Ricky Steamboat on Why He Left WWE in 87?
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- Ricky Steamboat on Why He Left WWE in 87?
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My favorite wrestler of all time! Won the IC title on my birthday at WMIII and got the pin at the exact moment I turned 13.
Ricky Steamboat is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time!!!
Ricky the Dragon Steamboat was pure 🔥
To me, he was AJ Styles BEFORE AJ Styles: he was so smooth, so technical, he made it looked like he had been doing it for a thousand years.
Look at the guys they put him with: Muraco, Macho Man, Flair. That's how good he was.
Steamboat and Tito Santana were my favorites. Along with JYD
you can tell Ricky lived a clean life...liquor, drugs...he looks healthy...NICE!
I know! He looks like the typical next door neighbor.
You made the right choice, Ricky. You won other championships and proved your worth in spades. Your matches against Ric Flair, in Sting's Squadron, etc. are some of tbe best work I've ever seen. You can't make up lost time with your new baby. Being a Dad is far more valuable than any belt they can put on you.
Yup, won the World Title in the NWA in 1989.
Very true, Ms. Summers🙂👍
The match is one of the best ever but meanwhile his kid works at Kroger's
I still remember watching that taping of honky beating him for the belt. Biggest shock to my young 8 year old self. What a let down after WM3
I remember being so pissed at that!
I was crushed. Steamboat was my wrestler...Savage was my older brothers. I thought he was going to hold the belt for a long time too
@@tslomka6272 same. I couldn’t believe it. Still pisses me off. Gave it to that two bit knock off elvis. He drew heat at least.
Honky was the worst wrestler ever, slap in the face to Steamboat , having to drop the belt to him.
I was pissed as a kid and shocked. I actually was hoping Jack Tunney stepped in lol
Ricky steamboat did some epic matches with the WWF and WCW. The match against randy savage at Wrestlemania 3 and ric flair at WCW.
Ricky Steamboat was my favorite.
Vince did not always do what was best for business. It was a "no brainer" to have a Savage vs Steamboat rematch at Wrestlemania 4.
Hulk was leaving to film no holds barred. They used to have a 90 day non compete clause and they could strip the title. Not like nowadays when you can hand the rock the title to leave with for a year never defending it
Great movie BTW
Hulk Hogan is a Legend
Steamboat was a mid carder at best
@@romans52345-cy3tq Funny you say that..sure, Andre/Hogan sold the show (WM3), but Savage/Steamboat stole the show!
Not too sure if Savage/Steamboat rematch was even considered for WM4. After dropping the IC title to Steamboat, Savage took some time off, when he returned, they were prepping Savage to win the WWF World Title at WM4 (Hogan was leaving to film a movie.)
@@TheHaloRed Lol Savage and Steamboat stole shit, that's revisionist Dave Meltzer bullshit, WrestleMania III WAS Hulk Andre
I had a subscription to WWF magazine as a kid and I remember them printing an article with Ricky holding his son and saying that he was taking time off or had been taking time off because of his young family. I remember thinking that was pretty cool because it showed the human side of a WWF "Character". He always seemed like a sensible person and cut from a different cloth than many wrestlers of his era.
Having Steamboat lose to a stale Greg Valentine and denying us a a rematch with Savage at WrestleMania 4 was a crime.
@@jeremypassmore7019 I agree but by 1988 he was stuck in the mid card. Savage avenging his loss the previous year on the way to the championship would have made a great story.
@@ninjacape I think they didn't want a divided crowd, though, for that match because some people would've booed Savage if he beat Steamboat. Much better to have Savage run through a host of heels on his way to the title.
@@KYExtempernah. They could have done it easily. Have it be a tight match… give steamboat the dominant looking win but then at the last second it’s savage with a small package reversal! After… steamboat being the good guy, good sport, congratulates savage and savage shakes his hand. Win-win.
Made my parents drive 250 miles to take me to a city to watch wm4 on close circuit theater. Steamboat was my favorite and of course, first thing I saw when they showed the draw - savage rematch. When that didn’t happen… and the other good matchups fizzled… what a disappointing night.
@@datacipher I understand your thought process but typically babyface-babyface matches divide the audience's loyalty. It's why Vince has always hated them.
Vince had the goat in steamboat and blew it.....
The greatest wrestling match of all time is Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair. That long match was unbelievably awesome!
Greatest match ever in the history of pro wrestling was Ricky Steamboat vs Bret Hart March 8th 1986. Its uploaded on you tube. They could have had it on a pay per view.
