Terry Stop Flop! 😳 Copper Beats Up Autistic Kid Playing in Park & His Immunity Gets Busted! Bodycam!
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- 2020.03.02
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2020.03.02
US Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
Written Decision: law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/19-15234/19-15234-2020-03-26.html
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i rememeber this case when it happened...it took me 3 seconds on the video to say this was an autistic kid not a druggie lolol this cop was soooooooo dummmmmmbbb
I think this lawyer's inability to understand basic questions and repeatedly saying the same thing over & over is reasonable suspicion that he is on drugs... he should be handcuffed thrown on the ground and arrested. The "drug expert" can't tell the difference between a 14-year-old autistic kid and a drug abuser?
This behaviour of the state lawyer brings lawyers reputation into question.
He is trying to defend the indefensible in the most pathetic matter.
You tube is awash with videos of police violating people rights in the most horrendously violent fashion.
The police authorities are out of control, and this behaviour goes on because the courts let them get away with it, which makes them complicit in this unlawfulness.
Obviously the arresting policeman is not fit to deal with the public in any way, and should be prosecuted and given a custodial sentence. And any member of the police trying to cover for him should be dismissed.
Too a hammer, everything looks like a nail,
Too a drug recognition officer, everything looks like drug abuse
i can not believe we are debating a police officer taking down an autistic child is justifiable or not. Any reasonable human being would agree this is wrong. This officer is unfit for duty.
Sadly this cop had "Training" on drug recognition, and the law is not Any reasonable human being, it is Another reasonable cop in the same circumstances. This is why it NEEDS to be given to a jury of laymen and women to make the determination as to whether the cop overstepped his bounds by attacking the boy, remember playing with a string in a public place is NOT an illegal activity.
A grand jury found him not liable for doing this too. Never trust cops.
Look at how gentle the judges are towards the cop's lawyer. Even they are afraid of getting their behinds whooped by the crooked cop.
No, we are not debating that. We are debating wether he was legally right to stop and ID this kid under Terry vs Ohio. Unfortunately for this cop he got the worst lawyer there is who does not know how Terry vs Ohio works and does not now wat RAS is.
*Edit Im not even an American citizen and yet I find the concept of qualified immunity extreme gross
A jury later decided the cop did nothing wrong.
Qualified immunity was not designed to protect a cop from stupidity.!
It was designed to protect cops when they intentionally bully or injure someone.
Qualified immunity should be abolished.
Qualified immunity was invented by the courts for that very reason. It’s a bullshit unconstitutional idea the courts came up with. It’s there so cops can violate your rights.
Leave Qualified immunity to people who need it and never use it, like doctors etc.. this is getting ridiculous when even judges are debating when it's clear as day what he did wasn't right at all and just thug behaviour.
Thats their excuse every single time. I didn't know I was violating your rights.
Abusing an autistic kid in the park? Pathetic.
This is a daily occurrence.
to be fair...he had an un registered string
Thank the conservatives for this mindset. They are all fascists.
So the attorney wanted to clarify that the cop was an expert in knowing whether or not someone was on drugs, then right after that, he brings up that his client mistook the autistic kid for someone that was high on drugs...just wow..sounds like a bunch of bs
"Drug Experts" are the same scam as drug sniffer police dog, they are simply an excuse to do illegal searches. Thank goodness for body cams. We are starting to see more and more departments being called out.
The cop was a self described "expert" he had no certification and thus for all we know had not training at all.
Yup!
Sounds like BS can smell it from here
Was he a drug recognition expert before this incident,or he became one after as part of his defense?
I would rule that the officer is guilty of felony child abuse.
And who decides that an action is not NORMAL... Not normal by who's standards. I have a relative who pulls his ear lobe when he's thinking and a cousin who does drum beats with his fingers along with this homework when deciding on an answer..not normal or just his way to think!?! How does that cop get to be the one who defines "normal" outrageous!!!
@@shirleyfisher8313this behavior by cops will only stop when families take the eye for an eye stand, because the courts have abandoned the American citizens.
@@shirleyfisher8313 Clearly not an expert in anything if he thinks an autistic child is doing drugs in front of his care giver, and when presented with facts he ignores them and carries on regardless
@@shirleyfisher8313another one of their copspeak wall of twisted ideas they keep constantly throwing at us and finding the BS that sticks. Brainwashing.
@@shirleyfisher8313my brother was in the nut hatch several decades ago and at his habeas corpus hearing the states counsel asked him if his behavior was normal and my brother answered “do you know how many different cultures live in California”. He was released after the hearing. The police are just a bunch of gang members these days.
Boy's Caregiver: He's autistic.
Officer: No, you're wrong. He's on drugs. I'm a drug recognition expert.
I could never be a cop. I'm not stupid enough.
