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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Office managed to muster enough energy to cross examine one witness. When that didn’t go so well, they threw in the towel and called it a day. They did spend more taxpayer money along the way.

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  • @bosoxno201
    @bosoxno201 Рік тому +78

    Keep exposing these scumbags bro. Stay the course, you have my full support from out here in Colorado.

    • @TS-1267
      @TS-1267 Рік тому

      ... Do you know that 'Boebutt' Idiot on Two 'Feet'🤔🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿📃

    • @azmobileauto
      @azmobileauto 11 місяців тому +1

      You fully support him all they way from Colorado what does that look like? (Your support)?

  • @Super.Whimsy
    @Super.Whimsy Рік тому +64

    My heart breaks to hear what Mr Lucky went through.
    It seems like the county’s behavior is designed specifically to bleed him dry of funds in hopes he’ll give up. Shameful.
    Thank you for sharing this and hopeful for a swift decision, in spite of the county’s tactics.

    • @girlinvt
      @girlinvt Рік тому +14

      Well to be blunt that's exactly what every court case is. Almost always one of the individuals or groups in litigation has more money than the other. There's a reason they say you can't fight city hall or the government. You can also add the police, or municipal services, your employer, big business of any kind, or a rich individual. As it is any court case is expensive and extremely time consuming. In any given year, 98% of criminal cases in the federal courts end with a plea bargain - a practice that prizes efficiency over fairness and innocence, according to a new report from the American Bar Association.Feb 22, 2023. You better never get hurt at work because that can literally take 3 to 5 years to litigate, and will either cost you a percentage of any settlement or tens of thousands in cash payed hourly.

    • @girlinvt
      @girlinvt Рік тому +1

      Well to be blunt that's exactly what every court case is. Almost always one of the individuals or groups in litigation has more money than the other. There's a reason they say you can't fight city hall or the government. You can also add the police, or municipal services, your employer, big business of any kind, or a rich individual. As it is any court case is expensive and extremely time consuming. In any given year, 98% of criminal cases in the federal courts end with a plea bargain - a practice that prizes efficiency over fairness and innocence, according to a new report from the American Bar Association.Feb 22, 2023. You better never get hurt at work because that can literally take 3 to 5 years to litigate, and will either cost you a percentage of any settlement or tens of thousands in cash payed hourly.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +6

      💯

    • @perryrush6563
      @perryrush6563 Рік тому +2

      ​@@girlinvtalthough in criminal cases the public defender is provided by the public....as are the prosecuters. True, they are limited in the cost and expense that can be provided at a client's whim...especially if it is a clear cut situation. Prosecuters also are limited in how much can be spent in certain situations. A small town prosecution can be told to settle if the private citizen has deeper pockets.
      I agree with the underlying point I think that you age trying to make, but wanted to just say that. Now when it comes to state and Federal, yeah...those budgets are waaaaaaay more suited to prosecute to prove a point. That is especially true when it comes to agencies with abbreviations (EPA, DOE, DOJ, IRS, etc etc etc). So I DO agree, but criminal is SLIGHTLY different...at least at the beginning or on 90% (a random number I decided to arbitrarily assign) of such criminal cases.

    • @CountryWV
      @CountryWV Рік тому +8

      That's pretty much what all court hearings are. The more powerful entity will drag the poorer entity through every court hearing possible.

  • @andrewlayton9760
    @andrewlayton9760 Рік тому +53

    "Objection: Foundation."
    "Sustained"
    Watch the lawyer proceed to build the foundation. NICE!

  • @icake1017
    @icake1017 Рік тому +52

    So annoying how people in power when they are being asked why something is happening or has happened that shows they acted wrongly they always say "we'll have to look into it" then absolutely NOTHING happens. Is that response a free pass to do whatever you want without any repercussions.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +13

      Very typical. The people in power like the power but not the responsibility or accountability that comes with it.

