Did Ryan Newman Nearly Expose The System?

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  • @maureenobrien4968
    @maureenobrien4968 2 роки тому +625

    Newman’s playoffs in 2014 were literally “I don’t know why I’m here, nor what I’m doing, all I know is that I must survive.”

    • @Ricky-101
      @Ricky-101 2 роки тому +13

      Off topic but why did this have the same vibe at Joey playing Yu-Gi-Oh?

    • @Fandom_Junkie
      @Fandom_Junkie 2 роки тому +7

      Current objective: survive

    • @Convectuoso86
      @Convectuoso86 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah, the 2014 was a fun season am I right? The tagline for that season should’ve been “Everyone Hates Brad Keselowski” 😂😂

  • @deathtowrestling2518
    @deathtowrestling2518 2 роки тому +484

    The system has been exposed for years. Should have stuck to the Winston Cup format that rewarded consistency and being the best overall driver.

    • @driverslqqk7940
      @driverslqqk7940 2 роки тому +12

      Yeah I kind of agree we see Harvick winning more races than anybody last year and he doesn't make the playoffs and we see Kyle Larson winning more races than anybody and Willie win the championship all it takes is one bad break and he's out how is that fair when he's shown that he's actually better I'll take more races over consistency any day that seems to be a barometer of why are we racing to win races kind of obvious the guy who wins the most races has covered the most variety of tracks and is spend the best driver through the season he's beat the field more so what a guy finishes second every race and when's the championship over somebody that won more races over the season over a guy that might not have won any good point.

    • @darthhull85
      @darthhull85 2 роки тому +28

      @@driverslqqk7940 Bro, you need to use some punctuation.

    • @ViperLemondemon
      @ViperLemondemon 2 роки тому +7

      @@driverslqqk7940 Matt Kenseth won only one race in 03 and won the championship but obviously consistency was apart of the championship back then

    • @davidalmodovar7420
      @davidalmodovar7420 2 роки тому +3

      Yes Harvick has been screwed in some of those seasons.

    • @davidalmodovar7420
      @davidalmodovar7420 2 роки тому +8

      Harvick would have 4 championships by now. It might be 3. But yeah 3 or 4 by now.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 2 роки тому +359

    He nearly did a Matt Crafton before Matt Crafton actually did it in the Truck Series

    • @jameslilly884
      @jameslilly884 2 роки тому

      Ryan is my favorite driver

    • @chloe-stephlis6281
      @chloe-stephlis6281 2 роки тому +4

      Austin Dillon got the Xfinity title in 2013 with no wins as well.

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 2 роки тому +4

      @@chloe-stephlis6281 Was it a Playoff format in the Xfinity Series at the time?

    • @chloe-stephlis6281
      @chloe-stephlis6281 2 роки тому +2

      @@SiVlog1989 my point was Matt Crafton wasn’t the first one to win a national top 3 series title without winning the whole season.

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 2 роки тому +3

      @@chloe-stephlis6281 I wasn't trying to trap you, I genuinely don't know if the Xfinity Series had a playoff format at the time. What made Matt Crafton's achievement unique of course is that the Playoffs were brought in specifically to reward winning races. The fact that he didn't, exposed the flaws in the Playoffs of course

  • @f1sherman52
    @f1sherman52 2 роки тому +449

    I think Kyle Busch winning a championship after not participating for half the races is more exposing than anything else.

    • @orangecrush5512
      @orangecrush5512 2 роки тому +12

      :::Applause:::

    • @Maverick33
      @Maverick33 2 роки тому +47

      Kyle EARNED that championship. Got injured before the 500 and had to work his ass off to make the top 30 in points. The only other drivers capable of doing what Rowdy did in 2015 is Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt and Jeff Gordon

    • @f1sherman52
      @f1sherman52 2 роки тому +30

      Yea, maybe. But he still missed half of the season. Whats the point of showing up to the races if they gonna give someone who was in a wheel chair half the races the championship. I just dont feel like being 30th in points justifies LETTING him finish 1st in points because of something that happened when Kyle was risking his tail in the Xfinity Series race.

    • @f1sherman52
      @f1sherman52 2 роки тому +5

      @Daniel G The only thing I agree with is the haul ass part

    • @f1sherman52
      @f1sherman52 2 роки тому +16

      ​@Daniel G Well I dont want a championship where the first 25 races dont matter

  • @kingofrunescapepking
    @kingofrunescapepking 2 роки тому +151

    Reminder that Jeff Gordon failed to advance out of a round where he finished 2nd TWICE

    • @DepravedCoTApologist
      @DepravedCoTApologist 2 роки тому +8

      How the fuck

    • @kingofrunescapepking
      @kingofrunescapepking 2 роки тому +24

      @@DepravedCoTApologist simple, he finished 29th at Texas after the contact with Brad cut his tire and he lost a lap

    • @MongoJoe7863
      @MongoJoe7863 2 роки тому +34

      That shit pissed me off. From that moment, I knew this points format sucked.

    • @ValueDrew
      @ValueDrew 2 роки тому +6

      And I'm back into depression again.... thanks

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 2 роки тому +5

      he got screwed by a debris caution

  • @DennyDeliversYT
    @DennyDeliversYT 2 роки тому +158

    Newman protecc
    Newman attacc
    but most importantly
    *Competition was behind Newman’s wide bacc*

    • @box3229
      @box3229 Рік тому

      Cars like to leap frog and go on top of him

  • @kerrylewis2581
    @kerrylewis2581 2 роки тому +156

    I like Ryan but never felt so worried about a driver after his crash in 2020. How he survived and walked out of the hospital holding his daughter's hands seemed impossible.

    • @xNobodyOfConsequenceX
      @xNobodyOfConsequenceX 2 роки тому +10

      My partner and I both yelled "OH GOD NO" at about the top of our lungs when that wreck happened.

    • @zavtparticles6828
      @zavtparticles6828 2 роки тому +11

      I've seen a lot of wrecks, but holy shit, the sense of dread watching that was immense. Thank God he was okay and there have been worse accidents in recent years like Allmendinger getting a spinal injury, but from a visual standpoint, it may be one of the worst wrecks of the current era.

