The actual problem (s) with the Doc Rivers Bucks
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
- The Bucks are just 6-7 under coach Doc Rivers after starting 30-13 with Adrian Griffin. In this enhanced segment from the Thinking Basketball podcast, Ben and Cody break down why Milwaukee is struggling -- it is the new coaching hire? The synergy between Damian Lillard and Giannis Antetokounmpo? Or something else?
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Pup in the background trying to get his takes in, but Ben and Cody aren't having it!
Bro pooch had some hot takes dunno why they weren't giving him mic time.
@@BR-re7oz Pooch is done with the Bucks and wants to tell us why. Now I need to know.
She's always going on about "let me have more airtime" and "I have a lot to say about squirrels."
@@ThinkingBasketball the squirrels scramble offense has thrown many a defensive hounds off their game. Do not sleep on the squirrels scramble offense.
@@ThinkingBasketball she is definitely in the right hounding you about more screen time. You guys have egregiously ignored important context such as squirrels caught per 36 and bark rate % for too long 🐾
The Drama of the Bucks has overshadowed how good Giannis has been this year
Is he still refusing to set screens for Dame?
@@ethanjohnson4143Nets? Hater
@@ethanjohnson4143 what? Khris has been on minutes restriction and has been in & out of the lineup because of the injury wtf are you talking about? And brook has regressed significantly because of his age
Idk I feel like everyone who watches the NBA is well aware of how good he's been. He's gonna finish top 5 in MVP again.
I think what's been overshadowed is how Dame's presence positively affects his teammates on offense. The focus has been on Dame's shooting struggles, the defense, and the lack of chemistry on Dame/Giannis PnR,, but a big reason why Giannis is shooting 62% is because of Lillard.
The extra space allows him to get to the rim more easily and defenses can't load up in quite the same way with Dame and Beasley out there. And to his credit Giannis is taking advantage. He's settling less than he has since at least his first MVP season, he's playing off his teammates more, and his short mid-range game is better.
It’s not the drama of the box. It’s the drama of the average basketball, fan and media. The bucks currently are seven and two since their first win with dark and look like one of the best teams hands-down right now.
Oh wow that last part about the Bucks' offense being 1 Dimensional outside of the two creators, I never thought of that. That's a really good point and now I can't unnotice it. It's definitely going to bit them in the playoffs without some adjustments
Yep its all about not giving defense any good options. All they have to do is keep Giannis and Dame from driving and the Bucks have nothing
khris fixes that when he plays
@@LigerHD Right, but an aging inside out scorer isn't exactly who you want to be your number 3.
@@noconsent when your top 2 can give you 50+ each any given night khris is exactly what you need
It was worse before Dame got there. It used to be just spread out and let Giannis drive.
If your team hires Doc as the coach, your team is run by insane individuals.
You misspelled "rookie head coach."
But yeah, Doc ain't gonna fix that. But it's also roster: their D was elite with Jrue. Dame is a matador defender. Plus, Lopez and Middleton are simply that much older. Their window closed. Coach ain't going to change that.
Since he’s been the coach their defense has been top 5 and they’ve gone from last in transition defense to first lol. People will catch on in the next 5 games
@@georgepoly4842you’ll catch on in the playoffs 😅
@@Mr.ByrnesAnd it will be the players fault just like last year but nice try though🤣👍🏾
Idiots say this..doc has a ring. 20 coaches in league dont have ring
After name-dropping videos with titles like “How (adjective) is (noun) ACTUALLY?” on the last podcast, we get one from y’all! LETS GO
The last point about players other than Giannis and Dame not driving to the basket is on point. You can't have a mountain like Brook Lopez that attempts more threes than drives. That opens up the shooters like Dame and Beasly so much.
Pooch in the background had some hot takes. He a gud boi give him a treat!
This is by far the best basketball channel on UA-cam, literally always am looking forward to the next post
They 've been playing great lately. Especially on defense. It looks they have figured it out.
