometimes get oppertunities, say someone leaves the front door wide open or a car unlocked with a door open, ive seen both of the latter cases and driven on the sidewalk in front of police, it is a really good position for passing certain heretical messages along thru dead drops...it is almost surprising its not mentioned in a novel but I guess most authors doing 40k do not associate with the lower classes 😅
Maybe these would help with daemon summoning: - Virgin blood is best - Goat blood must be no older than 3 days - Entrails must be removed and apportioned either before death, or no later than 30min - Candles must be sorted by tallest in back to shortest in front - never the other way around!
@@epicstyle1000 Yep but it reminds me of an idea I had where in a fantasy setting some alchemists gave the whole profession a bad rep due to not understanding that "virgin blood" are not the same as "blood of a virgin". They idea was that "virgin blood" would be fresh blood whatever the donor was a virgin or not. And "blood of a virgin", in small amounts can be harvested by the droplets with no need to actually do anything horrific.
@@epicstyle1000 It took master industrial demon summoners to realize you could get your virgin blood, goat blood and entrails from the same source. Now for the candles...
@@michaelpettersson4919 as messed up as this sounds. A new born baby is still considered a virgin. so just cut the little welp out of its mother, wait for it to scream and now you have some virgin blood... As virgin as it gets. Man, I don't feel comfortable with my own thoughts anymore
I have never loved Logistics, but after watching Arch for the past couple years, I have learned to both Love, & understand its major importance in both the Modern World, & the 40k Universe. Thank you Arch
This is why the vast, vast majority of modern militaries are made up of technical and support personnel. Of all the personnel in the US military less than 6% actually pull a trigger at the enemy, the other 96% are supporting them. Food preparation, transport, medical, information technology, various sciences, intelligence, training, engineering, legal work, mechanical support, and the list goes on. Military operations aren't won by trigger pullers alone, they are usually decided by whom has the greater logistics..
This kinda video here is exactly why arch has been my favorite source of warhammer lore since his total war warhammer faction videos. Godspeed you magnificent bastard!
When Arch was talking about the copper on the railways being stripped my only thought was whether or not the thieves were selling the copper straight back to the government, repeatedly. It sounds like the kind of thing that would happen in Norway.
Hey Arch could you do a video explaining the Cold Trade? The illegal trade of xenos commodities by unscrupulous individuals who deal with the alien scum either for profit or for survival's sake. Sounds awesome to me.
At the end of the day, Chaos is a lot like communism. You think you’ll be in a Khorne fight club or Slaneeshi cult, but in reality you’ll still just have to go back to your day job with the addition of daemons running around and your new boss looking like a weirdo.
I think it's more like a confederation,they are split into fours and do there own thing until something big happens and then they form an alliance to do said big something.
@@individual2122 nah, 95% of the Chaos God’s energy and time is fighting with each other in the warp in the “Great Game”. The alliance happened as a “This human-thing is trying to kill us, and he’s powerful enough to actually be a credible threat… We need to deal with this”
😂 The Copper theft story reminds me of what happens here in Puerto Rico where the heroin junkies steal the electrical wiring from abandoned houses and power lines. Sadly, a couple a year get fried to a crisp that even Popeyes would envious of... ✌️
Wasn't that an issue in some parts of Africa as well? Iirc, they were trying to bring electricity to regions and people outside the city. Just to get all their copper wire stolen by the locals. Mainly because that copper was worth more money than whatever they could get by working.
"GRAAAA take your corpse rations NYAAAAGH no more than two REEEEE no, Ronald, that's three, put one back KILLLL" That's how I imagine supplies are distributed when a Chaos cult is frenzied.
When a Chaos uprising triumphs,sacrfising a portion the planets population,is not merely their religious obligation,but a necessity.Since that moment on the planet is cut off from the wider imperium and unable to access to its technologies or even the popultaions bare necessities.There is a high probability that the planets infrastructure(water processing,heating,electricity,food storage) was damaged during the fighting and chaos.So mass killings is not just simple insanity.It also solidifies their rule and commitment,and subjzgates the population
@@toprob20 Better kill the "lackies of the corpse God" with a sense of purpose serving the "True gods" with their deaths than an honest follower of the Dark Gods die off starvation,meaninglessly.It also keeps the "true believers" occupied with something,since I can't imagine Heretic Joe going to the manufactorioum anymore,anytime,thus preventing an interconflict between heretics
As Ross Scott once put it, the movies might make it seem like all you need to start a cult is a bonfire and a bunch of robes, but in reality, you need a _lot_ more than that.
This is why I love your videos Arch. You get into the dirty details of how the good or bad guys have such stuff to fight with. It’s one thing to say in a book that “The Enemy is coming to attack with 10,000 tanks!” Most will over look it just to hype up the danger of the enemy, but you Arch will go into detail on how the hell this guy has 10,000 tanks and where he pull it out from where the sun doesn’t shine.
This video was invaluable for helping me along with some of my ideas with my fanfic/army story. I have a large Word Bearers and Night Lords chaos warband that I write fiction for. Their main setting, I call it, is in the underhive of a certain hive on a hive world (say hive again, please). The Word Bearers are creating mutant cults and infiltrating the upper hives while the Night Lords sow terror amidst the Houses and Guilds in the middle. It has been a lot of fun.
“The Devil-Worshipper Is A Part-Timer” sounds like it’d be a hilarious series to watch! Maybe even starring our favorite Chaos worshipper Cultist-chan? xD
Thought process: How can I find out how to subvert the government and start a revolution without asking google? Hey Arch! How does one start a chaos uprising?
I find logistics to be a great way to calm my mind, believe it or not. In a recreational sense that is. If I'm having a bad day and I need to calm down? I can play something like oh I don't know, Tropico, or Cities Skylines, or Civilization, and just focus my mind on the acquisition of resources, connecting trade routes, building infrastructure, things like that and it relaxes me. So a video like this was very nice and calming indeed, despite the subject matter lol
47:00 Well Arch, if you got a month worth of supplies for 100 people and due to mad berzerk bloodshed you only got 10 people left today compared to 100 yesterday then you got 10 months worth of food left.
@@sonofjack6286 Might be a problem on feudal or feral worlds, for hive worlds it isn't much of an issue since they prepare massive amounts of supplies specifically for supply disruptions, sometimes years worth of food in stockpiles. Corpse starch is also always available.