    • @kerrylewis2581
      @kerrylewis2581 2 роки тому +4

      @@xNobodyOfConsequenceX Same here. My wife and I were close to tears

    • @kerrylewis2581
      @kerrylewis2581 2 роки тому +4

      @@zavtparticles6828 As race fans my wife and I hate wrecks. The money lost alone is insane.

    • @MaximoSirianidelCarril
      @MaximoSirianidelCarril 2 роки тому +7

      I used to like wrecks, always if the driver is ok. Until Bahrain GP 2020, since then i get scared for crashes like Byron Daytona 2020 lol

  • @TrinityRiverNetwork
    @TrinityRiverNetwork 2 роки тому +338

    I mean, in a way, Ryan Newman exposed the system by just being in the Final 4.

    • @davidklopotoski714
      @davidklopotoski714 2 роки тому +41

      I think Kevin Harvick actually exposed the system by wrecking the field at Talladega to advance.

    • @TrinityRiverNetwork
      @TrinityRiverNetwork 2 роки тому +17

      If you look closely, it's been exposed every year. Newman 2014, Busch 2015, everyone in 2016, Byron in 2017, Reddick/Logano in 2018, Crafton 2019, Harvick 2020

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidklopotoski714 that was 2015 heh

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 2 роки тому +4

      @@TrinityRiverNetwork why everyone in 2016? Logano and Kyle Busch were 2nd and 3rd in points earned that year heh. Yea Harvick didn't make it but still. It's not like Logano and KB were stragglers heh

    • @TrinityRiverNetwork
      @TrinityRiverNetwork 2 роки тому +8

      @@doomusrlc I mean everyone who won the title in 2016.

  • @3PumpChumper
    @3PumpChumper 2 роки тому +50

    I miss the days when a driver like Dale Jarrett or Bobby Labonte could win a championship based on their whole season, not this BS system of dropping hungry sharks into a pool and the last one alive wins. Now your whole season comes down to what you can do on a handful of tracks and ultimately what you can do at Miami and later Phoenix. Hence why I used to make time to watch every nascar race and now I have only a passing interest in the WWE on wheels format, at best.

    • @landonsturgeon5990
      @landonsturgeon5990 2 роки тому +1

      Well said!

    • @deadfairfieldexpedition
      @deadfairfieldexpedition 7 днів тому

      No other sport hands championships to a team/player just because what they do during the regular season. Remember the 6th seed Giants upsetting the Patriots in the Super Bowl? Or how about the 73-9 Golden State Warriors not winning the championship because they couldn't finish off the Cavs? That's how sports work.

  • @angelwitch7840
    @angelwitch7840 2 роки тому +28

    Newman is an old school driver. Wasn't called Rocket Man for nothing! Just couldn't catch a break. Loved watching him race. And the fact he is from Indiana! He is very humble, personable, and private person. Not into drama. The fact he survived the Daytona 500 crash was beyond all odds. Most people don't know he is an engineer. Tough guy in my book.

  • @therobbinsnest45
    @therobbinsnest45 2 роки тому +107

    Yeah, as others have said, Crafton actually did expose it. This system is a joke. I am so looking forward to tv contract re negotiations because that is literally the only reason the playoffs still exist at this point. NBC wants something to keep attention going up against football.....too bad it doesn't work. The playoffs have literally been the the catalyst in Nascars slow death.

    • @soulfly3438
      @soulfly3438 2 роки тому +1

      if they did all the playoff races at short tracks i would love it.

    • @therobbinsnest45
      @therobbinsnest45 2 роки тому +19

      @@soulfly3438 If they got rid of the playoffs and did a season long championship like they used to and how all other motorsports series in the world apart from drag racing do, I would love it again. However, Nascar has sucked since 2004.

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 2 роки тому +10

      @@therobbinsnest45 Yes the chase or the playoffs whatever you call it is terrible. I think its the major reason for NASCAR's fast decline.

    • @therobbinsnest45
      @therobbinsnest45 2 роки тому +7

      @@chrisoakley5830 Yessir I think so, the numbers kind of back it up as well

    • @scjacket611
      @scjacket611 2 роки тому

      @@therobbinsnest45 The numbers might be worse without the playoffs

  • @red6605
    @red6605 2 роки тому +119

    Had Ryan Newman won the 2014 championship, the playoffs would had been gone by 2017 or sooner.

    • @SaishoVibes
      @SaishoVibes 2 роки тому +6

      Yep

    • @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925
      @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925 2 роки тому +5

      Should've stayed with 12 after 2013

    • @Maverick33
      @Maverick33 2 роки тому +4

      I wouldn't say gone. This is format is still pretty popular amongst fans

    • @gullreefclub
      @gullreefclub 2 роки тому

      No that would just of cemented even further

    • @omegafolf
      @omegafolf 2 роки тому

      Nah, NASCAR would have gimmicked it up even more.

  • @cito1101
    @cito1101 2 роки тому +69

    I'm predicting Darian's next video will be "Did Daniel Hemric expose the system??" Or "Nearly exposed the system: Daniel Hemric" after the Xfinity series finale

    • @danielwest9955
      @danielwest9955 2 роки тому +7

      Hemric straight-up "won" the '18 Xfinity title without the playoffs. His mere presence will expose any and every points system in existence.

    • @3DWorldMan
      @3DWorldMan 2 роки тому

      "Did Kyle Larson expose the system?" after he somehow loses the championship

    • @nathanakers45
      @nathanakers45 2 роки тому +2

      It's going to be hilarious if Hemric takes the title. Not just a winless season but a winless CAREER

    • @763pat
      @763pat 2 роки тому +2

      This aged very well 🤣🤣🤣

    • @yurdi_yuri
      @yurdi_yuri 2 роки тому

      You legend. You just predicted the future

  • @ashketchumsdad
    @ashketchumsdad 2 роки тому +23

    My biggest issue with this format is it penalizes grinders and teams that overachieve.

