Oh man I like that! On a more serious note though, I've seen more stuff get torn up by fighting the inevitable or just plain old bullheadedness than I care to remember. And as an old guy I've done some of that myself too! One of the benefits of getting older is that I don't have to make the same mistakes twice. Having an out if things go sideways and using it if they do is a lot better than tearing something up. Cheaper too. Thanks for the comment and the continued interest.
Man I group up in the country and big mountains operating equipment. My 🤬 would be tight in a dozer going down that, you got some Big 🤬balls. And tiger cat built an awesome machine. You’re one of the best I’ve seen in one. Keep up the safe and good work.
Well thanks! It was a little dicey there in a place or two but not too bad really. My hands weren't sweating, that's when I know im hanging it out over the line. The worst part of pushing the limits on steep ground in the winter is wondering if I'm going to hold on or she's going to break free. I'm looking forward to have my Big Orange Pumpkin up there at the top of the hill holding on to me! One thing for sure is that this LX870D is the best Buncher I've ever had the pleasure of operating! Thanks for the comment and for watching! Have a good '23. Be safe.
Thanks! That was a beautiful unit, hated to finish it up! Glad you like them, the credit needs to go to my wife, she makes the long footage I take into something interesting! Best wishes to you for a good New Year?
Thanks for the comment. It was more tricky than dangerous. It helps having the best Buncher available to do the job. As you probably know, Logging will always be dangerous. But by using your head it's possible to minimize the risks and avoid a lot of the hazards. That's part of the reason why we're doing these videos, to pass those ways of doing things on. We appreciate your interest! Have a good new year!
Wow what an awesome video Jason you’re so careful and knowledgeable….a great teacher for new guys. Please keep them coming, just watching you cut is awesome Enjoy your day and thanks to your wife also for the editing and posting. Craig
Well I don't know about that Craig, but thanks for saying so! Heck, I'm going to have to get a larger hard hat or start thinking I know all the answers! Glad you like them, my wife made this one longer with you in mind! Hated to finish that unit up, but I'm on a new one with equally good wood, even talller to boot. This one is more challenging though, quite a lot of yarder ground and a lot of running water so it's pretty tricky. Happy New Year to ya! Be safe.
I love watching im a contract hand cutter in the northeast new Hampshire and Vermont and Massachusetts i hope to buy a feller buncher to grow my contract cutting business
Right on. I had an outfit based in Central Vermont for 20 years or so. Logged all over Vermont and NH, got up into Maine a bit as well as Mass. and. NY. some too. Glad to hear you like the vids, we're sorry that we had to stop. The toughest part of contract cutting is making sure your customers pay promptly I found, but if you get enough good outfits to keep the bunchers busy you're good to go! As you can tell, my blood runs yellow and black because of the Tigercat LX870D. Thanks for the comment and good luck to ya! Be safe
@@Loggeraaron1990 There are a lot of variables and differences between the east coast and the west coast. Generally Hand Fallers here bill out around $100.00 an hour. They generally work a 6 hour day. Workers Comp plays a huge part of that rate for them as contractors. Buncher rates vary but with the replacement cost for an 870 class machine at well over 800K the hourly bill out for an non-tethered machine should be $300 or better an hour. That may seem high to you, but the average volume per acre and the subsequent production for a buncher, or a good hand faller, plus taking into account the overhead costs they incur make it realistic. Its a good question, thanks for asking. Hope you're making money at it, be safe brother!
I’ll start by saying I don’t run a buncher but have always wanted to. I run an excavator most of the time and do some clearing. Ofcourse I’m ripping roots and pushing the whole tree over. How much balancing do you have to do with the tree, or does the machine just handle it pretty easily? Obviously big timber is a bit different. It’s always amazes me the places you all can go. No way I could go up the slopes you do and work. The tracks are made to do the opposite thing. Not to mention the clearance and ability to keep your weight level. I could watch you work for hours. So much smoother than other track buncher operators I’ve seen. Being one with the machine and not someone sitting in the seat playing slap sticks and pushing buttons.🤦♂️ Stay safe.
