You sir are a life saver I was on the phone with Alexa tech for an hour finally hung up and found this, you talked a little fast (thank God for rewind ) but it's WORKING Thanks
This is the reason why I have been part of the echo and Amazon echo system from the beginning. Now IMO they are ahead of the smart home game and device integration because Amazon could see where it was headed. And videos like yours help the people that may not be savvy enough to understand the potential better understand it!
I was stubborn and was trying this with Google/Homeseer. Ive made the switch to echo within the last few months and plan to get ring on black Friday! My automation wants are simple: not wifi and voice controlled. next year ring cameras to seal the deal. Cant beat the value. Amazon is killing it.
I have been doing that for a while now. ever since ring updated their skill with Alexa that included the sensors that the alarms use. I’ve also done one better and have strategically mounted echo dots outside my house in my porch light fixture and in my driveway and when the ring cameras detect movement at certain early hours of the morning it will tell whatever is triggered the movement to stay away from my vehicles the cameras recording. Or to stay away from my house to the cameras recording. It also tells solicitors to stay away.
So does that mean if I have the motion sensor setup in my garage and hook up an echo to it will it setup of an audible alarm ? that's what I'm looking for like a high Pitched noise to scare them off.
@@jav9888 I did that. I found a high pitch alarm sound effect and you can either have Alexa play it on command you want to any echo device or have it triggered by motion. I put the echo device in my garage and before the sound effect plays Alexa turns up the volume on the echo to max volume.
I have been on the fence about getting the Ring alarm system. This video along with your other comprehensive video on the Ring alarm system convinced me to buy it! I will be using your videos as a guide. Thank you so much for making these videos! No one else come close to you in making informative videos!
This particular episode was so very helpful to me, as I was one of those people complaining about not having voice announcements for the ring security sensors, I have written to so many people, including Ring, with no help. Now A lot of people said use the Alexa, but I could not get precise instructions on how to do that, well you have, and I thank you, I still wish the ring system it self would do voice announcements, but I got it to work with Alexa, thanks to you, and I kinda like it. I have been following you since I found you, and enjoy your episodes.
This video was excellent. I am currently switching from a three contract to this system and I love the Alexa integration and your tips are like secret intel. Thank you and I look forward to more tips and tricks!
I gotta say, the amount of work you did to make sure people that have smart devices didn't get their devices triggered by the video deserves a like... and I don't even currently have smart devices. "Your truck is being ransacked" 🤣🤣🤣
Two problems with routines & announcements. Limited to one device, so if your not near that device you might not hear the announcement. Routines do not have their own volume setting. Announcements use current device volume set, so could be quiet or ear popping.
You can use "messaging" option instead of alexa says... and you can select any or all of your echo devices... As to volume setting.. you can also just assign 1 device.. like an echo dot for just announcements.. place it in the middle of the house and with full volume on...
Thanks for this video! The announcements from Alexa is what sold me on this system. Not sure if this was mentioned in previous comments but you can set up identical reminders (Example: Front door announcement - assigned to Kitchen Echo, Front door announcement 2 - assigned to Master Bedroom Echo, etc) for other Alexa devices in the case you want the announcements to happen in multiple rooms. Pretty cool feature! Your videos are always very helpful and informative. Thank you!
Great video and I have set up some of the routines you suggested. I just wish I could select more than one device to make the announcement without doing multiple routines.
I set up a couple of Ring routines to trigger, and Alexa is not making the announcements. Any idea what is wrong? I would appreciate any thoughts. Thank you. 😊
Thanks for the great video. I tried to set up the routine announcement but it says not supported. I have the ring security system. Any suggestions? Thanks
Have a question for you maybe you can answer. Watched your recent video on tips with the ring system and Alexa and was wondering can I add the same action to more then one like can I have the same routine go to my echo show and my echo show 5 as well. Thanks for all your info
Excellent review of integrating Ring and Alexa with routines. I just got ring at home and using routines to turn on lights in the back yard when any doors in the front are opened or people detection via cameras is triggered. I plan to get a simple wifi battery alarm to use instead of my Ring flood lights. Lots of flexibility. Also, I thought I saw some Wyze devices in your Alexa routines and I'm interested to know if you have to use a Wyze bridge to alexa device for these inexpensive sensors to work. That would make a good UA-cam review. Thanks.