That is probably true. They screen out people who are too bright as they are less likely to to be the thugs and attack dogs that defines the police and more likely to question the unlawful/immoral orders that define the police.
And to be a cop you have to be a bald faced liar.
You can be intelligent.....you just have to be willfully ignorant.
Absolutely, however being stupid is not enough you have to also be an entitled narcissistic psychopath. Most stupid people have common sense.
Agreed did some ride alongs when I got out of the Army, small town in Ga. Totally b.s and the only law that I considered after that was as an attorney uhm also complete B.S! 😮
What really pisses me off is that a jury found in favor of the cop at trial last year! I have a 23 year old son with autism and incidents like this scare me to no end. But, to have a jury say this kind of behavior from a cop is OK. Well, that fills me with rage!!! America has become a compassionless country.
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Is that true??
Was it a Bkack kid, and what was the make up of the jury?
That tells you exactly why this kind of behavior by cops continues to happen on a daily basis.
@@albertstephen2426 No he was a skinny white kid.
Of course it has when people are screeching at a preacher for basing a sermon on the sermon on the mount and calling him woke and further asserting that Jesus wouldn’t give that sermon today then you’ve got to think that among some parts of American society the moral compass has been entirely lost
ABOLISH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY!!!!
And reverse the patriot act.
Join AAQI Americans Against Qualified Immunity
I agree.
AAQI.ORG and1.) Union bust these cops
2.) cops carry your own personal insurance
3.) Civil awards paid from police pension funds
4.) End QI for all gov. employees
5.) Track publicly all officers personal records
6.) Bi-annual psychological testing for all officers
@@jaxdragon1723 I agree 💯
USA policing = danger..a kid playing with a string in the park .. shameful
Must have been a blck child.
It shows exactly how terrible USA policing has gone, that a cop does this to a teenager. And second that the police try protecting the officers behaviour.
@@chrisoakey9841 Cops ruled officer conduct was fine, then in court, ASTOUNDINGLY, a jury agreed and convicted this insane psychopath officer of nothing. So many cases where the officer's conduct seems obviously egregious and the jury walks him anyway, a la Rodney King. The Kansas swatting shooting, the Vegas air rifle guy, A case in CA where the cop pointed a gun at a PI's head for no reason at all and the cops searched his car illegally, recording themselves laughing that they wished they could shoot the investigator, oh and the Fullerton cops who beat that homeless kid to death and bragged about it. Jury walked them all. Where do they get these juries.... I don't know...
@@georgelugenalt200It shows how difficult it is to overturn a precedent in the current US legal system. There is no such thing as Qualified Immunity in law yet based on precedent it’s now the go-to defence anytime an officer if accused of almost any wrongdoing. I think many of these jury’s don’t agree with what the officers have done but are given instructions of law that tie their hands. I’m sure some jury’s just back the blue but I don’t think that’s the norm. We need to overturn qualified immunity and at the very least it should be reserved for only the most extreme circumstances, I believe officers who go into harms way do deserve a certain level of protection but they need to justify their behaviour and if there’s injury then the Agency should be culpable civilly even if the officer avoids criminal consequences. It’s laughable to me when an innocent person is killed/injured & the officer is given qualified immunity and even though everyone agrees the injury/death was wrong that automatically means the injured isn’t entitled to seek civil redress. It’s ridiculous
@@trentclark77 Agreed. IMO, juries need to nullify and stop giving implied consent to these awful actions by LE. If the judges want to void the verdicts that is up to them, judges are elected and can be replaced. And that is another thing that needs to happen. Stop re-electing Police chiefs and sheriffs, and judges. They can sit at home and comment on youtube like we are doing now..
Abolish qualified immunity, Abolish judicial immunity...
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Add term limits.
It is amazing how many right-wingers.. do constantly declare the government has too much power.. fake police should be above the law.
Presidents aren't above the law but Joe Bob who couldn't even get a factory job it's told he is above the law and given a gun
Let's not forget that without Terry vs. Ohio, this police contact wouldn't have even happened.
You cannot.
In the very few places where there is no judicial immunity the whole legal system is in complete obedience to the government
Unjustified stop with unjustified violence against a child.
The fact that the 14 year old wasn’t on Drugs, Is proof that the officer was Wrong. He failed as a so called expert, and Definitely should not be an Officer.
America is not a free country, abolish qualified immunity
maybe quit using portraits of slavers as US National currency first.
Abolishing qualified immunity would make it near impossible for police to do their job however there should be the limits to this qualified immunity. And just what the hell does race have to do with this particular case Wadestanton
@@thelonerick You are factually incorrect. If you think that cops need qualified immunity to do their jobs, then you are a bootlicking slave.
There are already states that have banned it, and 11 more states are putting it up for a vote this year.
QI is unconstitutional.
@@wadestanton🤡
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Mistake or not, the officer should be fired, charged, arrested and convicted then sent to prison for felony child abuse for 60 years.