Ben i mean this with the greatest of respects - based off your voice, I thought you didn't have a lot of hair.... don't ask why.. that's just what I pictured.
Then I see THAT flow. Damn.. you got the voice, you got the hair, you got the ball knowledge.
New kind of triple threat
Bro said hair is part of the analyst triple threat. RIP inside the NBA 😂
Haha and Kevin oconner just posted an article explaining how the Bucks look so much better under doc
What about now?
I wasn't thrilled about Doc either as a Bucks fan. Since the coaching change they are #2 in defense though so.... idk something happened?
How old is this episode? You discussing a game before the break? Sheesh
Lol ya. This vid is ancient.
my dog keeps looking at my computer hearing your dog bark in the background
This chat section proves most of the people don’t watch the bucks. If you don’t think the bucks defense and offensive process have improved while watching the games even after a 8-8 stretch with Doc you are not watching them.
They have #6 ranked defense since he became the coach
Probably noise
What were they before?
@@7seaz-wh3tg 21st
@@7seaz-wh3tg 25th under griffin
@@samhartje723 it’s not. Team were shooting 38% from 3 during the stretch when I checked a couple days ago. And they’ve been playing top notch teams while missing guys (Khris, Brook and Damian).
This is the value of a player coach. I remember when RJ and Channing Frye were asked about who the best coaches they've ever played for in the NBA and the first thing both of them said was it depends on the coaching style. Most fans don't realize that coaches aren't just x and o's guys, some coaches are really good at developing young players (Kenny Atkinson in Brooklyn), some are great at getting the most out of their players (Ty Lue), and some are players coaches like Doc. It probably is more of a mental thing for the bucks, a sense of clarity, that has improved them along with potential schematic changes.
Fun thing to say considering how many former players of his detest him in a very public way, without even going to how many times he's thrown his former players under the bus rather than hold himself accountable.
@@kurgo_That's a fair point, but there are also player's that love him, publicly I know Pierce and Garnett do. From what I've seen Reddick, Rasheed Wallace, and probably Ben Simmons don't like him.
The main point is his experience is giving the Buck's players a sense of clarity that Adrian Griffin couldn't. All the players wanted was a game plan on both ends of the game, consistency. And Rivers offers that, you can even see Damian Lillard looking like a good defender after the all star break even though scheme wise it is mostly the same stuff.
you had the timberwolves game highlights up but didn’t talk about that game, interesting
Nice point of view how the Bucks lacks quality drives to the basket. Actually that is the thing that I noticed to their game when Dame came to the team.
Is there a reason you dont post the whole episode on UA-cam as well?
Bucks have held their opponents to under 100 points in both games since the all star break. the defense has shown a big improvement over earlier in the season. the roster is also not the same, because they traded cam payne for pat bev. a lot of what you say in this video sounds dated by a week or two, or just flat-out wrong.
Exactly they've just won 3 straight including beating the #1 seed in the Western conference on the road.
hornets without lamelo and rozier? Philly without embiid? Lol no impressive. Just like it wasn't impressive when they lost to a literal g-league grizzlies team. I've never seen that happen before.
also held the nuggets and the timberwolves under 100 but keep pushing your dumbass narratives buddy.
@@mambaASI
@@mambaASIceltics lost to the hornets, same team the bucks blew out by 40 and held them to 25 pts in a half.
@@mambaASIheld the nuggets to under 100. Your favourite team ain’t doing that 🤡🤣🤣🫵🏾
Honestly, doc Rivers can blow a 3-0 lead get fired that same off season and for some magical reason coach atop two duo in the league the next season.
It's so weird to see your face while listeting to your voice haha (not that used to), thanks for your awesome basketball analysis and takes.
I have this experience with so many people I listen to!
i have completely different pictures of them in my mind loll
That last take at the end is great! Upset alert in the East come playoff time
Are we watching the same games? These guys are shutting down opponents. They're scoring. You can see the Giannis/Dame chemistry developing. Lots of changes that I do not understand you could be missing.
