Rogue Bonanza Lands OPPOSITE to the Pattern at Oshkosh!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This Bonanza wound up being the exception to the rule at Oshkosh and landed 36L vs 18R like everyone else. The confusion may have occurred during the base portion of the pattern when 36 was mistaken for 18. Tower did an outstanding job sending everyone on final around and rapidly recovering the operation.
Date of filming: 07-22-23
Camera: Sony AX53
Microphone: Sony ECM-B10
© Twin Cities Aviator 2023
0:41 that looks like a yellow Vans RV... Piloted by Steve at Flight Chops. I know he's looking for footage of this from the ground to supplement his air to air footage to use in his first person story of the incident.
Thanks yeah / that was me 😂
Waiting patiently for the video.
@@FlightChopsI’m definitely going to be interested in that video when it comes out!!
Wow! What are the odds!
Can’t wait for the clickbait.
To give some perspective on this incident. They had been landing all day on Rwy 36L & and 36R when the wind shifted due to a passing weather system causing them to land the other direction Rwy 18L. This changed the procedure from a left base to final to a left downwind pattern. This was very confusing as the line of arrivals had all been preparing for the left base. And remember the ATC isn't using specific tail numbers to give instructions to the aircraft just the type aircraft. The pilots are to remain radio silent. In this case I believe ATC had just cleared a Bonanza (the v tail seen in the video) to land on the yellow dot (which is mid field). The wring way Bonanza probably was flying crosswind (which had been the base leg all day) and got the Bonanza clearance for the yellow dot confused as he was cleared to land on the yellow dot. So you now have two Bonanzas flying for the yellow dot in opposite directions. When ATC sees the conflict she says everyone on final go around. Which actually made things worse because both Bonanzas were on final and both started to go around. Once the wrong way Bonanza figured out he was the wrong way Bonanza he really didn't have much choice but to land as he had downwind traffic to his right and ultralight traffic on his left and rwy 27 traffic straight ahead. After this incident I believe ATC had spotters watching for planes on crosswind setting up for a turn to final. There were number of ATC calls to specific planes (by tail number) telling them to not descend and continue straight for a downwind arrival. I'm sure this wrong way pilot had a conversation with the FAA and may be facing a pilot deviation. Then again if the FAA finds that ATC instructions were unclear and the pilot believed it superseded the procedure in the NOTAM it may just end up being a learning experience for both pilots and ATC. The silver lining is that everyone got down safe.
I saw the replay on flightradar 24. This guy had no SA. Can’t follow the planes in front and can’t discern traffic flow as he approached his left base. Pretty bad.
He's got to be pretty dang happy that this was captured on video ! lol
This pilot deserves to have his FAA Pilot Certificate cancelled for the risk he placed other pilots and himself in with that insanely stupid stunt. Pathetic
The controllers that work Oshkosh do a hell of a job. Hats off to them. And the pilots who come in and follow instructions help make this a great event.
Being that the owner is an eye doctor, probably can't say he didn't see what everyone was doing...😂
Maybe his tongue got in the way of his eye teeth.
What is it with Doctors and Bonanzas??
@@dhyde9207 They can afford them.
@@dhyde9207 dunno, but was thinking the same thing.
I mean, he must not have seen he was nearly a mile NORTH of Fisk Ave either
I flew into Sun-N-Fun once. Don't plan on doing that again. Just way to crazy. Most everyone is going with the program and there always seems to be at least one guy running his own show.
Is this the same plane that cut off flight chops?
Yep, he’s actually in the video during the wide zoom out top of frame.
Must have been a doctor. They never listen to anybody. :-)
Yep. Ophthalmologist...who obviously doesn't have a working set of eyes.
Aircraft is registered to a doctor in North Carolina. The sad thing is.... he's a board-certified EYE doctor!!!
Dang!
What do you call the student who graduated last in their class?
Doctor.
Arrogant narcissist that is incompetent pilot because he flies 6 times a year.
Maybe it's actually _I_ doctor in this case?
