To the people who are saying "BUT THAT GPU IS BOTTLE-NECKED BY THE CPU... SUCH A WASTE..." Yes, of course it is. But consider that this is the real world and someone's got to pay for these upgrades. If we replace the CPU, we also have to change the RAM and Mobo, because 4th gen is a dead-end. And we'll still need a new GPU and SSD. So suddenly the customer has to pay £400-500+ for CPU, RAM, Mobo, GPU, SSD. Instead we went for an SSD and GPU, which despite being bottle-necked, will provide a speed boost right away for £200-250, and in the future when the rest of the PC is upgraded, they can be used with those upgrades to further unlock their potential. I specced these upgrades based on what the customer was able to afford at the time, with mind that more upgrades should be done in the future.
true, upgrading a pc is not the same as building a new system. last year I upgraded my old A10-5800K with a new Ryzen 5 2600 which meant that I had to upgrade the motherboard and RAM as well, since the A10 uses FM2 socket and it was still DDR3. boi was it an expensive upgrade.
@Garga Mel Around £80 for a 4770 and around £90 for a 4790. Add £20 or so for the K version in both cases. But as has been said, you are heading down a blind alleyway with that upgrade.
Hiya, I used to work for Chillblast back when Yogscast was popular and I can confirm that the zip tie was on there for shipping purposes as we had a number of machines returned due to the fan falling off in shipping I might have been the one who build the original machine and applied the vinyl wrap as there was only me and one other guy building the Yogscast machines Love watching the videos very relaxing to watch
I went on the current "Official Yogscast Gaming PCs" page on the Chillblast website, and looking at the three tiers iI'm guessing it was similar with these old ones, and this would have been the "Lite" / low end one I'm guessing...? I also found a taller version of this old one on Google Images. The new ones seem to be higher specced *for* the tier *for* them being 7 years newer though...? Even the LITE has: Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Memory: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB Storage: 250GB SSD / 1TB Seagate HDD Operating System: Windows 10 Home The CPU and RAM and storage I can kind-of understand, but a 1660 Super on the lowest tier...? I would've thought that would be a 1650, as that would match up with the 750 here...?
I love the way in which you take care of the customer's computers as if they were your own. I always thought that people like you (and me) are rare. I don't do repairs of other's hardware (except friends & family) but I always take care of other's people's property as if it was mine. Kudos to you sir!
10 years ago I spent a week with the Norton Ghost as I was tasked with updating/cloning every PC in the college over the summer. I think I forgot about that until today. What a throwback! Our installs were roughly 18GB, so they went faster, but not slow enough where I could leave to do other things.
thank you for making these videos, its good to see someone not cut out all the simple things or edit for time and not show how things are done, i used 1 of your videos already to trouble shoot my sons pc and sure enough he had a bad ram stick, many thanks for saving me money cause i can do it myself, being a disabled vet i dont have 100 to have a pc checked out, you sir are a god send for us poor people just trying to get by
That case is so quirky but really functional if you use a downward facing CPU cooler. I stuffed mine with 6x 3.5" drives as well as 2 SSDs, one on the outside of each outer drive sled. Obviously that's not the best scenario for a gaming setup but I was just using it as a file and Plex server at the time.
Smart phone and internet, dedicated slim laptops are of a different breed. I thrilled at having a desktop that evolved on my desk... I loved being able to open it up and learn about components and, on my own, change drives and add graphic cards and newly invented peripherals...
Can confirm that Windows 8.1 task manager has the startup tab as well. Something to keep in mind is that not all startup items will show up in Task Manager. Startup items in Task Scheduler will not show up in Task Manager, there may be programs in the Startup folder / registry or whatever that don't show up in Task Manager and vice versa. Okay, some of these locations will show up, but you get the idea. There may be a startup program that doesn't show up in task manager, and you have to dig the registry, startup folders and other places for it.
I love this episode and picked up some nice pointers. Very informative channel you have here. Great content and great concept for a channel. To be honest I feel more people should be watching this channel as it provides something new to learn every episode. I’ve been working on pc’s for a little over 20 years and manage to add something to my knowledge base. Keep up this in depth content. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 😁👍🖐
Hi, I enjoy your vids. The case is the node 304 and you are right 6 drives is impressive for the size. Same reason I am using it for. I am a little triggered, when you say you hate leaving stuff out of the case and showing at the same time one of the rubber thingies of drive cages missing. You lost it in your ghosting machine, btw.