That's a good question. It depends on a lot of factors but as a general rule this LX879D Buncher handles this second growth wood with ease, and really any timber very well. It's the best buncher ive ever run, it's an animal! And running Buncher is the most fun I've ever been paid to do! The design features of the carrier, the front, the head and the leveling system are all optimized to give an operator maximum power and control. The more you tilt into the hill the more the center of gravity shifts forward, giving you more stability. It's got closed loop Hydraulics which give full power for multi-functioning without any drop off and also has twin swing motors. So even with all that being said, there is quite a lot of nuance that an operator has to apply as the terrain gets more rugged, the trees get taller or other factors like snow load get more pronounced. Like I say in this video, in a situation where it's the tree or the Buncher, the tree is going to win. It's just got so much mechanical advantage, once it hits a certain angle its going to go. So in a dicey situation an operator has to use his or her head to use all the tricks to make it as easy to put the tree where it needs to go without subjecting the machine to uneccessary stress. In big, tall wood, or tough ground, setting myself up so I can stay under the tree from the get go means that I can maintain control over it effortlessly. But as you saw in the video, a heavy limb load and having to cut from a less than ideal position reduced my options for recovery of a mid-sized tree and allowed the stem to get beyond that control. I run it at factory settings, so the reliefs will open when they should and allow clamps to open, or the head to rotate, for example, and avoid damaging components. But from hard learned experience I let it go when I know that I'm losing a stem. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for it, and for watching and the comments too. We appreciate it! Be safe.
@@thedailylogger All of that makes perfect sense and pretty much how I imagine it with never being in a buncher. The 870d does seem like a powerhouse but also very nimble. It’s amazing. I’ll keep watching as long as your still making them😉. I find them very enjoyable. Been on equipment as far back as I can remember and love every bit of it. Thanks again.
@@erikcourtney1834 Right on. That's a good description of the 870 - powerful and nimble. Great combination. What part of the world are you working in? Well, thanks for the comment and for watching, we plan on keeping them coming! Be safe.
@@erikcourtney1834 Right on! Hopefully you are not getting any of this extreme weather that seems to be hitting most of the country hard. Sounds like you do interesting work too. Good talking with you, be safe!
Copy that. It's like they took the best parts of the old Koeghring design and made it lighter, stouter, bigger and better protected. It is an absolute wood cutting animal! Where abouts in Canada are you working? Hope your winters off to a good start, happy New Year to ya! Be safe.
Definitely well built head…I’m cutting in the Mid Vancouver island area, mostly fir hem stands. Just chilling for a couple weeks, then back to the grind on the 9th. You have yourself a happy new year as well sir. Hopefully I’ll have some new vids out this year.🥳
@@Stormdodger Copy! That is nice country there - Nanaimo or there abouts? Seems like you must have a lot of second growth coming on line there on the Island. Other than the big old growth stumps that is good cutting isn't it? The farm were on now we're really in some nice second growth wood, they even throw us some reasonable ground from time to time! Good talking with ya, I'll keep an eye out for your new vids. Be safe out there!
@@thedailylogger Campbell River actually. Some of the blocks I’ve been on are more like land clearing…. Just gross wood size. All I see is beauty wood size in Oregon.. 🌲👷♂️
@@Stormdodger Copy. That's farther north than I thought. I haven't been up that far yet, we'd like too. You're in some beautiful country for sure. Hopefully the economy will hold together for us all and we can have a good year in 2023. Good talking with you!
What’s a split cut is it like when you split the wood certain cut one section is it like a thinning? it was -2 down here and keep it and when I went to work this morning happy new year 2023!!!!!
A split line is where the wood on a unit changes direction and goes to a different landing. The direction of the wood is called lead. We use these in clear-cut, or even aged management forestry. Good questions!
Awesome content, always cool to see how another fellow buncherman works and lays out blocks.
Sage advice! “Just let it go, she’ll be there when you get back” You might have a good country song there?
Great job as always!
Oh man I like that! On a more serious note though, I've seen more stuff get torn up by fighting the inevitable or just plain old bullheadedness than I care to remember. And as an old guy I've done some of that myself too! One of the benefits of getting older is that I don't have to make the same mistakes twice. Having an out if things go sideways and using it if they do is a lot better than tearing something up. Cheaper too. Thanks for the comment and the continued interest.