  • @BOSSY-BECCA
    @BOSSY-BECCA Рік тому +18

    My new favorite channel. From now on, when I ask someone a question. You better believe I'm putting " or something else" at the end of it from now on! The way you say it sounds like a catchphrase! I love it!

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +4

      We are glad you’re here! Thanks for watching or something else… 😂

    • @chakalulu67
      @chakalulu67 10 місяців тому +2

      Ben Hutchinson Cross, is the BOSS! ❤😂

  • @sabastian4858
    @sabastian4858 Рік тому +25

    Subbed, liked and subbed again. Thank you for your work on Miss Eskros case. Sharing with friends.

  • @tc4660
    @tc4660 Рік тому +32

    They bank on the plaintiff running out of money. 4 weeks for transcripts absurd.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +3

      Classic tactics of delay and exhaust.

    • @lisahinton9682
      @lisahinton9682 Рік тому +3

      @tc4660
      In one of the earlier videos of this Bethany Eskro series, there is a link to a GFM in the description section of the video. If we all who are outraged at what she went through gave even a dollar, Ben's bill would be paid, and then some.

    • @tc4660
      @tc4660 Рік тому +1

      @@lisahinton9682 this tactic or strategy needs to be litigated so as to bring penalties if employed, it clearly violates speedy trial legal requirements. It’s repeatedly used(abused) to make issues go away and applies undue psychological stress on the accused which is just as bad as physical damage.

    • @aklemmer8936
      @aklemmer8936 Рік тому

      What Bull

    • @fractuss
      @fractuss Рік тому +3

      @@deliberateindifferencewi The process is the punishment.

  • @tc4660
    @tc4660 Рік тому +46

    The phrase “totality of the circumstances” needs to be eliminated from the vernacular of the public sector and from the courts. Procedurally in LEO policy and in court procedure elements are identified step by step and each of those elements have merit rendering them unique to totality.

    • @Xenotypic
      @Xenotypic Рік тому +5

      yeah it's very often abused to arrest someone or abuse someone on essentially RAS or even less. Essentially, many times it does not amount to probable cause.

    • @tc4660
      @tc4660 Рік тому +7

      @@Xenotypic what kills me is that these people think arresting someone is procedural. When, in fact, it’s one of the most traumatic incidents a person can go through in their lives. Arresting one innocent person should be equivalent to one police officer being hurt or losing their life maliciously. And treated as such with a parade and flowers letting the community know a huge mistake was made.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +6

      Totality of circumstance can be the enemy of due process or a way for a judge to say something doesn’t smell right. Either way its not definite.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +6

      Employment law also requires employees to vindicate themselves in retaliatory investigations. Maybe it would be ok if there were unlimited damages for putting them through it but employees lose out either way.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +7

      This case is at the intersection of criminal and employment law.

  • @anthonycole3883
    @anthonycole3883 3 місяці тому +3

    Wow . Intelligent, thoughtful, dignified people. That was beautiful.

  • @user-bkljiqw
    @user-bkljiqw Рік тому +13

    The MCSO should not have even wasted the taxpayer money up to this point. One witness was one too many.

  • @lisahinton9682
    @lisahinton9682 Рік тому +9

    Ben throwing that pirate joke in, though! LMAO! The guy cracks me up with his quick wit at every turn! Slammin' Chief Buffoon, slammin' the buffoon's attorney, and throwin' in a pirate joke to boot! Love this guy!

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +5

      😂 thanks for watching and following along with Ben’s humor. You never know what zinger is about to be served.

  • @Von04
    @Von04 Рік тому +11

    Ben , you are very interesting to watch and listen to!

  • @sing2me
    @sing2me Рік тому +27

    How the hell can Douglas Holton, Jr
    testify with a sexual abuse in his record?

  • @tedlouie
    @tedlouie Рік тому +15

    35:25 👏👏👏👏 imagine if more of us had that phrase so readily available to us!

