Making & Testing HEAVY DUTY Button Tool Holder | Shop Made Tools
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2024
- We're tackling the challenge of making a heavy duty button tool holder that can handle even the most demanding lathe jobs. ️We'll take you step-by-step through the process of using our milling machine to craft the tool holder. We start by machining down all the faces using a fly cutter and indexable shell mill. We also use a roughing end mill to clean up the ends before going in with a ball nose end mill to contour the corners of the holder. We then tackle the most daunting part of the process of drilling and tapping a hole for a tiny 3.5mm screw that holds in the button insert. The next thing is to cut a radius on the front to give the insert some relief before deburring all the edges to complete the tool holder. We then put our new tool holder to the ultimate test by using it to machine the eye off a big EX1900 cylinder rod!
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- Hafco BM-63VE Milling machine
- Hafco TM-26120G Centre Lathe
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These heavy-duty tool holders are game-changers! We're stoked with how they turned out, not only do they look amazing, but using them will make jobs that much more enjoyable! Did anyone else get pucker factor when Kurtis was doing the threading with those miniscule taps!? 😅
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have a great weekend o/
Hey Down Under, have a wonderful weekend, appreciate todays video to keep me up tonight ,
cheers from the other 'Sunshine State',, Paul
I'm a retired electrician, drilling and tapping 3.5mm and 4mm was the normal range for me, although I have tapped up to 25mm conduit threads for cable entry on machines. The hardest, and most buttock clenching, was cast iron bases for production line machining engine blocks for Ford and Jaguar.
Most of the time it was the smaller sizes on control panel and machine wiring jobs when populating the control cabinet with DIN rails and various components.
I'm doing some home projects at the moment for which I've ordered a range of pipe thread taps up to 1".
A thought for the future if more of those small threads come your way... Clickspring is also in Qld and he may appreciate the novelty of working on something large. 😉
I kept looking for the, Click. As in snapping one. Kurtis is great at what he does. I had no fear to be honest.
Curtis works on a $10,000 lift cylinder off a D11 - "She'll be right mate"
Curtis works on a 3.5mm tap - *STRESS*
😂😂
Model engineer here. Those tool holders are about the size of my largest work piece. M3.5 taps are no problem. I've snapped a couple of M1.5 taps though😅
I was just laughing my ass off on Kurtis nervousness with this tap size😂
@@petedepledge3359 Curtis would only have to look at a M1½ tap and it would snap.
I cringed every time that tiny tap squeaked. I was only watching and my blood pressure went through the roof.
So true. I could feel the mental pressure from here. I guess what other people consider to be "normal tool size" is considered "fiddly work" by Kurtis. 😆😂😄
And again Curtis pulls a classic Crocodile Dundee with a shop made tool. „That‘s not a tool holder, THIS is a tool holder!“ Nice work!
Kurtis, christ it's even on his shirt.
@@malcolmirving9485 That's what happens if you leave it to spell checker, happened to me a couple of times but edited after seeing the post.🤬🤣
Did I miss it?
At what timestamp did he parafrase Crocodile Dundee?
@@larslindgren3846 It was just the comment made, nothing that Kurtis said.
@@everestyetiTruly a missed opportunity, would have been very funny.😂
"I was just plunging straight in." we expect nothing less from you Curtis!
Easy rule of thumb in sub-5mm taps - half turn forwards, 2 back. This is due to chip size/ thread relief size. Clear those chips out. I regularly do 1.5mm/2mm in stainless, and this has stood me in good stead
Question about my taps. I have a gearwrench brand. Their instructions say only go forward, but I find that they work well backing up to clear the chips. Any thoughts on not backing up?
@@donaldjordan8832. They sell tools! I’ve broken too many to believe that method in anything other than one of the taps made expressly for machine use, I have never owned one nor used one, but have seen them used by machinists online and they have grinds that spin the chip out as it is being cut. One chip per flute from beginning to end. Send gearwrench a note asking if they will come to you and remove the broken tap, and replace! Bet that doesn’t get answered 😂
Thanks for the tip!