Chaos is something of misnomer, really the core mantra of Chaos is more 'might makes right' or 'the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must' than it is anarchist rioting. So as long as you have a leader of sufficient strength and skill there isn't any problem with the idea of a well-organized and disciplined Chaos empire.
The ultimate problem with chaos is that it is fundamentally an ideology of complete selfishness, and as such you can ONLY ever govern others through manipulation at best. This more than even the influence of chaos itself is why all organizations based around it are self consuming. Some simply get bigger than others before they self destruct.
@@Nempo13 Back in first edition maybe, in modern Warhammer there is scant evidence of anything like that at all. When was the last time you can name that Khorn rewarded someone for behaving honorably?
We're gonna need some more of this, if you don't mind, Mr Arch. We need more on the logistics behind a Chaos Cult, or maybe even the opposite: How Imperium Special Forces stage Loyalist revolts in a Chaos held world or "How to operate a resistance on a Tau world".
Q: What do you eat? A: Khornate: *"We eat what we killed. Simple as."* Tzeenchian: *_"Eating_** is an outdated concept."* Nurglite: *"Poop."* Slanneshi: *_"Ufufufu~_** you really want to know?"*
Khornite Logistician: Yes, yes, we all demand Blood for our Blood God, and Skulls for the Skull Throne, but how are we going to bring them there without promethium? Khornite Beserker: **Throws down sack full of blood filled skulls, howls uncontrollably.** Khornite Logistician: Dammit Brother Demetrius, for the last time: I said attack the fuel convoy and get fuel. Khornite Beserker: -bL_oO_D Is -*-MY-*- fUEl!! mY *LIFE*!!- Khornite Logistician: **Prolonged Sigh.**
@@VesiustheBoneCruncher It is up to the blessed to bring perfection onto this world of suffering existence. An end to the show and true values upon the cattle. From the conformity of their flesh, we shall feast upon the beef of their labor and drink the fruit of their blood like wine. Ours the many headed beast of mankinds probate. Give into the chaos past the corpse seal. Accept true power.
I love these awesome lore videos you do Arch especially when it comes to chaos i.e Khorne or Nurgle (my two favourite chaos gods) so keep up the awesome lore videos. Also the best way to get me to join a chaos cult is to offer me a lot of Tim Hortons coffee that I don't have to share with anybody else 😁🇨🇦
I love this video thank you. I love logistics I worked at several shipping companies throughout my life. And more than that I do love me some chaos undivided. That's the army of choice I play.
Hey I know this might be a stretch but could it be possible for a mini series of some sort of how the various chaos warbands might go about there general murder and conquest. like how the night lords might gain compliance over a world through public bloody assassination's and fear, or how a khorneate warlord might go about using devastating (if somewhat uncontrollable) shock troops while still running a semi orgnanized military effort. etc etc just a series on how chaos fights how each legion or chaotic faction wages the long war
Have you seen Army Combat Veterns reaction to the first few videos in your seige of Vraks series? He's a US Army Military Police Platoon Leader. Served in Iraq or Afghanistan to train the local police forces...and yes, we all know how well that went. But he has a lot of real world military training and experience, as a leader of many men in multiple operations.
"If you jump directly from waffles to anal sex, you are likely to frighten a considerable portion of your potential devoutees." Thank god I listen with headphones, it'd be hard to explain that quote to a passerby.
@17:30 There was a real life study about ideology conversions that found it was easier to convert a communist into a nazi and nazi into a communist than it was a capitalist into one of the former two.
This kinda got me thinking, if defrauding the Emperors Tithes is Heresy, by extension somewhere in the Ordo Hereticus their must be a whole sect of Inquisitor Accountants ready to audit a governor's tax returns with exteme predjucie
Oh I'm sure that the Imperial equivolent to the IRS has an entire planet or 12 dedicated to all that paperwork... Then again it took them 100 years to notice the Damocles Gulf had stopped paying their tithes and had joined a new Xenos Empire?
Tactics may win battles, but logistics win wars. Napoleon was a brilliant tactician, winning numerous battles, but ultimately lost bc in Russia when supplies ran dry there were no granaries to plunder that haven't already been burnt by Russians themselves. He lost not to a brilliant tactical display, but calculated strategy and his own poor logistics...
Hey arch? Out of curiosity how about a video on the Red Corsairs. I just rewatched the baddab war, and I realized you never made a proper video on the red coursairs though I know you had intended to. Also how about a video on piracy in general in 40k, and its logistics.
Great video, can you also please cover chaos uprising/cult fighting from pdf/inquisition point of view? It would be interesting to hear how local law enforcement would react to the signs of chaos cult, how they would investigate it, when and if inquisition get involved, and finally how they would fight it. Otherwise, keep up the good work.
Moral of the story? NEVER accept an invatation from Arch to come over for strawberry jam-drenched waffles. We all know where things are headed from there...
2:48 "Hey you! Dirty opressed citizen! Do you wish to take control of your life?" "Yes." "Do you wish to attain power?" "Yes!" "Do you wish to take your rightful place in life and do unto others as they have done onto you?" "YES!" "Well then the first step would be to take a responsible stance in life and get yourself financially secure by getting a job." "Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff, I knew it was too good to be true."
The necessary steps to arm a chaos cult for an uprising: 1. Look for anything that could even remotely pass for a weapon in your current vicinity. 2. Howl all sorts of crazy BS like a rabid MF. 3. If you can't find anything, lower your standards and repeat steps 1 & 2 until everyone has a weapon and a sore throat. 3. Tell your guys you actually have tons of proper weapons ready for them to grab, just ahead. 4. Do not mention the caveat that these _ready_ weapons must first be looted from the Imperial's cold dead hands after they've been used against your crazies for a bit. 5. "Tally ho lads, let's go show these bloody Imperial nonce buggers just how absolutely ever-so-slightly miffed we can get."
I figured with the myriad of different gangers in the underhives the protection racket would be extremely lucrative . What merchant wouldn't want insurance against their shops constantly getting burnt down, or even just against local thugs making off constantly with the merch?
Their *goal* is Chaos, but a little organization goes a long way in getting there. Teamwork makes the dream work!
step one distribute a video of a arbites kneeling on a citizens back while the citizen says they cant breath.