No they aren't... Sh*tting on Doc and the bucks just equals clicks right now... If you have been watching all year then you see a clear difference
This is a video clip from a podcast they did over a week ago. It's just a little outdated, but I still think a lot of the points they are making are very accurate. Bucks have 2 major flaws: poor point of attack defense and a bunch of role players that don't drive/cut/attack closeouts
why is their record much worse with doc than with other coach?
They hit the toughest part of their schedule right as Doc took over.
@@mambaASI Under Griffin the Bucks had the a top 2 easiest schedule in the league. If anything Doc saved Griffins' reputation because if Griffin was coaching with the same schedule Doc took over he would have been exposed big time.
theres no problem. the players are working, doc system improved the defense and ball movement, We got it.
lol dame can't get his head out of miami. Its over for the bucks
Be quiet lil bro. its always that one dude thats special in the head tryna respond to me.@@mambaASI
@@southerncoastproductions7587 I'm just speaking facts. Guess some people can't handle the truth...
how would you know the truth when dame himself has said thats not true. he wouldve requested out at trade deadline if it was@@mambaASI
That aint no damn truth. Thats an opinion. Just making shit up calling it the truth. Fuck outta here @mambaASI
Welcome back Cody!
Drop coverage is supposed to bait you into coming into the paint but it doesn't usually work because players just take the open jump shot.
Yoooo Cody! Wasup man?! Longtime no see!
Why do you upload your videos hwre and on spotify so late ?
If you don't think this is a different team with Doc you're outing yourself as not actually watching the games
Yup, exactly. They're improved a lot. Not saying Griffin was bad, but Doc just has more experience, and he definitely knows what he's doing.
Bro Doc plays a lot more drop defense than Griffin who tried implementing a bit of a Raptors type blitz defense. You literally said that they were doing drop against the Heat, which is what the personnel preferred versus the blitz Griffin defense. Doc is akin to Bud; he is going to fix the regular season woes and play the correct defense with the personnel, but in the playoffs it will be more based on the players as there won’t be many smart adjustments like Spoel would make. But, with Dame this should be better
Bro, don't defend doc rivers man. Every person that I've known to defend this guy has looked like an idiot at the end of the season. He is the coach that blows 80% of 3-1 leads and 2-0 lead. No matter who he has on his team, this is pretty much what consistently happens every single time his in that situation.
@@MindfulAttraction2.0that is exactly what he's saying
@@MindfulAttraction2.0 Except the time he didn’t…. Those Philly teams were overrated asf, that’s not all on Rivers for those blown leads.
I'm just saying that 80% of 3-1 leads this guy blows no matter who's on his team. He also blows 80% of three two leads. No matter who's on his team. You can have McGrady, you could have Paul Pierce and KG, you could have Chris, Paul and Blake Griffin, you could have kawaii Leonard and PG, you could even have James harden and JoJo and he is still will find a way like the cowboys to mess it up. No matter who's on his team. He is a jinx@@e.e.lawson6153
I feel like this pod is a week late. Talk about post all star Bucks
The team is now 17-18 since Doc Rivers joining. This video has aged like milk.
Here’s a question for you guys, as I struggle with it often: How can you tell if it’s guys not being able to do things vs the coach’s gameplan dictating that they shouldn’t? So for example you’re saying the guys around Giannis and Dame don’t attack the basket so closing out shuts down any interior offence. How much of that is because the roster can’t penetrate and how much of that is because the gameplan is that the lanes should always be clear for Dame and Giannis so no one should be stepping inside, even if it’s within their skillset?
The past few games have been going well. Their defense has gotten better so there is some level of optimism.
The driving point is a great one, Grayson Allen was an underrated loss for them
More and more lately I have been feeling bad for Doc because the construction of this team simply doesn't work and it stems back to trade of Jrue. However impossible, they needed to move Middleton not Holiday and I imagine that was why the Bucks seemingly out of nowhere after months of Heat intrigue and acquired Lillard. In the end Giannis' impatience and flexing might have resulted in the Bucks never getting to the finals because the way this team is currently constructed just doesn't match-up against the Celtics (who are somehow both younger and more experienced).