Sounds good. All too many times they’re locking up as you’re backing out and you don’t want that either.🇬🇧
Use form tap :-/
Love the fact that among all the heavy duty dangerous jobs you do tapping a 3.5mm thread is what makes you nervous 😂👍love the content
Curtis, nothing but respect, you are the only person I have ever seen who is worried about the fit and finish of a tool that will be used for heavy work, even though it has no bearing on the tool working, you make it look like art. I can respect that! And your videographer deserves a raise, her skills are top notch.
I would have gone after the finish on these tools with a Cratex polishing tool before nitriding them. OK, I admit it: I'm nuts.
If he needs to see it and use it frequently enough to warrant making one himself, I can understanding wanting it to be as perfect as possible. All the custom tooling he makes ends up being a representation of his professional pride and skillset.
@@6NBERLS I'm not familiar with Cratex. They look interesting, but how well do they work?
I also would have finished the tools nicer by removing the machining marks. It would have been easy to shorten the bottom to match the holder and I would have tig welded a little chunk on the back end to make it match. It wouldn't have taken long to detail those before sending them out for coating.
“If I were to make these tools that are perfect for what I need again, I’d make them absolutely flawless” Just shows how much Kurtis actually cares about his work and how much he takes pride in what he does. Love the videos! Keep up the amazing workmanship and the amazing videography!!
seconded!
Thirded Is that a thing? ;-)
@@Canyonman44 it is now!
Karen, you get loads of comments about your excellent production values. It would be highly appreciated if you could do a wee video on the equipment you use, and what editing software you use? You would have several factors making life hard for you, like getting the shots without Kurtis getting in the way, and keeping things steady with the close ups - especially considering that you would need to set up fairly well back to avoid swarf and coolant. So please give it some thought, and if anyone else is interested, they could maybe give this comment a like. Thanks.
I'm especially amazed how well she joins and overlaps sounds on speedup parts. Amazing job.
I was just thinking the exact same thing!
Trevor, I guess you've become an pro videographer after publishing 10 videos, how about enjoying the video and if you don't like the way it's done, go watch something else!!
@@rickharper1497 , Is english a second language for you? He was only asking her to share her equipment and process. He was not bashing her.
13:24
I smiled when you talked about the small changes you would make - that's exactly the sort of perfectionism and attention to detail from you guys that we love.
Looks great, glad you're happy - thanks for another Friday night's entertainment.
I would have milled the bottom to match as he mentioned, then tig welded a small chunk on the back and blended just to match the other end of the tool holder, and would have cleaned off the machining marks on my 2x72 grinder. It wouldn't have taken that long to do.
It's funny watching you be so delicate on that 3.5mm tap, just knowing this tool will be used to tear into multi-tonne cylinders. The irony of such different scales of force involved in making a tool and using it.
Morning Kurtis and Karen! My husband and I watched this together, as we do for ALL your videos. Great work (as usual) making your heavy duty tool holders. We had to laugh though at 3.5mm being your smallest tap set. We were professional model makers of cars and motorcycles and frequently use 0.8mm taps and dies, so a 3.5 is quite a bit larger!! All lathe and mill work is manual as we believe we must be hands on in the production of everything, from the frames and chassis, to the smallest screws and hex head bolts. We thoroughly enjoy all the variety of work you undertake and never miss a video. Magnificent work by both of you, much appreciated!
I would love your website!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. Many of us would have a heart arrest just to THINK about a 0,8 tap 😅😅😅
Its 7 am, just got in from work..Boots off...Egg and bacon sandwich and a beer.....and a CCE video.....sleep can wait.
Even the DRO is telling you to ALE.
@@SimonShaw-ij7iz 🤣👍🍻
Who needs to watch thriller movies when Kurtis is out here keeping us in the utmost suspense with a 3.5 mm tap and thread process 😂😂😂 and when the camera zooms in so quickly around the 24:00 mark....my heart jumped thinking the tap was about too snap 😅😂
Another great video and terrific shop tool episode team. Absolute A+ content as always. Keep it up CEE
A nasty trick in a workshop, is to come behind someone and break a piece of wood when tapping a thread.
It was a 3.5 mm x0.6 tap
@@bostedtap8399 that is on a whole nother level of workplace torture, I love this!!!!