THERE IS NO "I" IN CAOS! GO TEAM!
That's why they call it Chaos Undivided.
Turns out that contrary to the advertising, you have to be quite orderly to succeed at Chaos.
#TruckerConvoyLogistics
"And then what?"
A simple question with a surprisingly complex answer. And lacking an answer has doomed many an enterprise once the 'go' phase has been passed.
Eh we'll wing it.
I don't know I never thought i'd get this far- Average Chaos Cultist
Inquisitor: "Well then allow me to suggest your next move".
*Cocks Bolt Pistol with Righteous intent.*
"Parry this you filthy heretic"
Segmentum command hurling a huge siege army, space marines or exterminatus to newly "independent" planet
"Now begins our pilgrimage to the Great Eye to bask in the presence of our lords!" -Some crazed cultist before beginning a suicidal journey to the Eye of Terror where they and their followers were used as slave labor and sacrificial offerings by the Traitor Legions.
Of course, Chaos and Logistics. Only Arch would spend a portion waffling on about waffles, lol!
Amateurs talk about tactics, experts about logistics. Any fool can lead an army in battle, only a genius can keep it fed and housed.
I know right and he is not even Belgium he is Norwegian hahaha
@@enoughothis and waffled
@@12ad49, yes of course. Never forget waffled!
@@enoughothis Unless your Guilliman and your siblings are around, you spend too much time enviously trying to outdo them. To the point you decide to shatter the Empire's bulwark as to monopolise public opinion by sheer weight of Chapter quantity.
Cultist: "How am I gonna get weapon..."
Imperial guard: "Dang this balcony railing is really just the worst..."
Cultist: "Well then... praise Tzeentch for this turn of fortune..."
Cultist: "Excuse me, mister imperial guard. You mind stepping aside?"
Imperial Guard: "uh, okay."
Cultist: **Grabs the railing and rips the guard rail free**
Cultist . o O (Now I got a metal club!)
Cultist: "NOW FOR YOU.... wait where did he go?"
Nurgleling: "He tripped over me and fell into that liquor manufactorum below us."
Cultist: "Huh... Well thank grandfather Nurgle for this bizarre bounty!"
Lamenter: "I'm sorry did I hear HERESY?!"
Cultist: "Oh damn..."
@@gruntmasterbroadcast *piano drops on top of the lamenter*
@@Elenrai lamenter: nice try jackass next time give it your A game
@@TheOneWhoShushes *Plasteel piano drops on top of the lamenter*
Aside from the fact that it moved at the speed of plot, Lorgar's ability to infest the Imperium with Chaos Cults nearly across the entire span of the galaxy in the fifty year lead up from his pilgrimage to Cadia to the incident on Davin is truly an impressive feat, especially since it was done under the watch of the Crapstodes. It does beg the question on what the state of the Imperium was at the zenith of the Great Crusade, as the soil seemed incredibly fertile for such outbreaks in the lead up. If that's the case perhaps it's why the Emperor was so obsessed with completing the Webway Project, knowing the galaxy is effectively one giant time bomb waiting to erupt in insurgencies and civil wars, trying to complete that project to help unify the cultures and provide an infrastructure network that could support a galaxy spanning empire.
The Horus Heresy novels are pretty consistent about the Empire being bled white. Worlds being forced into total war levels of conscription, rationing, and taxes, mere years after they were devastated by a space marine invasion.
That Lorgar's two Right Hands of Kor Phareon and *That Bitch* were both seeding cults of Chaos everywhere they went (even before Monarchia and Cadia, the Word Bearers had a few inner circles making pacts with daemons) and saving the obviously Chaos tainted peoples (as they did on Davin) so that they can colonize/emigrate to other planets or return to theirs and start anew with their own cult, really helped in getting more allies to bog down the Imperium. So they had about 150ish + Years to actually seed the Imperium.
When a Cult has some good transportation and no one really had any idea what a heretic was, they tend to spread like wild fire.
@@uncensoredhappiness I'm not disagreeing but...there were lot of planets that welcome the imperium as well as those who just submitted. So, many did not suffer a space Marine invasion.
Yep, communication was the heresies greatest ally, that and transportation, which is a close second.
Simple. Chaos cults had no competition thanks to Emperors doctrine.
Now I need a webcomic series of Chaos cultists working at McDornels to fund their cult.
Wizards of the Coast/D&D has a stupid RPG for that now....
Blithering leftist crap.
Every evil genius has to start somewhere, McDornels make them lose their faith in humanity and sell their soul , perfect ground for a cult
@@sadwingsraging3044 elaborate, you rightist covid denier
@@eavyeavy2864 Essentially, the whole gist of the adventure is literally being a wagie working a crappy job at what is basically a Starbucks. But FANTASY! It's all just woke nonsense being pushed and people who live in their little corner of the world and never go outside of their social bubble.
This isn't an adventure that is fun by any means, this is unironically the peak of life to those people, they believe it's the best way to live and how things should be socially. They're stunted children in adult bodies.
Well you could watch/read The Devil is a Partimer where the Demon King from another world gets stuck on Earth, is stripped of his powers and is forced to work at the local "Royaly Free" McDonald's to pay for his crappy apartment whist dodging the heroine that also sucked through the gate with him and is also just as powerless but she works in a call center. Extra hilarity ensues when the two get constantly into trouble over their fights and everyone thinks it's because of a lover's quarrel or she's a jealous ex.
Just a thought: Amateurs study tactics. Professionals study logistics. This could be made into a really interesting and enjoyable novel...
Not just that, history has shown that you can be a general that's absolutely terrible at tactics and still pull off huge wins as long as you're good at logistics.
Because even if you can't find an enemy weakness, you are likely to have someone in your army that at the very least can find their own ass with both hands and a map that you can promote to take care of that bit for you. If you have no food, ammo or medical supplies, that is harder to fix. (Although if you're clever enough to promote someone that knows how to fix that part you can still win just as big.)
So I guess "Masters study personnel management" should be added to that quote.
A solid NCO core and sufficient bullets, beans, Band-Aids, accountability, and communication. Logistics will be handled by those qualified to produce and transport and training.
"enjoyable novel" Or even more in keeping with the ruinous powers...a Light Novel!!
