It's like in that moment Liam was stop pretending and finally acting on his feelings, on his love for Steffy. He just stopped thinking and trying to please everyone and just start acting in the moment.
There was nothing standing in his way. Hope said she was done with him. I always laughed at this scene. Poor Donna was traumatized by what she saw. Notice she was all happy when she thought it was Hope Liam was making love to but it changes when she realizes its Steffy. That's what they get. I'm not sorry. For the past year, Brooke, her sisters and her daughter have insisted that there is no real love between Steffy and Liam. That he married her as a rebound or all Steffy has over Liam is sex and she manipulated. This right here is not manipulation. You might be able to manipulate plenty things but you cannot manipulate feelings.
Liam even said it himself here. His entire relationship with hope was filled with anxiety and stress. His relationship with Steffy is passionate and easy. The writers on this show make no sense because no man would choose to go back to a relationship that made him stressed and anxious with a woman that would cut and run about everything over one that was passionate and easy with a woman that would do anything for him.
Wait until steffy gets a new love interest liam is going to lose his mind the writer's have no choice they have to much chemistry whether they are together or not
mengistusophie apparently that’s happening soon. Steffy is apparently going to start a relationship with a doctor. I can’t wait to see Liam freak out. Especially since that man is going to spend way more time with kelly than Liam’s neglectful ass.
Sometimes people like the pain and misery because that what their believe their deserve that! Also their one reason only Liam went back to Hope in 2018 and it wasn’t because he loved! Even if 2018 was the last time Hope was beautiful!
I can 🤮🤮🤮💩💩🤣🤣I stopped watching for a bit...same ole nasty sex scenes...between these two boring characters of Steffy and Liam...cha Cha Cha in the 🚽💩🤮The whole Brooke and Bill sick story what a turn off. I did tune in for Stephanie and Brooke though..But with Ronn Moss out to...B&B sorta slipped in the ratings... 😢 Sad
@@DAVegas-yc8xq Fullblown proof that Donna is a ditz. Any smart or normal person would call home or text Hope telling her that she needs to speak with her immediately. But no Donna runs around the grounds screaming like banshee "Hope" "Hope" "Hope" Plus why would be all the way out there. That's stupid. If anything Hope would be at work.
@@mariejordan2369 Steffy did not steal it. Hope throws it away then wants it back when Steffy pick it up, cleans it up, then claims it as her own. Hope did with Ivy too. She wanted Liam back after she saw her happy with Liam.
@@sandraarkorful9132 Hope only wants Liam back when he happy with someone else because then she sad! But Ivy and Liam it was literally a short time relationship that was going to end horribly anyway! Because it was the catalyst for Steffy coming back! But Hope was more hatful to Ivy then Steffy!
Steffy and Liam would have fun together and have things in common. I never remember such scenes with Lope about books, authors, and actors they both like.
This is because Donna is a ditz. She doesn't have any common sense at all. Like you said Donna should've called Hope and told her that she needed to talk to her urgently. But no Donna ran around Brooke's grounds screaming "Hope! Hope! Hope!" like a damn banshee. Why would Hope be all the way out there. If anything Hope would be at work, not down at the cabin. That scene with Donna was pure comedy.
@@danik2414 yes your right.its been a while since I watched and got it muddled up. Hope married Wyatt because Liam didn't show up which is kind of hilarious considering Hope and Liams wedding in Italy. Hope was carrying Wyatts baby but wanted to be with Liam and Liam tried to convince Hope to say it was his baby.
Anna i know it's their role and they play it well. So there's no dumpy here! Next time if u want to give your opinion don't be such a smart ass bcus I'm very intelligent.
@@annasutter7135 Why are you such a debbie downer??? Just let people have their opinions about their favorite characters. Everybody knows it's just a 18min. soap. It's entertaining and an escape for a few minutes a day. Make believe and fantasy. Quit being so harsh.
And why was Donna SO sure Hope HAD to be on the premises? Running around, screaming her name...first thought when she barged in the house & there was no sign of Hope would normally be thinking Hope was at Forrester Creations, being half of them practically LIVE there!!!
OMG excuse me? This is Brooke`s property. This is why Donna was there and saw them in the first place. Steffy is the one who should not be there, let alone have sex with Hope's ex-fiancé in that cabin. That was rude!!! She knows that this cabin belongs to Hope's family. But hey, as usual she did not think it was necessary to mention that.
@@kimberlyhenderson4806 So? It is still Brooke's mansion. She should not be there with Liam knowing that Hope's family could walk in on them. And as far as I remember she said that she hung out there as a little girl. This must have been the time when Brooke was raising her with Ridge before she started going after Hope's men. I highly doubt that Brooke lets her stay there after that.
@@danik2414 The mansion that Brooke is occupying is owned by Eric and Stephanie FORRESTER/FORRESTER'S CREATIONS property. Brooke is basically renting it because Eric allowed her too. Otherwise she probably would still be in "The Valley"!.🤣🤣🤷🏽♀️
At 5:19 This Guy Understands It! No! This is messed up and creepy and kind of weird! Dude, she’s a grown ass woman let her make her own mistakes! Rick stop trying to be everybody saver! At least he not an bully yet which lead to Aly death! People seem to forget that it was all started by Rick that lead to Alley’s death!
This is where Liam truly started to fall in love with Steffy. When he truly got to know Steffy Forrester the person. They didnt have these conversations the first go around. It was mainly just sex the first time. This time, it was true emotional intimacy as well as physical
I agree with that completely! The first time their was together it all manipulation and sex with them but here it was passion! It was when I truly become an Liam and Steffy fan!
So if I'm not mistaken...This is when Steffy got pregnant (Aspen)in the cabin and years later Hope too would get pregnant(Beth/Phoebe)by Liam(supposedly)at the same cabin. Talk about lightning striking twice. 🥰🥰
Based on how much time passed between this scene and when Steffy found out she was pregnant, i think she got pregnant once they started living together again.
@@kitjune9333 Possibly but when she moved back to the cliffhouse she started showing very quickly...like she was already going into her 2nd trimester. It was just an observation. But you may be absolutely correct.
@@UrGworlCanCan maybe it just seemed longer because there were other story lines going on at the time (Katie's PPD, Stephanie dying, the fight for FC) so the focus was elsewhere.