Ohh yes!!!
Vince: "Well pal, that's before you and Savage decided to have a better match than Hogan & Andre! We can't have that, pal!"
Vince: “I can spare you for 9 days”
The Dragon: “How does forever sound?”
Ricky was pure class
Then he went to the NWA/WCW and became a world champion
Should’ve had the IC belt for longer
We didn’t want to leave the belt dormant for 2 weeks.
How times have changed in WWE. Now they put the belt on part timers who show up a few times a year or on people who show up to TV once a month and don’t wrestle on house shows.
Steamboat should’ve been WWF champion and won it in the main event of Wrestlemania
Wasn't he supposed to lose the rematch to macho in the Tourny wm4?
Two things that Vince screwed up, disrespecting Ricky Steamboat and having Hogan vs. Andre Part 2 in 1988 just prior to WM4..... absolute disasters!
Absolute disaster yup, 33 million viewers on NBC on a FRIDAY night.. Absolute Disaster
@@romans52345-cy3tqThe viewers are fine. But that second match was really bad.
Ricky Steamboat Mid Atlantic TV Champion , Mid Atlantic Tag Team Champion , NWA Tag Team Champion 🏆 NWA Unitied States Champion 🏆 NWA Cadilac Champion 🏆 Toronto.
NWA Heavy Weight Champion 🏆 WCW World Heavy Weight Champion, WCW TV Champion 🏆 WCW United States Champion 🏆
Never was given the opportunity in WWF was on the 1st, the 2nd Wrestle Mania before Wrestle Mania .
Twice the Wrestler as the Honky Tonk Man!!
Great historic matches with Flair Valentine Slaughter Kornodle , Jones , Piper, Windham Luger, Briscoe Funks Snuka ! great Tag partner with Youngblood Douglas ,
The Chicago Bulls song to make wrestling so entertaining.
Even though I am a fan of the Honky Tonk Man, it was a real let down seeing Steamboat loose the title shortly after his epic match at Wrestlemania 3
And the way honky tonk man won. Even after he won they never showed a replay with him holding the ropes. Of course he did the samething at wm3 against jake roberts. It worked out good though as honky was a great heel and he was suppose to drop to roberts but he got injured or something so he didnt win the belt.
LOSE
Lose not loose.
Why does everybody on the internet get this wrong?😂
Yup. No build up, no storyline, nothing. Just having Steamboat dropping the belt to HTM at a TV taping was disrepect.
It sucks after putting in such a great match with Macho that showed a real struggle to win the belt that he had to drop it so easily and to Honky of all people.
I guarantee Hogan was in Vince's ear on that move. After WM3 i heard they had an autograph session and they all ran to Steamboat while leaving Hogan hanging. If true, it was jealousy that Steamboat was stealing his spotlight.
How he survived that concrete DDT I’ll never know. Man is made of steel.
My favorite wrestler.
I have more love and respect for Ricky … for what he did with the WWF they could have waited for that men for two weeks he is in my opinion one of great in ring wrestlers in history… way better than the Honkytonk man
Another legend that Vince dropped the ball with.
Ricky. Was one hell of a worker. Loved that savage match. At. # 3. 👋
I was shocked when you left WWF after Wrestlemania 4 . You did a lot better down south . You became the World Heavyweight Championship in 1989 .
Wow, that's crazy. He was my fave, followed by Macho.
Few in that era actually were worthy following.
why is ricky looking so sad and down , not a ric flair type, as a kid he was one of the greatest good guys!!
In a time when most people's favorite wrestler was hogan, rhodes, flair, sting ect I was pulling for the dragon. When he lost the belt and didnt come back to reclaim it from HTM i bailed on wwf. Thank God i did otherwise i would have missed the steamboat/flair trilogy which was miles ahead of anything wwf was doing.
Ricky the Dragon vs Randy Macho man was one of the best matches EVER!
Steamboat's disco theme pretty much sums up his release in wwf. Listen to the lyrics. Family man
WWE still don't know what's good for business.
I was heartbroken when Steamboat left wwf
I just couldnt understand it
he was like the bruce Lee version of wwe
Can we invest on a mic?😂
The WWF missed an opportunity for the dragon. Then he went to WCW and became the world heavyweight champion
Hitting him with the 6 months is basically telling Vince he can be released!!
It would seem like it was Steamboat’s way of saying, “Take this job and shove it.”
To be fair that was in the day when there was only 2 ppvs.