  • @Mike4k_
    @Mike4k_ 2 роки тому +25

    Nascar probably would’ve changed the format again if Newman won the championship

    • @kg0173
      @kg0173 2 роки тому +6

      They did. In 2014 there were no regular season bonus points, no playoff points, no stage points. Under current system he would never go as far and Jeff Gordon would have been a boring lock for the championship four.

  • @Wheresthepepsibismol
    @Wheresthepepsibismol 2 роки тому +52

    I like how Ryan Newman went off on Jimmie Johnson and Johnson stayed chill that's good sportsmanship.

    • @jduke93
      @jduke93 2 роки тому +11

      Also to help fair with that, Jimmy did get loose

    • @scottyskydog
      @scottyskydog 2 роки тому +8

      He stayed chill because if he got stupid Ryan would eat him alive!

    • @bryonkidder6199
      @bryonkidder6199 2 роки тому +13

      It's called not wanting to get your ass kicked...lmao!

    • @stephenhopkins9541
      @stephenhopkins9541 2 роки тому +9

      Ryan would snap Johnson like a Slim Jim!
      :-)

    • @acemoneymaker8242
      @acemoneymaker8242 2 роки тому +3

      @@stephenhopkins9541 by sitting on him maybe lmao

  • @southerndude9516
    @southerndude9516 2 роки тому +11

    Newman, Crafton, and Hemric all exposed the system. It needs replacing, now.

  • @danilomancini
    @danilomancini 2 роки тому +37

    boy, I rooted so hard for him that year...

    • @Y-17
      @Y-17 2 роки тому +2

      Same

  • @kabammers1123
    @kabammers1123 2 роки тому +7

    People don’t like how he races, because he races for every spot but this man was a racer in one of its purest forms

  • @drewgibbons6860
    @drewgibbons6860 2 роки тому +4

    Ryan Newman is my favorite driver of all time.
    Got into NASCAR in 2002 and had SPEED and he was always the best in qualifying.
    The 2008 Daytona 500 is my favorite NASCAR memory of all time.
    Its a shame one of his best moments is exposing the system and the other is almost dying at Daytona.

  • @RyGuy8989
    @RyGuy8989 2 роки тому +33

    Crafton has already exposed the system in the Trucks and can do it again this year. And Hemric could expose it in the Xfinity Series tomorrow.

    • @i3u3
      @i3u3 2 роки тому +2

      Me on my way to 2031 to see a cup driver win the championship without Winning a race

    • @JG3RTR
      @JG3RTR 2 роки тому

      Doesn't matter if it's current points system or old school system. Consistency is important.

    • @jadendewar4694
      @jadendewar4694 2 роки тому +2

      yeah hemric can do it without having a win in his career

    • @j9vlikz683
      @j9vlikz683 2 роки тому

      @@jadendewar4694 dude boutta win his first championship before getting his first race win lol

    • @casualchamps1342
      @casualchamps1342 2 роки тому +3

      Lmao, Hemric got the champ, got the win too though.

  • @michaelflaherty3202
    @michaelflaherty3202 2 роки тому +67

    Newman didn't expose anything because it was already out in the open. Just giving the championship to whoever does best in the last race was an obviously stupid idea long before they even implemented it.
    edit: Oh. I guess that's actually the same conclusion you came to. Fun times.

    • @aaronberg186
      @aaronberg186 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah whoever does best over a longer period of time is champion in my opinion. Every sport doesn’t have to be the same and have a playoff.

    • @donnieearlharrisjr5941
      @donnieearlharrisjr5941 2 роки тому +2

      Socialized racing!

    • @mattteee2973
      @mattteee2973 2 роки тому +2

      I don't really know much about Nascar but enjoy these vids- but I don't understand the title.
      To me "exposing the system" would involve revealing some under the table deals, cheating, race fixing, etc. Surely the instant this format was unveiled it was obvious to anyone who checked that somebody could have been crowned champion this way?

  • @kevinramsey417
    @kevinramsey417 2 роки тому +26

    Ryan drove out of his mind that year. You had to root for him on guts alone.

    • @tanjirouzumaki144
      @tanjirouzumaki144 2 роки тому

      That's actually the year I started hating him... Gordon deserved that champ 4 spot...

    • @imrandarr1094
      @imrandarr1094 10 місяців тому

      @@tanjirouzumaki144 Blame Brad for cutting Jeff’s tyre at Texas.

  • @need4speed5353
    @need4speed5353 2 роки тому +7

    I know it wasn't the same format, but Austin Dillon won the Xfinity championship with no wins and 2013 and everyone forgot

    • @noahcoleman5556
      @noahcoleman5556 2 роки тому

      Yeah, the Cup drivers won all but 4 races that year if I remember right.

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 2 роки тому +19

    "Well, I'm positive it's the worst car we've had here in five years, so there ya go." Classic.😁👍

    • @SAHOYT71013
      @SAHOYT71013 2 роки тому +6

      That quip fucking killed me 🤣🤣🤣 Luke definitely had the right attitude and called Newman on kicking the team while they were down, but you just can't dodge a burn like that

    • @dhsRacing0620
      @dhsRacing0620 2 роки тому +2

      First time I've heard that line. Man, he roasted them. Lol

    • @CommodoreFloopjack78
      @CommodoreFloopjack78 2 роки тому

      @@dhsRacing0620 😆😁👍

  • @SpectralUmbreon197
    @SpectralUmbreon197 2 роки тому +51

    For the sake of memes and nothing else, I want to see Daniel Hemric win the Xfinity championship by finishing second. It would be the absolute peak of the "playoff" system.

  • @somethedan61
    @somethedan61 2 роки тому +19

    I feel like this is a tribute to Ryan Newman because he might retire. Goodbye Newman you were a real great driver

  • @jsimm4587
    @jsimm4587 2 роки тому +48

    The rocket man is pretty tough and no slouch he never had the best equipment but has gotten everything he could from the cars he’s had .

    • @joshuapittman4663
      @joshuapittman4663 2 роки тому +3

      He’s driven for Penske and SHR

    • @tongates8079
      @tongates8079 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshuapittman4663 Had to deal with Rusty at Penske and didn't have Danica money at Haus yet.