@@kitjune9333 Ikr it was a lot of different storylines going on at time. B&B was very exciting to watch. With so many soaps gone the writing has become so lackluster and wanting. I wish it would revamp itself and get some new writers to bring new life in these wonderful characters.
Katie and Brooke are both delusional when it comes to Hope and Liam!!!! They love to say everything isSteffy’s fault but it’s Liam’s responsibility to remain faithful. Steffy didn’t.t propose to herself! Steffy didn’t T stand on hat mountain and say I Do to herself. Steffy didn’t drag Liam to a club the night before his wedding. When Liam felt stood up, he chased Steffy down at the club and crashed her night out with her friends. Liam asked Steffy to run away when they were in Italy. Liam allows Steffy into his life willingly….. at the hospital when Hope said he needed to leave Steffy behind, he looked stupid and said nothing!!!
And everytime Hope ask Liam can he let Steffy go, he never answer that question directly. He just deflect and say something like "But you're the one I wanna marry Hope". Lol he never answer the question cause he no he can't do it. And Steffy is the same way..She's married but she still can't let Liam go. Couple weeks ago, she saw Liam kissing Ivy and she got extremely jealous and she not only interrupted their lunch, she used their daughter Kelly to shoo Ivy away. Lol Liam and Steffy are the same person. That's why they click
LOL! Between this and the video, the entire set of Logan sisters have gotten a good look at Liam working Steffy over. And, they can never "unsee" it. LOL!
Every time Katie says "my husband, whom i love so much" i cringe. She wants to punish Bill, she wants him to feel guilty, she wants him exposed but she's ensuring when she's done flaying him, he still stays with her. She's as controlling as Bill, only he's more blatant about it. Yeah Donna, now you know why Liam can't stay away from Steffy.
There's nothing beautiful about Steffy and Liam together in the cabin because it was all based on manipulation 😮🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Donna should have never kept that a secret from her niece😮
It wasn't manipulation on Steffy and Liam's end. Steffy and Liam had no idea the lie Rick told Hope. So as far Liam knew, he was now single and he was moving on with Steffy
They can deny it all they want...... Steffy and Liam actually have more in common than Hope and Liam. Besides loving Bop Hope's comedy sketches they just discovered they also love Gregory Peck. If only......
It an soap opera so it for dramatic affect don’t read too much into this! This comment section is way too into Donna looking at them! What would you do?
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi I mean I wouldn’t be watching it either! But yes the reason I didn’t act the way everyone else did is because well it was drama for BNB!
You know, Steffy and Liam may didn't make out at the club, but they did kiss THREE times before they ever went to the club..They went to the Club the first time in episode 6385. Steffy kissed Liam in episodes 6379, 6382 and 6384. So technically, he did cheat, just not at the club lol
@@treenzmj3699 Yes but why would Hope be all the way out there. Hope wouldn't be down at the cabin, if anything she would be at work. But it was good for Donna. She sure got an eyeful. I'm trying to figure out why she was so horrified. What's wrong? She's never seen two ppl who are in love making love to each other.
If Katie was so worried about Bill going to prison, she wouldn't have been so eager to make sure Hope and liam knew what was going on: there's no way she coukd trust Hope pr liam woukdnt have reported him ... or Donna for that matter. .
No! Because Steffy found out she was pregnant in December of 2012! You find out that you’re pregnant according to my mom 2 to 3 weeks after you get pregnant! So unless Steffy was pregnant for two months with and she didn’t know! The time he doesn’t add up it’s a Funny statement, but a wrong statement!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498… this is a year old but you’re right, I got it wrong, storyline is that their baby was conceived in Aspen while they were there with Bill and BrHooker… looking after Will during the time Katie was suffering PPD.
@@OlgaQLD Yes but I just saw it now so I was replying! That mostly when Steffy got pregnant was when their was in Aspen! Especially so they can make the joke Aspen was born in Aspen! I didn’t know Aspen existed until I started watching the bold and the beautiful! Hey it never too late to comment! I made comment form 6 years ago and two weeks ago someone made the first comment!
I find it creepy that Auntie Donna kept looking through the window when she thought it was Liam and Hope...I would've been like "oops" and quickly turned away...happy that they were together but embarrassed that I caught them.
Cha cha cha 🥰🔥🔥🔥🔥 I love Liam and Steffy together. But I believe he loves them both. With Steffy is fun 💃 intense passion 🔥 and the cherry on top is that they are friends. With Hope is more gentle like she's gonna break 🤷
I don’t blame Katie Spencer for being angry with her husband, but she should’ve told her niece what happened why Liam is not with her granted I don’t think Katie knew what her nephews intentions were Rick, but everybody was playing dirty to get what they wanted and they didn’t care about anybody else in the process especially Liam and Hope😮
It was for drama this is a soap opera! You can’t use your brain when watching soap opera sometimes! Minus 2023 where everything has become so horrible I’m hopeful that that BNB will get canceled!
But Liam does keeps secrets from Hope…you dimwit Katie. He’s not being honest w/Hope, Liam can’t stop thinking about Steffy. He can’t have a life without having Steffy around.
Exactly. Katie kept blaming Bill and Steffy for the reason Hope and Liam weren't together when it was mainly Liam. Like you said, Liam couldn't function without Steffy in his life. Yes, he loved Hope but he also loved Steffy
@@kitjune9333Well that also creepy as well! Why are so many of these locations just again for other stuff that make it creepy! How small is the bold and the beautiful budget!