Man I group up in the country and big mountains operating equipment. My 🤬 would be tight in a dozer going down that, you got some Big 🤬balls. And tiger cat built an awesome machine. You’re one of the best I’ve seen in one. Keep up the safe and good work.
Well thanks! It was a little dicey there in a place or two but not too bad really. My hands weren't sweating, that's when I know im hanging it out over the line. The worst part of pushing the limits on steep ground in the winter is wondering if I'm going to hold on or she's going to break free. I'm looking forward to have my Big Orange Pumpkin up there at the top of the hill holding on to me! One thing for sure is that this LX870D is the best Buncher I've ever had the pleasure of operating! Thanks for the comment and for watching! Have a good '23. Be safe.
I could watch this all day, steep side hill cutting with a tigercat, awesome machine, good work, thanks for sharing 💪
You're welcome! Glad you like the video. We appreciate the interest and the comment, happy new year to ya!
Excellent video I really appreciate your time you and your wife put into them Thanks
Thanks! That was a beautiful unit, hated to finish it up! Glad you like them, the credit needs to go to my wife, she makes the long footage I take into something interesting! Best wishes to you for a good New Year?
From an old country boy from South Georgia ,I cain't express to you how dangerous that looks!
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Thanks for the comment. It was more tricky than dangerous. It helps having the best Buncher available to do the job. As you probably know, Logging will always be dangerous. But by using your head it's possible to minimize the risks and avoid a lot of the hazards. That's part of the reason why we're doing these videos, to pass those ways of doing things on. We appreciate your interest! Have a good new year!
I love the videos man help me out alot
Wow what an awesome video Jason you’re so careful and knowledgeable….a great teacher for new guys. Please keep them coming, just watching you cut is awesome
Enjoy your day and thanks to your wife also for the editing and posting.
Craig
Well I don't know about that Craig, but thanks for saying so! Heck, I'm going to have to get a larger hard hat or start thinking I know all the answers! Glad you like them, my wife made this one longer with you in mind! Hated to finish that unit up, but I'm on a new one with equally good wood, even talller to boot. This one is more challenging though, quite a lot of yarder ground and a lot of running water so it's pretty tricky. Happy New Year to ya! Be safe.
I love watching im a contract hand cutter in the northeast new Hampshire and Vermont and Massachusetts i hope to buy a feller buncher to grow my contract cutting business
Right on. I had an outfit based in Central Vermont for 20 years or so. Logged all over Vermont and NH, got up into Maine a bit as well as Mass. and. NY. some too. Glad to hear you like the vids, we're sorry that we had to stop. The toughest part of contract cutting is making sure your customers pay promptly I found, but if you get enough good outfits to keep the bunchers busy you're good to go! As you can tell, my blood runs yellow and black because of the Tigercat LX870D. Thanks for the comment and good luck to ya! Be safe
How much do you charge I get 250 a day contract cutting with a chain saw now
@@Loggeraaron1990 There are a lot of variables and differences between the east coast and the west coast. Generally Hand Fallers here bill out around $100.00 an hour. They generally work a 6 hour day. Workers Comp plays a huge part of that rate for them as contractors. Buncher rates vary but with the replacement cost for an 870 class machine at well over 800K the hourly bill out for an non-tethered machine should be $300 or better an hour. That may seem high to you, but the average volume per acre and the subsequent production for a buncher, or a good hand faller, plus taking into account the overhead costs they incur make it realistic. Its a good question, thanks for asking. Hope you're making money at it, be safe brother!
I’ll start by saying I don’t run a buncher but have always wanted to. I run an excavator most of the time and do some clearing. Ofcourse I’m ripping roots and pushing the whole tree over. How much balancing do you have to do with the tree, or does the machine just handle it pretty easily? Obviously big timber is a bit different. It’s always amazes me the places you all can go. No way I could go up the slopes you do and work. The tracks are made to do the opposite thing. Not to mention the clearance and ability to keep your weight level. I could watch you work for hours. So much smoother than other track buncher operators I’ve seen. Being one with the machine and not someone sitting in the seat playing slap sticks and pushing buttons.🤦♂️
Stay safe.