    • @nathanmiddaugh6986
      @nathanmiddaugh6986 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshuapittman4663 yes he drove for Penske, but that was Penske in the early to late 2000s not off today. In those days they were more on par with CGR or RCR. Ya, they’d win but you didn’t expect them to pull off a championship. But, yes, SHR was his best ride. Then Penske, RCR, and it pains me to say but Roush is terrible these days. I remember hoping Newman would get a shot with Roush. And unfortunately, I got my wish.

    • @joshuapittman4663
      @joshuapittman4663 2 роки тому +1

      @@nathanmiddaugh6986 Rusty was competing for championships only a couple years prior in the same equipment and Kurt Busch was pretty competitive in the 2

    • @ethanmcclain7570
      @ethanmcclain7570 2 роки тому

      @@joshuapittman4663 Nascar teams do have a tendency to funnel money and resources to drivers unequally, so it's still entirely possible that Ryan wasn't getting the best of the teams he was on.

  • @-Darko-
    @-Darko- 2 роки тому +46

    He used to be called "the rocket man" because of his qualifying times.

    • @chicnwing4519
      @chicnwing4519 2 роки тому +8

      Because Matt borland putting stuff in the intake for horse power the same stuff he got caught with in waltrips car the next year

    • @Maverick33
      @Maverick33 2 роки тому +1

      @@chicnwing4519 so he used Borla exhaust??? 🤣😂

    • @The52car
      @The52car 2 роки тому

      And because he went to Purdue

  • @TheGreatWildOne
    @TheGreatWildOne 2 роки тому +14

    My biggest beef with the current system is you can have one or two drivers that have been the more dominant and consistent drivers all year(Larson and Hamlin), and either of them could lose the championship in just one race. That’s ridiculous imo. I personally feel the old points system would work now with how simplified the points system is now. I think that was the biggest problem with the old Winston points system was how crazy the points worked.

    • @IAMDAVIDuRNOT
      @IAMDAVIDuRNOT 10 місяців тому

      Well that's like the Patriots (16-0 in regular season) losing one game and not winning the Super Bowl.

    • @TheGreatWildOne
      @TheGreatWildOne 10 місяців тому

      @@IAMDAVIDuRNOT this is not football man 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @f1sherman52
    @f1sherman52 2 роки тому +91

    I think Jimmie Johnson winning 7 championships exposes the system more than anything else.

    • @driverslqqk7940
      @driverslqqk7940 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah there is much parity when you're driving a Hendrix car put any driver in a Hendrix car and he'll probably win and to win five in a row it's obvious money wins the sport and that's not what fans came to see let's have every team be a multi-car team you know I always said when Jimmy Johnson was winning his seventh championship I wondered how all the other Hendrix cars felt being the experiment car so that Jimmy could win to figure out all the setups that would work and wouldn't I'm pretty sure that went on and I guess I remember Jimmy Johnson and Chad canals being caught and find for cheating more than any other team in that rain.

    • @darthhull85
      @darthhull85 2 роки тому +13

      Yeah I doubt winning 83 races had much to do with it. Unlike the loser Newman

    • @SaishoVibes
      @SaishoVibes 2 роки тому +5

      Not necessarily the 7, but the five in a row did it. Also there is one meeting that happened after his crew chief and spotter got disqualified, after the meeting, all punish was lifted. Like nothing

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 2 роки тому +3

      Not really because he won under the older playoffs where there was no cuts then after and even one time before the playoffs.

    • @graderboy41
      @graderboy41 2 роки тому +3

      Amen!!!

  • @phatmattcowboys
    @phatmattcowboys 2 роки тому +6

    I feel like this system screwed over Jeff Gordon too.

  • @stewpuddy4161
    @stewpuddy4161 2 роки тому +8

    I felt like Newman just belonged in that Cat #31. Everything about that deal seemed like it fit him to a T. He's a tough customer.

  • @picturemetrollin2093
    @picturemetrollin2093 2 роки тому +2

    I would watch almost every race of Winston Cup from 88 until Dale was killed. I actually wasn’t a Earnhardt fan, I was more apt to route for a Bill Elliott or a Mark Martin, so I don’t know what made me lose interest but the playoff format is what caused me to just stop watching all together. smh, I can see why they wanted to change up the points race but that wasn’t the answer. Unfortunately I have never regained my interest in stock car racing but I do miss watching Nascar from when I was a kid in the late 80s, Awesome Bill from Dawsonville was truly awesome.

  • @stevedarms9914
    @stevedarms9914 2 роки тому +28

    I think the system was truly exposed the following year by Kyle Busch. I was sorry he got hurt, but there's no way a driver should be able to miss that much time and still be eligible to win a championship.

  • @joeyager8479
    @joeyager8479 2 роки тому +35

    Austin Dillon exposed it by winning the 2013 Xfinity championship without winning a race. That can happen with any points system. I know, as a co-owner, we won a championship without winning a feature - just consistency and no DNFs. We won another championship by winning 10 of 12 features, so I know both sides.
    I've followed racing for over 65 years - there's no point system that satisfies everyone. You just race with the system that's in place at the time and strategize the best you can to make it work for you as much as possible.

    • @joeyager8479
      @joeyager8479 Рік тому

      @@CrayTom I was just making a point that as racers. we accept and adapt to whatever points system is being used. We had very little input into the points system that was used.
      I like point systems that reward consistency, but I'd like to know what your plan is.

  • @bluridgetraveler9764
    @bluridgetraveler9764 2 роки тому +3

    If You can win 35 races and finish 2nd one time and not win the championship... The system is an absolute JOKE

  • @Uncultured_Barbarian465
    @Uncultured_Barbarian465 2 роки тому +4

    I became interested in NASCAR in the 70's and 80's. Loved watching the races up to them changing the scoring system. They did it to bring in new fans, and they drove a bunch of us old fans off.