Just to confirm that during the good old days Norton Ghost was THE BEST data cloning tool. I used to work at an Internet Cafe and we would just re-load the images from all of our PCs one every two months. Take into account all the nasty stuff that our clients downloaded way back when torrents and other easy-access sites were scarce or restricted. With the clean system images created by Ghost recovering our computers was a breeze.
Hi, a tip on the defrag side, I use O&O defrag because it has a really useful feature called reorder & optimize plater. The reorder will put all the file in sequence on the drive removing all these empty unused blocks and optimize plater moves the whole /Windows/ directory into the first blocks of the disk. As you can see in your defrag tool, the MFT is slap bang in the middle of the drive. O&O will move this into the first 6 blocks of the drive.
Chromium is the base of Chrome and quite a few other internet browsers. Chrome is running on Chromium but has been google-fied. Edge is also based on Chromium, but has been Windows-fied. If you want to customise and get deep into the browser and know what you're doing then you can use Chromium, but if you just want it to work, which most of us do then you'll get the package such as Chrome.
Bruh. Chromium is not just Chrome. Chrome is Chromium with Google branding, spyware and bloat on it. Nobody should use Chrome anymore. Edge exists. Firefox exists.
@@crylune Hey, what if we use the "Google ecosystem"? We have mobile-phones with the Android OS on them and we're logged into Google and we use Chrome on them, therefore the Google (Chrome) details can be synchronized. Speaking in general not personally. I have a Huawei P40 Lite without Google-Services because at 160$ it's a beast, and I use AdBlock browser as the only browser on it.
Yeah, at 13:20 i fully agree with you on small factor cases. I personally think that midtower and full tower cases are the best. These small cases are ok as long as you dont want something very high end. When you decide to treat yourself with new beefy gpu or cpu cooler you start to meet bunch of compatibility issues and cable management trouble. Just nah, i always have my pc on the floor so im not really space sensitive so i use full atx case, corsair 780T which is damn awesome, and its so nice to work on, so much space, can fit any component on the market, totally worth it imo. The only micro atx form factor use i can see is HTPC other than that not much.
I'm sure you have seen this by now, but msconfig is a built in way to disable startup items but allow them to be turned back on if needed. Also, autoruns by Mark Russinovich is great for evaluating all startup entry points for software in Windows. And the rest of the SysInternals suite is full of handy I.T. tools.
He has answered in the comments, TaskManager + MSconfig only disable, and after windows updates for example they get re-enabled = potentially useless effort/short term result. Registry deletes the entries effectively so the job really is done. For example Windows 10 has annoyed me after updating, by re-enabling my privacy settings that I had to manually disable one-at-a-time again and again.
I actually used some free program I found on the internet years ago when I migrated off of a 2TB harddrive to a 250GB SSD. Worked flawlessly with no issues surprisingly. This was after I tried using some outdated software that came with my SSD that yelled at me about it lol.
thumbscrews on the drive carriers in the Node 304: You don't appreciate them until you try using standard screws. The thumbscrews are much easier _not_ to drop onto the motherboard. I have my home server in this case, with a total of 7 drives (the 7th being the boot SSD mounted through the bottom air intake), and the drives are cool without audible fan noise, even as stuffed as it is.
slap in i7 and some decent SFF modular psu and thing will live on some time,btw chassis looks healthy for future ITX upgrades cause lets be real modern stuff will help greatly this pc look better
Stumbled on this and I must say from a collectors standpoint, the owner should be certain to keep all those upgraded parts because that computer IS a collectors item and will be worth a lot in a short time. I hope they can still get a copy of Win 7 just to stick on it when it is sold.