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +7

      We all have a lot to learn.
      You can also see Ben struggling not to make a pirate joke.

  • @jimengfer3905
    @jimengfer3905 Рік тому +17

    The wheels of justice seem to move exceedingly snail like. I do understand this is a civil matter. Stay thecourse. 53:35

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +15

      It’s unbelievable. Thanks for watching. We know lucky worked hard for his day in court.

    • @TerryWaggoner
      @TerryWaggoner Рік тому +10

      God I hope Mr. Lucku wins. It's so easy for governmental employers to railroad employees. Maybe justice will prevail. Counsel certainly gave it all he had.

  • @Watersnake777
    @Watersnake777 Рік тому +14

    The totality of circumstances may be that a subordinate should be called N.
    He thinks someone will believe that.

  • @IndyNewsontheStreet
    @IndyNewsontheStreet Рік тому +7

    For better or worse, the judge reminds me of a character on The Office.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому

      😂 now that’s something to think about.

    • @susanwhitfield4068
      @susanwhitfield4068 Рік тому

      The uk one or the American one
      .she reminds me of a certain hair teacher in a movie.where she lived in her nieces house,also a teacher. Made a boy eat a huge chocolate cake..Didn't like children.

  • @joemoon9936
    @joemoon9936 Рік тому +8

    With your help sir we're gonna fix these scumbags one by one...

    • @TS-1267
      @TS-1267 Рік тому

      ... They're Like "La Cucaracha" Amigo... Auditor's Will Always Be In Need... Indeed 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🥂 🥸

  • @Crazy_-DoG-_Lady--
    @Crazy_-DoG-_Lady-- Місяць тому

    27:25 He looks like he was just about to THROW UP a little.
    Nervous Much, Mister Holton?
    ❤️🇺🇲❤️

  • @amberdawnthemjohnsons9908
    @amberdawnthemjohnsons9908 4 місяці тому +1

    😂🤣😂🤣😂
    “Mrs. Lawrence, that might work on the PRB, but not in Wisconsin!”
    I almost choked on my cold drink😂🤣

  • @loctee
    @loctee Рік тому +19

    Did you order the code red!!???

  • @wilfridcyr
    @wilfridcyr Рік тому +14

    This guy must be an albino multi racial witness. I'm white and Holton is way whiter than I am. Weird🤔

    • @beastshawnee
      @beastshawnee Рік тому +3

      your opinion in his genetics changes nothing. Have you never seen how siblings can vary?

    • @lindag4029
      @lindag4029 Рік тому +4

      I would like to know what are the multi races.

    • @wadestanton
      @wadestanton Рік тому +5

      @@lindag4029 in USA 'just one drop of colored blood' is the rule.

    • @BOSSY-BECCA
      @BOSSY-BECCA Рік тому

      😂😂😂

    • @BOSSY-BECCA
      @BOSSY-BECCA Рік тому

      Me too ​@lindag4029 😂😂😂😂

  • @gregory8777
    @gregory8777 Рік тому +8

    Why did the first female asking about walking someone out of the building ask what race is the male in her interrogation? She asked for the man’s DOB and his nationality or race? That question seemed very intrusive and seemed to have no relation to the interrogation. Why did she ask about the man’s race?

  • @offpassive
    @offpassive Рік тому +5

    Attorneys seem confused with each response.
    Ok.
    Ok.

  • @andrewewels3054
    @andrewewels3054 Рік тому +4

    Have your Bingo evidence card ready for the end ❤️ !

  • @Lei-AICPhD
    @Lei-AICPhD 10 місяців тому +1

    They love to say this: “The Totality of the situation”. These words are a cop-out in 99.9% of cases. Shouldn’t be allowed!

  • @savethehumans7460
    @savethehumans7460 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the share.