All you people still sitting here YEARS later arguing back n forth about Steffy vs. Hope are ridiculous!!!!! Let it go already geeze......even the characters themselves have called a truce on the show about going back n forth in this love triangle. THIS IS A WRITTEN T.V. SOAP OPERA ......... WRITTEN BY WRITERS. THESE PEOPLE DON'T ACTUALLY EXIST OR CONTROL THE STORYLINE OR DIALOGUE!!!! Nothing wrong with having your opinion and comments, we all do, but to stoop to the name calling, insults and arguing over fictional characters when there's so much reality in the world that you can spend your energy (positive energy) on. 🤦♀️
@patience271 O.K. here we go for the people who don't have reading comprehension 🙄. I CLEARLY stated there was nothing wrong with people commenting because that's what the comment section is for. My issue was with people who are actually going after the actors calling them stupid for playing a role. I can say as much as I want to because I was stating a valid point not cursing some stranger out over a moot point because the character doesn't exist in real life. You just wanted to come at me but I literally had a point to my comment 🤷♀️
@patience271 give what a rest? I'm just now replying to your two month old comment because that's how much I don't give a shit about your opinion on MY COMMENT..... how are you going to tell me to give it a rest when you were the one that initially responded to MY comment 🤔? Again, like I said, reading comprehension please! Is that all you got out of my comment? That's sad & speaks volumes about you. Now let's see if this still keeps going because you have the choice to NOT respond AGAIN...... 🤦♀️
Still Donna you should have told your niece you're giving the control freak Bill Spencer exactly what he wants Steffy with Liam😮 that was never steffy's special place best Brooks property hopes moms Steffy only lived there because Taylor was presumed dead
Because this mansion belongs to the FORRESTER'S. Ridge FORRESTER allowed Brooke to occupy here after Taylor "left" to be with Thorne because of his and Brooke's manipulations. Before that she was still living in the Valley with her Mom and siblings.
Cancan Smith That house is Brooke’s house! Has nothing to do with the Forresters. Taylor and Ridge’s home which is the home Bill lives in now, is the one they shared together.
@@RealTakerslady yesssss Ridge bought this place for him and brooke. When He married brooke. Taylor was dead at the time It was brooke. Ridge. Bridgette. Rick. Taylor and thorne and that manipulation were years later. Brooke had mooved out of this place to live with ridge and his rugrats after another of taylors deaths. When ridge dumped her again. Brooke said she would never leave the home again. She raised all her children in that home.
how come Steffy's special secret place is on Brooke's estate?? Steffy never lives there. She always lived at Taylor's house. Pheobe lived at Brooke's for a while a but Steffy and Thomas never did.
Bill is married to Katie and her battleaxe sisters……she is not faithful to him at all……..she needed to mind her own business but no…….she may be married to bill but her sisters are her main concern.
That’s a great description of what Liam is! Hope needs to be fix that is for sure! I mean, imagine being the kid of your sister husband who slept with your mom! That would be horrible!
That cabin is really far for everyone to get there so fast now a days lol Liam and steffy really know how to us this cabin the right way lol but I remember Brooke and bill sneaking around in her cabin behind Katie’s back
Bill Spencer is never going to learn his lesson people keep giving him a fair shake Katie should have told the truth Donna should have burst into that cabin and told the truth😮
Secret little cabin in the woods..lol 😂 Nope this Cabin is on Brooke Logan's Estate .these writers 🤔 we viewers are just stupid.🤣🤣🤣🤣. The whole Steffy and Liam thing was just a sick 🤢 manipulated pairing Orchestrated by Trampy character ,Steffy by Writer , Bell Jr. and Obsessed sick Bill 😅. All the evil plans he cooked up with Steffy to interfere between Hope and Liam , who are the real connected couple...not just a constant barrage of sexual escapade scenes. 💩🤮. What a turn off. I got so 🥱 bored with Bill character stories of interference..blah
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Lol water under the Bridge ..but I commented facts about the Cabin..and the scripts of Interference..go back and watch all those episodes. Also this is not Kim Matula's Hope character these days..and the writer these days...has lost their minds.. Just like they have This Hope character ...Psycho creepy Thomas character 🤯..Sleeping with the nutty enemy 😱🤣 oh my.
@@doloresromo199 Liam and Steffy are my favorite soap operas couple ever! So I’m going to defend! The cabin part you was right! I’m not talking about Kim’s Hope Logan! I’m taking about Annika’s Hope Logan and how stupid she is! Hope and Thomas are disgusting together!
This is how Liam and Steffy got together: Steffy asked for a kiss. An engage Liam stuck his tongue down Steffy's throat. Hope saw and dumped liam. Liam proposed and bedded Steffy 1 minute after Hope left him. The very next day Liam ran to tell Bill about his New fiancee. So Liam proposed and bedded Steffy way before the manipulation happend. Just like Liam had sex with Amber cause she told him she was pregnant with his baby. ❤
@@folikusgu2972 Liam couldn't run from Steffy fast enough when she opened her legs to Bill and when Bill lied about the affair with Steffy still going on he believed it so fast because he knew it wasn't beyond STEFFY to do what Bill was accusing her of. He knows Steffy a hoe. But I agree on one thing u said Liam is a king waffler and walking ping pong just like Ridge was.
Are you serious? You think when Steffy was with Liam all those years she was only with him to get back at HOPE? 🤣😂🤣😂 WOW! That's a first! Well for a woman to get to know and make so many sacrifices for a guy only to get back at her nemesis would be foolish...and Steffy is never foolish. Now riddle me this....As much as HOpe proclaimed that her and Liam are each other's future; why is it that she doesn't even know him. She has allowed so many people tell her how to be IN her relationship that she always keep being on the losing end.
@@UrGworlCanCan Your right it is foolish and disgusting. But girl, trust me! Don't you ever let Steffy fool you after all these years. You think she loves Liam so quickly just after Bill left her for Katie in few hours?!? Is Steffy fully recovered from Bill and all the hurt and pain she went through all these years? Think again! If Hope really loves Liam, she would never let Steffy use,manipulate and pull Liam's strings. Be suspicious of why did Steffy had stop the gondola when she was in it, so she was forced watch Steffy and Liam get married on the mountain, the video of them in the hotel room in Italy, and why did she ruined Liam to be humiliated on their wedding day and also would be suspicious of Steffy motives and the whole scenario.I'm telling you, Steffy never loves Liam and never did! Steffy wanted to hurt and torture Hope so desperately, she is willing to sacrifice what so important and matters to her life, her pride, self-confidence, and self-respect. This is not about fighting for Liam's love. Its all about Hope!
@@clairedaniels1877 Finally someone realizes the truth! 🤗✊🏾 Taylor don't hate the Logans at all. She's using Steffy and Liam's relationship to get at Brooke.
Their chemistry is crazy! Liam and Steffy are the heart, soul and fire of this show. Still.
Absolutely 💯 facts
@@kensaristideI Agree Too!
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It's like in that moment Liam was stop pretending and finally acting on his feelings, on his love for Steffy. He just stopped thinking and trying to please everyone and just start acting in the moment.
