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At the pace at which you upload these videos I can only hope you also take care of yourself. I'd hate for you to burn yourself out maintaining such a frequent upload schedule because I love your lighthearted humour and energy in these videos!
Apparently, the Soviets copied the B29 so exactly that all Tu4s had a half white/half green access tunnel between the cockpit and the rest of the aircraft. Boeing had simply run out of green paint when they built the captured aircraft. They also copied a small hole in one of the wings where a Boeing worker had mistakenly drilled a rivet hole in the wrong place.
While unfortunate that your wingmen couldn't be of more use than just distraction in the end; it is quite impressive, in any era, to be made an Ace in one mission.
Part of the reason it was heavier was that the Soviets were using the metric system rather than the imperial system. They didn't have sheet metal for the skin in thickness that matched. It was either slightly thinner or thicker. They went with thicker.
you are aware metric and imperial is just a measuring system half an inch is just 12,7 mmfor example i say this as an apprentice machinist who uses both, there is nothing about metric (or imperial) that would require you to use a thinner or thicker thickness than you would need, you just simply convert and then make a plate the same thickness in the other system so if i have a half inch plate and i want to make that in metric, i convert half an inch to metric and make a 12,7mm plate you can do this for extremely thin thick or anything in between plates and just convert whatever measurement you made it in to another measuring system if i have a sheet metal plate of a certain thickness, whether im using imperial or metric wont change how thick that plate is, just the number and system describing the thickness seems there is alot of misinformation going around of the mig-23 with alot just making no sense/being dreamed up
@@GlowingSpamraam First off, he's referring to the TU-4, which was reverse engineered. Second, typically you're not changing your entire sheet-metal production process for 1 plane. You're using what's available. It was metric, and it was thicker, so that's what they used. Pretty easy to look this up.
@@GlowingSpamraam yeah that's true, but if you are using mass produced materials and don't wanna start a new production line/alter your current product, you're gonna need to use what you've got whether it should be that size or not.
The Tu-4 was copied from an early block B-29, so the plane inherited a lot of the faults of those early Superfortresses, which were rectified in later production models. But the copying was very exact--Stalin wanted an exact replica of a B-29, and except for stuff they had trouble sourcing or reverse engineering, like the R-3350 engines, it pretty much was, right down to the Boeing logo on the control yokes.
Excessive literalism was a safe way of dealing with Stalin's directives. It's not uncommon in some cultures. Back in the 19th century, captains of tea clippers would often have new suits of clothing made by expert Chinese tailors for a fraction of what they would have paid in London. One day, a captain brought in a pair of white duck trousers that had worn through in the seat, and been patched with some gray fabric. "Make me a new pair of trousers just like these":, he told the tailor. He came back two weeks later to be handed a magnificent pair of white duck trousers--with a big patch of gray cloth on the seat.@@AlanpittsS2b
Hey this was an amazing video. My old man was one of the last of the F-4 pilots in the Air Force and sadly he is no longer with us. He was a quiet man and never talked much about his experience so it would be cool if you do more F-4/Cold War scenarios. Thanks for the vids!
I love watching these F4’s so much. Especially your Vietnam type missions you do. Those are my favorite videos for me personally. Which is weird because I have no particular reason to enjoy that era of warfare. I’m a Marine grunt that was in at the beginning of the GWOT. I have called in a few air strikes on some enemy, but other than that I have never had any association with the Wing. I enjoy all the videos though really, it’s been a long time since I’ve missed even a day of your posts. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that for me being a ground pounder my whole life, I like seeing what the wingers deal with, especially the aviators. For me, your videos show a side of the military I didn’t really deal with much. And your explaining things like strategy and how to use your aircraft strengths to exploit the enemy’s weaknesses are really informative and interesting to me! Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. And respect for the thousands of hours you’ve had to have played to reach the level of competence that you have. That is serious dedication and discipline! No joke! 🙏💪👍
The MiG-23 is my all-time favorite aircraft (followed closely by the Mirage F-1). It's a pity (well, not really I suppose) that it wasn't more capable. Would love to see how a MiG-23-98 would notionally perform.