"I Wanted to Doom this Entire Planet as Tribute to my Dark Gods, so I Opened a Waffle House!" will be on sale soon.
@@Reddotzebra Emperor Augustus is a solid example of that, his friend Agrippa(not sure on spelling the name) was an absolute genius at the whole thing
Your assuming your correct which you are not.
By the God-Emperor....
A whole hour episode!!!!!
We are truly blessed
ive complaining to the norwegian, so im glad hes providing
Yes cult leader this comment here!
yeah I think it says something about me that I was more excited for the logistics video than the regular chaos cultist video
@@sirfunkalot1291 tzeench had a stoke while reading this and died
@@kenrudd6362 on the latest news, the cultist uprising has lost its greatest supporter today due to miss communication, Tzeentch delegates say that the lord of change has officially rescinded its offer of support after meeting the cultists, whom he described as, and i quote, "not worth the effort".
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As someone planning a Chaos Cult, thank you. This will be very helpful.
In a tabletop game right?
...In a game of some sort, right?
......Right?
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HERETIC!!!!
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@@StarboyXL9 Knowing what I know, this will either give me superpowered STDs, brutally murdered, brutally and pornographically murdered, or her naughty bits will be so complex my mind will fold itself inside out trying to understand what I'm coupling with.
@@Acesahn 🙂
I’m imagining a schizophrenic inquisitor that keeps firebombing waffle shops and calling them chaos cults.
Small business?
You mean CHAOS business!
I shall not look on by as these upstarts fund their chaos on my watch!
@@yetipotato8567 You thought it was chaos cultist, but it was actually I, leader of the imperial fist. And I shall fortify this waffle shop. I dare you to lay siege to it. Or are you like the iron wariors, petty, bitter, b*tches, who were called 'unimaginative' by other unimaginative people.
Roscoes Demons and Waffles
You start with extra jelly on your waffle, you end on a Slaneeshi drung induced sex party
Comet Pizza’s basement is in the Warp
I would love to see a full miniseries on the different types of Chaos cults and how they operate. Maybe even Genestealers too.
Genestealer cults.
Step one:
Infiltrate the brothel
Step two:
Profit
@@frankburnstein1195, Step ?: Steal pants
Nurgle Cultists:
Step 1. Find a wealthy and or influencial person with one foot in the grave from cancer or some other incurable illness.
Step 2. Promise them immortality from disease by embracing the gifts of their Grandpa Nurgle.
Step 3. After converting your whale target, he's now in a position where its in his best interest for the entire planet to fall to chaos or else he'll continue to hide in the shadows, worshipping in secret. Threaten him that Nurgle will turn his back on him and let him die if he doesn't help fund the cultural and literal war for the planet.
Step 4. Repeat steps 1-3 until the rest of the planet fall in line.
@@Acesahn step one distribute a video of a arbites kneeling on a citizens back while the citizen says they cant breath.
@@charlesballiet7074 IDK why Nurgle cutlists would give a crap about that. I imagine that'd be more of a Khorne thing. Khorne would be interesting... you'd want to infect the criminals, revolutionaries, gangs, the poor minorities (content minorities will not fertile grounds for chaos) and look to transform their revolution and sense of justice into Khorne fueled RAGE.
Fun fact about copper, it's not the most conductive metal. It's actually second to silver followed by gold and aluminum, but because of the relative value and physical properties of these different metals nearly every case where they can uses steel reinforcing cores in aluminum wire for distribution and copper at point of application they do. This is because it is cheaper to make a thicker wire with the same electrical properties out of aluminum that to make a thinner wire out of gold or silver. All of these metals are relatively weak, so they add the steel for physical support.
Electrician here. I wish more people understood that
Don't forget that you don't just steal cargo to sell it. You also can use things like large quantities of grain as a food supply to help you establish a base somewhere. You can avoid the notice robbing shipments of weapons will gather by grabbing materials you can use to make weapons at your base.
Honestly I wasn't a fan of the "Highway robbery" example.
Like could it work, ya especially if you're just trying to get start up money for future endeavors.
I think a better option that would bring in finds long Term would be to join an existing criminal crew. Think an illegal gambling operation, loan sharking gang, drug dealing, things like that.
That way you keep an illegal income going long term and good source to gain followers from, plenty of young moldible minds ready to make a quick buck.
@@erikjohnson5549 90% of slaanesh cults probably have "sell drugs to the richest idiot who'll bite" as their priority objective
@@TheCreepyLantern step 1 sell drugs step 2 ????? Step 3 praise the dark powers
@@erikjohnson5549 More like try to corrupt,blackmail,bribe a few low level bureaucrats from the Adeptus Administratum or if they are very skilled its sub-division the Departmento Munitorum to gain access the current and up-to date status of the PDF and planet in general.Then they can try to manipulate the happenings of the planet itself. Less rations or police for "cost-saving" in a few small towns here and there,"failing" to pay PDF troopers in some remote areas for months. Making them fertile ground for corruption.Then they can snowball it.Some corrupt administrators join in,some becomes heretics.Some of the disgruntled PDF turn to Chaos,and got relocated,promoted,and nobody got killed this point.Some of those forces relocates into said "neglected" towns,and can corrupt on a larger scale,by presenting an alternative to "rotting corrupt system",by overthwrowing the "uncaring" leadership.In Illegal activites,like gambling, some overzealous Arbites might sniff out some heresy during a raid.
Step 2: exploit the altered/malleable mindstate to convert people
Step 3: profit
Corvus Corax: "Are you sure your logistics chain is ...sustainable?"
Konrad Curze: "*finishes messily eating one of his sons* ...Say what?"
Corvus Corax: "Just... Never mind"
Arch,
That Gaunts ghost novel is called Traitor General. Gaunt leads a team to a chaos world to kill a general who is having his mind lock undone. One of the best novels from that series.
Easily my favourite book in Gaunt's Ghosts so far.
I love that book, but it is subject to the most egregious examples of Mkvenner syndrome.
@@mewmeister8650 whats mkvenner syndrome?
@@funbro99 The ability of Ghosts, especially Scouts, to accomplish ludicrous feats with little justification. The first big instance is when Mkoll kills a chaos dreadnought with an improvised explosive. Other examples include Chaos Space Marines getting instakilled by blowdarts. I call it Mkvenner Syndrome since Mkvenner falls prey to it far more than his brethren.