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 2 роки тому +11

    what about Blake Koch almost making the final 4 despite no top 5 finishes all year

    • @Greg1_c
      @Greg1_c 2 роки тому

      Imagine he won the championship with no top 5

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 2 роки тому

      that could have happened if he made the final 4 and the others wrecked out

    • @The52car
      @The52car 2 роки тому

      Who??

  • @jaedog53
    @jaedog53 2 роки тому +5

    10:00 this is what your season comes down to. Not the first 35 races. Not even the first two stages. If you speed or make any mistake on the last stop of the last race, you're done.

  • @iagofreitas910
    @iagofreitas910 2 роки тому +32

    Well, Crafton exposed it in 2019 LOL... And he can expose the system again this year...
    In 2014 Gordon deserved more the Championship
    I like this system but I miss the old points system (used until 2010) and the stages are only good in Superspeedways
    My ideal system are the current playoff system but with the Winston Cup points system

    • @hobbs12cats
      @hobbs12cats 2 роки тому

      Stages are only good for the cookie cutter tracks 1.5 mile...keep them out of road courses & superspeedways...

    • @halweilbrenner9926
      @halweilbrenner9926 2 роки тому

      Hasn't been sponsored by Winston smokes for a few years now.

    • @aldouscoroza
      @aldouscoroza 2 роки тому +2

      I am not a Fan of the Playoffs in NASCAR, Points do not Matter anymore, Win and You're in and One Race to Decide a Champion are not the Way to Go and same with Rounds and Eliminations. Personally I would like to go back to either the 2004-2013 Chase for the Championship Format or go to a Full Season Points Format (F1 Full Season or IndyCar Full Season).
      If NASCAR goes to a Full Season Format again, this is what I would do to the Points format to make every Race Exciting again, and how to make Points matter for all 36 Races again.
      Here's the Catch, only the Top 25 Get Points, and I will keep Stage Racing, but after each stage the Drivers keep Racing.
      Note: the Length of Each Stage will be like this:
      • 1st Stage - 15%
      • 2nd Stage - 25%
      • 3rd Stage - 60%
      Note: The Coke 600 will now be 3 Stages instead of the Mandatory 4
      With that out of the way, here is my NASCAR Race and Points format:
      1st - 60 points
      2nd - 50
      3rd - 45
      4th - 40
      5th - 37
      6th - 34
      7th - 31
      8th - 28
      9th - 25
      10th - 22
      11th - 20
      12th - 18
      13th - 16
      14th - 14
      15th - 12
      16th - 10
      17th - 9
      18th - 8
      19th - 7
      20th - 6
      21st - 5
      22nd - 4
      23rd - 3
      24th - 2
      25th - 1
      Stage Points Remain the Same, with only the Top 10 at the end of each stage getting points.
      Bonus Points:
      • 5 Points for Leading a Lap
      • 5 Points for Leading the most Laps
      • 5 Points for winning the Pole
      With this Points format, it encourages everyone to Race Well and Run Up Front all throughout the Race, and it Encourages Pit Strategy as well
      This Points Format is a Hybrid of NASCARs Current Points Format (Stage Racing) and Old Points Format (with a points gap for each Position and Bonus Points for Leading Laps), F1 Points (with only the Select Few getting Points) and IndyCar Points (with Pole getting bonus points)

    • @hobbs12cats
      @hobbs12cats 2 роки тому +1

      Good job in the detail option of a points system...

  • @MrMiD.Life.Crisis
    @MrMiD.Life.Crisis 2 роки тому +10

    14:35 - one week left and he's talking to them like they're dirt. Great work Ryan.

  • @jhoward5148
    @jhoward5148 2 роки тому +6

    Lol, I remember that moment well, that’s when nascar lost me as a fan.....playoffs in racing!?!? Apparently I’m not the only one that thinks this way. Local racing is where it’s at.

  • @Jpilgrim30
    @Jpilgrim30 2 роки тому +6

    I loved that season. My boy Harvick finally got a ride and team that he deserved. He’s been consistently running up front ever since.

  • @CoasterMan13Official
    @CoasterMan13Official 2 роки тому +2

    I'll miss Ryan Newman in NASCAR.

  • @citizenoftheyearCC
    @citizenoftheyearCC 2 роки тому +6

    The primary reason this will never happen again in Cup is because now Stage points for race wins and stage wins keep moving on with you for each round. In 2014 it only helped you once and then the effect wore off.

  • @ChrisMolyneaux93
    @ChrisMolyneaux93 2 роки тому +29

    "Feel better about yourself?"
    Legendary Jimmie Johnson quote.

    • @pisspratt9002
      @pisspratt9002 2 роки тому +2

      "You had all the shit that I have and then you made bad decisions and put yourself in this situation"
      SAVAGE

  • @Dummyahhselfmustdie
    @Dummyahhselfmustdie 2 роки тому +8

    Matt Crafton exposed the system, and if Daniel Hemric wins the title then, he'll expose the system in the Xfinity series.

    • @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925
      @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925 2 роки тому

      Petty exposed it in 1967 with 27 wins and his 2nd Championship (1967)

    • @Dummyahhselfmustdie
      @Dummyahhselfmustdie 2 роки тому

      Damn that's impressive

    • @timechanger9162
      @timechanger9162 2 роки тому +2

      @@coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925 I honestly wouldn’t even call him one of the greats with the era he was in. I guess he could be called a legend of the sport but I don’t think he was that great. More than Half the people he was racing against did not have as good equipment and they had like 40+ races back then.

    • @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925
      @coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925 2 роки тому +1

      @@timechanger9162 He was the best of the 60s Nuff said

    • @acog_quarks8753
      @acog_quarks8753 2 роки тому

      @@timechanger9162 💯

  • @susanbezio1529
    @susanbezio1529 2 роки тому +48

    Ryan is the last of the real race car drivers that actually drove the car. He deserved more than he was given, should of been a champion.

    • @tanjirouzumaki144
      @tanjirouzumaki144 2 роки тому +2

      Newman was a never was... he was only decent in penske equipment... and the year in the video he lost to the guy he traded cars with...