11:48 What you can do is split the PWM pin of that fan header to multiple fans (Works better while using fans of the same model) while connecting the fans to a different source of power (E.g. Directly to the PSU). >DO NOT SPLIT THE TACH PIN/ONLY PLUG THE TACH PIN TO ONE FAN< (usually the first fan on the chain). Leave the secondary fans without it. Tach is the pin that lets the fan controller know the fan speed. Due to manufacturing tolerances not even fans of the same model run exactly at the same speed for a giving PWM signal. If the controller receives multiple mixed speed signals it might run the fans at full speed, keep ramping it up and down, not turn them on or burn them down (not sure about the last one but better to keep it in mind to be safe). This is similar to what many GPUs with 2 or more fans do. If you look at their fan wiring you will notice that the first fan is connected to 4 wires (Gound, 12v, tach, PWM) while the secondary ones are connected to 3 wires leaving the Tach out. PWM fans deal with power by themselves using the PWM signal as a guide. The only reason you SHOULD NOT split the 12v and ground directly from the motherboard fan header to the secondary fans is to not current overload the fan header.
@@TheRealCybermazeas I said in reply to nahventure, autostart should *not* be in *advanced* , that's ridiculous... but then again it's Spotify, where every track is a "song" (even if it has no singing in it), different artists with the same name are under the same "artist", the track naming is stupid: *Title - Main Version* or *Title - Original Mix* and *then* the artist to the right or in smaller font, because apparently *Artist - Title* would be too difficult, etc etc
As far as all of the startup applications go, I would have upgraded to Windows 10 then used the taskmanager to disable them. Also, with regards to Chromium, it's already been said that it isn't a specific developer tool, however, there are lots of apps that use Chromium for basic network interactions.
Have to be careful with that, I had an instance where a Windows 10 feature "upgrade" set them back to default & had to sort out a system with two locations both in use. I hate Win 10.
Honestly, for, the small difference in cost it really is prudent to put at least a 1TB drive in on an upgrade like that. A reasonable 1TB SSD is what, £90 to £120 and as you say it can migrate to a new build later. It would give him far more system space as I can see that getting cluttered again PDQ given the state it was already in. Personally I would have upgraded MB, CPU and ram but that's entirely up to the customer. However I consider, in this guys case, a 1TB essential .
I'm also a PC tech and I can confirm that apps that are disabled in the start-up tab can sometimes still open. Deleting them in the registry and task scheduler assures that they never open on startup
Norton Ghost Network Distribution is really cool though, you could push an Image to multiple computers on the network all at once. I found it very handy because I used to manage a computer lab in college
if this person come back offer a i5-4460 or i5-4470 they are dirt cheap on ebay and should clear the bottleneck on the 590 and give a excuse to re paste cpu lol good video!
That's a good shout. I did do burn-in tests off-camera and CPU temps were fine. System is fairly quiet for an SFF. I think this is probably down to the CPU having a low TDP more than anything else though.
Eh, Idk. I had an i7 system with completely spent thermal paste. I've never seen a substance so dry in my life. But the heat sink was undisturbed, so the thermal interface was still good. At least that's how I justify things... because even after applying some new thermal paste (some silver based thing) the temps were just about them same. Definitely not worth the effort.
Hi there, I love your videos. Just wanted to say that you can use a program called Macrium Reflect for cloning mechanical hard drives to SSDs. It creates entire hard drive clones with resizing and what's most puzzling for me, it does it even from within Windows itself. Not sure how it does that. Just in case you didn't know about it. Cheers.
Macronis Reflect is the software i have been using to clone an HDD to SSD. Has a free version (non-commercial license) and automatically partitions the SSD.
G3258 is special edition CPU that can be overclocked, even on that low-end H81 mobo. I run a G3258 on a MSI H81M-P33 with 4.5GHz on both of those tiny cores :D
I personally would have put a used gtx 970 in a system like that, a brand new 590 is overkill and probably bottlenecked. This is just what I would do, I'm not saying your wrong lol, I like watching your videos, I feel you actually care about the client and go above and beyond in alot of cases.
I have this CPU in a tower and the overclocking headroom is immense. On stock cooler I raised it from 3.2 to 4.2ghz without changing the voltage and the load temp is still sub 60 degrees.