The Dart didn't kill the Chaos space marine. The CSM took note of how Virlant the poison was to even effect him, but what killed him was the Ghosts swinging in and dropping a det pack on him. Killing them in the explosion.
As for the Dreadnaught and the overloading power pact. While it is true that Mkoll used it. That was actually a nod to eariler books by other authors. Abbnett was not the one to introduce that concept. He simply gave a nod to it.
You know for a faction known as Chaos they are sure damn organized in their uprisings.
I’m sure for every successful chaos uprising there’s 100s that have crashed and burned.
That's what happens when your IP is build apon a mountain of references and ripoffs. Alot of chaos stuff, including the name and symbol is taken from the Elric saga.
I'd assume that their social structures aren't specifically chaotic in organization. The people who aren't self consciously chaotic will probably take orders. The rest will go along to gain more power and do more "worship."
People always underestimate Chaos.
One note on the "khorne guys would run out of food/water" thing. There's a LOT of both in a human being. Like 100-200 pounds a pop. just saying.
Isn't there a whole thing about cannibal cults of khorne being a issue in hive cities because soylent green?
They already have a food company 😂
I mean, I'm sure Khorne understands the concept of supply lines or raiding and stuff, for when this chaos cult uprising goes into full swing
on first look - yes. However, don't those humans need food and water too? otherwise, they die and then rot n a couple days. Khornates would outlive such food only by a little.
Playing Warhammer Total War in Beastman forest path battles you would see giant fungal growths everywhere and there are some peculiar build.
So, I personally just take it Nurgle handles the provisions through less toxic/diseased fungi and grubs that start growing on masse in corrupted locale. He wouldn't be too friendly with Slaanesh/Tzeentch, but those guys can handle logistics themselves.
@@AkiKii519 well, if they all eat each other, and you properly dry and conserve the meat, you could ostensibly live off a human being for upwards of 2-3 weeks. Now sure, that would see a pretty severe reduction of the population within a few months, but that's still a lot more time than "they all starve to death in 2 weeks".
Plus this is all discounting the possibility of warpgiven blessings that simply remove the need for food and drink
It's perfect that you mentioned LA in a video about how CHAOS can rise to power.
Let's just hope there's no actual Chaos cults in LA, though saying that is a double edged sword, as I'd be happy to see LA, particularly Hollywood, burn to the ground, hopefully with a good deal of the population with their brains too far up their own backsides to notice the flames that are busy consuming the whole building, with the exception of all the good people that will have already left long before the massive fires begin.
7:29 to give a slightly different example, organized crime in New York in the 1960’s. The different gangs used to hijack trucks coming out of Idlewild Airport (now JFK Airport) regularly and sell the stolen goods for less than it was worth to wholesalers or even to the stores the trucks were originally headed to. Why less than it’s worth? Because they spent maybe $50 to find out what was going to be on that truck, so anything over that was profit. Didn’t matter what was on the trucks, cuz someone would buy it, and this had been going on so long that everyone just kinda accepted it as part of doing business in New York.
A cult stealing stuff doesn’t need that stuff to be valuable, as long as they have a place to sell it that won’t ask questions, as any price they can get for it will be profit.
I'm noticing a very "Moriarti" aspect here. As common as chaos cults might appear, the truth is they pivot on at least one center of diamond-solid organization that REALLY knows what it's doing. In short, the only assurance you'll get a proper chaos cult going is with... well, a Deacon with a lot of forbidden books perhaps? Or how about some chaos space marines? Basically, if there isn't already a pure chaos seed, you at least need the near-perfect makings of one.
For the most part, I think I'm inclined to agree with you: Arch is working on the assumption that you're trying to build a Chaos Cult from the ground up, but it's probably at least as common for an enterprising Champion of Chaos to take control of an existing organisation - imagine, for example, if Rasputin had actually had some magical powers.
Likewise, it's worth considering that it's perfectly possible to worship the Chaos gods without realising you're doing so. I'm reminded of a short story in Psychic Awakening featuring sect violence between two factions of Imperial Creed pilgrims with differering scriptural interpretations, which rapidly escalates into an all-out nexus of Khorne.
I think you need a "pure seed" or the perfect circumstances for a successful chaos takeover. You don't need nearly as much to simply do an incalculable amount of damage to a world without taking it over. Chaos is probably happy with both
@@Kevin-ls2gt Happy with both, I agree!
@@stephenwood6663 The White Dwarf one with the arbites and refugees packed into a space station?
Ehh I disagree completely.
I dont think things need to be anywhere near perfect. In all honesty just a competent cult will be more then capable of doing the job. You would only need a near perfect one if the planet in question is run exceptionally well.
We must keep in mind that most things are generally not run very well. Espessial bureaucracies such as the imperium.
Now I’m thinking about chaos marines being courier drivers but instead of parcels they deliver virus bombs or complete slaughter.
Chaos: "Delivery for the Lord Commander of the Segmentum."
Lord Commander: "I didn't order anything, I hope it's not the inquisition again."
**Chaos deilver Virus bombs and Slaughter**
Lord Commander: "Emperor no that's the third time this week!"
As a former courier, I must admit there is a few clients i would not mind dropping a virus bomb off at....mostly the people that insist that trashcans, potted plants, etc belong in front of mailboxes when ordering deliveries at night! Seriously anyone doing that shit deserves a virus bomb!
Actually am fairly certain couriers are one of the biggest source of chaos cultists in 40k!
a chaos marine crammed into one of those little mail trucks.
@@Elenrai they know the land, they can go anywhere and no one looks at you twice . . .
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus and if you enter someones property you just need plausibel excuse, and you quickly learn the number of residents at a certain address, and sometimes you can even tell when people are not home when regular deliveries get paused and resumed, after a few years of contacting law enforcement you are able to put yourself above suspicion due to your previous actions as the eyes of the law enforcement, you have access to vehicles and develop a routine for driving on the limit of what is safe, and you sometimes get oppertunities, say someone leaves the front door wide open or a car unlocked with a door open, ive seen both of the latter cases and driven on the sidewalk in front of police, it is a really good position for passing certain heretical messages along thru dead drops...it is almost surprising its not mentioned in a novel but I guess most authors doing 40k do not associate with the lower classes 😅
As a former military intel analyst, this is the kind of shit that processes through my brain as shower thoughts and other idle moments.