They are the protected class and they will not be brought to justice because they work for the courts. Courts are big money makers. We need to get out of the cognitive dissonance that the courts administer justice. They do not. All they do is volley case law back and forth until one side "wins" the argument with better presentation of case law. But nothing that comes out of the courts changes the behavior of the police on the street. Whoever tries to challenge the money making systems finds themselves at war with their government. And we have seen the results of that.
The cop and trump could be cell mates.
Sure, let’s just do that and ignore that the city certified him as a drug recognition officer, while pathetically being uninformed about autism. This isn’t just on him. The fact that the city found this consistent with his training and that being autistic is reasonable grounds for suspicion is much more alarming.
And personally sued!
@@Matty272they are trained to be at war with everybody.
Even more disgusting is a jury found the pos not guilty.
AND THIS POS COP WILL CONTINUE TO REPEAT THIS CRIMINAL COMMUNIST SOCIOPATHIC BEHAVIOR
that's terrible
There all cops family members
Counsel is saying any disabled person can be attacked for possible drug use. Smdh
Worse still the jury let the cop off, they sided with the idea that cops are free to tackle, harress and injury peole with disabilities if the cops come up with whatevr flimsy excuse they want to make.
@munchmandrifta That's called "Humanity Immunity".
Drug recognition expert, according to his department, can't tell the difference between a kid exhibiting autistic-type behaviors vs actual drug use behavior? Seems the bar to be an "expert" in a police department are lower than what a basic high school student would be able to recognize. What a joke these departments have become and the fact that they do set the bar for themselves so low is a serious breach of the public trust. They are incompetent, corrupt, or both.
So the officer could tell that this person was on drugs but couldn’t tell that he was kid. He should have just talked to the kid.
@mnn1265 Right! Drug recognition expert my 🤬. Now, I'm no "expert" and I've seen quite a few drug users in my lifetime, but I have yet to see one playing with a piece of string in a park.
@@DarkMatter-no3td Agreed, it borders on the absurd that they even make such claims with a straight face.
Well said
There’s no such thing as a “drug recognition expert”. It’s all bullshit.
If the officer didn’t see a crime, he should’ve stayed away from the child and let the child play.
They're not actually looking for crimes...
@@DebbieOnTheSpotnailed it. The dad wants are usually looking for someone to harass and then inventing a crime
Haha you think that’s how policing works?
Easy Pray that’s what police see now a days ….Easy Pray!
@@brkbtjunkiepolice are not looking for a crime!! They are looking to make you a criminal!
If that idiot cop is considered an expert, he has obviously failed his training.
Qualified immunity is legalized fascism.
Any Lawyer that takes a case to save QI over a Child with a disibility already shows his vast vacant ethical morality
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We should all report him to the bar association for malpractice
The police union has lawyers on retainer that they use over and over.
If these lawyers want a steady income they have to take their cases.
Using portraits of slavers as US National currency shows vast vacant ethical morality.
@@wadestantonkeep looking for that needle in the haystack
When you give the police nothing but hammers, everyone looks like a nail. I’m so glad the Judges shut this down so immediately. This was completely UNREASONABLE. There was no complaint in the first place. This officer is incompetent, and it got worse from there. He literally beat up a KNOWN autistic kid NOT suspected of ANY crime!! This officer was NOT reasonable as he had no REASONABLE suspicion.
The cop is OBVIOUSLY NOT A EXPERT. He is a hammer that sees all people as nails
WOW what can I say about this Cop to describe how outrageous this is. This War on drugs has given too much power to the Police.
The judges seemed actually offended by the cops lawyer trying to misrepresent Terry lol. Repeating "give me a paragraph" over and over.
I'm not a big fan of most judges, but these guys did an excellent job getting the facts straight. I commend them on doing the right thing instead of protecting the cops. Which is way too often the case.
@@user-ub8yp5rq4w In the end it meant nothing because a jury ruled in favor of this scum cop last year.
Cops always misrepresent Terry. The ruling was a limit on what cops would do. Cops interpret that as Terry saying they can do whatever the hell they want by saying the magic word "suspicious".
I was in a similar situation with my Autistic son. We were approached in a park and when I said he has Autism, the cop said “He looks all right to me” 🤦🏻 HE REALLY SAID THAT! ❌
Most cops are idiots
They are experts on everything except the law they are supposed to enforce
You should have asked him what were the signs?
@@Cheepchipsable I was speechless.. all I could say was that not all disabilities are visible. The more he watched he knew he was wrong. 🤦🏻 No apologies. 🤡
Then ask the question ( wich i have done) What does ADHD look like What does autism look like. What does mental health issues look like? They leave usualy after that.