I've been in this situation before and what I use is mini partition tool or since humble bundle basically gave it for pennies easeus partition master. If i'm not mistaken both resize partitions to fit smaller ssds
I'm aware this is an "old" video, BUUUT, regarding the monitor connection: all graphics cards have HDMI output, and only this year (while hearing lots of people not having money for new monitors after spending it to get a new gaming graphics card) I found that there are also cheap adapters for HDMI to DVI input. With these 4-5$ monitor-adapters (not graphic-cards) everyone I know that bought a new gaming graphics-card, no longer with VGA/DVI on them but all with HDMI, I asked them to buy HDMI cables if they didn't already have any for their tv's/consoles, that's 3$, and plug the cable in their cards + the adapter in their monitor, works flawlessly. Fortunately I finally no longer know anyone with VGA monitors, all have either VGA+DVI or DVI. I don't think I can source cheap HDMI-VGA adapters in my country, I only found at 14$ and that's absurd. And people get to keep their monitor that they like and was probably also an expensive investment a while ago.
The case would probably take a mini atx motherboard. I like that form factor and it is what I normally chose. Paired with a mini atx you have quite a bit of expansion options and motherboard choice.
When I want to clone a drive to an SSD, my preferred technique is to use dd to clone the drive to a file (I always double and triple check what I'm doing, don't do this unless you know what you're doing) then use GParted to resize the partitions and move any partitions at the end of the drive as far towards the beginning as possible such that all partitions fit within the space available on the SSD. I then clone the drive to another file, and then write that file to the SSD, and once that's finished, I'll use fdisk/gdisk to verify that the partitions are valid and fix any issues with the partition table not matching the drive capacity, and then test boot the SSD in the destination PC and let it run chkdsk. If the clone works, I then run GParted on the destination PC and resize/move the partitions to fill the SSD. This sounds complicated, and it has its risks (dd is known as data destroyer for a reason) but because every other program and method I've ever used has been utter trash and rarely worked, I switched to this method a while ago and had zero issues since. Chrome is based on Chromium, which is the open source web browser without Google's tracking crap crammed into it, I wouldn't just uninstall a users web browser willy-nilly, I'll always verify that the user doesn't use or need it before removing it.
The thing with that CPU is that it is overclockable! Even with the H81 and H87 boards, you could run these easily at like 4.5 GHz, back in the day monsterous for the low end and not much worse in a lot of games than i5s and i7s offered
18:17 aah it's good seeing somebody who blows the air the opposite direction of the fan when cleaning. Far to often do i see people do it the same way as the fan. Particularly hurtfull to me when they do it with some sort of blower cooler (gpu/laptop).
spotify: advanced> "open spotify automatically...." options are: yes , no or minimized. also: run > msconfig and for those following along at home, you can play with scheduled tasks in ccleaner quite nicely w/o having to go into computer management.
autostart should *not* be in *advanced* , that's ridiculous... but then again it's Spotify, where every track is a "song" (even if it has no singing in it), different artists with the same name are under the same "artist", the track naming is stupid: *Title - Main Version* or *Title - Original Mix* and *then* the artist to the right or in smaller font, because apparently *Artist - Title* would be too difficult, etc etc
Im currently doing a SFF PC which is like a really budget VR PC. Only thing I am worried with is the 4GB Vram with my gtx 970, but I may change it to a RX 580 or GTX 1070 if I can get any good deals. The phanteks case I am using though, the Enthoo shift case is difficult to work with. PSU cables oh boy!
A 970 is fine for vr if you're not expecting the highest details, and if you did get either an RX or a 1070, 1070 would be a higher jump in performance.
I totally agree. Those older i7 CPUs still are okay, and will be fine for the next two to three years for gaming. (not the fastest, but okay, should get 60fps in most games) The older pentium CPUs are way too slow for anything modern (many things won't even launch with just two cores)
@@ericthemauve what is the point of this Video? IMO it is to get this "special" computer to a somewhat okay performance without spending a lot of money. An old i7 (or Xeon) satisfies this. Its not too expensive...
I think it would have been better to keep the one white bracket (perforated with holes if you wanna be creative) as they are sturdy enough to withstand a bit of structural weakness. The air flow trade off would have been worth the effort given how compact everything was.
19:14 Another solution is to use a software that can resize the partition without losing date. There are many that can do it and you can also find some free ones. (E.g. DiskGenius, MiniTool Partition Wizard, EaseUS Partition Manager...) After resizing the partition to a size that can fit inside the SSD you can clone it. To keep it safe make a backup of the HDD before doing the resize.
I need to test some of those. The software I use for imaging is terribly out of date, but better the devil you know, right? Every now and then there's an outlier job that turns into a massive ball-ache because of old software though.