"If you want to plunge your world into the everlasting damnation start by cleaning your room. Unless you nurglite. In that case, carry on."
Maybe these would help with daemon summoning:
- Virgin blood is best
- Goat blood must be no older than 3 days
- Entrails must be removed and apportioned either before death, or no
later than 30min
- Candles must be sorted by tallest in back to shortest in front - never
the other way around!
Now to the problem of how to find a virgin, it is so sad when you cannot trust people.
@@michaelpettersson4919 He never said it had to be a female virgin....or even a human one ...Get creative and improvise
@@epicstyle1000 Yep but it reminds me of an idea I had where in a fantasy setting some alchemists gave the whole profession a bad rep due to not understanding that "virgin blood" are not the same as "blood of a virgin". They idea was that "virgin blood" would be fresh blood whatever the donor was a virgin or not. And "blood of a virgin", in small amounts can be harvested by the droplets with no need to actually do anything horrific.
@@epicstyle1000 It took master industrial demon summoners to realize you could get your virgin blood, goat blood and entrails from the same source. Now for the candles...
@@michaelpettersson4919 as messed up as this sounds. A new born baby is still considered a virgin. so just cut the little welp out of its mother, wait for it to scream and now you have some virgin blood... As virgin as it gets. Man, I don't feel comfortable with my own thoughts anymore
I have never loved Logistics, but after watching Arch for the past couple years, I have learned to both Love, & understand its major importance in both the Modern World, & the 40k Universe. Thank you Arch
This is why the vast, vast majority of modern militaries are made up of technical and support personnel. Of all the personnel in the US military less than 6% actually pull a trigger at the enemy, the other 96% are supporting them. Food preparation, transport, medical, information technology, various sciences, intelligence, training, engineering, legal work, mechanical support, and the list goes on. Military operations aren't won by trigger pullers alone, they are usually decided by whom has the greater logistics..
@@colinkillian9265 96% of the military supports the other 6%, you say? Sounds like math done by the Marine corps.
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican got that crayola colour math sheet
As they say: amateurs talk strategy, pros talk logistics..
This kinda video here is exactly why arch has been my favorite source of warhammer lore since his total war warhammer faction videos. Godspeed you magnificent bastard!
When Arch was talking about the copper on the railways being stripped my only thought was whether or not the thieves were selling the copper straight back to the government, repeatedly. It sounds like the kind of thing that would happen in Norway.
Reminds me of how people would steal the iron or steel storm drain vents and manhole covers, to have it turned into scrap metal for reselling.
I heard in Belarus they solved this problem by outright banning buying scrap metal from populous
Hey Arch could you do a video explaining the Cold Trade? The illegal trade of xenos commodities by unscrupulous individuals who deal with the alien scum either for profit or for survival's sake. Sounds awesome to me.
There's no doubt that this is where arch truly shines.
At the end of the day, Chaos is a lot like communism. You think you’ll be in a Khorne fight club or Slaneeshi cult, but in reality you’ll still just have to go back to your day job with the addition of daemons running around and your new boss looking like a weirdo.
"You think you want a chaos planet, but you actually don't."---some guy from an ancient video game company. His last words.
I think it's more like a confederation,they are split into fours and do there own thing until something big happens and then they form an alliance to do said big something.
chaos, like communism, is based
@@individual2122 nah, 95% of the Chaos God’s energy and time is fighting with each other in the warp in the “Great Game”. The alliance happened as a “This human-thing is trying to kill us, and he’s powerful enough to actually be a credible threat… We need to deal with this”
@@fencserx9423 isn't that what orks do as well?
Why I like battletech is that these issues come up and are laid out in detail.
😂 The Copper theft story reminds me of what happens here in Puerto Rico where the heroin junkies steal the electrical wiring from abandoned houses and power lines. Sadly, a couple a year get fried to a crisp that even Popeyes would envious of... ✌️
Always gotta have that one dumbass tweeker that thinks "there's lots of copper in those power lines."
Wasn't that an issue in some parts of Africa as well?
Iirc, they were trying to bring electricity to regions and people outside the city. Just to get all their copper wire stolen by the locals. Mainly because that copper was worth more money than whatever they could get by working.
this man has helped keep my dnd villains up to snuff for years thnks mate for showing me how to set up a real chaos cult
"GRAAAA take your corpse rations NYAAAAGH no more than two REEEEE no, Ronald, that's three, put one back KILLLL"
That's how I imagine supplies are distributed when a Chaos cult is frenzied.
These are the types of videos that set this channel apart. Fckn Chaos Logistics ftw
When a Chaos uprising triumphs,sacrfising a portion the planets population,is not merely their religious obligation,but a necessity.Since that moment on the planet is cut off from the wider imperium and unable to access to its technologies or even the popultaions bare necessities.There is a high probability that the planets infrastructure(water processing,heating,electricity,food storage) was damaged during the fighting and chaos.So mass killings is not just simple insanity.It also solidifies their rule and commitment,and subjzgates the population
More waffles for us! The ritual gang grape and mass murder is just the cherry on the cake huh?!?
@@toprob20 Better kill the "lackies of the corpse God" with a sense of purpose serving the "True gods" with their deaths than an honest follower of the Dark Gods die off starvation,meaninglessly.It also keeps the "true believers" occupied with something,since I can't imagine Heretic Joe going to the manufactorioum anymore,anytime,thus preventing an interconflict between heretics
@@toprob20 Waffles AND gang grapes AND cherries AND cake? Were you hungry when you wrote that comment? xD
@@toprob20 blood jam for the blood god is their real teahing?.
Techpriest in the background: Is this nut job doing a "how too" recording on overthrowing a world today? Oh well I've got books to put back in place.
With this knowledge, it will now be easier to stop undivided cults.
For the Emperor.
Stop?
FoR THE EMPEROR and the Imperium of MAN!
"Stop."
By stop we mean blow up the hive city
As Ross Scott once put it, the movies might make it seem like all you need to start a cult is a bonfire and a bunch of robes, but in reality, you need a _lot_ more than that.