I think an important point to note is that the bucks FO should've known (as it seems everyone in their right mind did) that Doc wouldn't bring much if any change, so picking him, especially with the contract he got is absurd.
Who else were they picking?
@@uwannasee_greatnessthey shouldn’t even be in this situation. You go and get nick nurse in the off season
But he did bring change, you don't watch the bucks
Can h make a breakdown of the pacers?
The point about the Bucks not having enough drivers is a good one. Players like Beasley should be driving more with all the attention on Dame and Giannis.
The coaching change was more than likely due to personal reasons. The Bucks actual on court weaknesses come down to roster personnel
Did they even watch the games after the ASB?
I agree with the hot take where it's the same thing, but what is the point in having a coach with 20 years of experience when a guy who's first job it is does as well just for more money
Even if there are zero problems on the court if a coach is criticizing his team right after he got hired for something that isn't even really serious, and he has one it for almost every team he has worked for that is more than enough of a problem ngl. Like idc how good of a tactical coach Doc is, you can't convince me that he is a competent player coach with what he is saying to the media. That man clearly doesn't know how to manage ego's and motivate players.
Yeah cause dealing with KG, Pierce, rondo, Perkins and others takes no skill or knowledge whatsoever. Please just keep your ignorance to yourself the rest of us don’t need it.
@@user-dh7dj3yw1bthat was over 10 years ago what has he done since then?
He sucks tactically too. He's really just milking a reputation he's built while coaching talented rosters and not even maximizing their full potential, but since he wins a lot of games in the regular season and has the one title it makes his resume look good. He's good at placating big egos, but if their talent isn't so high to the point of overriding all the other problems his coaching performance creates like it did 15 years ago in Boston, he's out of his element.
@@sgshumblecrumb6046 Name one time you picked a doc rivers led team win it all since Boston. I’m not even going to wait cause the answer is 0 times. No one thought Philly would get out of the east, no one thought the clippers would get out of the west except for some media members in the bubble so what are you really talking about?
@@user-dh7dj3yw1b what are you talking about? The clippers were the hottest team going into the 2020 playoffs. Lob city didn't have much going for them but the kawhi team was ready.
Sample size. What they've done last 3 games looks different. Keeping teams to under 25 points a quarter in 6 of the last 12. They have pride in defense.
Doc been doing great lately
Didn't they just beat Minnesota and hold a team to 85 points?
The Wolves are not really a good offensive team. Still a great victory. They hold the Hornets to 85 pts, that's supposed to be impressive?
This video is stale already.
Ya. The problem.with this video is that its hella outdated but they're kinda right.
I dont think doc can fix the Bucks offensive woes that have plagued them since Bud was a coach as they only have two offensive creators at all in Dame and Gianmis. And smart teams in the East will definitely exploit this like Miami and Boston and maybe even Philly.
Doc has improved their defence tho...
Where in this video did they say bucks can't win games, or hold a team missing their stars to 85 points?
This is starting to look like that an older team that busted their nut last year in the regular season last year only to go nowhere, and was coasting this year on until the all star break. But we'll see, it's all noise until the playoffs.
Maybe its foolsgold but they have looked SIGNIFICANTLY better since the All-star break especially defensively. Maybe its pat beverelys influence. Maybe its Doc idk but both schematically and effort wise they're playing their arses off on defense
Cody is in the same sauna as Derek form More Plates More Dates
Teams should really move away from drop coverage and start icing or hedging picks more, almost all nba players have a respectable shot nowadays
How has the coaching hire not changed anything? I assume yall have watched the games post all star break, the team looks nignt and day different in so many ways
Everything you said is still true. They need another reliable driver.
Great video. We'll see what happens in june 😄 i guess. Better not call them a superteam then.
Wasn't that the point of Adrian Griffin at the beginning of the Season: that, latest come playoff-time, this drop-coverage would not get them anywhere, and he was trying to change it into something more modern and most of the team said, nag, we're not having it, and Griffin was to inexperienced and folded immediately,, so they regressed immediately. And what I Rivers doing except letting the boys play?