  • @girlinvt
    @girlinvt Рік тому +4

    More than 100 million cases are filed each year in state trial courts, while roughly 400,000 cases are filed in federal trial courts. So if you think any case you maybe involved in is ever going to be guick in any way your going to be in for a surprise. While many cases settle within a few months to a year, cases that must go all the way to trial for resolution can take a good deal longer. If your in federal court it can take 12 to 18 months on average. So if your out of work, in jail, or suddenly handicapped from an injury at work your going to be bringing in zero money, and will have to maintain yourself and home with zero income coming in, plus payment by the hour for a competent lawyer. A civil case is even more time. Although most cases will go to trial within 2 years from the date of filing, some will take longer because they involve complex issues of liability, insurance coverage disputes or high dollar damages that require expert testimony to prove up. There isn't anyone involved in the court industry that isn't aware of the time it takes without staling tactics to get into a US court. They also are very aware that the individual is either in jail, out of work, or in some workers comp cases unable to physically do the job they used to before an injury and they will use that against you. Which means they are vulnerable either financial or physically or both, and the lawyers are well aware that you can't take an extended time case that can drag on for a year to upto 5 without going bankrupt.

    • @lisahinton9682
      @lisahinton9682 Рік тому +1

      @girlinvt
      You know a lot, but ya can't spell _you're!_ Why not?

  • @magickone138
    @magickone138 Рік тому +2

    Watch you “ours” they like “R’s.” 😂

  • @tc4660
    @tc4660 Рік тому +5

    Suspend for retaliation threats? Every joe private citizen would be jailed, charged and be susceptible to a protection order from the courts in addition to possible conviction for those threats.

  • @donhale6939
    @donhale6939 Рік тому +8

    Why would his race matter to her? He was a witness.

  • @robertbean66
    @robertbean66 8 місяців тому

    Does anybody know of one person in the sheriff’s department that didn’t lie at some point or another and that also goes for M.Lawrence????

  • @davidjury478
    @davidjury478 7 місяців тому

    lol I don’t remember I don’t recall

  • @RozeechildRN
    @RozeechildRN Рік тому +3

    Interesting how Doug says he mixed race and wierd they even asked that question in the begining.

    • @RozeechildRN
      @RozeechildRN Рік тому

      Additionally, he doesn't looked mixed race so I highly doubt he has experienced racism at work.
      I'm not saying someone who look more white can't experience it, so don't get me wrong.

    • @seangormley4902
      @seangormley4902 2 місяці тому

      I think it goes to his reaction to racial abuse, son.

  • @51m0n77
    @51m0n77 Рік тому +2

    I’ve never heard a cop refer to race as multiracial. Isn’t it referred to as black, white or Latino? Dispatchers would be scratching their heads

  • @user-bkljiqw
    @user-bkljiqw Рік тому +1

    GOOOOOOO LUCKY!!!!!

  • @EthanKandler-ti8px
    @EthanKandler-ti8px Рік тому +7

    Service with racism, and an extreme lack of integrity.

  • @sircampbell1249
    @sircampbell1249 Рік тому +2

    Why is this not in a courtroom?

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +7

      It’s an administrative hearing because it’s discrimination court. It’s by zoom because the administrative law judges have decided they can. On the other hand they are ways easier to post.

  • @susanwhitfield4068
    @susanwhitfield4068 Рік тому +1

    Why did he say usually, with the training question..why not say o learnt about .
    ...etc.By saying usually doesn't sound like he had done the training

  • @prex345
    @prex345 Рік тому +3

    Why ask his race?

  • @lindac6416
    @lindac6416 Рік тому +2

    Interesting 🧐

  • @stevenhardway7650
    @stevenhardway7650 2 місяці тому

    No but i dont recall 😂

  • @taotaomotna5395
    @taotaomotna5395 Рік тому +5

    Co`s piracy to lie.

  • @danlowe8684
    @danlowe8684 3 місяці тому

    Holton is multi-racial much like me - Irish & German!!