This was a great video, one of your best. The routine options for doors and windows I didn't know that could be done. I definitely will have to watch this video a few times to set that up.
You can only choose ONE device to make announcements - this kind of sucks. I guess I can create a dozen of more of the SAME routine to announce it housewide, but why the hell didn't Amazon include an "all devices" option?
You can schedule to arm, but to disarm it needs a code, so can't do it by routine. I have setup a "good night" routine that turns off my lights, locks the front door, and arms the ring to "Arm Stay". I have a keypad next to my bed so that when I wake up I can disarm the system by entering the code. You can disarm by voice by asking Alexa to turn off the alarm (disarm) but it will ask you for the code. NOTE: You'll need to enable the voice feature in the Ring app.
Great video. Can I just buy the outdoor sensor for my shed and just connect it to my alexa for notifications? Or do I have to buy the base station also?
Very useful information, thanks. The Ring motion sensor in your truck will automatically disconnect when the dirt bags that broke in, throw it in their backpack and run away...lol
I haven't tried different brand of sirens yet. I still have the now discontinued Ring outdoor siren and I'm hoping they will release a new version soon.
@@LifeHackster on a honeywell sys i had a smart plug drivin a 12v power supply to drive a siren insin if there then that but whit ring no luck my only esterior siren is the ring cameras gracias por la ayuda.
Hi my name is Janet Brown, I was looking at your video about the ring sensor in the car, I wanted to know what kind of sensor did you use in the video to use in your car, would you please let me know. thank you
Hi, I wanted to know if it was possible for you to connect a shelly that supplies power to a siren only when the alarm is armed and there is an actual intrusion of someone into the house
How many Ring Alarm installations can you control within the Alexa app? I was thinking of having one for each of my properties (at different addresses).
How might you go about setting up devices to trigger just from an action without having to ask anything so it works away from an APP? Example home alarm set away triggers smart plug on, disarmed turns the plug off?
Thanks for your video! I have a google home ecosystem but love the ring system over nest. Any recommendations on how I should set up my home? I'd like to keep google assistant but want to fully utilize the nest. I was thinking of maybe getting some echo shows dedicated for the security system. Which devices would you recommend? Would it be easier to just fully switch over to Alexa?
LifeHackster you should do a refresh video on the the contact sensors because I tried so many attempts I just gave up. Maybe there's an update that makes it no longer functional to name the contacts sensors.
I see you have contact sensor on your shed. Is that a Ring contact sensor? I thought those are only for indoor use? If not which brand did you use? I would like to put contacts on my gates. Thanks
Yes it is.. it is kinda indoor (inside the shed) it works without problems... Now, for a gate, I'm not sure if it is open to the elements... or in a covered part..should be ok..
Can you have the announcement announce on all the Echo devices or does it only allow on 1 echo device? I have a large home with multiple Alexa/echo devices and would like the announcement to announce on all the Alexa devices throughout the house at the same time. HELP
Hi can you change the pre set up numbers in the keypad in case I want to call other numbers since I plan to use this in another country? Ty and great video.
Great videos, thank you. Had one issue, I wanted the voice announcements when a door is opened so this was great BUT for some reason my Echo Show 5 was not speaking when I did "Alexa says", it was working on my Echo but not Echo Show 5 so instead I set up the routine as an announcement and it works, I just get the announcement chime before it speaks. You know why the Alexa Says is not playing on the Show 5 but works on the Echo and my phone?
Hello Being in Europe I don't think that Alexa Guard is possible , anyway I have a alexa Dot but don't see the feauture Guard on it, and is only available in the states by subscription
I learned alot , I wished I had seen this before I brought the simple and doesn't do what I want as ring. Is ring cameras only one that can be used for monitoring service for recordings
I tried setting up the routine the same way you did to allow Alexa to announce when the front door has been opened. Any idea how to fix this or what went wrong?
have you figured out a way to make other ring cameras to have a siren noise when the ring alarm goes off? i purchased one of the Dome Siren s. i'm not impressed. it is not very loud. thank you for all your help with the videos.
Thanks for your awesome videos. Do you know if 3rd party z-wave sensors added to Ring's alarm, are advertised to Alexa to be used in routines? Thanks for your time.
Can it make announcements like shown in this video when the Echo device has the microphone turned off (muted - red light on showing device is not listening)?