There was nothing standing in his way. Hope said she was done with him. I always laughed at this scene. Poor Donna was traumatized by what she saw. Notice she was all happy when she thought it was Hope Liam was making love to but it changes when she realizes its Steffy. That's what they get. I'm not sorry. For the past year, Brooke, her sisters and her daughter have insisted that there is no real love between Steffy and Liam. That he married her as a rebound or all Steffy has over Liam is sex and she manipulated. This right here is not manipulation. You might be able to manipulate plenty things but you cannot manipulate feelings.
Yes there is love between Liam and stephy always
Yes when Liam isn't pressured by the Logans and guilt tripped and is actually allowed to choose what he really wants, he normally chooses Steffy
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Except For January Of 2012!
@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Well Steffy had that coming. She lied to Liam's face about what really happened in Aspen
It makes me so happy to see Liam and Steffy together, they belong together.
Liam even said it himself here. His entire relationship with hope was filled with anxiety and stress. His relationship with Steffy is passionate and easy. The writers on this show make no sense because no man would choose to go back to a relationship that made him stressed and anxious with a woman that would cut and run about everything over one that was passionate and easy with a woman that would do anything for him.
Wait until steffy gets a new love interest liam is going to lose his mind the writer's have no choice they have to much chemistry whether they are together or not
mengistusophie apparently that’s happening soon. Steffy is apparently going to start a relationship with a doctor. I can’t wait to see Liam freak out. Especially since that man is going to spend way more time with kelly than Liam’s neglectful ass.
@@BrianNotBjernie he freaks out he can not steffy let go !!!
Since the New man ( finn ) came is his life a Chaos !!!
Sometimes people like the pain and misery because that what their believe their deserve that! Also their one reason only Liam went back to Hope in 2018 and it wasn’t because he loved! Even if 2018 was the last time Hope was beautiful!
@@BrianNotBjernieFinn! I know it was three years ago in 2020 when he first showed up a come on dude! He already had a name!
I can’t believe Donna witness Liam and Steffy making a baby . A new life .
I love Steffy and Liam 😍😍😍😍 I just can't get enough of them 😩❤️
mooney moon: 🌞👍I agree!! I love magic too~~and Steffy & Liam are about as magic as it gets!! They have it all!
I agree they r the best!
Yes they are the best !! Hope and Liam are the most boring couple.
For real! They just go together
I can 🤮🤮🤮💩💩🤣🤣I stopped watching for a bit...same ole nasty sex scenes...between these two boring characters of Steffy and Liam...cha Cha Cha in the 🚽💩🤮The whole Brooke and Bill sick story what a turn off. I did tune in for Stephanie and Brooke though..But with Ronn Moss out to...B&B sorta slipped in the ratings... 😢 Sad
Why is Donna running all over the grounds calling Hope’s name. Why not just call Hope on her cell phone and ask her where she is? Clueless Donna
😂😂😂 my thoughts too
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849Exactly!
@@DAVegas-yc8xq Fullblown proof that Donna is a ditz. Any smart or normal person would call home or text Hope telling her that she needs to speak with her immediately. But no Donna runs around the grounds screaming like banshee "Hope" "Hope" "Hope"
Plus why would be all the way out there. That's stupid. If anything Hope would be at work.
That "Where have I been?...I love you Steffy" 🔥🔥🔥
Okay!
This confirms how much Hope and Katie are so much alike. Katie sees herself in Hope.
STEFFY. STOLE. HOPE,S. LOVE. FROM. HER. & BILL CAUSED. IT. HE,S SO EVIL
@@mariejordan2369 Steffy did not steal it. Hope throws it away then wants it back when Steffy pick it up, cleans it up, then claims it as her own. Hope did with Ivy too. She wanted Liam back after she saw her happy with Liam.
@@mariejordan2369 how do you steal a human?! Did she put a gun to his head and force him to go with her?
@@mariejordan2369WOW? Three years later and wow!
@@sandraarkorful9132 Hope only wants Liam back when he happy with someone else because then she sad! But Ivy and Liam it was literally a short time relationship that was going to end horribly anyway! Because it was the catalyst for Steffy coming back! But Hope was more hatful to Ivy then Steffy!
Hope may of had liams obligation and love but Steffy had his love and his soul
Mandy: I agree with you on that one👍🌞🐾
Yes. And Steffy is hot and cool. That's the difference to Hope.
Well said
Steffy and Liam would have fun together and have things in common. I never remember such scenes with Lope about books, authors, and actors they both like.
LIAM KISSED HER FIRST
Mandy Rayner no liam and hope first kiss in stephanie guesthouse.
I meant sat in the car after his batchelor party
I meant the cabin
They really brought the passion and heat to the show
Yes Unlike The Devil Couple In 2023! Which Bring Stupid!
Donna couldn't pick up the phone and call Hope to find out where she was? 😂😂😂😂😂 She had to run around the entire Estate 😂
This is because Donna is a ditz. She doesn't have any common sense at all.
Like you said Donna should've called Hope and told her that she needed to talk to her urgently.
But no Donna ran around Brooke's grounds screaming "Hope! Hope! Hope!" like a damn banshee. Why would Hope be all the way out there. If anything Hope would be at work, not down at the cabin.
That scene with Donna was pure comedy.
Their hot. I think i like liam better with Steffy
I have always believed e Liam and Steffi. Why did he fall for pitiful ass Hope. A tramp just like Brooke. Yet there's a long going love triangle.
@@patriciabradley301 i do not remember hope sleeping with her husband's father..lol
Dani LET IT GOOOOO! Liam has...
@@ashlee6341 Hope was carrying wyatts Baby? They were married lol
@@danik2414 yes your right.its been a while since I watched and got it muddled up. Hope married Wyatt because Liam didn't show up which is kind of hilarious considering Hope and Liams wedding in Italy. Hope was carrying Wyatts baby but wanted to be with Liam and Liam tried to convince Hope to say it was his baby.
Liam & Steffy ♥️💚💙💜🥰😍
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No matter what manipulations of this love triangle everyone are so blind to see what Lame and Steffy have ❤❤❤
Christina Bonvillian
I Agree totally with you!!
They are magic!
@Sara Zimmermann 👎👎👎
Nancy👏👏How right you are!! Team Steffy all the way!!