@@Sicktrickintuner HE SAID 3.5 MIL SCREW
the way the tap flexed was a little nailbiting 😬
I FEEL VINDICATED!!! Whenever doing a home repair job, it seems I need that single specialty tool to really do the job right. Even in a shop as well outfitted as Cutting Edge, this job required a new end mill and tap set. Case in point, last nights trip to the home improvement center for wrenches to install a sink. THANK YOU for validating that sometimes you just have to buy that new tool.
by the way, fantastic camera work too!
Or Make It !
@@user-ok7qf9oq9s You need skill to make the tool, anyone can buy the right tool. I think I'm in the latter category!
If there is a choice between buying/making a new tool to do a job or paying someone to come do the job for you, choose the new tool every time. You never know when it will be used for another job.
@@Mark_Bridges My wife and I used to have a complexity index for home improvement jobs, which told me how many tools I could buy. 1 or 2 trips to Home Depot, that's easy, go buy the tools. 3 to 4 trips, kind of iffy, consider calling someone. 5 trips and up, usually too complex for me, call someone. And I still ended up with a boatload of specialty tools. Yeah, I buy tools whenever I can to get the job done.
Like a Watchmaker,like a precision fabricator,like a mechanical wizard always surprises and surpasses our expectations!
Yes Kurtis is great to watch a very skilled professional
Karen’s sigh of relief was priceless. You can tell she is right there in it with you.
It is 2:00 a.m. here in Michigan. Dark, middle of the night. I am up from my "first-sleep" settling my back for my "second-sleep". Love having this to watch. (I suffered a broken neck in an accident, and now can only sleep 3.5 - 4 hours before back pain wakes me. Sitting upright for 30 minutes relieves the pain and I can go back to sleep again.)
4:30 am In Buenos Aires, sorry about you pain 😕
Try sleeping on waterbed with water pillow, for regular sleep. May just do the job.
Same here
Minneapolis, I ate an apple last night. Watch the sugar especially after dinner.
I'm only here for the dog. The machining, line boring, welding, lathe work, unlimited knowledge, etc is only secondary 😍
I totally agree. Such a lovable doggy.
The dog? You mean homeless. The security dog.
Nice work Kurtis. A little tip from me as I worked for a manufactorer for tooling: You need to offset the thread to get a bit of tension for the insert in the seat. Mostly with the M3,5 its 0,1 to 0,15mm
Tap first, then creep back on that taper cut.
Pretty sure a smart lad like Kurtis has this covered!
Oh loving it. Just sent link to my bro in Sydney retired from Cathay Engineering. Smiled at your "I am rather heavy handed" well the weights you generally work with ain't for jewellers...pls keep your honesty it is rare. And thankyou both for exceptional videos (Capalaba)
cheers mate thanks for watching and sharing with your bro!
That Friday feeling starts with a CEE upload.
Kurtis is a steel magician, but wouldn't be famous if not for the sublime camera work, editing and... giggles by Karen.
Love your work!
G'day from Belgium 👋
Your perhaps best quality as a person providing a service to your customers is your thoughtfulness in considering how your innovations can save your customers money. Very rare these days! Like I’ve said before, Kurtis, if I was in Australia and had heavy industrial equipment I’d be determined to have CEE do my maintenance work. Money well spent where someone cares enough about the customer to save him money which you regularly do! 👍 Australia should be proud!
Adding a tool to your arsenal that solves a specific annoying problem is always a pleasure
Not sure how you guys do it, love the weekly vids, but hope you guys don’t get burned out. If you released every 2 weeks I would not cry about it as I think you guys deserve a break. Keep up the good work Curtis and Karen
Hey mate thanks for the kind words and support! If we ever feel that way we definitely take a break but 1 video a week is manageable most of the time 😄👊
It's what makes them in the true sense *"professional"*
But if they don’t post every week, how will I know when to finish work on a Friday?
I worked as a machinist in a shipyard for years. We had to drill some very small holes and special ordered drill bits. Don't remember what size they were but they were about the diameter of a straight pin. Talk about being nervous, I was. Luckily I didn't break them.
Blasphemy 😮
imagine the outtakes if that little tap broke! 😂
He might have thrown us (the camera) across the shop! 😁
10:02 Carl's back at it with "clearance is clearance" 😂 had me stressed and its not my vice!
We have clearance Clarence...
Aussie engineering at its finest.
First try and you showed it no mercy.
The fly cutter was the ticket.