Appears that your buddies were not pulling their weight. You got all 4 MiG23s which means they got none. 1 MiG didnt have time to kill anything, so the other 3 scored kills before you disassembled them. Need more Growling Sidewinders in the Sqdn.
I wonder what the debrief on this mission would be like? "Congratulations on making ace in a day and bagging a bomber but what happened to the rest of your flight?"
Early sparrows required 4 seconds of lock before you could fire. Later variants allowed as little as 1.5s for navy but the Air Force still required 4 seconds per the manual
I read somewhere that the MiG-23 was the answer to the F-4. He was supposed to be a Phantom Hunter. Just as the MiG-29 was later the answer to the F-16..
@@danielmiller3781 I do not think. The MiG-23 is a single-seat, single-engine fighter. The F-111 is a two-seat, twin-engine fighter-bomber. So two completely different planes. The only thing that connects them is the variable geometry of the wing. Nothing more.
Probably deeper than the altitude your plane was flying at. Just plunging towards that dark cold abyss. Not to mention the inevitable hypothermia if you survive the chute in the water
I'd be curious about this fight, but with JA-37s substituted for the F-4s. I'm interested in how Swedish aviation compares to Russian of roughly the same era.
I just climbed through a B29 a few weeks ago along with a B24. The B29 had notches in the bay so it could fit the fins on a nuclear bomb like big boy. It also had a round air duct looking thing on the ceiling that the guys had to crawl through to get to the rear guns because the B29 was the first airplane to be pressurized and they crawled over the bomb bay because that couldn’t be.
Love the F-4 content!! Heatblur needs to give us another update...getting pretty close to the end of the year. I know they still have like 2 months to meet their 2023 release but we all are anxious.
GS keep this up bro I love your videos and the amazing work you put into them. Also I love videos with “older” aircraft especially the F-4. I am wondering though if you plan on playing as a F-86 or MiG-15 again cause those videos were cool.
MiG 23 is pretty good. One of my most played planes in war Thunder. With the wings fully out that thing holds energy very well. Also the thrust to weight.
An interesting note about the reverse engineering of the B-29. The B-29 in question had at some point before she found herself in Russian hands suffered battle damage that was repaired using sheet metal patches. The Russians had copied her so closely that the early production TU-4's included these "repair" patches.
I watched a little doco once wherein it was said that the top speed of the MiG 23 was unknown because it would come apart before reaching it. Meaning, the plane would just keep giving as much speed as the pilot asked for until the wings wouldn't stay on. Sounds kind of nonsensical but there it is.
@@GrowlingSidewinder The Flogger can reach its max operational speed of M2,35 with the wings swept to 45 deg, so at full sweep of 72 deg it can go much faster than that, but it would suffer structural damage due to overheating.
Yo GS, Mission accomplished. Not a good day for the Jolly Rogers :( The Phantom does wear its paint well. Or maybe in that era squadron history and pride was more revierd. Now all squadrons planes are grey except one usually. Thanks again enjoyed the history lesson. Have a pleasant day. Cheers.
Hope you can make a vid demonstrating an FA-50PH. Our country (The Philippines) recently acquired some units and was genuinely curious how they performed. Thank you for your daily content! Kudos @GrowlingSidewinder much love!
The aircraft has a long and colorful history, and we're going to try to add to it today. Mainly by adding fire smoke and an impact at about 400 mph straight into the ground.
As far as I know the soviets had been playing with the idea of a variable sweep wing, along with several other countries. The concept however, was thought to be unsafe until NASA disproved this. This led to the creation of the F-111 and after this the MiG-23
I now realize the reason i can't see anything is because the enemies are so small they aren't shown. I realized this when i saw a single off color pixel.