@@Adamant_IT I use Acronis software for cloning from HDDs to SSDs, also from old SSDs to new SSDs, was always successful and it is still supported/updated - if you get the newest version... Anyway, I just want to confirm Vitor's comment: resizing the C partition on the HDD before cloning is a golden rule on Cloning, otherwise you'll have the worst possible time... If you did not use Acronis before and have some time, you can try the Pirate version first to see how it works and suits your needs. It has also a boot-disk .ISO to run off a stick, I usually just stick both drives in my stronk and fast gaming-PC. Obviously if you have the client PC turned on, running windows of the HDD, and cloning the HDD, cloning is going to work at a range from snail-speed to infinite-loop...
SSD's are fast. But for price nothing can beat a regular "old" hard drive. Can get a SSD to speed up the booting, etc. But for storage nothing can beat the size and price of a hard drive. People will state that SSD is "the way to go." But for me, the price of two 4TB hard drives are still less than one 2TB SSD.
For space problems in a case with sata drives you could use a 90 degree sata cable, also upgrading from a spin drive to a ssd there is a whole check list you need to do to effectivly utilise the ssd. Also if u managed to do a disk cleanup before migrating you would remove atleast 15gb
Whenever I see a second 'Data' drive, I move all my libraries over. Partly to give the data drive something to do but mainly because my Music folder is 380 Gb. I have a large CD collection and even larger Audio Book collection. I also change the environment variables to point to a temp / tmp folder on the data drive. Some stuff in \AppData\Roaming (BattleNet for one) goes in the 'Users' folder on the D drive.
I also uninstalled CCleaner, because I heard they had begun mining peoples' data. I installed another one. Can't remember which. Am watching this on my Macbook Pro.
Yup, even i7 2600K at 4.2 GHz OC and 1.35v still is unexpectedly good at everything! If these chips were 6 core 12 threads, there would have been no reason to replace them even now 10 years later. I'm aware cheap second-hand HEDT and Xeons exist but it's difficult to find working+reliable+cheap motherboards for them. That being said, still cannot retire these overperforming i7 CPUs as they are still better than any 100$ CPU and second-hand 4-8 GB sticks of DDR3 is cheap and easy to find.
A SSD will load programs load faster, but it will not make the cpu go any faster. Any program that is cpu intensive will not go any faster. Then will see that the pc still as slow as it was before.
That would be the Node 304 www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-304/black/ Its frustrating to see they didn't bother to clean the dust filters, the front intake specifically needs doing weekly as its very effective at blocking dust. I have the normal white version of that case and was actually running an RTX 2080 and 9900K in it with a Noctua NH-D15s. It was a VERY tight fit with all the drive cages removed (improves airflow quite a bit even without any drives installed), really noisy at full load as its frustratingly hobbled by the front intake fans being so small, even swapping for Noctuas couldn't make up the difference. If they redesigned the case for at least a 120mm I think it would have made a huge difference. I only recently re-built everything into a BeQuiet Pure Base 500DX in anticipation of getting an RTX 3000 series card and not having to use a noisy blower cooler.
25:36 that was not as ugly a task as I thought it would be when you described it. as for the third cage, I liked the dremel idea better but that is my own O.C.D. issue.
DDU can be a bit overzealous at times as well. As far as uninstalling programs I used to use PCDecrapifier. It made the process of clearing up old OEM machines super easy.
My toshiba laptop used to run windows 7 then a windows 10 update popped up and i updated even before the end of life for windows 7! Even my sisters old pc that ran windows 7 updated to windows 10!
I don't know if someone said it before but you can use Macrium Reflect which is free and very fast. I have been using it for years whith no problems at all.
I know this is old video but there CCleaner in the background there use that that do fix everything that allows you to turn things off and on so they don't start up on start at the windows I mean I use it and it works perfectly
To the people who are saying "BUT THAT GPU IS BOTTLE-NECKED BY THE CPU... SUCH A WASTE..."
Yes, of course it is. But consider that this is the real world and someone's got to pay for these upgrades. If we replace the CPU, we also have to change the RAM and Mobo, because 4th gen is a dead-end. And we'll still need a new GPU and SSD. So suddenly the customer has to pay £400-500+ for CPU, RAM, Mobo, GPU, SSD.