Karan didn't even complain about a rain coat filming spraying coolant. 😅
This is incredible as I've grown to expect, Kurtis. I bet you could sell these tool holders to other heavy equipment machine shops for thousands!
That small tapping is finally a taste of the machining I'm used to 😂In my Ph.D., we machined all sorts of custom stuff for physics experiments. Most of it was this tiny stuff. I worked mostly in aluminum, occasionally brass and stainless, and mostly for laser and optics experiments. Truly impressive were the folks next door who did low-temperature condensed matter physics, and they did this kind of precision small machining in materials like carbon fiber and (worst of all) oxygen-free copper. Oxygen-free copper is incredibly soft and wants to gall and tear all over the place, taking tools with it. At that point you just accept that you're going to be throwing away drills, taps, and parts, and you design the parts as simple as possible so that you will eventually end up with a finished one.
You've got Kurtis working on the biggest things, and Chris working on the smallest clockwork there is. Both Australian, and both make fantastic videos.
Man, I thought you would have at least touched the vise with that end mill, but you blew those shavings off and everything was intact. That for me was the highlight of this video, awesome!
The camera operator sigh at 24:45, I think I gasped in sync!
Friday therapy is here once again. 😊😊
Excellent work Kurtis I am very very impressed and I am a 72 year old prick and rarely hand out compliments. You deserve a trophy or at least a cape like Superman. Keep up the great work I truly love your channel.
Art from Ohio
Never been so absolutely frozen in suspense watching you tap that tiny hole. I held my breath the entire time. Please dont snap on poor Curtis 🤞😑🫰
Curtis, his wife, and Homeless, NEVER DISAPPOINT!!! Awesome Content!!! Truly is a joy watching their content, especially the out-takes they show at end of the videos!!! I feel exactly like Curtis does, when I’m doing something, or saying something and it totally goes awry!!! Lol!!
Good morning Cutting Edge Engineering Australia, greetings from Germany 🇩🇪!
Hey mate thanks for watching all the way over there!
Same! Part of my Friday morning routine 🙂
Once again an absolute masterclass. As the old saying goes, ‘when you want something done right, you may as well do it yourself’.
No drawings (that we saw), no fuss, just skill and experience.
More suspense with the insert threading and relief cuts than watching the movie Titanic! (Course we all knew what happened to the Titanic). Thanks Karen and Kurtis! 😊
You don't know how valuable your videos are for the young tool makers in my factory !! My place has 95% of the machines being cnc controlled , but these videos help them to understand ground level machines and that skill and understanding that needs to be acquired of machining!!
Good evening from Tokyo everyone. Karen’s.stunning photography work combined with Kurtis’s narration while producing two beautiful pieces of custom machined tools was absolutely mesmerizing! Congratulations!,
wow thanks for the fantastic comment, glad you enjoyed it!
The stress of watching you tap those holes!😬 I could feel the twist in the tap! Awesome job.
I've never heard Homeless sound so satisfied as he did while enjoying his treat.
Sitting here watching the taps just twist ever so slightly waiting for it to break, but of course Curtis had it under control as usual. Great Job you two. Thank you.
Holy battle ships Batman !!, I see your up to your usual Aircraft Carrier disassembly tool manufacturing Karl. You’ve SERIOUSLY out done yourself with these beautiful beasts!! 😍🥰🤪 Karen, the amazing camera work and editing in the latest videos has been top notch 👍🏻 really impressive stuff 😊
When you said you tended to be heavy handed, you reminded me of my neighbour, Jim. I regularly have to tell him to be more gentle in whatever he's doing that needs a "finer touch". He keeps telling me "gentle" is his middle name. In his case, he may spell/use it as "jentil" but it is definitely not "gentle". But he's getting better - taken me over 17 years - but he is not there yet. Retired mechanic/machinist.
Молодец Кёртис. Уже несколько лет наблюдаю за вашей деятельностью. Я никогда не был связан с подобными работами, но мне очень нравится насколько ответственно и профессионально ты подходишь к своей работе. Очень рад что ты нашёл для себя подобный род деятельности и обеспечен работой на многие годы. Желаю тебе и дальше совершенствовать свой труд и получать за это достойную плату. Всего вам доброго.
I am a little heavy handed!!!🤣🤣🤣 priceless!