@Sara Zimmermann Yea, right. Don't think so.👎😨. Need to put your thinking cap back on. Your really off!!😤
Liam and Steffy have true love. You can not fake that.
its a soap and the actor play her role this is all you are a dumpy
Anna i know it's their role and they play it well. So there's no dumpy here! Next time if u want to give your opinion don't be such a smart ass bcus I'm very intelligent.
I think not look what you write true love not exist its all play you are dumby sorry
People say it all of the time that characters have true love on screen. Who cares and why am I wasting my time with you. Bye Felicia!
@@annasutter7135 Why are you such a debbie downer??? Just let people have their opinions about their favorite characters. Everybody knows it's just a 18min. soap. It's entertaining and an escape for a few minutes a day. Make believe and fantasy. Quit being so harsh.
I love steffy,and Liam
I agree
Brooke, Katie and Hope saw the video of Steffy and Liam on the tablet, but Donna got a live viewing up close and personal in this episode 😂😂😂
And what’s so funny is that just for a sec Donna thought it was Liam and hope just for her to see steffys face and feel betrayed lol😂
Funny how they were all so sure they will find liam with hope knowing that he is always around where steffy is even now
And why was Donna SO sure Hope HAD to be on the premises? Running around, screaming her name...first thought when she barged in the house & there was no sign of Hope would normally be thinking Hope was at Forrester Creations, being half of them practically LIVE there!!!
@imallaboutucarter7750 Lol that was so silly. Like Donna could have simply picked up the phone and called her
@@imallaboutucarter7750Yes!
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fiExactly!
Omg that's where Hope and Liam lives now. 7 years ago that was Steffy special place
OMG excuse me? This is Brooke`s property. This is why Donna was there and saw them in the first place. Steffy is the one who should not be there, let alone have sex with Hope's ex-fiancé in that cabin. That was rude!!! She knows that this cabin belongs to Hope's family. But hey, as usual she did not think it was necessary to mention that.
@@danik2414 Brooke always let Steffy hang out there. Hope never knew it was there until Liam took her there.
@@kimberlyhenderson4806 So? It is still Brooke's mansion. She should not be there with Liam knowing that Hope's family could walk in on them. And as far as I remember she said that she hung out there as a little girl. This must have been the time when Brooke was raising her with Ridge before she started going after Hope's men. I highly doubt that Brooke lets her stay there after that.
@patience271 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯% Correct
@@danik2414 The mansion that Brooke is occupying is owned by Eric and Stephanie FORRESTER/FORRESTER'S CREATIONS property. Brooke is basically renting it because Eric allowed her too. Otherwise she probably would still be in "The Valley"!.🤣🤣🤷🏽♀️
At 5:19 This Guy Understands It! No! This is messed up and creepy and kind of weird! Dude, she’s a grown ass woman let her make her own mistakes! Rick stop trying to be everybody saver! At least he not an bully yet which lead to Aly death! People seem to forget that it was all started by Rick that lead to Alley’s death!
This is where Liam truly started to fall in love with Steffy. When he truly got to know Steffy Forrester the person. They didnt have these conversations the first go around. It was mainly just sex the first time. This time, it was true emotional intimacy as well as physical
I agree with that completely! The first time their was together it all manipulation and sex with them but here it was passion! It was when I truly become an Liam and Steffy fan!
So if I'm not mistaken...This is when Steffy got pregnant (Aspen)in the cabin and years later Hope too would get pregnant(Beth/Phoebe)by Liam(supposedly)at the same cabin. Talk about lightning striking twice. 🥰🥰
Based on how much time passed between this scene and when Steffy found out she was pregnant, i think she got pregnant once they started living together again.
@@kitjune9333 Possibly but when she moved back to the cliffhouse she started showing very quickly...like she was already going into her 2nd trimester. It was just an observation. But you may be absolutely correct.
@@UrGworlCanCan maybe it just seemed longer because there were other story lines going on at the time (Katie's PPD, Stephanie dying, the fight for FC) so the focus was elsewhere.
@@kitjune9333 Ikr it was a lot of different storylines going on at time. B&B was very exciting to watch. With so many soaps gone the writing has become so lackluster and wanting. I wish it would revamp itself and get some new writers to bring new life in these wonderful characters.
@@UrGworlCanCan the horrible writing got me thinking Bell is trying to get the show cancelled.
You really thought those were Hope's shoes Donna, like really 😂😂😂😂
Katie and Brooke are both delusional when it comes to Hope and Liam!!!! They love to say everything isSteffy’s fault but it’s Liam’s responsibility to remain faithful. Steffy didn’t.t propose to herself! Steffy didn’t
T stand on hat mountain and say I Do to herself. Steffy didn’t drag Liam to a club the night before his wedding. When Liam felt stood up, he chased Steffy down at the club and crashed her night out with her friends. Liam asked Steffy to run away when they were in Italy. Liam allows Steffy into his life willingly….. at the hospital when Hope said he needed to leave Steffy behind, he looked stupid and said nothing!!!
And everytime Hope ask Liam can he let Steffy go, he never answer that question directly. He just deflect and say something like "But you're the one I wanna marry Hope". Lol he never answer the question cause he no he can't do it. And Steffy is the same way..She's married but she still can't let Liam go. Couple weeks ago, she saw Liam kissing Ivy and she got extremely jealous and she not only interrupted their lunch, she used their daughter Kelly to shoo Ivy away. Lol Liam and Steffy are the same person. That's why they click
Hard to believe this was so many years ago liam has married steffy twice since then
mengistusophie they’ve been married 3 times once in aspen once when she got pregnant 3 rd time after Wyatt
And have 2 Childs with Liam ( Aspen in Heaven and Kelly )
Donna sure peeked at Liam and Steffy for awhile. 🤦🏻♀️
LOL! Between this and the video, the entire set of Logan sisters have gotten a good look at Liam working Steffy over. And, they can never "unsee" it. LOL!
She is such a stalker
Liam and stffey began to to gather hope need to find some one else to be with liam is to old for her hope go back ware you come from
Every time Katie says "my husband, whom i love so much" i cringe. She wants to punish Bill, she wants him to feel guilty, she wants him exposed but she's ensuring when she's done flaying him, he still stays with her. She's as controlling as Bill, only he's more blatant about it. Yeah Donna, now you know why Liam can't stay away from Steffy.