What we need to do is abolish all qualified immunity and judicial immunity
There was no crime, nor suspicion of a crime to begin with. Just because this cop is the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the blind, he still had no RAS to even approach the kid. Qualified immunity is the biggest obstacle in reforming police behaviour.
The officer had a hunch (call it a ‘belief’, piqued his interest, tingled his super-spidey-sense, etc…). And a hunch is *explicitly* identified as NOT a reason to initiate a Terry stop.
He believed, that in itself is an illusion not fact
So a cop can stop any driver at any time all he has to say is I think that guy has been drinking. You could stop ANY vehicle he wants. Police state.
Well that is what the seat belt law was for who eliminate all of the above and what you said. It was never about safety
@@Caucasian187 - did you even watch the proceedings? It wasn’t about drunk driving, a car being pulled, or anything to do with ‘a cop pulling over a driver’… 🙄
@@Caucasian187I remember when a State Trooper testified that his training taught him that he could stop any driver at any time even if no traffic violation had occurred .
Scary that an autistic teenager was attacked by shameful
Shameful cops . Horrible outcome. Incompetent cop. Shame on the city and. Prosecutor.
Ditto, take care. ❤🎉 😢 😮 😢.
I'm surprised & shocked you when ANY case gets PAST Crts of appeals across the US, as they consistently side WITH LE!
BUT, what's even MORE shameful & pathetic is that a jury of Americans hear this case & acquit him as they have done in many OTHER disgusting similar cases!!!
The city basically said “yeah, we don’t give a fuck about autistic people”.
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@@So-U-Say... Do you even understand what you are watching?
This slimy lawyer is trying to use any "excuse" to justify a cop violating a citizen's rights. This clown is trying to chastise the judges.
The lawyer did his job and he did it well, he did just what a lawyer should do and presented the best defense he could for his client. If the jury is a bunch of brain dead morons it's not the lawyers fault. The lawyer probably went home shaking his head and wondering where they found so many idiots to put on a jury.
Let’s stop police immunity and lesser charges for those that are charged with knowing the law! Seems the law system needs reform along with policing.
30 seconds in and i'll tell you what officers do to investigate crime, they ask for i.d. That's it !, that's the full extent of their investigative skills, after that they're pretty much stumped !
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Well said
Cops aren't the brightest bulbs on the string....
@@mnn1265they think they have a very dangerous job, so no, they aren't bright at all.
If it comes back as no warrants, it means they have to investigate further, until they uncover the criminal activity that no other cop was yet found. So they just throw everything until they think something might be sticking. 🙄
even if drug use, what gives the right for a cop to beat up a kid?!
Or why assume there is criminal action going (twirling a string) on even if "suspected" of drug use. Why is drug use with NO crime committed, a crime in the first place?
Yea the only thing they should be doing if the kid waa doing drug is help getting treatment. Kids do not need a record for a mental illiness. The problem is to many kids need mental health help and they are not getting it, because the parent cannot afford it or get the kid to therapy But parent need to be better at teaching children better in how to behave. It not only benefit society but the kid also. No one like someone who causes trouble all the time.
Q.I.
What real gets me mad is that we the taxpayers are paying for this criminal cop's attorney.
Let's put this in plain language... There was an assault on a person at risk by a government official. If this was any other citizen the assailant would be straight to felony prosection.
You put years of litigation into a paragraph, excellent
Imagine being the lawyer for the officer in this case, having to argue this absolute nonsense.
His whole evidence is that the "drug expert" was wrong about drugs.
@@seanstirling2685 He wasn't even an expert. He never had any formal training to properly detect drug use. He was going strictly on his experience from way too much time on the street. These thugs spend so much time dealing with the dregs of society that they become tainted, and they suspect everybody of being a criminal. When it gets to this point, they should be forced into retirement. It's clear that this fool has been out on the streets too long. It won't be the same amount of time for every officer, some will become tainted after just a few years, and some will last for decades before it happens to them. Still, some will never experience that negativity toward the public. That is why Qualified Immunity should be erased from the books. The point at which a cop becomes so tainted that he or she sees a 14-year-old autistic boy as a criminal, is different in every cop, therefore we the people should NOT be giving them a green light to abuse innocent citizens under the guise that the officer believed a crime was afoot without any evidence to suggest it.
@@user-ub8yp5rq4w Yep. They are trash.
Cop lawyer: "This cop is a Hero! He just made a little mistake. Anyway that autistic kid should have just obeyed the cop's Supreme Authority!"
That's when you should realize your job is part of the problem.
It just goes to show you that cops ALWAYS consider EVERYONE that does not have a badge is automatically a criminal.
It doesn’t matter what age that individual is, it only matters what the COP feels.
If I, as an adult, was playing with a string, that is all it would take for a cop to make some sort of decision that whoever is playing with a string is obviously some sort of CRIMINAL.
Everyone is the enemy.
Exactly.
Agree 100%.