Takes me back to my CNC machining days 😊
These days I’m driving trucks As it’s way less stressful 😂
I hated that feeling of is it going to snap when using tiny taps and drill bits 😅
Nice job Curtis, ..a suggestion, continue the tapping drill hole right the way through the holder ;- it makes removing broken insert screws so much easier, (you can drill them out for the ''back'' and get a perfect centre on the screw) bit thanks to Karen and big pat for Homey.
Curtis, I’ve said it before but I must say it again. Your editing is perfection from my perspective. I get the process that you’re describing without all of the tedious time consuming repetition. And I appreciate that.
Great job starting a 3.5 mil tap by spinning it with the machine chuck. That and clearing the hand tap after just a few rotations are probably the two most effective techniques to not snapping those taps off.
I can’t even remember how very many taps I broke when I first started working in the factory for Modula USA in Lewiston, Maine.
12.39 Uuuuuh, what a surface finish! Jewelry grade!
delicious!
Love your shopmade tools. Quick, easy, efficent.
Glad you like them!
The tooling you create is amazing. If you need something and don't have it, just make one. I look forward to your video every Friday.
Half an hour of pure GOLD!
Shop made tooling separates the standard machinist from the truly gifted machining masters. Elegant and absolutely eats chrome bar for breaky, and spits chips for tea.
Thanks again for a masterclass in machining.
-Castor
Really? Kurtis is a master, but even as a hobbyist I'll occasionally make something to do a job or solve a problem. It's so common XKCD No. 1205 is a chart of if it's worth the time or not. I'm not linking it because UA-cam's spam filter is overzealous.
I must have been a tool & die maker in a previous life. Cause these shop made tool vids are my favorite, by far. 😎
Always satisfying to see raw material turn into something nice & useful 😍
Curtis, you’re very skilled. Determining the different ways you could get the job done comes from experience I see. Karen does a great job setting up shots. Also, clean-up around the shop must be quite the job in itself.
When tapping with small taps, I find that Tap Magic cutting fluid works much better than oil. Great videos! Keep up the good work.
Love the shop made tool videos!
We know a lot of viewers enjoy these types of vids so hoping to do a few more in 2024!
Great video as always, frankly filming, producing, editing, and uploading a video of such consistently high quality almost every week is quite a feat in its own right. That fact that on top of that, you manage to take jobs that could all look more of less the same and through careful consideration and production, emphasise different areas so that each video can teach something new or different in a format that is highly relatable with just the right about of humour really separates this channel from its peers. Overall, this is THE heavy machining channel to rule all of UA-cam, all others should be measured by the standard this channel sets.
Hey mate! Wow, your comment has made our day. Thanks so much for taking the time to write such a thoughtful and encouraging message. It means a lot to know that you appreciate the effort we put into creating these videos. We definitely push ourselves to find new ways to approach similar topics and keep things interesting, and it's awesome to hear that it resonates with our viewers. Cheers!
Awesome work. I think I even saw a slight smile there!
Drilling the hole and dropping that insert in was satisfying!
As an _"Amateur Tapper"_ I could really relate to the tension going on there. The tap-holder looked just like mine, so I feel empathy with heavy duty engineering 😊
Oops, thanks for reminding me of the weekend! nice relaxed fridays video. A nice weekend to everyone! Greetings from the North Sea!
This is exactly why i love YT channels like this one.
You know the problem and what you need to fix it, the tool is not there to by, so you just make your own tool to help you speed up work now and in the future.
I love watching video's of craftsman making there own tools.
Strength in length and depth, slick stuff team CEE!
"Okay boys and girls, be sure to tune next week for Kurtis's word of the day!" 🤣 Great video, and cool tool! btw--how long did that chew/treat last? He usually "inhales" them in mere moments, but this looked to be a little tougher-chewier. Watching you guys laugh at each other during the outtakes is priceless.
2am NYC time like clockwork! 😆
1:50 .. I love the plasma cut blanks!!
A shop tool specifically for my favorite buttons!?! I’m here for it!
*Cutting Edge Engineering Australia* Bravo well done, thank-you for taking the time to bring us along. GOD Bless.