So would I. He's a good guy now, but he was a true asshole
Drinking game 😂😂😂😂
My favorite Steam episode omg 😭
There's nothing beautiful about Steffy and Liam together in the cabin because it was all based on manipulation 😮🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Donna should have never kept that a secret from her niece😮
It wasn't manipulation on Steffy and Liam's end. Steffy and Liam had no idea the lie Rick told Hope. So as far Liam knew, he was now single and he was moving on with Steffy
Othello was right Rick and Bill pay dirty and they play dirty to win Ricky's fixated on Caroline and that's why he's trying to put Thomas with hope😮
I reckon if Katie wasn't pregnant Bill would have walked out after this
🤔 wait what???? This was after Katie had the baby.... UA-cam should definitely ban/suspend these damn bots.
Katie had just had the baby in fact finding out about deacon & bill is what sent her into labor in the first place.
They can deny it all they want...... Steffy and Liam actually have more in common than Hope and Liam.
Besides loving Bop Hope's comedy sketches they just discovered they also love Gregory Peck.
If only......
They have the same sense of humor, they like the same movies, like the same music. Yep, they have several things in common
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Who doesn’t love Bob Hope? In my family you had to at least like him or know who he was! My aunt would dislike Hope!
Liam seems to b making babies well in this wood cabin
Gggggggggggcgggcgcc
Lol why Donna didnt turn around at the end? Its like she couldnt take her eyes off of Liam and Steffy getting busy
It an soap opera so it for dramatic affect don’t read too much into this! This comment section is way too into Donna looking at them! What would you do?
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Lol i mean I wouldn't stare at Liam getting Steffy off. But you right, it was for the drama
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi I mean I wouldn’t be watching it either! But yes the reason I didn’t act the way everyone else did is because well it was drama for BNB!
You know, Steffy and Liam may didn't make out at the club, but they did kiss THREE times before they ever went to the club..They went to the Club the first time in episode 6385. Steffy kissed Liam in episodes 6379, 6382 and 6384. So technically, he did cheat, just not at the club lol
All you had to do is find steffy liam is right around the corner
The ending is so silly. Donna going all the way there looking for hope. Oh please
I guess because the cabin is basically on Brooke's property and Liam did leave "crumbs"
@@treenzmj3699 Yes but why would Hope be all the way out there. Hope wouldn't be down at the cabin, if anything she would be at work. But it was good for Donna. She sure got an eyeful. I'm trying to figure out why she was so horrified. What's wrong? She's never seen two ppl who are in love making love to each other.
It would of been easier for Donna to just call to spread the information.🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
liam came on to steffy
Steffy came on to Liam lol. Liam just finally gave in
If Katie was so worried about Bill going to prison, she wouldn't have been so eager to make sure Hope and liam knew what was going on: there's no way she coukd trust Hope pr liam woukdnt have reported him ... or Donna for that matter. .
And if they didn't report him, surely more people would have found out and one of them would have reported him, namely Brooke
Why didn’t Donna go looking for Hope at the office? Why trek to the middle of nowhere?
Because this is an soap opera! No one thinks like a logical person!
liam must be missing his BOB HOPE MOVIES now hes with Hope
Mandy Rayner funny name, isn’t it? Bob HOPE
Wait you don’t know who Bob Hope is?
donna should have told Hope the truth
4:37 that sounds like a plot to an murder! Kind of creepy from your Steffy!
the logan sisters are all about drama Katie Brooke thinks she knows whats best for everyone
Little weird that Hope and Liam now live in this cabin, where Liam and Steffy conceived their first baby.
No! Because Steffy found out she was pregnant in December of 2012! You find out that you’re pregnant according to my mom 2 to 3 weeks after you get pregnant! So unless Steffy was pregnant for two months with and she didn’t know! The time he doesn’t add up it’s a Funny statement, but a wrong statement!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498… this is a year old but you’re right, I got it wrong, storyline is that their baby was conceived in Aspen while they were there with Bill and BrHooker… looking after Will during the time Katie was suffering PPD.
@@OlgaQLD Yes but I just saw it now so I was replying! That mostly when Steffy got pregnant was when their was in Aspen! Especially so they can make the joke Aspen was born in Aspen! I didn’t know Aspen existed until I started watching the bold and the beautiful! Hey it never too late to comment! I made comment form 6 years ago and two weeks ago someone made the first comment!
Why have Donna see them getting it on
duran andrews boom
Because she's nosey
@@kimberlyhenderson4806 I know
Because it is Brooke's property and she was looking for Hope. At first, she thought it was Liam and Hope since Steffy should not be there at all.
@@danik2414it would been better if she would've record it snd sent hope the video
I find it creepy that Auntie Donna kept looking through the window when she thought it was Liam and Hope...I would've been like "oops" and quickly turned away...happy that they were together but embarrassed that I caught them.
Lmao thank you. Like why would you be smiling watching your niece have sex?
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fiGood Point!
4:24 That an funny statement dude form the dude who left a path!
Cha cha cha 🥰🔥🔥🔥🔥 I love Liam and Steffy together. But I believe he loves them both. With Steffy is fun 💃 intense passion 🔥 and the cherry on top is that they are friends.
With Hope is more gentle like she's gonna break 🤷
I don’t blame Katie Spencer for being angry with her husband, but she should’ve told her niece what happened why Liam is not with her granted I don’t think Katie knew what her nephews intentions were Rick, but everybody was playing dirty to get what they wanted and they didn’t care about anybody else in the process especially Liam and Hope😮
Why is Donna shouting for hope? I'm guessing there's no cell signal in the house. Lol
It was for drama this is a soap opera! You can’t use your brain when watching soap opera sometimes! Minus 2023 where everything has become so horrible I’m hopeful that that BNB will get canceled!
Ha ha Donna traipsing all over looking for ?? and then peeping on Liam and Steffy.
Donna should have burst into that cabin and told Liam everything 😮
While he and Steffy were getting it in? No way lol
Love this one my favorite
One of my favorite episode as well!
But Liam does keeps secrets from Hope…you dimwit Katie. He’s not being honest w/Hope, Liam can’t stop thinking about Steffy. He can’t have a life without having Steffy around.
Exactly. Katie kept blaming Bill and Steffy for the reason Hope and Liam weren't together when it was mainly Liam. Like you said, Liam couldn't function without Steffy in his life. Yes, he loved Hope but he also loved Steffy
was that were hope was born were steffy and liam are in
No, Hope was born in Big Bear in the cabin where Stephanie died.