    • @robinbaptiste445
      @robinbaptiste445 Місяць тому

      Lol...too bad irish and german are not races....they are white....their race is caucasian. Irish and German are nationalities

  • @tc4660
    @tc4660 Рік тому +4

    Training on diversity? It’s common sense in this day and age for anyone pursuing a career in the public sector. If you have a hint of bias work in the private sector. It easily identifiable by everyone around you. Give me a freaking break. That is as dumb as a jail sally port intake broadcasting every hour over the PA to remind employees not to sexual harass one another or the people coming in incarcerated.

  • @amberdawnthemjohnsons9908
    @amberdawnthemjohnsons9908 4 місяці тому

    So, she got Holton here as a quick witness huh? Over lunch break? Or I’m tripping? And why is she taking breaks like she has to go ask Ms. I don’t recall for the next step for her presentation!!

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 10 місяців тому +1

    38:34 BINGO

  • @johnhopkins8504
    @johnhopkins8504 Рік тому +1

    Maybe i missed it. Is there more videos to explain to us to why this in front of a judge. Just looking for a little background on this case

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +2

      There is a lucky intro video. We can try to out one out that recaps everything

    • @joemoon9936
      @joemoon9936 Рік тому

      @@deliberateindifferencewi please do... Love your work...

  • @spandex7055
    @spandex7055 Рік тому +1

    Why was he asked his race?

  • @slayermcfatty1664
    @slayermcfatty1664 Рік тому +1

    is there a verdict in this case?

  • @seredin
    @seredin Рік тому +4

    Sounds like a discrimination troll.

  • @tedlouie
    @tedlouie Рік тому +2

    2:11 Hey @deliberateindifferencewi why do they ask for race?
    I’ve always been fascinated/perplexed by how in the US it’s completely acceptable to ask for someone’s race, whereas in most of the countries I’ve lived/live in -maybe a skewed sample - even the word “race” is at the very least seen as a bit… complicated if not outright offensive.

    • @sing2me
      @sing2me Рік тому +3

      This is the only court where I've heard race requested from a witness along with DOB. This is highly unusual.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +11

      It is a variation of the black friend argument: Mr W is not racist because he has one black friend. Corporation is not racist because it has one black manager. We also understand Mr Hilton is the nephew of the former sheriff David Clarke.

    • @Bruce4lmighty
      @Bruce4lmighty Рік тому

      @@sing2meMr Lucky filed a race discrimination suit so that’s why race is asked. It’s central to the entire proceeding 👍🏻

    • @sing2me
      @sing2me Рік тому +1

      @@Bruce4lmighty so that applies to some witnesses and not others?

    • @Bruce4lmighty
      @Bruce4lmighty Рік тому

      @@sing2me I can’t tell you what strategy for the line of questioning Ben used however, I can see the relevance if it proves the claims made in the suit. An Attorney can ask whatever they like during cross examination. Whether it “applies to some witnesses...” is invalid because there is no obligation to ask every witness the same questions…

  • @egwthe1
    @egwthe1 11 місяців тому

    I have no idea what is going on.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  11 місяців тому

      It’s the end of a five day hearing. We are gratified but mystified why this video gets so much attention.

  • @heybri
    @heybri Рік тому

    are they not under oath during depositions.. its incredible how easily they lie using "i don't recall" about things they OBVIOUSLY do recall and its obvious to anyone watching and provable in so many ways that they are outright lying.. I'd be charged if i lied under oath but hey.. they are heros.. right?

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому

      A lie is an answer the same as the truth.

    • @heybri
      @heybri Рік тому

      @@deliberateindifferencewi i'd lose my mind hearing some of these ppl.. respect for keeping your composure.. Have u ever lost it on a witness ? if so, which video is it LOL

    • @johnweb7055
      @johnweb7055 Рік тому

      Three things:
      1. This is not a deposition.
      2. Have you had any training of any time as part of your employment? When was that? How many hours exactly?
      3. What were you wearing on your wedding day? What was the brand and color of socks? Did you wear an undershirt? How old was it?