Yes
I love Doc being Bucks coach, there is so much potentional to blow 3-1 lead
Brooo, ALL the teams in the East are salivating thinking about that Bucks matchup. I hope it goes as well as all of them dream for it to go...
I know Im ready.
@@injusticeanywherethreatens4810 Gonna be so funny when bucks come out the east. Good luck
Looking at the bright side you won't get swept anymore because Doc is so good at winning 3 games and losing it.
Turns out Jrue Holiday was a pretty important part of their team. He made everything a little bit easier on Lopez and on offense while he’s nowhere near Dame, he wasn’t horrible.
stay on that side🤷♂️
Image in the Bucks had Norman Powell... A perfect SG for them.
While Doc most likely is not gonna lead the Bucks to a Championchip, neither was Griffin and whoever claims that the coachingchange was a mistake must be blind or not watching. Because it is not even about thinking Doc is a good coach, it is about realizing how terrible Griffin was and that it was unavoidable to fire him. Not only did he lose the team personally, but on the field he just had them do stupid stuff like Dame and Beasley crash the offensive glas, play a high pressure defenese without having a POA defender, have Brook and Bobby pick up guys way outside the threepoint line.
All Doc has done so far is revert back to what worked under Bud and thats where they are getting back to as even the stats prove. He went back from all the things I mentioned above, that might make you win regular season games with scores of 130 to 123 versus the Bulls, but there was no basis for any successfull Playoffgames and no chemisty at all.
Nobody expects Doc to develop some magic and make them unbeatable, but if he just gets them back to the basics that worked for them, thats fine.
While it will be frustrating, if he really blows a 3-1 lead in the second round, thats further than Adrian Griffin would have ever gotten this team. The progress might be meaningless to the overall league and general fans since most of them only care about RINGZZZ, but to most Bucks supporters it actually means a lot going from the certainty that you will fail in an ugly way and implode to probably still failing, but in a less ugly way und maybe only in the second round.
It was addition by subtraction, because no matter what you think of Doc, he couldn't be worse or as bad as Griffin was and he has proven that so far, even if he is not flawless, didn't fix everything, still makes mistakes, communicates terribly and most likely won't bring a ring.
Cool now talk about the last 3 games they’ve played
I feel that Dame and Giannis need to get other guys more involved in the offense. Middleton needs to average about 20 a game along with Dame and Giannis. A lot of times it seems like guys are just standing around watching Giannis and Dame. Everyone on that team needs to step up and show a greater sense of urgency. Dame has got to work on his play making skills to get others more involved. He still would rather do everything himself like in Portland.
Next year, the bucks are gona have a few diffeent faces and i think will be better. They need more defence-shooter wings and a different secondary ball handler
bruv you gotta get some wall art!
We're on it!
a doc rivers fathead, and maybe a replica Mona Lisa, would really tie the room together, lemme tell ya
Bro why would you think that a coach who notoriously chokes in the playoffs, cannot make adjustments, doesn’t run plays, has blown multiple double digit play off leads is anything other than a liability to your team?