That's a good question. It depends on a lot of factors but as a general rule this LX879D Buncher handles this second growth wood with ease, and really any timber very well. It's the best buncher ive ever run, it's an animal! And running Buncher is the most fun I've ever been paid to do! The design features of the carrier, the front, the head and the leveling system are all optimized to give an operator maximum power and control. The more you tilt into the hill the more the center of gravity shifts forward, giving you more stability. It's got closed loop Hydraulics which give full power for multi-functioning without any drop off and also has twin swing motors. So even with all that being said, there is quite a lot of nuance that an operator has to apply as the terrain gets more rugged, the trees get taller or other factors like snow load get more pronounced. Like I say in this video, in a situation where it's the tree or the Buncher, the tree is going to win. It's just got so much mechanical advantage, once it hits a certain angle its going to go. So in a dicey situation an operator has to use his or her head to use all the tricks to make it as easy to put the tree where it needs to go without subjecting the machine to uneccessary stress. In big, tall wood, or tough ground, setting myself up so I can stay under the tree from the get go means that I can maintain control over it effortlessly. But as you saw in the video, a heavy limb load and having to cut from a less than ideal position reduced my options for recovery of a mid-sized tree and allowed the stem to get beyond that control. I run it at factory settings, so the reliefs will open when they should and allow clamps to open, or the head to rotate, for example, and avoid damaging components. But from hard learned experience I let it go when I know that I'm losing a stem. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for it, and for watching and the comments too. We appreciate it! Be safe.
@@thedailylogger All of that makes perfect sense and pretty much how I imagine it with never being in a buncher. The 870d does seem like a powerhouse but also very nimble. It’s amazing. I’ll keep watching as long as your still making them😉. I find them very enjoyable. Been on equipment as far back as I can remember and love every bit of it. Thanks again.
@@erikcourtney1834 Right on. That's a good description of the 870 - powerful and nimble. Great combination. What part of the world are you working in? Well, thanks for the comment and for watching, we plan on keeping them coming! Be safe.
@@thedailylogger I’m in western Ky. But I work all over the states. I haven’t been as far NW as you are though.
@@erikcourtney1834 Right on! Hopefully you are not getting any of this extreme weather that seems to be hitting most of the country hard. Sounds like you do interesting work too. Good talking with you, be safe!
Would love to have a 26"…..Cheers from 🇨🇦 .
Copy that. It's like they took the best parts of the old Koeghring design and made it lighter, stouter, bigger and better protected. It is an absolute wood cutting animal! Where abouts in Canada are you working? Hope your winters off to a good start, happy New Year to ya! Be safe.
Definitely well built head…I’m cutting in the Mid Vancouver island area, mostly fir hem stands.
Just chilling for a couple weeks, then back to the grind on the 9th.
You have yourself a happy new year as well sir.
Hopefully I’ll have some new vids out this year.🥳
@@Stormdodger Copy! That is nice country there - Nanaimo or there abouts? Seems like you must have a lot of second growth coming on line there on the Island. Other than the big old growth stumps that is good cutting isn't it? The farm were on now we're really in some nice second growth wood, they even throw us some reasonable ground from time to time! Good talking with ya, I'll keep an eye out for your new vids. Be safe out there!
@@thedailylogger Campbell River actually. Some of the blocks I’ve been on are more like land clearing…. Just gross wood size. All I see is beauty wood size in Oregon.. 🌲👷♂️
@@Stormdodger Copy. That's farther north than I thought. I haven't been up that far yet, we'd like too. You're in some beautiful country for sure. Hopefully the economy will hold together for us all and we can have a good year in 2023. Good talking with you!
What’s a split cut is it like when you split the wood certain cut one section is it like a thinning? it was -2 down here and keep it and when I went to work this morning happy new year 2023!!!!!
A split line is where the wood on a unit changes direction and goes to a different landing. The direction of the wood is called lead. We use these in clear-cut, or even aged management forestry. Good questions!
@@thedailylogger ho okay have a great day
Good soil
Copy!