    • @johnferguson40
      @johnferguson40 4 місяці тому

      ?.​@@deliberateindifferencewi

  • @buckbeezi6263
    @buckbeezi6263 Рік тому +2

    i finished it

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +1

      Glad you made it through. Painful but important.

    • @buckbeezi6263
      @buckbeezi6263 Рік тому

      @@deliberateindifferencewi can you give me insight on what the goal of these proceedings are? I think I heard someone say it’s a probable cause hearing, and has a decision been handed down or your still waiting? Also, I assume if you appeal her decision it would be reviewed by someone not in Wisconsin?

  • @33roses
    @33roses Рік тому +1

    Are we awaiting a decision?

  • @ceesjanmol
    @ceesjanmol Рік тому +1

    It's good to know this witness was multiracial. Because clearly that is something that is highly relevant.

  • @ProudCapitalist-ko9ff
    @ProudCapitalist-ko9ff 9 місяців тому

    What exactly is “multi-racial”?

  • @christopherskipp1525
    @christopherskipp1525 Рік тому +1

    What's this about?

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +2

      This is a race discrimination complaint submitted by Deputy Lucky against the MKE Sheriff’s Office. If you go to the Lucky v MCSO playlist, you’ll be able for see the storyline from start to finish. Thanks for watching!

    • @christopherskipp1525
      @christopherskipp1525 Рік тому +1

      @@deliberateindifferencewi I appreciate the background on this video.

  • @MichaelJones-ys4xc
    @MichaelJones-ys4xc 10 місяців тому

    I love it! The pasty white, Irish looking guy isn't white, he is multiracial! This is a pitiful but does indicate someone who knows the game.

  • @fatedtolive667
    @fatedtolive667 Рік тому

    What did I miss? I neither saw nor heard anything to suggest that Anyone quit. You tube should ban anyone who uses click bait. Still, I can ask that the chanel not be recommended. So there's that

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +4

      Well thanks for watching. We feel that resting 7 day hearing after one witness is quitting. Should there have been hands banging on tables?

  • @johnweb7055
    @johnweb7055 Рік тому

    Respectfully, the title of this video is 100% misleading. There was two days of testing hear not to mention multiple documents entered into evidence. We do not know who came before the witness on the video. To claim the opposing side “quit” is absolutely disingenuous. I am a criminal defense attorney and I have tried over 100 cases. In many of those I never called a witness. Why? Because I did not need to. That is not quitting, that is resting.
    Moreover, I suspect this is a motion for summary judgement. That is not a trial and has different standards. And finally, if the county “quit,” and the attorney engaged in written arguments then there will be a written ruling by the court. Where is that ruling? If you had won you would have shown it.

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +1

      We had at least one other comment like this who felt as strongly. Would you prefer rests over quits?

    • @johnweb7055
      @johnweb7055 Рік тому +2

      @@deliberateindifferencewi First off….my lord, am I unable to proof read? Apologies for the comment, it was borderline gibberish.
      Next, “rests” has a different meaning than “quits.” You know that as well as I do. Don’t play dumb; you chose to title this video with with word “quit” not because it is accurate; but because you wanted viewers to click on the video. So yes, say “rests.” Be honest, and admit why you chose the label that you did (i.e. to get clicks).
      Finally, I will restate my original argument (in better English). The title of this video is misleading. They other party did not quit after the first witness. This is proven by the various references to two days of previous testimony. I take exception to this video because the title is misleading.

    • @FiveToedSloth1
      @FiveToedSloth1 2 місяці тому

      @@johnweb7055 Overruled.

  • @CountryWV
    @CountryWV Рік тому +2

    Why is this court hearing on zoom?

    • @deliberateindifferencewi
      @deliberateindifferencewi  Рік тому +3

      because it is an administrative workers hearing and not real court. O the other hand if this were in Federal court you would never see these witnesses.