Alls it takes for an officer to shoot you & evade consequences is their stating "I believed he was going for his gun".
After the 9th circuit clearly stated that this police officer was in the wrong and was thus denied qualified immunity, a jury still found in the favor of the cop???? Absolutely disgusting.
Many people turn a blind eye to bad cops and pretend cops are holier than thou. Jury was probably duped into believing “well it was an honest mistake, what if he did have drugs though??”
There was no mistake, the officer saw what he wanted and did what he wanted because this alleged expert expects to get away with crimes when he is clearly very wrong.
the lawyer was grasping at the air to defend injustice
Kind of his job to give the best defence.
Can't believe the jury found the cop innocent so ridiculous, he was told that the boy was autistic and still attacked him
It’s not hard to believe when this country is full of obedient bootlickers.
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Who found him innocent? This is an appeal by the cop of the civil Court removing his qualified immunity. This has nothing to do with criminal charges. Other than generally if you are convicted of a crime it is almost impossible to sue
@@CKM-gf3ikthat’s actually disgusting.
@CKM-gf3ik Take him to federal court he violated the American disabilities act, civil rights, constitutional rights, false detainment, assault and battery, human rights violations, child abuse, unbecoming of an officer, offical misconduct, abuse of power while on official duty. Why don't prosecutor's and judge throw the book at them like they do the general public when they should be more accountable when you're supposed to enforce the law not make your own judgment as if your judge, jury or executor.
When the officer was informed by a person, he informed him that the teen has autism. The officer should have stopped all actions. What this police department needs is training concerning in all disabilities.
The problem is not training, since i was in high school i heard this dog whistles of more training and know that i am 47 years old i refuse to accept training as a excuse anymore. The officer is suppose to be an expert, so how is it he cant tell the difference between a drug user and a autistic child. The problem is they have to much power and to much protections IE: Qualified immunity along with tax payers paying for their wrongful and many times illegal actions if it came out of their pension fund i but you they would think before they act like we all have to.
That cop, like so many others, looks at every single person in their field of vision every second of their day as a criminal waiting to happen.
A 14 year old, and playing with a piece of string.
It’s so OBVIOUS that even a string is a totally deadly weapon, according to some COPS!
This yo-yo sounds so stupid trying to defend a cop that went way beyond any legal allowable actions.
If it was one of my stepchildren, and I was present, the cop would be in a much different trial.
Speaking of yo-yos... can I play with a yo-yo in a public park? I mean, it IS repetitively playing with a string, after all....
@@fourgottenI came to say the exact thing. I don’t know many drug using Yo-yoers.
What a bunch of BS
"Officer Safety!! Officer Safety!!"
@@climber950 Don't get me wrong, I'd be high as hell, bro... 🤣😂🤣 /jk
“ *In 1967, the United States Supreme Court introduced qualified immunity in Pierson v. Ray to protect police officers from financial liability after they arrested 15 clergy members for breaching the peace after they attempted to use a segregated waiting room at a bus station* .”
Is qualified immunity based on the constitution?
“ *Qualified immunity is not the result of a law passed by Congress, nor is it written in the Constitution. It is instead a legal doctrine refined by the U.S. Supreme Court. First outlined in 1967, it has since been greatly expanded* .”
Did you know that the twice impeached convicted felon ex-president #45 is petitioning his butties at the supreme court for TOTAL presidential immunity? He wants to be able to send seal team 6 after his political opponents and that is what he said in the petition. Republicans is what they are. Remember that.
THIS ISSUE MUST BE ADDRESSED...JUST LIKE' NOT INDICTING' A SITTING PRESIDENT IS NOT LAW EITHER
So that's where this QI mess started - to protect cops from a civil suit after they committed an obviously illegal arrest of black people sitting in the White waiting room. A Rosa Parks type event.
I'm 73, and I recall Segregation in public and private facilities quite well. The department store had two drinking fountains, one white porcelain, one black porcelain. For some reason, the (black) cleaning staff kept that shining black fountain clean as can be 24/7 - It was such a grand sight that as a white teen I had to drink from it to see if it tasted different, and of course it was the same city water.
Another store had a restaurant, wirh a sign "Colored Served At Lunch Counter Only". It was seen as degrading for a white waitress to take a food order from 'colored' and deliver their food, but by segregating 'colored' to the Lunch Counter it gave Whites their 'right' to be segregated from the 'colored.'
Of course all the schools were segregated, only starting integration in my high school 1967-68 with six brave black kids - who went everywhere in a block, probably afraid of racism, though other than the fact of segregation I saw no overt racism during that year.
And yes, in 1967 the 'colored' were still expected to move to the back of the bus, despite often being elderly and infirm females going to cleaning jobs.
You would think that by 1988 racism in city government at least would have changed, but there was only one road from white Wichita Falls into the northeast black neighborhoods, and it crossed sixteen railroad lines. A couple of years later the city finally routed a nice bypass overhead to allow free access without waiting on or dodging trains.