@@bryanboldt887 - I know you're being insulting in your reply, but it is completely possible to mute the microphone on a device and for that device to stop all third party communication with it and only re-enable those when you unmute the device.
Would the new Wyze sense 2.0 sensors work as far as integrating into Ring app/system? It's my understanding they require their hub (not standalone anymore like the version 1.0 Sensors)?
Can you please help if you have 2:42 the same problem. I have routine setup for years, July the voice routines stop playing when the door opens. I went through the same setup process, but when I opened the door, the voice notification doesn't play. The voice notification will play in the alexa app but not when the door is opened.
I almost didn’t watch this video because I was afraid it would trigger my devices but you sir are a genius
Ikr
You sir are a life saver I was on the phone with Alexa tech for an hour finally hung up and found this, you talked a little fast (thank God for rewind ) but it's WORKING Thanks
Pro move at 6:40 - Goes out during gale-force winds. This is why you’re awesome. Excellent video as usual, and thanks!
This is the reason why I have been part of the echo and Amazon echo system from the beginning. Now IMO they are ahead of the smart home game and device integration because Amazon could see where it was headed. And videos like yours help the people that may not be savvy enough to understand the potential better understand it!
Thank You. I appreciate it.
I was stubborn and was trying this with Google/Homeseer. Ive made the switch to echo within the last few months and plan to get ring on black Friday! My automation wants are simple: not wifi and voice controlled. next year ring cameras to seal the deal. Cant beat the value. Amazon is killing it.
@@LifeHackster Is there an option ? I can Arm or Disarm , Ring alarm and Alexa app the same time
I have been doing that for a while now. ever since ring updated their skill with Alexa that included the sensors that the alarms use. I’ve also done one better and have strategically mounted echo dots outside my house in my porch light fixture and in my driveway and when the ring cameras detect movement at certain early hours of the morning it will tell whatever is triggered the movement to stay away from my vehicles the cameras recording. Or to stay away from my house to the cameras recording. It also tells solicitors to stay away.
That's a great idea! Thanks for sharing the tip...
So does that mean if I have the motion sensor setup in my garage and hook up an echo to it will it setup of an audible alarm ? that's what I'm looking for like a high Pitched noise to scare them off.
@@jav9888 I did that. I found a high pitch alarm sound effect and you can either have Alexa play it on command you want to any echo device or have it triggered by motion. I put the echo device in my garage and before the sound effect plays Alexa turns up the volume on the echo to max volume.
@@csidba OH WOW can send me the link thanks !! or the how to
I have been on the fence about getting the Ring alarm system. This video along with your other comprehensive video on the Ring alarm system convinced me to buy it! I will be using your videos as a guide. Thank you so much for making these videos! No one else come close to you in making informative videos!
This particular episode was so very helpful to me, as I was one of those people complaining about not having voice announcements for the ring security sensors, I have written to so many people, including Ring, with no help. Now A lot of people said use the Alexa, but I could not get precise instructions on how to do that, well you have, and I thank you, I still wish the ring system it self would do voice announcements, but I got it to work with Alexa, thanks to you, and I kinda like it. I have been following you since I found you, and enjoy your episodes.
You are more than welcome.. :)
Yes, this episode was particularly helpful to me as well...A+ LifeHackster!
You sir, are amazing. I am shocked at the complete lack of good references out there for what seems like basic stuff!
I've only just picked up this system and the more I'm learning the more I'm in love.
The capabilities of the ring alarm system continue to amaze me.
This video was excellent. I am currently switching from a three contract to this system and I love the Alexa integration and your tips are like secret intel. Thank you and I look forward to more tips and tricks!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
I personally think that the integration is great. Great video
I think so too!
I gotta say, the amount of work you did to make sure people that have smart devices didn't get their devices triggered by the video deserves a like... and I don't even currently have smart devices.
"Your truck is being ransacked" 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you.
Two problems with routines & announcements. Limited to one device, so if your not near that device you might not hear the announcement. Routines do not have their own volume setting. Announcements use current device volume set, so could be quiet or ear popping.
You can use "messaging" option instead of alexa says... and you can select any or all of your echo devices... As to volume setting.. you can also just assign 1 device.. like an echo dot for just announcements.. place it in the middle of the house and with full volume on...