@@kitjune9333Well that also creepy as well! Why are so many of these locations just again for other stuff that make it creepy! How small is the bold and the beautiful budget!
Staff in love with her now
What?
All you people still sitting here YEARS later arguing back n forth about Steffy vs. Hope are ridiculous!!!!! Let it go already geeze......even the characters themselves have called a truce on the show about going back n forth in this love triangle. THIS IS A WRITTEN T.V. SOAP OPERA ......... WRITTEN BY WRITERS. THESE PEOPLE DON'T ACTUALLY EXIST OR CONTROL THE STORYLINE OR DIALOGUE!!!! Nothing wrong with having your opinion and comments, we all do, but to stoop to the name calling, insults and arguing over fictional characters when there's so much reality in the world that you can spend your energy (positive energy) on. 🤦♀️
MiaMore so why are you spending your energy on calling out strangers for discussing a tv show?
@patience271 O.K. here we go for the people who don't have reading comprehension 🙄. I CLEARLY stated there was nothing wrong with people commenting because that's what the comment section is for. My issue was with people who are actually going after the actors calling them stupid for playing a role. I can say as much as I want to because I was stating a valid point not cursing some stranger out over a moot point because the character doesn't exist in real life. You just wanted to come at me but I literally had a point to my comment 🤷♀️
@@lisamclouth5926 #1 Because I can.....
#2 I raised a valid point......
#3 you felt the need to take your energy to respond to my comment 🤷♀️......
@patience271 give what a rest? I'm just now replying to your two month old comment because that's how much I don't give a shit about your opinion on MY COMMENT..... how are you going to tell me to give it a rest when you were the one that initially responded to MY comment 🤔? Again, like I said, reading comprehension please! Is that all you got out of my comment? That's sad & speaks volumes about you. Now let's see if this still keeps going because you have the choice to NOT respond AGAIN...... 🤦♀️
MiaMore you’re an idiot
they are perfect together so she slept with an X his dad but Liam slept with Hope her Nemisis
and steffy slept with his dad
@@Stepbystepstuff84 😂
@@Stepbystepstuff84 oh please we all know that storyline was just a reason for the writers to put your precious Hopeless with waffleboy.
@@bridgetsautner6093 #LopeIsFake #SteamIsReal
What was Hope doing during this episode? I hope making an pizza, but she wasn’t!
Jesus, she's been running round that damn place for the whole episode
Nomad Lord
Your first word?
Why didn’t Donna call Hopes cell?
Cause it no drama!
Donna really don't know how to use a phone. Why she was so certain sge was at home, more likely at work. Nonesense script
Exactly come on it was 2012 not 1992!
Still Donna you should have told your niece you're giving the control freak Bill Spencer exactly what he wants Steffy with Liam😮 that was never steffy's special place best Brooks property hopes moms Steffy only lived there because Taylor was presumed dead
Although Sweet Donna is a fun-loving lady, she knows when to step up and see that her sisters are protected from harm.
Why does Steffy have a cabin in the woods on Brooke’s property
Because this mansion belongs to the FORRESTER'S. Ridge FORRESTER allowed Brooke to occupy here after Taylor "left" to be with Thorne because of his and Brooke's manipulations. Before that she was still living in the Valley with her Mom and siblings.
Cancan Smith That house is Brooke’s house! Has nothing to do with the Forresters. Taylor and Ridge’s home which is the home Bill lives in now, is the one they shared together.
@@RealTakerslady yesssss
Ridge bought this place for him and brooke. When He married brooke.
Taylor was dead at the time
It was brooke. Ridge. Bridgette. Rick.
Taylor and thorne and that manipulation were years later.
Brooke had mooved out of this place to live with ridge and his rugrats after another of taylors deaths.
When ridge dumped her again. Brooke said she would never leave the home again.
She raised all her children in that home.
Love the music at 15:50
Liam spencer is a typical man needs to be with a woman, and if Steffy Forrester is giving herself willingly to him he’s going to accept that😮
CHE-MY-STRY!!!!!
Bill, Rick and Steffy all dont want Liam and Hope together for diferent reasons. what will happen when the truth comes out.
Well this happen 11 years ago so you can it up to find out!
Say it say it say it say it say it say it
Sorry no they don't
With the current storyline, Rick needs to come back and save his sister Hope from Thomas.
Tam bamf: 👎👎Disagree on that one. Send Hope to Rick~~she needs to leave anyway.
Frances Mandeville: I do wish they hadn’t brought Hope back but I do wish B&B brought back some of the Foresters cuz its like they all left LA.
@@tambamfExactly!
let me guess, Donna finds Steffy and Liam.
Yes! You figured it out from episode that aired almost 11 years ago!
Yep. She found them getting busy lol
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Donna was horribly when she saw Liam and Steffy doing it!
how come Steffy's special secret place is on Brooke's estate??
Steffy never lives there.
She always lived at Taylor's house.
Pheobe lived at Brooke's for a while a but Steffy and Thomas never did.
Apparently Not The Case!
Bell clearly retcon Steffy's backstory
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Yes! Steffy got an new backstory for this cabin storyline in 2012!
Liam & Steffy was together because of Ricks lie and Bills manipulations.
And Liam's wondering dick.
Yes but he pretended to be in pain for like 2 days. And then what? She is madly in love with Steffy.
@@folikusgu2972 Well said.
@@MsGhost79 Was it only TWO days? Wow. Seemed a lot longer.
@@joandemmerritte5615
Thanks
Bill is married to Katie and her battleaxe sisters……she is not faithful to him at all……..she needed to mind her own business but no…….she may be married to bill but her sisters are her main concern.
Liam pisses me off... He cant pick steffy.. Steffy is every mans dream.. But liam is a fixer he wants to fix hope
That’s a great description of what Liam is! Hope needs to be fix that is for sure! I mean, imagine being the kid of your sister husband who slept with your mom! That would be horrible!
That cabin is really far for everyone to get there so fast now a days lol Liam and steffy really know how to us this cabin the right way lol but I remember Brooke and bill sneaking around in her cabin behind Katie’s back
Katie your are nagging tooo much
Bill is controlling too much!!