You guys are being super disingenuous and using just one specific game against Miami which was a back to back and they had some back sliding on the defensive improvements they had made before. The screen navigation is better, the switching execution has improved, they're more physical, the scheme is similar to what they did under Bud and what Griffin wanted, except Doc explained everyone's roles in the defense more clearly so their execution of that scheme has been better with a few games being examples of not performing well on the night and slipping back to what they used to look like more often. Also they aren't crashing the glass offensively as much anymore in favor of getting back on defense. They are getting matched up much better in transition and so forth. The change has worked out. Also obviously the scheme wasn't going to change dramatically because Doc has explained that he didn't want to overwhelm guys in the middle of the season with a bunch of new terminology that would start making them think when playing defense rather than reacting instinctually. Also considering that they didn't have many practices left to try implement new schemes, it only further convinced him that he shouldn't overdue trying to make adjustments. Great reasons that make a lot of sense. The off season is where they can try to implement new things. Also they've used even more trapping and switching into their defense which were things Griffen wanted to do but wasn't a good enough coach to explain how to execute it properly with the players. Doc has done a better job of getting them on the same page. You're using the Miami game because it's an example of a night where they just didn't execute as well with screen navigation so when they finally did adjust, Miami was already hot and so they started hitting tough jumpshots that they might not normally make. Also Bam does a ton of moving screens. Since then they've been even more aggressive with their contests and screen navigation, deflections, etc. and the defense has improved a lot as a result. The idea that NO changes have occured is outright dishonest. Their point of attack defense inproved. Malik is better at navigating screens, he's more physical while not fouling, and his effort has thrown people out of rhythm even if the play doesn't look perfect and he's forced to recover. Dame is also just putting more effort and has improved at screen navigation and using physicality to disrupt guys, keeping the ball in front of him, etc. The offense and defense are both still developing but they have made improvements. Since the all-star break they have also begun to drive and cut more often, rather than just spotting up all the time. That bad habit does rear it's ugly head up at times, with iso ball happening too often, Bobby posting up when he shouldn't, Brook taking an ill advised threes, etc. However, it's not as disastrous as it used to be. I'll acknowledge that this video seemed to be recorded before all star break though so I'll give you a pass on that.
If you think the plus is negligible then wouldn't you rather the new guy who has potential to get better?
Oh boy they messed up firing Mike Budenholzer
I find it quite ironic how people clown the bucks for losing to Miami in the first round, and then also say firing Budenholzer was a mistake. No it wasn't, if you watched a single game you would know the bucks have been incredible recently, and the rest of the season only brings more opportunities for them to prove themselves.
The thing that's most hateable about Doc is that he talks to the media like he sits where I do for NBA games. As in, 2nd deck, cheap seats, maybe once every few years if I'm lucky. "Man, I don't know why we're playing this defense" and "I don't get this front office move" and "______ player isn't pulling his weight" hits DIFFERENT when it's the COACH.
Like, YOU WERE THERE. YOU WERE THE ONE making that coaching call or in charge of coaching that player! Don't talk like you weren't involved!
Doc is the most irresponsible coach in the NBA. Takes no accountability and blames his players, unlike great coaches like Malone, Popovich, Kerr, and Spoelstra.
A year ago coach.daniel posted a video showing how doc has committed a bunch of playoff failures and breaks down most of them.
I dont think doc is as good a coach as the bucks organization thinks he is...
The bucks should be hoping and praying that they don't run into Denver in the finals this season, they have so many weaknesses in their defensive scheme that Jokic would absolutely dismantle in a drawn out series. Gotta feel for Giannis
bucks are the nuggets worst matchup in the league.
112-95, y'all had 3 days in between games, and full roster. Explain how they have flaws in their defensive scheme when y'all only scored 95 on us? they've gone 4 consecutive games allowing under 100 points, not sure how that equals bad defense.
We just owned Denver and without Midds, thank you for your comment
@@volix4737#29 defense in the last 10 games the Bucks aren’t doing shit
No. 2 in the East feels and looks like a 4, 5, or 6 seed.
I'd be disappointed if 6ers vs bucks doesn't happen in the second round.
Third best team left in the UCL behind city and real 😊
Doc ain't gonna fix that. But it's also roster: their D was elite with Jrue. Dame is a matador defender. Plus, Lopez and Middleton are simply that much older. Their window closed. Coach ain't going to change that.
Probably a mistake to let go of Budenholzer. It's important to not panic.
sorry but dame being named to the top 75 list for what? absolutely insane. guy is not good enough to be there, offensively amazing shooter, but like some tf on now. over Klay even? that one name alone is enough to push dame out, among MANY OTHER past era greats too.
Seems like the bucks could have used a guard like Clarkson who can drive,dish and shoot. I wonder why they settled for Beasley, as much of a good shooter that he is, he is just bad in defense, and this is a guy that can't drive.