Today in 2024 schools are being re-segregated by voucher programs in which schools are more free than one might expect to find reasons to exclude the poor, the people of color. My small county of 35,500, with a school population of only 8K, managed to split into four different school districts when integration arrived; they were trying to zone out the blacks. Two of the six barely have over a thousand students, but of course have a full admin staff and a fancy football stadium. If one were not racist, the county would have one district to save taxpaying homeowners from duplicating staff and facility expenses.
Not only is Qualified Immunity not the result of any law, it is in direct Contradiction of both laws predating it (such as the "Under Color of Law" statute), and passed after its invention (Such as a similar, civil statute, that is explicitly focused on cases that qualified immunity is used to deflect from), as well as US obligations under international treaties on Human Rights (as has been repeatedly flagged by the UN).
@@ammoalamo6485 are at comment. We are the same age and appreciate how well you explain the segregation issue. The high school I went to an offered chance to do a student exchange from our 99% white suburban school, to a city high school that was probably 75% “colored”. At the time I worked as a volunteer in the emergency department of a hospital in that neighborhood and would take 3 buses to arrive at the hospital. In summer I would often leave the hospital and walk well over a mile, thru the neighborhood that 3 years previous had been the sight of riots. (This would avoid one bus transfer and give me a chance to unwind from what I had witnessed during the 8 hours I had been in the ER.) I had neglected to mention to my parents that I would do that walk, which, when somehow they discovered I had been doing that found them to be very upset. I never felt frightened for taking this walk, the majority of patients seen in the ER were from this area and certainly gave me a better understanding of how dramatically different my home and suburban community was to the city environment. Going into their high school was a huge shock, as the students did not have the essentials we had in our school. Their high school experience was absolutely different than mine. To this day I don’t understand why this nation has such an issue with the various ethnicities that reside in our Republic. I did become a nurse, predominantly pediatrics was the area I worked in. Children are color blind. Hate is learned, toward color of skin, religion, etc. I’ve worked with medical staff from all over the world and find many are much better trained than those who have graduated from some very elite schools in this country. That racism exists today, to the extreme it does, is very disheartening. We have learned nothing from our history and are definitely repeating it. This is very sad. In your community it sounds like the school board needs to be completely purged. What I’ve found in our school district, the voting schedule does not get publicized as much as regular voting, being held at a different time of year as well. There ends up being only 1500 +/- voters turning out for a community the same size as yours. Those votes make the decisions of not only who is on the board, but also the budget and proposals. I know I find this very frustrating, as every budget approval raises our taxes and our students are exposed to things, that back in our day would have been considered pornography. At least we have just one high school!
I'd like to see ANY examples of the act of repeatedly waving a piece of string in the air as a recognised part of drug use.
The cop is an idiot. Another one. How do so many people of questionable judgement capability become cops?
This is what happens when you take people who graduated in the bottom half of their high school graduating class, train them for 2 months, then give them a badge and a weapon.
The fact that discord even exist to hold a hearing to determine if a 14-year-old boy was autism should get some kind of justice for being assaulted is ridiculous. Need to do away with the immunity, but there’s a bottomless pit called the taxpayers let this go on
This isn’t just on the officer. The city certified him as a drug recognition “expert”.
No, it's to determine if the officer was justified in his response. This affects future cases once precedent has been set. It makes it easier to prosecute cases against police in the future.
Do at least get a basic understanding of now the law works.
Qualified Immunity produces all of these horrible results from lazy incompetent officers.
What cop on the force more than 6 months hasn't come across neurodivergent citizens totally unrelated to drug abuse?
These officers are assured by their Union Bosses, by their organization Management, and by their pals in the DA's office that they will never be held accountable.
Qualified immunity violates 42:1983. The supremacy of law is that statute overcomes common law. So once 1983 was signed into law qualified immunity should have disappeared. And courts show their contempt for the other parts of government to ignore law for precedent.
@@chrisoakey9841 42 USC 1983 was signed into law by Ulysses S. Grant in 1873. Qualified Immunity was pulled out of the Supreme Court's ass in 1968 and should be overturned for what it is, an unconstitutional infringement on the legislative powers of the Congress of the US and that body's obligation to uphold the Constitution and the rights of citizens.
@@OneStepBeyondu Very well stated, and absolutely correct. The courts created QI to cover their own asses and those of DAs when they would screw up a case and put innocent people in jail. The fact that it has spread down to law enforcement is a travesty. Especially now that the average cop has an IQ of 80. QI gives them carte blanche to violate a citizen's rights without facing any consequences.
@@OneStepBeyondu As i said, qualified immunity directly violates it.
sadly usa courts don't give a crap. but given current supreme court justices ruled f..k the 14th amendment sect 3 very recently, it would seem the bribe taking bastards like SCOTUS need to resign.