While the MiG-21 might not be better than the F-4, I feel the 23 can be a good rival and possible better. Is it a better overall aircraft in a direct air-to-air engagement?
@@GrowlingSidewinder You think you could show that in a video? I'm curious. I don't play DCS myself to try it, I'm subsribed for the info and entertainment value of your channel.
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Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.
Day 113 of asking for A-10 vs F-14
@@NVINODEthat would be stupidly unfair
just why???@@NVINODE
@@Lightning_aus no not as in bvr
Day 4 of asking of some F/A 18 CAS
At the pace at which you upload these videos I can only hope you also take care of yourself. I'd hate for you to burn yourself out maintaining such a frequent upload schedule because I love your lighthearted humour and energy in these videos!
I try to balance both, thank you for your concern though. I deff prioritize myself first.
Apparently, the Soviets copied the B29 so exactly that all Tu4s had a half white/half green access tunnel between the cockpit and the rest of the aircraft. Boeing had simply run out of green paint when they built the captured aircraft.
They also copied a small hole in one of the wings where a Boeing worker had mistakenly drilled a rivet hole in the wrong place.
While unfortunate that your wingmen couldn't be of more use than just distraction in the end; it is quite impressive, in any era, to be made an Ace in one mission.
It takes just a competent pilot and a target rich environment ;-).
Part of the reason it was heavier was that the Soviets were using the metric system rather than the imperial system. They didn't have sheet metal for the skin in thickness that matched. It was either slightly thinner or thicker. They went with thicker.
And that is why the metric system is studier than the freedom system.
you are aware metric and imperial is just a measuring system
half an inch is just 12,7 mmfor example
i say this as an apprentice machinist who uses both, there is nothing about metric (or imperial) that would require you to use a thinner or thicker thickness than you would need, you just simply convert and then make a plate the same thickness in the other system
so if i have a half inch plate and i want to make that in metric, i convert half an inch to metric and make a 12,7mm plate
you can do this for extremely thin thick or anything in between plates and just convert whatever measurement you made it in to another measuring system
if i have a sheet metal plate of a certain thickness, whether im using imperial or metric wont change how thick that plate is, just the number and system describing the thickness
seems there is alot of misinformation going around of the mig-23 with alot just making no sense/being dreamed up
@@GlowingSpamraam good point but it was probably easier for them to use measurements they knew especially soviets
@@GlowingSpamraam First off, he's referring to the TU-4, which was reverse engineered. Second, typically you're not changing your entire sheet-metal production process for 1 plane. You're using what's available. It was metric, and it was thicker, so that's what they used. Pretty easy to look this up.
@@GlowingSpamraam yeah that's true, but if you are using mass produced materials and don't wanna start a new production line/alter your current product, you're gonna need to use what you've got whether it should be that size or not.
The Tu-4 was copied from an early block B-29, so the plane inherited a lot of the faults of those early Superfortresses, which were rectified in later production models. But the copying was very exact--Stalin wanted an exact replica of a B-29, and except for stuff they had trouble sourcing or reverse engineering, like the R-3350 engines, it pretty much was, right down to the Boeing logo on the control yokes.
Did they really have Boeing logos on the yolk? Wonder why. Did they want to play it off like they didn’t build their own?
Excessive literalism was a safe way of dealing with Stalin's directives. It's not uncommon in some cultures. Back in the 19th century, captains of tea clippers would often have new suits of clothing made by expert Chinese tailors for a fraction of what they would have paid in London. One day, a captain brought in a pair of white duck trousers that had worn through in the seat, and been patched with some gray fabric. "Make me a new pair of trousers just like these":, he told the tailor. He came back two weeks later to be handed a magnificent pair of white duck trousers--with a big patch of gray cloth on the seat.@@AlanpittsS2b
One of the biggest issue with the B-29 was that later upgraded iterations were not named the Super-Duper Fortress.
Amazing work Growling Sidewinder, thank you for everything you do to make these videos, it truly is appreciated by every single one of us.