Thank you so much for all your tips. We just installed the ring 2 alarm system today and Alex A lol is saying all the right things thanks to you😊
Thanks for this video! The announcements from Alexa is what sold me on this system. Not sure if this was mentioned in previous comments but you can set up identical reminders (Example: Front door announcement - assigned to Kitchen Echo, Front door announcement 2 - assigned to Master Bedroom Echo, etc) for other Alexa devices in the case you want the announcements to happen in multiple rooms. Pretty cool feature! Your videos are always very helpful and informative. Thank you!
Oh thanks for the FYI with multiple devices by adding a "2" behind it. I feel silly for not thinking of that
@valerie1556 you're welcome. Glad it was helpful.
The use of the motion sensor in your vehicle was pretty smart I like your creativity.
Wow, very cool intergration with Ring alarm and Alexa echo. Thx 4 sharing on the internet. Keep on designing smarthouse.
Thanks, will do!
Ayos Pare! Thank you for sharing this information- I will be using your tips to arm my new house soon!
Great video and I have set up some of the routines you suggested. I just wish I could select more than one device to make the announcement without doing multiple routines.
You can use the "messaging" instead of "alexa says"
Loved this! Exactly what I was looking for. I didn’t know the voice option was only available through Alexa. Thanks a ton! Headed to Amazon 😁🔊
Disconnected chat Diana L
I set up a couple of Ring routines to trigger, and Alexa is not making the announcements. Any idea what is wrong? I would appreciate any thoughts. Thank you. 😊
cool idea with the truck sensor you could also use the contact sensors on safes,
Thanks for this! I’ve been looking at your videos to try and decide between the Ring alarm and the Eufy one and this video has sealed my decision
Thanks for the great video. I tried to set up the routine announcement but it says not supported. I have the ring security system. Any suggestions? Thanks
Have a question for you maybe you can answer. Watched your recent video on tips with the ring system and Alexa and was wondering can I add the same action to more then one like can I have the same routine go to my echo show and my echo show 5 as well. Thanks for all your info
Yes, use the “messaging” option instead of “Alexa says”..
AMAZING! This is the video that I was waiting for since I’ll be buying it
Thank You. I appreciate it.
Excellent review of integrating Ring and Alexa with routines. I just got ring at home and using routines to turn on lights in the back yard when any doors in the front are opened or people detection via cameras is triggered. I plan to get a simple wifi battery alarm to use instead of my Ring flood lights. Lots of flexibility. Also, I thought I saw some Wyze devices in your Alexa routines and I'm interested to know if you have to use a Wyze bridge to alexa device for these inexpensive sensors to work. That would make a good UA-cam review. Thanks.
Excellent video. We need more like this. Thanks!
Thank You.
Thanks is there a way to activate all ring camera sirens if you don’t have the Ring Alarm?
This was a great video, one of your best. The routine options for doors and windows I didn't know that could be done. I definitely will have to watch this video a few times to set that up.
Omg. That’s excellent!,,, “Your car is being ran sacked”. I’m going to have to set my Alexa to my ring where it talks!
Thank You... yes.. you can let alexa say anything..
Will you review the new Ring Video Doorbell second generation when it comes out next month?
I haven’t heard about the Pro 2 yet..
You can only choose ONE device to make announcements - this kind of sucks. I guess I can create a dozen of more of the SAME routine to announce it housewide, but why the hell didn't Amazon include an "all devices" option?
Nice video... One question can I schedule, arming of the system at night and disarming in the morning through Alexa?
I don’t think you can do scheduling on the arming/disarming..
You can schedule to arm, but to disarm it needs a code, so can't do it by routine. I have setup a "good night" routine that turns off my lights, locks the front door, and arms the ring to "Arm Stay". I have a keypad next to my bed so that when I wake up I can disarm the system by entering the code. You can disarm by voice by asking Alexa to turn off the alarm (disarm) but it will ask you for the code. NOTE: You'll need to enable the voice feature in the Ring app.
Love your channel. Any work around to add extra siren to Ring? The Ring approved dome siren isn’t loud enough, thx E
Great video. Can I just buy the outdoor sensor for my shed and just connect it to my alexa for notifications? Or do I have to buy the base station also?
You need the base station.
Thank you for making this video! It was super helpful and and just super awesome!