@@johnyang1731 PPVs has nothing to do with it, Steamboat wasn’t willing to run the Intercontinental schedule, so he went home….period.
@q2rawgaming247 he already lost his title before he left. He wanted family time. Vince said no, steamboat left.
He was supposed to drop the title to Butch Reed but Reed no showed lol
Vince gave Steamboat the shtt end of the stick in 1991 to pay him back.
He sure did. Rumor is, Vin Man promised him a run w/ the world belt too. Then he made him as close to a literal Dragon as possible, and had him feud w/ Skinner
even jobbed to skinner in last weak, horrible@@PontFlair
The Wrestlers who say " I was supposed to have it" or " I don't want to drop it" for this or that don't realize one major thing. ITS NOT THERE BELT, ITS THE COMPANIES! This Means it Vince"s ,Verne's ,Crockett's or whoever. They have to get over this fact.
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Missing 2 weeks of WWF TV was nothing in those days considering they shot almost a months worth of TV during their live tapings. Steamboat could've missed 3 weeks and no one would've known the difference. Vince did Steamboat dirty...
The WWF could have quite literally given Ricky his time off, had him drop to Wayne, then regain the strap upon his return from paternity leave. We’ve certainly had shorter reigns than that.
They did just fine without doing that. The business was a lot harder back then as far as keeping spots. Ricky probably would never have been World Champion in WWE so it worked out.
This had to be an embarrassing for steamboat to lose to honky-tonk man !!!!
I always liked the steamer. But it's Vince's way or the door.
vines a bullshiter though he makes promises then backtracks
I think he prefers to be called The Ricker.
It's a known fact that Vince McMahon is a gay man and I guess Ricky steamboat was not his type of guy what he allows the restless to do and what will they get away with taking kids shows with them the stuff that he does is tragic it's just that it's not out there at one time they put a show on and they had Bruno sammartino even admit to that and Vince was the head of a steroid organization that was giving the restless steroids at this is an evil evil man I think people that watch WWE
I believe more that Vince didn't want the IC title on a baby-face and wanted to make the switch to a heel especially given that Hogan (and then Savage) was top on with the World title. I can see Steamboat with the IC title when Savage turned heel leading in to WrestleMania 5 but having 2 babyfaces with the titles doesn't make sense. I can see Vince logic. Promising Steamboat a year long run probably wasn't the best thing to do as I'd imagine things behind the scenes in WWE can turn on a dime and plans change. Ultimately I can understand Steamboat frustrations, it sounds similar to the frustrations that Bret Hart would have later on.
steamboat muraco was a great feud.
steamboat savage WrestleMania 3 match was unreal.
steamboat was a solid good guy. He seemed to have the basics. Would have been interesting to see steamboat as a bad guy.
When steamboat came back to the WWF in late 1987 it seemed that the WWF lost all interest in him and he dropped down the card fast.
You seen how they squashed honky for the warrior. He had the IC belt a while and lost in under a minute
2 weeks? That's b******t what they did to Steamboat!
That's how vindictive Vince is
It was almost over 35 years ago who cares now?
@@chadk890 Then why did you even bother responding to my comment then?
Met Steamboat at a ROH show. He criticized my handshake as too firm.
Brother, he is an old man. You seem like a young man filled with testosterone, so please don't have disdain in your heart for the legend. 😊
Freakin McMahons !
Is he talking to a couple of guys delivering groceries?
That's what I was thinking. They are either bagging groceries or wrapping Christmas presents. If only they could make more noise while doing the interview. I guess any clown can have a podcast/UA-cam show. It wont be a long show cause people will need to hear all that noise during the show and they will be moving on. Someone asked why Ricky seemed so down. Well he just realized what he has fallen two doing a podcast with the Bag Boys live from Joe's Market.
How long has the Universal title been dormant for?
Smh, Vince couldn't tolerate 2 weeks without the IC champion?
You don't look your age!! Go Rickey!
This guy looks like he's just trying to have a cup of coffee in the big time
...Hogan defended the title maybe every 2 months!!!...
He left in 1988 right after Wrestlemania
Roman Reigns has gone months without defending his title
and that is relevant how ?
Who cares I don't care about wrestling today it's crap
@@donjohn2695 you must care enough to post you dont care
You either had to be in Vince's pocket or Pat Patersons boy toy to have favors given to you.
From Rick Steamboat to Honky Tonk Man
From PURE CLASS to PURE ASS!!
Rick was Better in the NWA ANYWAYS!!
I liked Hawaiian Punch Ricky Better than The Dragan Ricky!!