At least we got the tail number now. Looking at his flight he just came straight in to a left base and landed. Interesting owner
Plane might be on the market soon.
@@jimmiller5600I don't mean to lol but .. lolll
It would be interesting to see if he gets a violation over that move.
LOL
@@skoffcoI'm sure he will. FAA keep a close eye on Osh because there are so many incidents.
what a dip s.... . no wonder ga insurance rates are out of control
As they should be considering the GA fatal accident rate.
That is really really bad!!!!! That display of such lack of air sense and SA should buy this guy a visit to the FSDO and a 709 ride.
Doctor or lawyer no doubt
And this is why I don't fly to Airventure...No Thank You.
And why couldn’t this happen at any other airport you fly to?
I’m surprised there aren’t more problems. The tower always does a great job of keeping the airspace safe.
Holy crap! That place looks like a disaster waiting to happen!!!
Was he ready to write down the numbers? lol
1:13 "We had somebody (N1949S) landing opposite direction." At least N3097C didn't have to fly back to Fisk.
It's a credit to the pilots and controller that there are not more incidents like that during AirVenture. I would rather fly any day surrounded and guided by professionals, than risk my life in my car surrounded by idiots and fools.
There are quite a few idiots up there too, just fewer and further between.
Wow. What a busy place. The controller’s really have their hands full.
Only the best work the tower at Oshkosh.
"Possible pilot deviation, please advise when ready to copy a number down to call the tower when you land."
Somebody will already be waiting there when he shuts down.
Unlikely. They are just happy he's on the ground and not participating anymore. Landing speed 90mph. Closure rate 180. Things happen fast.
@@jimflys2 Oh somebody will talk with him. It might not be the FAA, maybe one of the volunteers might go up and tell him he did wrong.
@@jimflys2 True, in the moment it is pay attention to the rouge aircraft and keep everyone on freq. clear until rouge comes up on freq. or ends up on the ground. I heard the controllers do just that a few times this year. There are no read back instructions happening and thus no way to know if any instruction was received, misunderstood, or ignored so it would be difficult to deviate a pilot in the situation in the video.
The words, "what is your main malfunction" come to mind! lol@@ictpilot
Downwind, no flaps. Thankfully everything worked out. It's a high stress environment. The pilot must have been very flustered and confused.
What you just typed made literally no sense
What's confusing? If you follow the controllers' instructions and have read the Fiske Approach procedure, you can't get lost. I don't disagree with the high stress environment, I've been into AirVenture twice, but landed in the right direction both times and didn't add to everyone else's stress.
@@virgilhilts3924Haha, um that actually makes 100% sense.
"helmet fire" (I've had them, just not so big and so public)
@@mline250
Oh then please by all means, feel free to explain...
Took me a second to realize the poster didn't mean a ruby-cheeked airplane. lol Rouge does 'kinda' look like rogue.
Just fixed that LOL
He'll be the very last to get departure clearance at the end of the show.....
As someone who spent 35 years as an aviation mechanic, I can’t imagine a worse hell than having to attend Oshkosh. I’m sure if there is a purgatory between Heaven and hell mine will be spent in a never ending Oshkosh air show.
They probably said "bonanza turn your base now, then Bonanza turn your final now cleared to land". and they were talking about the first bonanza (2nd guy thought it was him..)
he landed going the wrong way, he was completely oblivious the the approach procedure.
Anyone with that level of situational awareness isn't getting anywhere near me with a scalpel.
“Bonanza? Hey, I’m a Bonanza! I mean really…how many Bonanzas can there possibly be at this remote airport in Wisconsin?”
@@flyjarrett You'd be surprised. We had over 10,000 aircraft from 93 countries that week.
@@ghost307 I know...I was there. Just joking around.
He wanted to be in a video.
Jk.
Horrible mistake, but out come was ok
Glad atc got things squared away before it became a REAL mess.
i wonder if they've tried a pattern like we had in Navy Flight Training at Pensacola for the Primary Students. There was a higher (I think 1800') circle above the entry pattern. You did a circle there, stepped down to the entry pattern, then did a 360 break over the runway, gear, flaps, prop, etc, final, then land. Of course, here they have two parallel runways, so I'm not sure how that would work.