    • @tanjirouzumaki144
      @tanjirouzumaki144 2 роки тому +2

      And he had to wall Larson (someone who actually has talent) to even try to lose a championship... he always was just in the way

    • @MarsRacingNetwork
      @MarsRacingNetwork 2 роки тому +1

      @@tanjirouzumaki144 lol man has won every major race,has a ton of poles, and is almost always in the top 10 in points.Usually does it with subpar equipment too.You’re telling me the RCR car from 2014 had any business being in the chase,let alone the top 2?Cmon man drives the wheels off of whatever he gets into

    • @NathanChambers
      @NathanChambers Рік тому +1

      He was never really championship material. He was a good (but not great) driver and at one point amazing at qualifying, but NEVER future champion material!

  • @hoyle7780
    @hoyle7780 2 роки тому

    Your videos keep getting better & better man!

  • @jamiefookes1579
    @jamiefookes1579 2 роки тому +3

    Jeff Gordon exposed how terrible the current Cup is scored. He'd have at least 8 Cup titles on points alone

  • @ryanbird4796
    @ryanbird4796 2 роки тому

    Bro your videos are str8 fire! Thanks for sharing

  • @survivor3124
    @survivor3124 2 роки тому +1

    I read this somewhere and it sums up the NASCAR playoff so well. A driver can win the first 35 races, come in second in the last race and not win a championship.

  • @brockstar1461
    @brockstar1461 2 роки тому +10

    The system will be exposed if Kyle Larson or Denny Hamlin doesn't win. these guys have been 1-2 in the points all year and if one of them doesn't win it is a travesty. Larson has the wins and Denny has the consistency. One or both of them could blow an engine or just have anything out of their control happen and all of a sudden they are done. One race should not determine a champion. There are so many variables. I didn't like the 10 man 10 race chase but it is way better than this.

    • @tylersmith4265
      @tylersmith4265 2 роки тому +1

      Not the first time that has happened

    • @brockstar1461
      @brockstar1461 2 роки тому +2

      @@tylersmith4265 sure but at least in the past you could've said you had the whole year to make up those points and couldn't do it.

  • @Tayd0g
    @Tayd0g 2 роки тому +3

    This makes it more sad to see him lose more and more now, knowing there is an absolutely stellar driver in there somewhere.

  • @e93sports80
    @e93sports80 2 роки тому +4

    Championship Seasons: Jimmie Johnson 2007
    Gone Too Soon: John Nemechek
    Bad Seasons: Andy Houston 2001

  • @bradlygray1974
    @bradlygray1974 2 роки тому +10

    Could we get a career recap?
    Maybe start doing segment that attempts to paint the picture of where these guys stand all time. For example, where does Rocketman rank against guys like Kasey Kahne, Jeff Burton, Biffle, Dale Jr, and a few more? Do these names rank in the top 50 all time?

    • @soulfly3438
      @soulfly3438 2 роки тому +2

      LOL hows anyone influenfer gonna be ranking drivers without upsetting half there fan base. this seems pointless. whats to gain. it only brings hate. people only respect there own list.

    • @bradlygray1974
      @bradlygray1974 2 роки тому +3

      @@soulfly3438 I believe we are all mature enough to look at someone's list and rather than get upset about it, have a conversation that leads for more respect for a particular driver. Having debates like this can introduce someone to a new perspective on a subject. For example maybe a new driver has never seen old tapes of Jeff Burton. Having a look through the vid comments and seeing people ranking him highly, might make them curious enough to look up 90s nascar races. By starting debate, we only grow the passion for the sport. Spotting difference of opinion has never been a bad thing.

    • @j9vlikz683
      @j9vlikz683 2 роки тому

      @@bradlygray1974 estoy me acuerdo

  • @showtime7877
    @showtime7877 2 роки тому

    Whoaaa I had no idea about this !! This is fire dude !! 🔥 🔥

  • @kg0173
    @kg0173 2 роки тому +3

    2014, 2015 and 2016 are my favorite NASCAR seasons of recent times

  • @vg452
    @vg452 2 роки тому +8

    The better question:
    How would we evaluate Chase Elliott’s legacy as a two-time champ under this system if he wins?
    He would not the most dominant driver in either year, would only have one win on an oval at best, and would have fewer wins than even Terry Labonte after the 1996 title (13/14 vs. 18).

    • @kingofrunescapepking
      @kingofrunescapepking 2 роки тому

      But Chase has raced fewer seasons in Cup total than Terry raced between his titles

    • @kyleraymer5581
      @kyleraymer5581 2 роки тому +2

      Last season he was not as far as wins go. But looking at his drivers rating, average running position, most fastest laps and others and he was seen as the best driver last season. He just had some of the worst luck if you remember. I think what last season did was interesting. The playoff actually allowed for the best driver to win when the old system wouldn't have. This season on the other hand he is statistically the 3rd best driver, but really Larson, Hamlin and him are very close on paper. Again through the wins don't show it.

    • @coppha3037
      @coppha3037 2 роки тому

      @@kyleraymer5581 the playoff system got the championship 4 right this year

    • @wymple09
      @wymple09 2 роки тому +1

      @@coppha3037 And it's worthless if Larson doesn't win this one race, after winning over twice as many as his nearest competitor all year. Just like Gordon got screwed out of a totally dominant year.

    • @driverslqqk7940
      @driverslqqk7940 2 роки тому

      Yeah but look at it from NASCAR's point of view he's the Golden boy the fans favorite they seem to favor Elliot because Elliot brings in the fan base they'll protect him anyway they can to be sure he can get in and win what a fluke last year that he wins on the last race wrong they got some politic problems in NASCAR it's pretty obvious it'll be interesting to see who figures out the new car faster than anybody else I will say Hendrix will do it simply because they have more money than anybody and money wins races.

  • @toddmanger7194
    @toddmanger7194 2 роки тому +1

    ill always love ryan newman. We had to pick a person to do a book report on in the 7th grade. The school library had books on newman and I did a book report on him in 2005. That book report needs some updating lol

  • @mrcoconuts809
    @mrcoconuts809 2 роки тому +4

    I was SO CRUSHED when Newman didn’t win, I was so close to true NASCAR happiness

  • @johnboy4025
    @johnboy4025 2 роки тому +5

    He did expose it! But we know Brian France clung to his precious playoffs!