@@UrbanFlamingo He's still controlling to this day. I really dislike him
Here goes #StuffyHo showing her true manipulative ways by throwing herself in his face! #StuffyHoIsPathetic. #StuffyIsAHo #stuffyhoisacriminal #TrueLoveIsHopenLiam #LiamdoesntwantStuffyHo #MrsHopeSpencer #HopeBethLiam #TheSpencers #TeamHope #LopeForever #PrincessBethAvalonSpencer. #givebethback
No! Watch 2023 and tell what you think of Hope now?
Bill Spencer is never going to learn his lesson people keep giving him a fair shake Katie should have told the truth Donna should have burst into that cabin and told the truth😮
Secret little cabin in the woods..lol 😂 Nope this Cabin is on Brooke Logan's Estate .these writers 🤔 we viewers are just stupid.🤣🤣🤣🤣. The whole Steffy and Liam thing was just a sick 🤢 manipulated pairing Orchestrated by Trampy character ,Steffy by Writer , Bell Jr. and Obsessed sick Bill 😅. All the evil plans he cooked up with Steffy to interfere between Hope and Liam , who are the real connected couple...not just a constant barrage of sexual escapade scenes. 💩🤮. What a turn off. I got so 🥱 bored with Bill character stories of interference..blah
Wow that was lot form you! Your wrong on so many levels however! Liam and Steffy was always the better couple! 2023 proves Hope is stupid!
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman48498 Lol water under the Bridge ..but I commented facts about the Cabin..and the scripts of Interference..go back and watch all those episodes. Also this is not Kim Matula's Hope character these days..and the writer these days...has lost their minds.. Just like they have This Hope character ...Psycho creepy Thomas character 🤯..Sleeping with the nutty enemy 😱🤣 oh my.
@@doloresromo199 Liam and Steffy are my favorite soap operas couple ever! So I’m going to defend! The cabin part you was right! I’m not talking about Kim’s Hope Logan! I’m taking about Annika’s Hope Logan and how stupid she is! Hope and Thomas are disgusting together!
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Your love making was disgusting Liam and Steffy never belong together😮🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮👿
I may be unpopular but can’t stand the sight of those two making love.
MsGhost79
Then don't watch!!
Why? Because it's smoking hot? I know it's not a yawn like watching Lope or say when your Grandparents kiss🤣😂🤣😂😉🤷🏽♀️
@@UrGworlCanCanWhy do you watch your grandparents kiss?
@@tsmith7119We get it, you hate Steffy and Liam.
🧔⁉️⁉️🧔🧔🧔
I feel for Donna that scene still get me sick to my stomach and that annoying soundtrack too
They did nothing wrong as Hope and Liam aren't together anymore
@@ansaksa They are still disgusting imho
@@occhidicioccolato3415 why because hope didn't get her way???
Steffy and Liam were only together because of manipulations. If it wasn't for that there would have been no Steffy and Liam.
its a soap and very bad soap all times the same boring story
Totally agree there wouldn't be a liam and steffy
This is how Liam and Steffy got together:
Steffy asked for a kiss.
An engage Liam stuck his tongue down Steffy's throat.
Hope saw and dumped liam.
Liam proposed and bedded
Steffy 1 minute after Hope left him.
The very next day Liam ran to tell Bill about his New fiancee.
So Liam proposed and bedded Steffy way before the manipulation happend.
Just like Liam had sex with Amber cause she told him she was pregnant with his baby. ❤
@@folikusgu2972 Liam couldn't run from Steffy fast enough when she opened her legs to Bill and when Bill lied about the affair with Steffy still going on he believed it so fast because he knew it wasn't beyond STEFFY to do what Bill was accusing her of. He knows Steffy a hoe. But I agree on one thing u said Liam is a king waffler and walking ping pong just like Ridge was.
@@lillianlocklear8193
Liam believed it because Liam is a cheater himself he cheated on Hope and Steffy with eachother for over 8 freaking years.
They stick again!
Yeah Bill...Hope's pretty vicious...lots for LIam to be scared of.
You people believe Steffy loves Liam that much?!? PLZ! She never had and never will! She's using and manipulating Liam for revenge on Hope.
Are you serious? You think when Steffy was with Liam all those years she was only with him to get back at HOPE? 🤣😂🤣😂 WOW! That's a first! Well for a woman to get to know and make so many sacrifices for a guy only to get back at her nemesis would be foolish...and Steffy is never foolish. Now riddle me this....As much as HOpe proclaimed that her and Liam are each other's future; why is it that she doesn't even know him. She has allowed so many people tell her how to be IN her relationship that she always keep being on the losing end.
@@UrGworlCanCan Your right it is foolish and disgusting. But girl, trust me! Don't you ever let Steffy fool you after all these years. You think she loves Liam so quickly just after Bill left her for Katie in few hours?!? Is Steffy fully recovered from Bill and all the hurt and pain she went through all these years? Think again! If Hope really loves Liam, she would never let Steffy use,manipulate and pull Liam's strings. Be suspicious of why did Steffy had stop the gondola when she was in it, so she was forced watch Steffy and Liam get married on the mountain, the video of them in the hotel room in Italy, and why did she ruined Liam to be humiliated on their wedding day and also would be suspicious of Steffy motives and the whole scenario.I'm telling you, Steffy never loves Liam and never did! Steffy wanted to hurt and torture Hope so desperately, she is willing to sacrifice what so important and matters to her life, her pride, self-confidence, and self-respect. This is not about fighting for Liam's love. Its all about Hope!
@@sherell273 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@crisvanfan It's true! In fact, Liam was never Steffy's soulmate nor true love. He's a boy, a wuss, a weakling, and definitely not a real man.
@@clairedaniels1877 Finally someone realizes the truth! 🤗✊🏾 Taylor don't hate the Logans at all. She's using Steffy and Liam's relationship to get at Brooke.
Stuffy looks nasty
No, this is before the face surgery that made her look like balloon! Which was not bad at first until 2017, and did it really became apparent!
Liam better with hope
NELLO: DISAGREE. HOPE IS BORING AND UNINTERESTING. SHE WOULDN'T KNOW "FUN" IF SHE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
Liam is boring with Hopeless!!
@@francesmandeville5199 Three years ago Hope boring and annoying now in 2023 she is literally the devil!
Liam and Hope is that couple who nobody likes together so we all talk behind their back and hope their never found out!
@@lisagrant5232 A little man would be more precise! But then again that every man on the bold and the beautiful especially in 2023!