Instead we went for an SSD and GPU, which despite being bottle-necked, will provide a speed boost right away for £200-250, and in the future when the rest of the PC is upgraded, they can be used with those upgrades to further unlock their potential.
I specced these upgrades based on what the customer was able to afford at the time, with mind that more upgrades should be done in the future.
true, upgrading a pc is not the same as building a new system. last year I upgraded my old A10-5800K with a new Ryzen 5 2600 which meant that I had to upgrade the motherboard and RAM as well, since the A10 uses FM2 socket and it was still DDR3. boi was it an expensive upgrade.
@Garga Mel in most places they are, $100 for a 4770, client needed it and payed for it.
@Garga Mel Around £80 for a 4770 and around £90 for a 4790. Add £20 or so for the K version in both cases. But as has been said, you are heading down a blind alleyway with that upgrade.
@Garga Mel Im in the u.s. but I got my 4790 for 100 usd. It suits me very well for now.
@@lm_dccxl4078 *paid*
Hiya, I used to work for Chillblast back when Yogscast was popular and I can confirm that the zip tie was on there for shipping purposes as we had a number of machines returned due to the fan falling off in shipping
I might have been the one who build the original machine and applied the vinyl wrap as there was only me and one other guy building the Yogscast machines
Love watching the videos very relaxing to watch
I went on the current "Official Yogscast Gaming PCs" page on the Chillblast website, and looking at the three tiers iI'm guessing it was similar with these old ones, and this would have been the "Lite" / low end one I'm guessing...? I also found a taller version of this old one on Google Images. The new ones seem to be higher specced *for* the tier *for* them being 7 years newer though...?
Even the LITE has:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Memory: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB
Storage: 250GB SSD / 1TB Seagate HDD
Operating System: Windows 10 Home
The CPU and RAM and storage I can kind-of understand, but a 1660 Super on the lowest tier...? I would've thought that would be a 1650, as that would match up with the 750 here...?
Just found your channel recently, and I have learnt more from you in 2 days than any other channel. Well done explaining things in detail!
I love the way in which you take care of the customer's computers as if they were your own. I always thought that people like you (and me) are rare. I don't do repairs of other's hardware (except friends & family) but I always take care of other's people's property as if it was mine. Kudos to you sir!
10 years ago I spent a week with the Norton Ghost as I was tasked with updating/cloning every PC in the college over the summer.
I think I forgot about that until today. What a throwback! Our installs were roughly 18GB, so they went faster, but not slow enough where I could leave to do other things.
thank you for making these videos, its good to see someone not cut out all the simple things or edit for time and not show how things are done, i used 1 of your videos already to trouble shoot my sons pc and sure enough he had a bad ram stick, many thanks for saving me money cause i can do it myself, being a disabled vet i dont have 100 to have a pc checked out, you sir are a god send for us poor people just trying to get by
Love these laid-back but in-depth videos; perfect Sunday afternoon viewing! That cpu though...
Got caught by the catchy intro and stuck around for just a cool chill IT dude
That case is so quirky but really functional if you use a downward facing CPU cooler. I stuffed mine with 6x 3.5" drives as well as 2 SSDs, one on the outside of each outer drive sled.
Obviously that's not the best scenario for a gaming setup but I was just using it as a file and Plex server at the time.
Smart phone and internet, dedicated slim laptops are of a different breed. I thrilled at having a desktop that evolved on my desk... I loved being able to open it up and learn about components and, on my own, change drives and add graphic cards and newly invented peripherals...
Great! I love giving old PC's a second life! Thanks for sharing , Dutch regards, Nico.
I never knew we could disable all those startup items in the registry. I learn something new. Thank you so much.
you can use task manager. Go to: Task manager > Start-up and disable any software that you dont want to start up
@@R0V0lv0 That's only on Windows 10 (and maybe Windows 8). On Windows 7 you would've had to go into "msconfig" and the boot tab.
Can confirm that Windows 8.1 task manager has the startup tab as well. Something to keep in mind is that not all startup items will show up in Task Manager. Startup items in Task Scheduler will not show up in Task Manager, there may be programs in the Startup folder / registry or whatever that don't show up in Task Manager and vice versa. Okay, some of these locations will show up, but you get the idea. There may be a startup program that doesn't show up in task manager, and you have to dig the registry, startup folders and other places for it.