  • @LouisClark4
    @LouisClark4 2 роки тому +18

    The playoffs are a joke. A driver can win the first 35 races. Finish 2nd in the last race and still lose the championship. It's a gimmick. Kevin Harvick has been the sacrifice for probably 3 different years

    • @j9vlikz683
      @j9vlikz683 2 роки тому

      Damn you just threw Gordon fans under the bus

    • @LouisClark4
      @LouisClark4 2 роки тому +4

      @@j9vlikz683 Correct me if I'm wrong, but under the Winston format Gordon would have won 3 more championships. Kevin Harvick would have 4 championships to his name. Yes that would make Gordon have 7, but Harvick would have won the most since 04

    • @j9vlikz683
      @j9vlikz683 2 роки тому

      @@LouisClark4 yeah but still *Pain.*

  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks 2 роки тому +5

    Matt Crafton did that in 2019 when he won the championship so. But I get what your saying. He nearly won the championship without winning a race. In this formats first season no less. If Larson somehow gets screwed out of a championship on sunday everyone is going to be pissed. And NASCAR will just brush it off and say “We like what we’re seeing.”

  • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
    @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 2 роки тому +16

    Oh, by the way. From what I was told. A fan asked Ryan Newman at New Hampshire (2018, I think) how he was at RCR, he said that it was miserable.
    To be fair, RCR was still garbage at that time despite Austin Dillon winning the 2018 Daytona 500. I think RCR has improved a bit. Not as much, but way better than 2018.
    So there’s your (not-so) fun fact of the video, ladies and gentlemen

    • @hetterman10r9
      @hetterman10r9 2 роки тому +1

      Reddick and Dillon have been 11th-13th in points all season. and Reddick has competed for multiple wins this season

    • @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT
      @IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT 2 роки тому

      @@hetterman10r9 Tyler Reddick has been the best thing ever in RCR since forever

    • @rocknrollresignation93
      @rocknrollresignation93 2 роки тому

      Andy Petree and Reddick have been huge steps in the right direction for RCR

    • @dantheman340
      @dantheman340 2 роки тому +1

      It also doesn't help that the only reason Dillon won is by hooking someone into the wall

  • @AnthonyAnimate
    @AnthonyAnimate Рік тому +1

    The main thing wrong with the systyem is that in theory one driver could win the first 35 races yet lose it to a driver who barely made it to each round of the playoffs and untimately didnt win any races.

  • @Pen2ke
    @Pen2ke 2 роки тому +6

    The fact that he nearly exposed it in it's first year is just sad..

  • @Yutter89
    @Yutter89 2 роки тому +3

    Having not watching NASCAR since about 2007 and recently getting back into it, the new systems make no sense too me. I understand that they're trying to make it more exciting, but I think the best fix was more track variety than dog legged ovals for the long run appeal.

  • @your_boywife
    @your_boywife 2 роки тому +3

    Every year this race is brought up, and every year. It stings

  • @thereluctanthireling
    @thereluctanthireling 2 роки тому +2

    This is even more relevant given the results of the Xfinity race yesterday.

  • @bradf1467
    @bradf1467 2 роки тому +4

    Yes, he did expose the system, if Newman had finished in 2nd place ahead of the other three championship contenders, it would of shown that winning wasn't necessary. Which shows that consistent mediocre drivers can win a championship by beating the system. The worst thing about the nascar playoff system is that other teams get to play in the playoffs.

  • @smello76
    @smello76 2 роки тому +1

    I remember that Phoenix race. Was so pissed at Newman at the time

  • @johnrubino8937
    @johnrubino8937 2 роки тому +1

    I hadn't really noticed it until the beginning of the video but it looks like the splitter may have turned Rocket Man into Average Man.

  • @chuckwhitson654
    @chuckwhitson654 2 роки тому +2

    wonder how many times a "debris release mechanism" has been used over the years??? Seems to always show up/ called out at the perfect time

  • @briangriffinfamilyguyfan81
    @briangriffinfamilyguyfan81 2 роки тому +10

    I miss when Newman was this good😭

    • @soderquist1245
      @soderquist1245 2 роки тому +3

      Ever since Daytona 2020 he has not been the same :(

    • @darthhull85
      @darthhull85 2 роки тому +1

      @@soderquist1245 it’s been a lot longer than that.

  • @papadragon695
    @papadragon695 2 роки тому +12

    That’s the day Newman became one of my favorite drivers of all time

  • @jawmedia7575
    @jawmedia7575 2 роки тому

    I was one of the 16 people at the 2013 brickyard 400. Nice win for Newman

  • @HoltAircraft
    @HoltAircraft 2 роки тому +3

    They need to get rid of the playoffs!

  • @Thegreatdeer53
    @Thegreatdeer53 2 роки тому +1

    1:47 I just realized the 95 almost flipped

  • @MegaMr46
    @MegaMr46 2 роки тому +1

    Can you do “Consistency Triumphed: Daniel Hemric 2021”? Since he has the last ditch win, so much for “Exposing the System”.

  • @snappy452
    @snappy452 2 роки тому +17

    Hemric is gonna do it this weekend. Winning it all without winning at all.

    • @michaelfavre8577
      @michaelfavre8577 2 роки тому +4

      Well,he did it.Before the race even started the tv guys suggested that very possibility.

  • @SomeGuy-qy9qh
    @SomeGuy-qy9qh 2 роки тому

    just have to say I love the channel name

  • @chrisarban2229
    @chrisarban2229 2 роки тому +1

    THATs why Nascar needs to get rid of these silly play off system

  • @taylorbertrim7625
    @taylorbertrim7625 Рік тому

    Johnson..... "Feel better about yourself" LMFAO. That was actually awesome. "This is going no where, just go" LMFAO 😂

  • @JoshRandall187
    @JoshRandall187 2 роки тому +1

    I think how the championship 4 drivers always having the best four cars kind of exposes another system in my opinion. NASCAR allows them to bend the rules quite a bit.