Very useful information, thanks. The Ring motion sensor in your truck will automatically disconnect when the dirt bags that broke in, throw it in their backpack and run away...lol
True... I'll probably stick it to the cover though..so it is not noticeable.
Very smart with the truck motion sensor. Thanks for the ideas.
Hi big hug from puerto rico any update or way to use exterior siren on ring? Im trying whit smart plug and if this then that no luck.
I haven't tried different brand of sirens yet. I still have the now discontinued Ring outdoor siren and I'm hoping they will release a new version soon.
@@LifeHackster on a honeywell sys i had a smart plug drivin a 12v power supply to drive a siren insin if there then that but whit ring no luck my only esterior siren is the ring cameras gracias por la ayuda.
are you going to review that new August pro lock with wifi that dropped yesterday?
I'll check it out. Thanks.
LifeHackster and the Arlo floodlight with camera (battery) :)
Is there a way to use your Alexa as a siren to enhance the alarm sound when your ring goes off?
Iv been looking at this alarm for awhile now, just wish the monitoring worked as it should in the uk, insted of calljng one of 3 numbers you give it
Hi my name is Janet Brown, I was looking at your video about the ring sensor in the car, I wanted to know what kind of sensor did you use in the video to use in your car, would you please let me know. thank you
was looking for a announcement video and yours came up first Boy was I glad..perfect mate... you da man !!!
I like the motion sensor in the truck. Great idea!
Thank you.
So much great info! Thank you so much!
You are welcome.
Just wanted to say enjoy your videos very much very informative thanks
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Thanknyou for the video. This was VERY HELPFUL
Glad it was helpful!
great video, I look forward to the update when new updates to Ring come out
Wow the car too?! What’s the distance the sensor can communicate with the device?
Great video - very informative 👍
Hi, I wanted to know if it was possible for you to connect a shelly that supplies power to a siren only when the alarm is armed and there is an actual intrusion of someone into the house
How many Ring Alarm installations can you control within the Alexa app? I was thinking of having one for each of my properties (at different addresses).
How might you go about setting up devices to trigger just from an action without having to ask anything so it works away from an APP? Example home alarm set away triggers smart plug on, disarmed turns the plug off?
Thanks for your video! I have a google home ecosystem but love the ring system over nest. Any recommendations on how I should set up my home? I'd like to keep google assistant but want to fully utilize the nest. I was thinking of maybe getting some echo shows dedicated for the security system. Which devices would you recommend? Would it be easier to just fully switch over to Alexa?
Dude you are the man! I'm going to drive my wife crazy now 😜🤪 thank you so much
great video helped me with the new install and gave me ideas where to add sensors. now thats thinking outside the box
LifeHackster you should do a refresh video on the the contact sensors because I tried so many attempts I just gave up. Maybe there's an update that makes it no longer functional to name the contacts sensors.
My routines still work..I have my sensors named back door and it announces every time I open it.
Grat info Question is there away to turn volume up on my keypad so tells us to disarm when coming home?
Question? If someone triggers your ring alarm system can you make Alexa turn on lights ?Thanks
I'll have to guess you're using the Wyze Sense motion sensor and Wyze Bulb smartbulb.
I see others have said this, but none actually gave the model names as above...
Never mind. Looks like I missed it by a few seconds. Bah!
Yes, a bit late.. next time..
I wish Ring would sell Honeywell wireless sensors retrofit or support Andersen Verilock Translator.
Is it possible to have a routine notify you when a door has been left open?
Your back light flood lights ? I'd that by Ring ??? Love this video you did. Thanks
Thank you for posting this informative video. Stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
Will I be able to use Alexa to announce for sensors on the retrofit kit?
What about ring with google home ? I’ll be able to hear “the front door it’s been open “? Thank you
Have you tried vivint car guard?
I see you have contact sensor on your shed. Is that a Ring contact sensor? I thought those are only for indoor use? If not which brand did you use? I would like to put contacts on my gates. Thanks
Yes it is.. it is kinda indoor (inside the shed) it works without problems... Now, for a gate, I'm not sure if it is open to the elements... or in a covered part..should be ok..
@@LifeHackster Do you know of any contact sensors that are for outdoors? Preferably once that would work with Ring.