LOL "i am heavy-handed" freakinglove you, the misses and the one who keeps you safe - the all important safety officer
22:30 I'm a 75 yo Canadian man, mostly now retired, but I still design & manufacture, in my tiny home basement office & workshop, electronic instruments for the geophysics community. My favourite metric tap is M3x0.5, followed closely by #4-40 Imperial. I occasionally tap #2-56 Imperial, which frightens me! All in primarily small~ish non-magnetic die-cast aluminum boxes which cut much like cast iron. The largest tap I use [rarely] is 1/4-20 Imperial. I have no tools to work with any larger taps. We seem to be working at opposite ends of the drill & tap spectrum. LOL Many thanks for your videos!
Love a shop-made tool. That tool is a real productivity gain.
As usual I am blown away by your skill level on so many levels Curtis. And Karen's videography are sublime. Awesome team. Thanks for sharing.
But an ongoing problem; but an ongoing problem; but an ongoing problem; but an ongoing problem; but an ongoing problem Kurtis has is WORDS!!! 🤣🤣🤣. Great job Karen and Kurtis and of course Homie 🫡🫡🫡
LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER!
Incredibly rigid w/ zero chatter. Nothing like knowing your tooling. Awesome work Curtis.
Love the videoss where you make tools, great editing and Homeless and the birds make it special.
Thanks to all of you in the CEE team! 👍💪✌
Yay! Homey right off the bat! Cheers Curtis.
You got a custom endmill to create your custom tool holders 😲
You can't get more specialised than that!
If he made his own endmills, it would be even better! There is another youtuber who does that, but he runs a huge 5 axis Mazak mill and does oil drilling parts from exotic metals. Peter is his name, and the channel is edge precision www.youtube.com/@EdgePrecision/videos
The best part of the video what watching this video was Kurtis using tools smaller than usual, ie - drill and taps. I could hear the both of you exhale after the hole and tap was final. I would have even thought that something that small even intimidated Kurtis a little. 😁 It's nice when you can make your own tools to save money on the rising prices of things these days. Another awesome job to Karen for the hard work and dedication to these videos each week, and to the work that Kurtis does in the shop. You both are a master at your crafts! Cheers from Florida
Shop made tool-making is my favourite, makes a change from all the usual machining and welding. You both have a lot of fun making these videos, that makes it even more special.
The whole fine tapping of the insert hole!😁👍❤️🇨🇦
Интересно смотреть на работу рукастого парня. Да ещё так инструментально вооруженного.
Thanks Kurtis,Karen, Homie and the birds . Great work and video guys😊
Another great job Karen and Kurtis. Have a wonderful weekend. WOOF to Homie and strange tropical noises to the Butcher bird security detail.
I love that you had to order 3.5mm taps because that's miniscule in your shop.
Working on much smaller things, I feel 3.5mm is a nice agreeable size in most materials, and I get nervous when I'm tapping M1.4 holes for tiny brushless motor. A failed part for me just costs time, and not dirty great slabs of bisalloy.
Lovely work, and I look forward to seeing the enormous Shenyang lathe in action soon.
This is that age old line of "You call that a tool holder...THIS is a tool holder!" :)
You're spot on with your comment about being used to working on larger workpieces. It is far easier to adapt to changing up to large than it is from going large to small work. Another great work/time-saving piece you made there. Machining with the tools cranked right up to the job is asking for trouble and the inevitable will occur at some point. Boom! We've all been there.- no wiggle room.
It's 4 am in Michigan. I always look forward Friday to see what CEE is up to. Great content!
Why doesn't Curtis write Santa Clause? because he makes his own toys! 😄
That tool should make life much better ! Thanks for sharing !
Great job on the button tool holders Curtis, they’ll save a lot of time on the jobs. Thanks for the videos. Have a good one 👍🇦🇺
As much as I like seeing the big machinery being repaired, I loved this brief return to some basic machining as I always learn something. I also really appreciate you explaining why you set things up in a particular or why you’re using a certain cutter. Thanks heaps, Stuart. Canberra.
Sitting on the edge of my seat during that TAP. It's like watching a "Thriller Movie"
A real thriller with twists and turns! 😆 And thanks for sticking with fly cutter and its higher ASMR factor ☺
Beautiful work. Homey deserves all his treats for having trained you so well.😀
Work up in the middle of the night and get the chance to watch your video about four hours earlier. Love the videos and after binge watching your older videos I can say that you guys have improved to an apex level.