    • @The52car
      @The52car 2 роки тому +1

      This right here... happens way too often (every year) to be a coincidence.

  • @RSDX99
    @RSDX99 2 роки тому +4

    Does anybody remember when the stands were almost full at every track? That was before the playoff format. A real season champ is the team with the most points at the end of the season

    • @mitchellbaker9434
      @mitchellbaker9434 2 роки тому

      As someone who has watched NASCAR for about 50 years now. I hate to say it, but NASCAR will never be as popular as it once was. These drivers don't have the personality of the drivers in the 70s and 80s, because, especially in Cup, they're all millionaire businessmen now with loads of sponsors and very little chance to be much more than arrogant prima donnas that complain about their race cars all race long even when they're leading the race. Added to that is the fact that no one wants to say out loud: it simply isn't as dangerous anymore. The added safety of the drivers is of course great in one respect. But when you see these horrific crashes and the driver is being interviewed two minutes later without a scratch on him, there's that element that's not there anymore, and that is what drew a lot of people to NASCAR.

    • @carlfrye1566
      @carlfrye1566 2 роки тому

      A lot of old NASCR fans are either too old to attend races, or gone(died).
      NASCAR's best years were when there was a huge fan favorite(s) running.
      Petty, Pearson, Junior Johnson, The Allison's, Bill Elliot, Kulwicki, Earnhardt, Gordon, etc brought fans to the track.
      NASCAR isn't as track fan friendly as it used to be, one problem is the start times are for TV and going to a race means you will be heading home at 6 or 7 instead of 4 or 5, and many fans travel to races and have to work Monday.

  • @dizzlef3760
    @dizzlef3760 2 роки тому

    Nice work on the video

  • @evanwilliams6406
    @evanwilliams6406 2 роки тому

    Matt Crafton did in the Truck Series though as he won no races in his championship season a couple of years back...

  • @jeremyanderson1139
    @jeremyanderson1139 2 роки тому +1

    I actually met Ryan Newman once at a promotional event involving the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile

  • @tescoshortage
    @tescoshortage 9 місяців тому

    I think seasons like Newman’s 2014, Busch’s 2015 and Edwards’ 2016 spurred the addition of stage points and playoff points, emphasizing regular season performance. This makes the championship fight more “legitimate”, however legitimate you can make the Playoffs.
    2017: Truex _dominates_ the field and wins the Championship.
    2018: Logano hangs with the “Big Three” and wins the Championship.
    2019: Kyle Busch wins the Championship and doesn’t miss a single race.
    2020 is the exception. That was Kevin Harvick’s championship.
    2021: Kyle Larson has the best statistical season since Gordon in ‘98 and wins the Championship.
    2022: Logano does exactly the same thing he did in 2018 and wins the Championship again.

  • @stultsn
    @stultsn 2 роки тому

    Great video man

  • @billalvarez319
    @billalvarez319 2 роки тому +10

    With this “new” nascar it’s a wonder anyone watches. Lucky dog rule, no practice or qualifying, competition yellows, yellow flags for stages. Especially on road courses. Not racing at all.

    • @onionhead5780
      @onionhead5780 2 роки тому +1

      I couldn’t agree more. NASCAR died the same day Dale Earnhardt died.

    • @specialingu
      @specialingu 2 роки тому +1

      I don't mind the lucky dog rule, but the stages thing leaves me cold ❄

  • @whalesequence
    @whalesequence 2 роки тому +4

    Hemric almost broke it last night, still only won with 1 win lol

  • @johnrunion7258
    @johnrunion7258 2 роки тому +1

    The format now is "team sport".When it returns to one builder/owner,one car,and heads up racing,I'll be watching again.

  • @jackkeithley4934
    @jackkeithley4934 2 роки тому +2

    We would not be looking at this, the way we do if Rick Hendrick, made the call at Martinsville that Dale Jr to pull over to give Jeff Gordon the win, thus confirming him in the final 4.

    • @majestic-_-cow
      @majestic-_-cow 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, but let's be honest Clint Bowyer is the reason Gordon didn't advance

    • @jackkeithley4934
      @jackkeithley4934 2 роки тому

      @@majestic-_-cow That was during a beat and bang type of season where Clint and Gordon did not see eye to eye. I am talking of a teammate, not letting a teammate by to get a win which was needed. Dale Jr was not going to win the championship. A win for him was as pointless as tits on a bull. He should not have won, Gordon needed that win.

    • @JJNITROFAN
      @JJNITROFAN 2 роки тому

      Team orders suck. Every driver should be racing to win, or why bother being out there?

    • @patmcgroin1547
      @patmcgroin1547 11 місяців тому

      ​@jackkeithley4934 I was thinking the same thing when that happened, but Dale never won at Martinsville so I couldn't be mad at him. Texas race is what screwed him with Keselowski.

    • @jackkeithley4934
      @jackkeithley4934 11 місяців тому

      @@patmcgroin1547 It does not matter if he never won there. Rick Hendrick can give him the share of the winners purse and the trophy, but Gordon should of been given that win by his team.

  • @amrak5028
    @amrak5028 2 роки тому +2

    If Only, Brian France would have left alone the system his Father, and Grandfather built ....

    • @jameswhiteside1506
      @jameswhiteside1506 2 роки тому

      Agree . First generation builds it . Second generation grows it . Third generation blows it.

  • @tuftyterror983
    @tuftyterror983 2 роки тому +1

    I was wondering why all the side skirts were bent, they I realize this is when flaring the corner of the sideskirt was popular.

  • @SCVM__
    @SCVM__ 2 роки тому +3

    The Champion that never was, as one of the Last Old School Racers He will be Missed.
    The random nature and couple of Phonies that have won in the recent years are telling.

  • @jinglebell61
    @jinglebell61 2 роки тому +1

    Future uploads: Not A Bust: Phil Parsons and Championship Seasons: Terry Labonte 1996.