You should remake this in 2 weeks when the Heatblur F-4 & Razbam MiG-23 are out
Did you mean 2 years or decades
They’re doing MiG-23?
you just said a bunch of bull crap
The only correct interpretation of two weeks
@@brandonproctor3639razbam is doing the flogger
Hey this was an amazing video. My old man was one of the last of the F-4 pilots in the Air Force and sadly he is no longer with us. He was a quiet man and never talked much about his experience so it would be cool if you do more F-4/Cold War scenarios. Thanks for the vids!
Both of these are incredibly beautiful planes.
3:38 you know something's wrong when your plane plays für elise out of nowhere
First two notes 😂😂
The soviets copied the B29 design so closely, that the boeing logos on the yoke and rudder peddals were retained on the early production TU4s.
😂😂😂
I love watching these F4’s so much. Especially your Vietnam type missions you do. Those are my favorite videos for me personally. Which is weird because I have no particular reason to enjoy that era of warfare. I’m a Marine grunt that was in at the beginning of the GWOT. I have called in a few air strikes on some enemy, but other than that I have never had any association with the Wing.
I enjoy all the videos though really, it’s been a long time since I’ve missed even a day of your posts. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that for me being a ground pounder my whole life, I like seeing what the wingers deal with, especially the aviators. For me, your videos show a side of the military I didn’t really deal with much. And your explaining things like strategy and how to use your aircraft strengths to exploit the enemy’s weaknesses are really informative and interesting to me!
Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. And respect for the thousands of hours you’ve had to have played to reach the level of competence that you have. That is serious dedication and discipline! No joke! 🙏💪👍
When I see that your video is online I just cheer out of excitement because this is such a good channel.
I appreciate you.
I have been enjoying the content very much recently and want to thank you very much for the frequent top quality uploads
He did a video like that with the Eurofighter.
@@traviswalker8933 i know. And i have watched them many times. So I woild be happy about a new one.
His content is always just interesting, which tells that most of his audience haven't played DCS, including me.
Love these old school battles
Mig 29 vs F14 plz 🙏
The MiG-23 is my all-time favorite aircraft (followed closely by the Mirage F-1). It's a pity (well, not really I suppose) that it wasn't more capable. Would love to see how a MiG-23-98 would notionally perform.
Today, Angolan AF uses updated MiG 23, with avionics and weapons of MiG 29.
It is not cutting edge, but for African conditions it's quite good.
Ace in one mission. Nicely played
“It has a long and colorful history…. And we are going to shoot it down today” 😂😂
15:47 "we'll pick up those guys for questioning" 😂😎👍👍
“Enhanced Questioning” lol
Appears that your buddies were not pulling their weight. You got all 4 MiG23s which means they got none. 1 MiG didnt have time to kill anything, so the other 3 scored kills before you disassembled them. Need more Growling Sidewinders in the Sqdn.
I wonder what the debrief on this mission would be like? "Congratulations on making ace in a day and bagging a bomber but what happened to the rest of your flight?"
The sparrows cooperated very well today.
I was really impressed with the Sidewinder at 7:00 for not pursuing the Forbidden Heat Signature, it was right there.
Early sparrows required 4 seconds of lock before you could fire. Later variants allowed as little as 1.5s for navy but the Air Force still required 4 seconds per the manual
Common Natops W / DASH-1 L
4:01 Does that warning tone sound like the Fur Elise piece to anyone else?
I think the Mig-23 was a response to the F-111 Aardvark not the F-14 tomcat
I read somewhere that the MiG-23 was the answer to the F-4. He was supposed to be a Phantom Hunter. Just as the MiG-29 was later the answer to the F-16..
MiG-23 is developed as analog to F-111 Aardvark and also an F-4 counter. Or at least the design is influenced by F-111
@@danielmiller3781 I do not think. The MiG-23 is a single-seat, single-engine fighter. The F-111 is a two-seat, twin-engine fighter-bomber. So two completely different planes. The only thing that connects them is the variable geometry of the wing. Nothing more.