Oh ya? Then why did removing qualified immunity in colorado change NOTHING?
Dont forget the cop is a gang member and knew where the jury lives
Interesting point!
I love these judges, they are great at holding officers accountable !!!!!
They removed the QI barrier. The jury found no liability in the trial.
Obviously he's not an expert, he was wrong!
At the point the childs carer told the officer the boy was autistic this stop should have stopped as all reason had been nullified
child's care
This Nazi was way to trigger . To listen to any reasoning.
What do you do with people playing with yo's ??
Too bad the jury decided in favor of the officer. Wtf
Another sadistic US cop...
Name one indication of drug use that isn't also an indication of a medical condition. You can't.
Standing there and smoking a crack pipe, that's one.
A hunch is not "reasonable articulable suspicion" and that's the entire point. Cops are out of control acting on feelings and hunches rather than doing their jobs competently.
Probably right, and if so there can never be a basis for application of force and arrest without more.
There literally wasn’t even any indication. It was just a kid with a string.
Absolutely insane.
@@LawBoy219-wi5ws Literally any behavior could be indicative of drug use since people on drugs exhibit pretty much all kinds of behaviors since they are... you know, people.
It's never a good sign when the panel of judges immediately interrupts you before you can even explain anything 😂
Even they have limited patience for Bull💩.😡😡😡
The opinion of a "reasonable officer" means nothing because they think all people are criminals.
How could you possibly argue in favor of this officer’s actions? Not to mention using excessive force on an autistic teenager. Unbelievable. Absolutely disgusting!
Glad to see the judges here have a clue about constitutional rights and law, BUT I'm Sad to say that in February 2023 a jury of (idiot) people 'decided' that the cops did nothing wrong in this case! I am very angry about this, as I have an autistic son and live in Arizona.
Very Bazaar
@@HarGee636 Too many people think law enforcement officers are automatic heroes, always tell the truth, are here to protect and serve, and that ANYONE they tackle, handcuff, body slam, injure, etc. are guilty of something and should have 'just complied'.
Disgusting.
@@blakeb9964 Agree
Agree 110% . I hope and pray my kid never is abused by the PD like as I'd probably be arrested
I've seen the police body-cam video and it shows a stringy teen white boy, properly dressed and clean groomed who stops when policeman tells him to stop, policeman proceeds to aggressively ask him for ID, he replies no then calmly turns around to walk away at which point he is jumped. Makes your blood boil.
What is even worse is the jury freed the cop. That is truly disgusting.
I have an autistic grandson ,they have no idea the harm they have done to this child. Shame He will never be okay with this. They have damaged him for life!😢
These judges are restoring a modicum of my faith in the judicial system.
" *Fun Fact America use to rank 83 out of 100 in the human world freedom index but in 2020 that number dropped to 17 out of 100 below countries like Afghanistan and Iraq* "
Wonder why?
Even back in the 1980’s when l first travelled to the US, l was warned Not to trust an American Cop.
Sadly l believe the state of their policing has continued to decline.
Qualified immunity needs abolish all states
What happens when all cops are sued out of employment? What insurance company will want to take that on? Easy to say abolish all police immunity. This is what the slow gears of justice do. Many have been I screwed..like raked over the coals screwed. When there's no police, and instead the army? Militia? Did you think it through?
You don’t know what you are asking. I wish people researched things instead of getting information from social media. That would literally hurt every American
I'm blown away that a jury ultimately ruled in favor of the officer. Wow. This is why the US is turning into a police state.
The two excuses I see cops make in hundreds of videos: 1. They looked suspicious. 2. We got a call saying they looked suspicious
Damn now a child can't play with a string!
There's some kind of sick irony in this weasel lawyer for the gangster-in-blue endlessly repeating his 1 line defense ...He keeps repeating it again and again and again...Sounds like repetitive behavior so that's reasonable articulable suspicion of drug activity and the Court Coppers should sping into action and pile on and shout the usual commands to the lawyer "Stop resisting!" and with 3-4 cops on his back--500-700lbs smooshing him yelling give us your hands...Before they Taze and and drag him away...
After all a self appointed "drug expert" said repetitive activity is grounds to be tackled...
And that lawyer is doing just that.
When you start looking for criminals everywhere ; suddenly everywhere there are criminals . Treat people with basic respect.
"there's no clearly established law that says you cant beat up an autistic kid playing in the park" lmao.
Counselor, there is custodial and non custodial detainment . If the cop didn't tell him he was not free to leave then we have the right to assume it's non custodial.
Since when is it illegal to leave when you have no evidence of a crime
There wasn’t even a crime reported. Just because you have a call, does it mean there’s a crime.
I find it ironic that someone specifically trained in “drug recognition” makes a mistake that no reasonable person would make without training. Maybe the training is the issue.