This is why I love your videos Arch. You get into the dirty details of how the good or bad guys have such stuff to fight with. It’s one thing to say in a book that “The Enemy is coming to attack with 10,000 tanks!” Most will over look it just to hype up the danger of the enemy, but you Arch will go into detail on how the hell this guy has 10,000 tanks and where he pull it out from where the sun doesn’t shine.
Logistics! - the true way to get stuff done
By the Emperor these are my favorite type of lore video, long and on obscure subjects in the 40kverse
This video was invaluable for helping me along with some of my ideas with my fanfic/army story. I have a large Word Bearers and Night Lords chaos warband that I write fiction for. Their main setting, I call it, is in the underhive of a certain hive on a hive world (say hive again, please). The Word Bearers are creating mutant cults and infiltrating the upper hives while the Night Lords sow terror amidst the Houses and Guilds in the middle. It has been a lot of fun.
“The Devil-Worshipper Is A Part-Timer” sounds like it’d be a hilarious series to watch! Maybe even starring our favorite Chaos worshipper Cultist-chan? xD
Thought process: How can I find out how to subvert the government and start a revolution without asking google?
Hey Arch! How does one start a chaos uprising?
I find logistics to be a great way to calm my mind, believe it or not. In a recreational sense that is. If I'm having a bad day and I need to calm down? I can play something like oh I don't know, Tropico, or Cities Skylines, or Civilization, and just focus my mind on the acquisition of resources, connecting trade routes, building infrastructure, things like that and it relaxes me. So a video like this was very nice and calming indeed, despite the subject matter lol
I am creating a xenos cult in a Dark Heresy game I am playing in, so suffice to say, this was a good watch, and I even learned some things!
47:00 Well Arch, if you got a month worth of supplies for 100 people and due to mad berzerk bloodshed you only got 10 people left today compared to 100 yesterday then you got 10 months worth of food left.
What about preserving it? If it has an expiration date and isn't refrigerated, you'll still only have a month's worth of food.
@@sonofjack6286 Might be a problem on feudal or feral worlds, for hive worlds it isn't much of an issue since they prepare massive amounts of supplies specifically for supply disruptions, sometimes years worth of food in stockpiles.
Corpse starch is also always available.
Chaos is something of misnomer, really the core mantra of Chaos is more 'might makes right' or 'the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must' than it is anarchist rioting. So as long as you have a leader of sufficient strength and skill there isn't any problem with the idea of a well-organized and disciplined Chaos empire.
Sounds like Early Catholicism
Chaos. Sounds like Anarchism to me.
Thank you for these Chaos Cultist vid series. You may not know how VERY VALUABLE they really in fact are...
No founding any independent Badab sectors there mr Huron
The ultimate problem with chaos is that it is fundamentally an ideology of complete selfishness, and as such you can ONLY ever govern others through manipulation at best. This more than even the influence of chaos itself is why all organizations based around it are self consuming. Some simply get bigger than others before they self destruct.
Like communism
@@Zerpderp0 Yes.
Khorne values honor and order...so no, not all chaos is the same.
@@Nempo13 Back in first edition maybe, in modern Warhammer there is scant evidence of anything like that at all.
When was the last time you can name that Khorn rewarded someone for behaving honorably?
I like to think that they summon the demons, who enslave and eat them, before they consume themselves.
Arch: “How do you summon a GOD! DAMNED! DEMON!?!”
*the scribes behind him look up. The techpriest reaches for its weapon*
Arch: “…I. DON’T. KNOW.”
you really need to do an episode on the arbites
or at least on why their equipment rivals most military forces
Arch: acutely not that one ( when refering to some dank cave) it'll grow mold like crazy
Nugle cultist: you say that like it's a bad thing
We're gonna need some more of this, if you don't mind, Mr Arch. We need more on the logistics behind a Chaos Cult, or maybe even the opposite: How Imperium Special Forces stage Loyalist revolts in a Chaos held world or "How to operate a resistance on a Tau world".
I hope we eventually get an Ork logistics episode, that features an Orky-Arch leading his own band of boyz.
I will almost certainly use this as brainstorming for 40K TTRPG campaigns. Thank you.
Intercepted chaos cult communication-
"send Lawyers, Guns and Money!"
Don't forget weed, beer n bitches!!!
If there's never has been "wh40k chaos cultist simulator: the game", there should be one
An epic game where your entire world are absorbed into the warp if you are particularly successful.
Q: What do you eat?
A:
Khornate: *"We eat what we killed. Simple as."*
Tzeenchian: *_"Eating_** is an outdated concept."*
Nurglite: *"Poop."*
Slanneshi: *_"Ufufufu~_** you really want to know?"*
Khornite Logistician: Yes, yes, we all demand Blood for our Blood God, and Skulls for the Skull Throne, but how are we going to bring them there without promethium?
Khornite Beserker: **Throws down sack full of blood filled skulls, howls uncontrollably.**
Khornite Logistician: Dammit Brother Demetrius, for the last time: I said attack the fuel convoy and get fuel.
Khornite Beserker: -bL_oO_D Is -*-MY-*- fUEl!! mY *LIFE*!!-
Khornite Logistician: **Prolonged Sigh.**
pretty sure that khornates can use blood as fuel
How about a video on how as an Inquisitor you would discover track and destroy chaos cults
33:37 Yes yes. This is the lore I come for.
I did not expect to be this interested in logistics hahaha
it might be fun to play an adaption of Inquisition as A group of Cultists with the one goal to mess up their planet by whatever means.
The dull reek of conformity. This planet does not live it merely exists, and soon not even that.
@@VesiustheBoneCruncher It is up to the blessed to bring perfection onto this world of suffering existence. An end to the show and true values upon the cattle. From the conformity of their flesh, we shall feast upon the beef of their labor and drink the fruit of their blood like wine. Ours the many headed beast of mankinds probate. Give into the chaos past the corpse seal. Accept true power.
"A passion for arson and criminal insanity"
I could hear the smile in that line, and it hides the ears.
I love these awesome lore videos you do Arch especially when it comes to chaos i.e Khorne or Nurgle (my two favourite chaos gods) so keep up the awesome lore videos. Also the best way to get me to join a chaos cult is to offer me a lot of Tim Hortons coffee that I don't have to share with anybody else 😁🇨🇦
Well, you start with a "Defund the Arbites" movement.
can you do a genestealer cult comparison for this?