How terrifying would it be to eject in the middle of the ocean...
Probably deeper than the altitude your plane was flying at. Just plunging towards that dark cold abyss. Not to mention the inevitable hypothermia if you survive the chute in the water
@@TheCobra114-o5e Thank God a russia/usa air battle will most likely take place where there aren't any sharks lol
I'd be curious about this fight, but with JA-37s substituted for the F-4s. I'm interested in how Swedish aviation compares to Russian of roughly the same era.
"The aircraft had a long and colorful history" ... ‘If you love something... --hunt it down and kill it.’ Ha, ha, ha... well said.🤣
I recommend you question the guys from the TU remotely in an OUTHOUSE.....DOOOH!
I always think the missile launched tone from the RWR pounds the start of fur Elise
...and that tone is stuck in my brain.
Thought the same thing! Was waiting for the rest of the song!
Damn, that's an Ace in one sortie.
I really needed some great Phantom action today. Great video.
You are so correct about the history of the Tu-4 Bull. Too bad you couldn’t use Tomcats on this mission.
Think all the alarms from all the planes could be edited to play Fur Elise?
GS is a terror in the sky. He's the F22 of DCS pilots.
There’s two Tu-4s in the museum at Datangshan. One is the AWACS, and the other carries reverse-engineered Firebee drones of some kind.
The “Jolly Rogers “! Thanks for repping that great squadron!!
I just climbed through a B29 a few weeks ago along with a B24. The B29 had notches in the bay so it could fit the fins on a nuclear bomb like big boy. It also had a round air duct looking thing on the ceiling that the guys had to crawl through to get to the rear guns because the B29 was the first airplane to be pressurized and they crawled over the bomb bay because that couldn’t be.
Fifi and Diamond Lil?
Love the F-4 content!! Heatblur needs to give us another update...getting pretty close to the end of the year. I know they still have like 2 months to meet their 2023 release but we all are anxious.
GS keep this up bro I love your videos and the amazing work you put into them.
Also I love videos with “older” aircraft especially the F-4. I am wondering though if you plan on playing as a F-86 or MiG-15 again cause those videos were cool.
As much as i watch these videos... how tf are you seeing these specks in a sea of blue and white?
It’s a little easier to see on my screen I think it’s hard for you guys to see because of UA-cam compression
@@GrowlingSidewinder that would make much more sense.
Would like to see the F16 vs Rafale BVR to BFM
If you’ve ever seen the movie “The Final Countdown” I’d love to see you play the final scene but complete it. Maybe get LongShot to join you🤙🏻
MiG 23 is pretty good. One of my most played planes in war Thunder. With the wings fully out that thing holds energy very well. Also the thrust to weight.
While VF-143 will always be near and dear to my heart, seeing those F-4Bs in VF-84 livery is a very close second...
5 enemy kills in a single sortie. Nice shooting !
Always entertained by your vids GS! youve grown a heckofalot the past few months!
GS doing work. Became an Ace in one sortie! 👏
We want to see Rafael vs. F-35 BVR fight.
The TU-4's rudder pedals have "Boeing" on them from being castings of the original parts.
I like the mission scenarios. Please do more.
I really enjoy the content you put out. My favorite UA-cam channel by far. I am a fan of the Cold War era.
7:00 - why didn't you use the vertical or a barrel roll attack to get around the circle faster?
Send out the Comrade Catchers! (Navy)
I thought that damn missile warning alarm was the fire alarms in my house, sounds exactly the same! :D
An interesting note about the reverse engineering of the B-29. The B-29 in question had at some point before she found herself in Russian hands suffered battle damage that was repaired using sheet metal patches. The Russians had copied her so closely that the early production TU-4's included these "repair" patches.
Nice scenario, nice fighting. Great content.
Is the screen becoming black, and the FOV shrinking simulating pulling high Gs, and almost blacking out?
Correct.