This is the reason children don't go outdoors to play in their yard or a park. The law has no respect for anyone
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with why children don’t go outside.
This my worst nightmare..we're living with Autism..1 of my sons n he's non verbal, does alot of stimming ..cops always escalate..get rid of qualified immunity and liability insurance paid by the individual cop should be mandatory.. along with BWC'S that cannot be manipulated during the shifts..Always record the police..
Jim should just have said, 'I know I am supposed to provide a defense for the conduct of this officer, but if there is one, I can't find it.'
If ever there was a case of excessive force. False arrest, police abuse this is the one. There was no reason for the cop to approach this child let alone abuse him, give him a lifetime of fear. And remove all of the work done that allowed this chd to live in the real world without fear. Qualified immunity never should exist especially is this case. That officer must be fired and charged with assault. The lawyer for the attorney showed how corrupt they are by twisting the truth to fit acquittal. This entire case was unnecessary, cruel, unjust and will forever affect this child the rest of his life. I say this as an expert in autism by working with students such as this child for over 25 years.
"People in the United States are now in more danger from their law enforcement than they are from any foreign army.
THIS MUST STOP! It is up to us to stop it."
--Tomas
13:45 "during the middle of an investigative stop" the kid was never told he was in "the middle of an investigative stop" the kid doesn't know he's in the middle of an investigative stop, maybe the next time the cop should say "whoa, hold on there this is an investigative stop" BEFORE going hands on !
Ego takes over
“What kind of America do I live in if I have to ask permission to be free?” - SJVT
Not only should the officer face professional discipline for his actions, he should be charged for false arrest and booted off the police force, or any other police force he may try to gain employment with!
The officers claims to be an expert, in which case, he would KNOW what autistic actions look like, and would take that into account.
Claiming to be an expert makes his actions even worse than it would be for a non expert.
I like how this interview of the lawyer went.... His complaint had ZERO justification to accost/assault the 14 yr old.
The lawyers inner voice:
"Am I F-ing up right now? It's sure getting hot in here"
That cop should be fired and charged for assault shame on him .
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY has become PERMISSION for cops to be uneducated about the law, incompetent in their jobs, and abusive to the PUBLIC. CONSEQUENTLY cops are given license to BREAK THE LAW without repercussions for their actions. ......and taxpayers who HAVE NO SAY IN THE HIRING, FIRING, OR DISCIPLINE OF COPS ARE FORCED TO SUFFER THEIR CONSEQUENCES. REQUIRE COPS TO CARRY PERSONAL LIABILITY INSURANCE and DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR.
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@robynrin7107 does anyone think beyond the "right here right now"? When insurance companies no longer want insure..what ya got left? I agree..if a cop disables or kills someone, attach your name to his/her pension. Isn't that what the "Justice system" is for? To determine cases like this?
I am in shock that this even happened. I suppose even the worst offenders need lawyers, and that is what this is. Unreal.
I thought they hired a great lawyer for the defendant cop, but they were outclassed by the law and competent judges.
A jury decided in favor of Buckeye and former Buckeye police Officer David Grossman on Thursday in a federal trial that was to decide whether Grossman used excessive force when confronting Connor Leibel, a teenager with autism, six years ago.
Police Officers Handbook of what constitutes suspicious activity and therefore reasonable suspicion: talking, sitting, standing, breathing, eating, smoking, walking, looking, drinking, turning, running, swallowing, sneezing, thinking, yawning, chewing, lying, stretching, reaching, touching, grabbing, holding, reading, farting. If you do ANY of these things YOU ARE A SUSPECT!
Or.. playing with a piece of string..
All irrelevant until there is suspicion of a CRIME
OH?? , PERHAPS YOU MAY HAVE LEFT OUT THE FOLLOWING,
BURPING, FARTING, SNEEZING, HICCUPING,
CLAPPING YOUR HANDS , SINGING OUT LOUD, SITTING DOWN ON A BENCH READING A BOOK,
BLOWING BUBBLES FROM CHEWING GUM, AND DANCING
"IF" 14 year-old is NOT autistic, he's STILL a 14 year-old in the company of a guardian, isn't he?
How are the Cop's continued actions warranted?
What is the "I didn't know" argument?
As the judge explains, the law that prohibits detaining and using force against a person simply for exhibiting odd behavior is called the Constitution, a body of law with which police in Arizona seem to be completely unaware. Strip immunity & criminally charge the officer.
Thank God this officer was there to protect people from an autistic child playing with string. He needs to be fired and jailed for felony child abuse
Playing with a string and being autistic is against the law an officer might think that you're a drug addict this is crazy
Playing with a string? Give me a break
Police often are in the wrong . Power creates criminal behavior in these people
In the end that bully of a police officer was denied Qualified Immunity!