Yeah the schedule back then was insane and almost not worth the money. Like what is the point of making 100's of thousands if you can't enjoy it or ever be with your family. "Dormant" for 2 weeks is ridiculous I'd actually agree with Vince if it was two months especially back then but 2 weeks? Yeah no
Steamboat staying in WWF was good for money, but WWF didn't know how to use a great wrestler like steamboat, NWA did.
I could've sworn he asked vince for 6 weeks.
From what I've read, he was having marital problems with his wife and she wanted him at home that's why he dropped the belt. 🤔
Ric Flair had briefly mentioned that in an old podcast episode. He said that Steamboat's wife at the time Bonnie was basically his agent & was the cause of his problems. Flair also said that he never forgave her for dry snitching on him one time about his partying ways(the Kamikaze's , the robe exposure. etc} to people that he had great rapport with
I thought he's son had just been born and he didn't want to miss out on seeing him that's why he wanted Time off
@@donjohn2695 It only takes one day to see the kid, then get back to work.
What Bonnie says goes 😂
@@willshad lol or better get don’t have em
Sounds like Vince was just being an a-hole. Making him drop the IC belt for asking off for 2 weeks. That's pretty harsh. People take off like 3 months now when they have kids at most companies. Vince seemed to be petty that way where he would play games to pay people back when they didn't do what he wanted and didn't put making money for the WWF as the #1 life priority. To show them that they were replaceable. If a wrestler was gone for 2-3 weeks I am not sure who would even notice. They could even pre-tape interviews or promos to show on tv.
He also seemed to not utilize guys who came over from the NWA/WCW because they came from his competitor. He didn't properly utilize Arn and Tully, Dusty Rhodes, The Road Warriors, or even Flair when he came over. They may have enjoyed a brief moment in the sun but he ultimately phased them all out or never used their talents to the fullest. At least in my opinion.
There has to be more to the story than this, and there definitely is. Let's not forget that Steamboat played hot potato with the NWA and WCW as well.
Back then, men just didn't do that..only women were allowed time off.
Point of order here, the champions were only required to defend the title every 30 days, Gorilla Monsoon made sure to remind us of that all the time. Therefore there was no reason why steamboat couldn't have taken the two weeks off. Case closed.
@@willshad Yeah, I get that. But if he really only wanted 2 weeks off then I'm pretty sure he could have granted that easily without any games. Fans wouldn't even know he was gone.
But if he wanted several months off then I totally get it. I'm not sure why he didn't let him hold the title for a long time he was super popular after his WM 3 match. The little kids loved him he was a true babyface. You never know about the politics going on in the background with WWF at the time though.
@@STONESGAM Obviously Vince wasn't very high on him to begin with. The guys that he likes get away with much more than that.
yea he left after wrestlemania 4
He disappeared from wwf to didn’t he
Funny that Ricky couldn't talk 2 weeks off for the birth of his first child, yet Vince allowed guys like Brock and Roman to go months without defending the title. Vince was a genius in some ways, and a total moron in others.
I get your point but the business was ran way different back then than it is now. Like night and day
Ricky should have known better.
But not same without him
People need to understand that belts are a prop.
If they're just props, why does every wrestler say if your goal is not to be the World Champion, you are in the wrong business? Explain that to us if you will.
@@ericmarks6322 same reason they want to be in the hall of fame which is a work.
@@PHill1960 i've never heard any wrestler claim to want to be in the hall of fame, so your argument is weak at best.
That wife of his
Thats sad for the dragon but Honky went on to have a nice long run as the IC champion until he dropped it to the Ultimate Warrior.
In a one minute squash match.
You put your family 1st nothing wrong that . The powers that be even though they said sure no problem they had other ideas..
Dormat, lol. Reigns takes months .
Ricky Steamboat standup person!
Sorry, Ricky Steamboat top 10 wrestlers ...
STEAMBOAT WAS NOT A VERY GOOD WORKER ! HE WOULD ALWAYS DISAPPEAR FOR VERY LONG PERIODS OF TIME AND THEN SUDDENLY RE - APPEAR ! NOT CHAMPION MATERIAL !
A lot of interrupting
Steamboat tended to fall asleep during matches, also, when they invested so much and put the strap on him, he leaves to tend to his mewling kid.
They were right to push him to the side in 88, they should have made him job to Mario Mancini
Invested so much? How much did they invest in sending half the WWF to rehab over and over and over again?
Savage vs HTM was a better draw than Steamboat vs anybody.