I bet allot of it is fairly similar, but the differences would still interest me
The thrusts are for work, not for pleasure.
Would you do one of these looking at the logistics of a genestealers cult insurrection
Similar idea except a little easier being able to spread the love with ye old Genestealer Kiss
I love this video thank you.
I love logistics I worked at several shipping companies throughout my life.
And more than that I do love me some chaos undivided.
That's the army of choice I play.
As a logistician by profession, a wargaming nerd by love, and a 40k paywr by hobby, I cannot describe how much this tickles my fancy.
Logistics of the Imperium and traitor/heretic forces fascinate me for some reason I mean it’s minutia but minutia that’s more than just a footnote.
The first few minutes seems like an intro to a cool game, get on it Kibs
Does anyone know if Arch has officially given up on the Horus Heresy Breakdown?
he mentioned on one of the streams he did relatevly recently,that the new books are hot garbage and he cant get himself to work on them
@@tommysmalls6158 thats a shame.
@@tommysmalls6158 the siege of terra books
Hey I know this might be a stretch but could it be possible for a mini series of some sort of how the various chaos warbands might go about there general murder and conquest. like how the night lords might gain compliance over a world through public bloody assassination's and fear, or how a khorneate warlord might go about using devastating (if somewhat uncontrollable) shock troops while still running a semi orgnanized military effort. etc etc just a series on how chaos fights how each legion or chaotic faction wages the long war
We worship the aspects of the emperor, the protective warrior, the caring pappa, the bringer of happiness and the bringer of progression......
Crazy how im doing rp about this and looked for a video with little hope. But it seems that arch got my back, once again!
Have you seen Army Combat Veterns reaction to the first few videos in your seige of Vraks series?
He's a US Army Military Police Platoon Leader. Served in Iraq or Afghanistan to train the local police forces...and yes, we all know how well that went. But he has a lot of real world military training and experience, as a leader of many men in multiple operations.
It will be quite cool if arch brings him in for arch cast and talk
@@tylerghersinich6162 yes, it would. 🤍
Choas is a dog chasing cars, if they ever catch one they won't know what to do with it.
Chaos is about the journey, not the destination. Except those Nurgle guys. They know what they want.
"If you jump directly from waffles to anal sex, you are likely to frighten a considerable portion of your potential devoutees."
Thank god I listen with headphones, it'd be hard to explain that quote to a passerby.
@17:30 There was a real life study about ideology conversions that found it was easier to convert a communist into a nazi and nazi into a communist than it was a capitalist into one of the former two.
Now do the logistics of maintaining a Chaos cult in Norway! 😉
This kinda got me thinking, if defrauding the Emperors Tithes is Heresy, by extension somewhere in the Ordo Hereticus their must be a whole sect of Inquisitor Accountants ready to audit a governor's tax returns with exteme predjucie
Oh I'm sure that the Imperial equivolent to the IRS has an entire planet or 12 dedicated to all that paperwork... Then again it took them 100 years to notice the Damocles Gulf had stopped paying their tithes and had joined a new Xenos Empire?
A strategy game where you're a chaos cult trying to take over a hive world could be really fun.
This was very good.
Thorough, logical and long enough for proper immersion.
Well done
Tactics may win battles, but logistics win wars.
Napoleon was a brilliant tactician, winning numerous battles, but ultimately lost bc in Russia when supplies ran dry there were no granaries to plunder that haven't already been burnt by Russians themselves. He lost not to a brilliant tactical display, but calculated strategy and his own poor logistics...
I paused right at 30:07. I pressed play, and immediately started laughing. Thank you, Arch 😂
Hey arch? Out of curiosity how about a video on the Red Corsairs. I just rewatched the baddab war, and I realized you never made a proper video on the red coursairs though I know you had intended to.
Also how about a video on piracy in general in 40k, and its logistics.
Pressing play now, but atm I'm confused how you made an hour video of:
"Purge?"
"Purge."
"Okay let's purge."
Great video, can you also please cover chaos uprising/cult fighting from pdf/inquisition point of view? It would be interesting to hear how local law enforcement would react to the signs of chaos cult, how they would investigate it, when and if inquisition get involved, and finally how they would fight it. Otherwise, keep up the good work.
Moral of the story?
NEVER accept an invatation from Arch to come over for strawberry jam-drenched waffles. We all know where things are headed from there...
2:48
"Hey you! Dirty opressed citizen! Do you wish to take control of your life?"
"Yes."
"Do you wish to attain power?"
"Yes!"
"Do you wish to take your rightful place in life and do unto others as they have done onto you?"
"YES!"
"Well then the first step would be to take a responsible stance in life and get yourself financially secure by getting a job."
"Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff, I knew it was too good to be true."
*Summons a demon and it starts murdering my friends*
"Rude."
The necessary steps to arm a chaos cult for an uprising:
1. Look for anything that could even remotely pass for a weapon in your current vicinity.
2. Howl all sorts of crazy BS like a rabid MF.
3. If you can't find anything, lower your standards and repeat steps 1 & 2 until everyone has a weapon and a sore throat.
3. Tell your guys you actually have tons of proper weapons ready for them to grab, just ahead.
4. Do not mention the caveat that these _ready_ weapons must first be looted from the Imperial's cold dead hands after they've been used against your crazies for a bit.
5. "Tally ho lads, let's go show these bloody Imperial nonce buggers just how absolutely ever-so-slightly miffed we can get."
Elementary school tip. Arch.
The ‘c’ in stalactites stands for ‘ceiling’
The ‘g’ in stalagmites stands for ‘ground’
Maybe the real Chaos was all the friends we made along the way.
We can defeat the enemy with the power of friendship! Also, I made this bomb along the way. It might help too.
@@amorphoussolid8512 No enemy can stand against The Power of Friendship. Believe it!
@@amorphoussolid8512 Blowing up shit is pretty cool tho...
I figured with the myriad of different gangers in the underhives the protection racket would be extremely lucrative . What merchant wouldn't want insurance against their shops constantly getting burnt down, or even just against local thugs making off constantly with the merch?
Arch should do more logistics videos there fun
I always imagine that the maddened berserkers are just living off of the flesh and blood of their enemies and a little Khornate vigor.