F4 is my favorite jet, and I love watching it doing what it was built for!
i like modern bvr fights is like playing chess. but this close up and personal fights on old era aircraft are something special
An ace in one sortie!
I love those 60's/70s era dogfights.
Now for a proper F4 vs Mig23 duel 😬
I watched a little doco once wherein it was said that the top speed of the MiG 23 was unknown because it would come apart before reaching it. Meaning, the plane would just keep giving as much speed as the pilot asked for until the wings wouldn't stay on. Sounds kind of nonsensical but there it is.
Sounds very Soviet.
@@GrowlingSidewinder The Flogger can reach its max operational speed of M2,35 with the wings swept to 45 deg, so at full sweep of 72 deg it can go much faster than that, but it would suffer structural damage due to overheating.
Nice shooting, GS, you're an Ace.
Next comes the engagement where Soviet and American forces race to rescue/capture the downed airmen.
"Mobius One shot down a bear!"
Yes, I know it's not a bear!
Yo GS, Mission accomplished. Not a good day for the Jolly Rogers :( The Phantom does wear its paint well. Or maybe in that era squadron history and pride was more revierd. Now all squadrons planes are grey except one usually. Thanks again enjoyed the history lesson. Have a pleasant day. Cheers.
Excited to see more F4 vids with the new DLC
I think it'd be super sick if he got like 2-3 other guys together to do an insanely one sided battle (eg: 4v12 or 3v9)
Hope you can make a vid demonstrating an FA-50PH. Our country (The Philippines) recently acquired some units and was genuinely curious how they performed. Thank you for your daily content! Kudos @GrowlingSidewinder much love!
J 20 vs typhoon
Crazy to see a B-29 copy with turbo props
The aircraft has a long and colorful history, and we're going to try to add to it today. Mainly by adding fire smoke and an impact at about 400 mph straight into the ground.
As far as I know the soviets had been playing with the idea of a variable sweep wing, along with several other countries. The concept however, was thought to be unsafe until NASA disproved this. This led to the creation of the F-111 and after this the MiG-23
You think the soviets copy of a B29 was in service for a long time remember the B52 is still going.
I now realize the reason i can't see anything is because the enemies are so small they aren't shown. I realized this when i saw a single off color pixel.
Mobius 1?
And here I thought it was the F-111, not the F-14, that the MiG-23 was supposed to be an answer to...
The MiG-23 first flew 3 years before the f-14. It was a response to the f-4.
While the MiG-21 might not be better than the F-4, I feel the 23 can be a good rival and possible better. Is it a better overall aircraft in a direct air-to-air engagement?
Not Today.
@@firebald2915 yeah that's why I asked in general bc any team with GS on it has an advantage. The dude's like the Top Gun of DCS😂😂
Man, I really hope the razbam MiG-23 is still indev
Great mission. Love these
Your wearin that poor pilot out. Even the G Moster would stuggle under that load
11:27 the guy was doomed. Look at those wing angles - he was low-energy and nose up with a fox-2 incoming.
Mmmm Jolly Rogers 🏴☠️
Do a para-glider vs a IAF F-16.
I hope razbam will relase Mig-23 very soon.
Ace in one mission. Not too shabby.
Don’t be sad: I had one Falcon 4.0 mission where I was the last Falcon standing
i was wondering if it was possible to do something with the NF-16 VISTA (thrust vectored f16)
Not in dcs
Can you go into G-loc in DCS or does it have just that blackening/blurring effect?
Yea u can
@@GrowlingSidewinder You think you could show that in a video? I'm curious.
I don't play DCS myself to try it, I'm subsribed for the info and entertainment value of your channel.
Where's your trap back on the ship? Did you go to the three funerals too?
That's makes you an ace today. 5 kills.
F35 vs Bandit unknown.
Lets see what you can do with it....
“Everyone’s dead” ☠️
F-14 vs F-35
When will you fly the F-35?
Why the screen become dark when you turn vigorously?
G force