Nice tip and tricks. I have recently purchased Ring alarm home security kit. What App you are referencing to connect to my echo show 5
The Amazon alexa app
For your shed example, is it possible to trigger floodlight cams to record vs just turning the lights on?
Can you have the announcement announce on all the Echo devices or does it only allow on 1 echo device? I have a large home with multiple Alexa/echo devices and would like the announcement to announce on all the Alexa devices throughout the house at the same time. HELP
Hi can you change the pre set up numbers in the keypad in case I want to call other numbers since I plan to use this in another country? Ty and great video.
Great videos, thank you. Had one issue, I wanted the voice announcements when a door is opened so this was great BUT for some reason my Echo Show 5 was not speaking when I did "Alexa says", it was working on my Echo but not Echo Show 5 so instead I set up the routine as an announcement and it works, I just get the announcement chime before it speaks. You know why the Alexa Says is not playing on the Show 5 but works on the Echo and my phone?
Superb Video and Channel - put in good lay persons language that non techie's / security gadgers can understand - well done
Hello Being in Europe I don't think that Alexa Guard is possible , anyway I have a alexa Dot but don't see the feauture Guard on it, and is only available in the states by subscription
Have ring cameras. But cant get alarm. Amazin wont release it in New Zealand.
Sorry to hear that.
Could you set routines on ring doorbell?
Thanks for your help. Had to get the last sensor to announcement and I forgot the last two steps.
How can I get an announcement to be made on multiple Alexa devices?
Use "messaging" instead of "alexa says" and you have an option to select which echo devices or all of them to do the announcements.
Bingo!!! Thanks! That’s why lifehackster is da man!
Great info to configure
Glad it was helpful!
I learned alot , I wished I had seen this before I brought the simple and doesn't do what I want as ring. Is ring cameras only one that can be used for monitoring service for recordings
Thank bro. You helped us with setup.
Thanks for the excellent video. Did you use YoLink motion sensor and hue light?
Thanks. Wyze bulb & sensor.
Yes, they are but a bit late... next time.
I tried setting up the routine the same way you did to allow Alexa to announce when the front door has been opened. Any idea how to fix this or what went wrong?
Insightful information thank you for sharing. I just set up command routines.
Can you set it up so your ring cameras show the live feed when motion is detected on that video Alexa device you have?
Not at this time... you can only do the live feed when you have a Ring video doorbell and when somebody pushes the doorbell...
If you have an Echo Show and someone rings your ring doorbell, for me it automatically shows the live view.
@@jeron.horror me too
have you figured out a way to make other ring cameras to have a siren noise when the ring alarm goes off? i purchased one of the Dome Siren
s. i'm not impressed. it is not very loud. thank you for all your help with the videos.
Not yet..Ring hasn't opened the siren feature to alexa or automation...
LifeHackster I hope they do As it will give people out side the house the change to hear and come investigate
Thanks for your awesome videos. Do you know if 3rd party z-wave sensors added to Ring's alarm, are advertised to Alexa to be used in routines? Thanks for your time.
Can it make announcements like shown in this video when the Echo device has the microphone turned off (muted - red light on showing device is not listening)?
Yes it can..
@@LifeHackster - Awesome, thank you for confirming!
@@Khaltazar depends if you know the difference between a microphone vs a speaker :/
@@bryanboldt887 - I know you're being insulting in your reply, but it is completely possible to mute the microphone on a device and for that device to stop all third party communication with it and only re-enable those when you unmute the device.
Would the new Wyze sense 2.0 sensors work as far as integrating into Ring app/system? It's my understanding they require their hub (not standalone anymore like the version 1.0 Sensors)?
Very Good, informative and well explained how-to-do-it, Ring Alarm Tips and tricks/Alexa integration... (too Many commercials...)
Thank you... as to the ads..UA-cam does that automatically and they have been putting 2ads now..sorry about that..
It does the job. Excellent product.
When is this available in the uk
Guard in Alexa NOT available in Canada ? Damn!!!
Hi I’m trying to set up announcements for my ring sensor but the Alexa app says that it’s unsupported can you help please. Thank you
where did you get the cool lights on your wall?
Can you please help if you have 2:42 the same problem. I have routine setup for years, July the voice routines stop playing when the door opens. I went through the same setup process, but when I opened the door, the voice notification doesn't play. The voice notification will play in the alexa app but not when the door is opened.