There are deeper problems in the organization than Doc Rivers, but organizations with "deeper" problems also are the ones that end up hiring coaches like Doc Rivers.
Without Giannis having an all-time historical season this year, this bucks team is a playin team at best.
Doc is the first man to claim to have made a super strong Shemanesque statement but somehow has the job
Uh, Bucks have been WAY better defensively since getting rid of Griffin. You dont need a spreadsheet to see it either.
Since Doc Rivers took over, the Bucks defense ranks:
- 5th in NBA in defensive rating
- 4th in NBA in opponent pts in the paint
- 2nd in NBA in opponent fast break pts
- 1st in NBA in opponent FG < 6 ft.
They ranked in the bottom half in all these before Doc took over...
STOP THE CAP! The offense fell off MOSTLY due to players missing time. Brook with birth of his child, Middleton ankle injury (been out for almost a month now), Dame bum ankle as well.
The media and majority of content creators are praying on a small market team’s downfall it’s insane
@@Obba1 it’s actually extremely odd the job the media has been doing covering the Milwaukee Bucks this season.
I thought I loved these guys, but this vid was not even reality. Maybe it was an old recording uploaded today.
@@Obba1What are you talking about? Cody is a bucks super fan.
@@thatoneguy1158 its the bucks fans that have been by far the most annoying. ungrateful. they dont deserve doc. they dont deserve giannis. i hope he leaves.
If you cant tell the difference between pre and post doc then you haven't been watching
When has Doc ever developed has players with mental toughness ...
He has. You need to watch old Celtics vids or podcasts positively talking about doc. Haters like to pile up and make it look like he doesn’t know shit.
Thsi aged well. Now talk about the Bucks defense hahahaha
I agree they should
so going from a winning records 30-13. to NOW where it is etched in stone, Doc has made them far worse than under AG. its not 'the same' or 'no difference', it is now 17-17 doc rivers losing to a tanking raptors with 2 starters in the lineup, and a tanking grizzlies with ONE starter. lmfaooo
Doesn't it say it all that there is literally no difference between a rookie coach and one with years of experience? Isn't that the problem with Doc Rivers forever? That he's an average to below average coach on every team he's been on when his teams are always playing for championships
Thanasis
As a Raptors fan the Bucks had their shot at Nick Nurse and they blew it. He would have created a much better offense than Adrian Griffin or Doc Rivers.
That wasn't a hot take that was a bad take. "The Bucks are the same" did we forget wins as a stat here? You can't say its not a coaching problem and then outline a whole bunch of things that could be improved with coaching. I was hoping for some insight on what Doc is doing to try and alleviate these issues but he's not. They could have brought in somebody who would at least try, therefore Doc is the problem.
Analysis on the rim attacking was interesting to hear. Was this an issue when they won the chip?
We all know the bucks have an inherently flawed roster. But the recent conversation about Doc is how he won’t make the team any better. The best he can do is par in the regular season, and WE KNOW who doc is in the post season. Why hire him?
At least the Bucks got a championship ring, because Doc Rivers will be breaking Bucks fans heart in the playoffs.
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Bucks fans coping as usual. The reason the Bucks are significantly better on defense statistically is because the teams they’ve been playing are not great offenses or miss players.
Of the 15 games only a handful are actually good offenses like the Nuggets, Suns, Mavs (w/o) Kyrie. It’s also inflated because they played teams like Grizzlies, Blazers, Hornets 2x, 76ers without Embiid. They struggled against teams who can actually spread the floor
If you replace the worst coach in the league with a worse coach, not much changes as what you have is the same thing: The worst coach in the league.
It still is a baffling move though.
Has Doc ever been a good coach? Genuine question. Always felt like the 6ers under him had tons of talent but no real scheme to make use of it..
Um how is it Doc’s fault for Embiid being injured in second rounds or him and harden dropping single points in elimination game. Or not to mention Ben Simons being a liability on offense.
As long as we don't go to a game 7, we have a chance 🏆#bucksnation
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