According to the Airfield notice (formerly NOTAM) Warbirds (the pilots of which, I guess, are presumed to know how to fly that overhead approach) may be asked to do so, or can request it. I was asked to do that last year, I suppose for spacing.
They used to do something like that at the old Municipal airport in Kansas City with GA airplanes arriving during periods of heavy airline arrivals. The GA guys would circle the field at pattern altitude. When there was a gap in arrivals the controller would pick the circling aircraft in the best position, call out their number then order "short approach, cleared to land."
TBH HOW TF CAN THIS POSSIBLY HAPPEN!?!? I honestly can't fathom it. how did he not see the HUGE LINE of A/C on his GPS/ADSB/foreflight, how did he not see the HUGE line of A/C out his windows NOT in front of him, how could he not have heard ATC yelling at him? (im presuming they were calling him out the entire time!?!? because they're on POINT about this and extremely direct.) how could ATC not have been YELLING at him to go around vs sending the entire line around? how could he be so INEPT and OBLIVIOUS completely lacking ALL SA!?!? WTF. I just don't understand how this is possible, having flown in myself as well, its mindblowing. I can't imagine this ever happening.
Probably still on his home airport frequency.
Just arrogance. You'd be surprised at how certain people are extremely prone to it.
It's ALWAYS a Bonanza. Lol. Its one of the few real planes in my budget and I'm so hesitant to get one because their pilots are like the BMW drivers of the skies! But I do love those V tails.
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The BMW bubbas have all switched to Tesla. 😊
I have a BMW, and I resent that. 😊
We have one A36 but no BMW 😂
Still not as bad as Cirrus pilots.
One year I watched a Doctor Killer land on 18 RR.... the taxiway.
BAN Oshkosh - save lives! How bout that for an out-of-the-box take... 😂
Looking for the humor in a potentially dangerous situation like this, can we all enjoy for a moment the irony that the owner (and perhaps therefore the pilot) of this aircraft is an Ophthalmologist. Surely an ego busting moment that I'm sure he'll never live down, glad it ended without any major incident so we can laugh at it.
There is nothing funny about something that dangerous. Four people lost their lives at AirVenture. I know, not during approaches and landing. But, things can go bad very quickly in aviation.
I called that ( a doctor) before I even saw your comment.
@@jimchandler6744 its a Bonanza after all... the odds were in your favor.
Yeah , bound to be either a doctor or lawyer 😂
@@davemanning6424 could never have been a lawyer. Lawyers are all about following rules and procedures.
What a cluster f%#@, no wonder there's so many crashes at this air show every year.
Way too many rogue pilots this year and it cost some their lives. This year was a shit show
Future Fatal statistic for NTSB....
What happens when the conditions are not VFR ?
Asking as a non-pilot.
Everyone diverts until the weather clears.
IFR slots are available to reserve, but not a lot of slots available.
He should face a revocation for careless and reckless.
Almighty! That place is chaos.
Skill and pure luck combo, everytime.
The landing gear on that 210 looks absolutely screwed. @1:25
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Thanks cor uploadings sure does help since i cant go
This is just wild
What a clusterfk!!!
Too many planes.
When did Harrison Ford start flying a Bonanza?
LOL
I have to wonder how many pilot deviations came out of Oshkosh this year.
I personally saw two and didn’t hear about any others.
NUTS!
Semi-controlled chaos?
Always
it's like a typical night on VATSIM, GA screwing everything up.
I hope that doctor doesn't amputate the left arm when it was supposed to be the right arm
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He's an ophthalmologist - so hopefully no arms will be removed - eyes maybe
Oshkosh is becoming known as a place for pilots to die and pilots to flagrantly violate the most basic rules of airport discipline. Stay tuned for more terrible deaths and other mayhem...
IMO, FAA and the insurance companies should shut the whole thing down. Flying magazine published a puff-piece making a big deal about the thousands of arrivals and departures at AirVenture 2023 without a peep about the 4 people who lost their lives during all of it. Too many wannabee pilots in too little airspace.
@@vgrof2315 If your situational awareness wasn’t so poor, you’d see an article about the accidents written just one day prior to your so-called “puff-piece.”
****happens. Glad it wasn't commercial treffic
I have been in group flights on MSFS 2020 that went smoother than that lol
That’s some crazy shit going on there all around.
What a mess, mid air collisions waiting to happen.
Surprised it wasnt a Vtail aka the doctor killer
A pilot deviation and phone number.
Totally up and locked. He's living his best life tho.
I have been flying over 40 years and I wouldn't attend this dangerous clown convention if it paid me a million bucks.
And we appreciate that. I know some airline pilots who choose to drive to the convention.
Are there any consequences for his actions, or is it “no harm, no foul” because it’s Oshkosh?
Good question, I imagine at least a hefty slap on the wrist (not literal).
I hope he was met by the police! This level of incompetence is astonishing.
this is crazy!!!
Im guessing there is a Bonanza for sale because he no longer has a license to fly
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Nonsense
It just got registered in March of this year, too.
oopsy!
What a zoo!!
Is there a number he has to call now?
Oh yeah
Does the dude still have his license?
Probably
We have workshops all the time; AOPA, FAAsteam, local airports, EAA… about rwy incursion, midair collision at the traffic pattern, and so on. It’s inevitable things like this one shown here will happen. It’s in the human nature to run into mistakes or misunderstanding… no judgement here to anyone . Maybe tower could be more emphatic by saying : Bonanza V-tail or Bonanza single tail , and every single pilot got to pay attention closely as your life depends on it to land safely. Great team work anyway and thank God things didn’t turn …
Good thing he didn't decide to go around the same time that V-tail did. But then, he was coming in at a 45 degree angle to the runway... on FINAL! Strange situation, esp. not hearing the radio chatter that led up to it.
@@KutWrite yep. I was watching and crossing my fingers , because I misread and thought this video was showing an actual accident at Oshkosh. Glad i was mistaken .
THAT GUY! Yep, you're HIM! What a Maroon! 🥴🥴😵😵🤪🤪😱😱
I don't know how that happens. I mean you have a string of planes in front of you, all you have to do is follow them. It seems like you must have a serious lack of situational awareness for that to happen. But yeah, overall AirVenture has a remarkable safety record considering how many planes/pilots of varying levels of performance/skill are landing and taking off at that rate. All because of the volunteers that control the traffic.
it's pretty easy to explain. He obviously didn't read the NOTAMs for the event.
I'm a less experienced pilot and have never flown into the EAA but yeah this is what I was wondering too. Like, especially on that day, it was a solid line of planes all the way in. I just don't know how you can be that unaware of the traffic or simply how things work when flying in to Oshkosh for this event. Maybe in my lack of experience I'm not seeing the whole picture but wow.
I was volunteering at EAA and saw this. Earlier in the day they were landing runway 36 but then a storm came through early afternoon and arrivals stopped. When the arrivals started again after the storm had passed the wind had shifted and they switched to landing on runway 18. I think pilots are much more used to landing runway 36 at AirVenture, and I wonder if landings on 18 being less common had something to do with this pilot's mistake. It looked like another pilot had turned for a final on 36 as well maybe 2 hours later, but waved off at the last second and managed to join the pattern for 18 again and land on the correct runway.
The main traffic control is by ATC from various areas of the country and I do believe they all get paid for the “ volunteer service “ . And they do a great job imo as I have flown into there a few times
I would love to see you make a video of landing at flying cloud airport!
🇫🇷 Warm welcome then jail ?
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It's called "pilot deviation", but consequences can vary a lot.
What type at 2:19?
Tecnam p2006t
Our problem is that aviation calls for rigid standardization and procedural conformity by people who read Ayn Rand and pray for Ronald Reagan.
Are you off your meds?
More likely the problem is having strict procedures that get ignored by the "I'm the only person in the whole world" Biden voters.