This is the beauty of PC building, a tired PC can become almost like new again with a few upgrades!
“Chromium is a developer tool, shouldn’t be on a general use computer”
Welp... that’s my main browser for school work...
Maybe your IT guy uses Linux.
Great video and lovely unique computer 😀😀🌱 ♥️ SFF PCs.
Done that several times. But always nice to just watch it... Great video!
Thank you very much for all this very helpful information 😊
I love this episode and picked up some nice pointers. Very informative channel you have here. Great content and great concept for a channel. To be honest I feel more people should be watching this channel as it provides something new to learn every episode. I’ve been working on pc’s for a little over 20 years and manage to add something to my knowledge base. Keep up this in depth content. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺 😁👍🖐
13:29 "the new NZXT H1, don't, just don't you'll regret it" prophetic words there. Can you do my lottery numbers this week? :-)
Hi, I enjoy your vids. The case is the node 304 and you are right 6 drives is impressive for the size. Same reason I am using it for.
I am a little triggered, when you say you hate leaving stuff out of the case and showing at the same time one of the rubber thingies of drive cages missing. You lost it in your ghosting machine, btw.
Yeah, I noticed the missing rubber grommet too.
We use macrium reflect for cloning and it seems to work well and is fairly fast.
The Yogscast were great! Don't watch them much anymore but used to watch there minecraft letsplays all the time.
Just to confirm that during the good old days Norton Ghost was THE BEST data cloning tool. I used to work at an Internet Cafe and we would just re-load the images from all of our PCs one every two months. Take into account all the nasty stuff that our clients downloaded way back when torrents and other easy-access sites were scarce or restricted. With the clean system images created by Ghost recovering our computers was a breeze.
Hi, a tip on the defrag side, I use O&O defrag because it has a really useful feature called reorder & optimize plater.
The reorder will put all the file in sequence on the drive removing all these empty unused blocks and optimize plater moves the whole /Windows/ directory into the first blocks of the disk.
As you can see in your defrag tool, the MFT is slap bang in the middle of the drive. O&O will move this into the first 6 blocks of the drive.
If I disassemble it so far, I also change the thermal paste, on a PC that still has a GTX 750, it will be on it for years.
I actually found this channel because i watch Yogscast and this showed up as a reommended video.
DAMN Ghost bring me back to some good memory! Windows XP baby
I don't think Chromium is a developer tool. It's just Chrome with less Google stuff. It is probably more common among developers, though.
Yep Chromium is just Chrome. Comes as standard on Linux
Chromium is the base of Chrome and quite a few other internet browsers.
Chrome is running on Chromium but has been google-fied.
Edge is also based on Chromium, but has been Windows-fied.
If you want to customise and get deep into the browser and know what you're doing then you can use Chromium,
but if you just want it to work, which most of us do then you'll get the package such as Chrome.
Bruh. Chromium is not just Chrome.
Chrome is Chromium with Google branding, spyware and bloat on it.
Nobody should use Chrome anymore. Edge exists. Firefox exists.
@@crylune Hey, what if we use the "Google ecosystem"? We have mobile-phones with the Android OS on them and we're logged into Google and we use Chrome on them, therefore the Google (Chrome) details can be synchronized. Speaking in general not personally. I have a Huawei P40 Lite without Google-Services because at 160$ it's a beast, and I use AdBlock browser as the only browser on it.
Yeah, at 13:20 i fully agree with you on small factor cases. I personally think that midtower and full tower cases are the best. These small cases are ok as long as you dont want something very high end. When you decide to treat yourself with new beefy gpu or cpu cooler you start to meet bunch of compatibility issues and cable management trouble. Just nah, i always have my pc on the floor so im not really space sensitive so i use full atx case, corsair 780T which is damn awesome, and its so nice to work on, so much space, can fit any component on the market, totally worth it imo. The only micro atx form factor use i can see is HTPC other than that not much.
I'm sure you have seen this by now, but msconfig is a built in way to disable startup items but allow them to be turned back on if needed. Also, autoruns by Mark Russinovich is great for evaluating all startup entry points for software in Windows. And the rest of the SysInternals suite is full of handy I.T. tools.
He has answered in the comments, TaskManager + MSconfig only disable, and after windows updates for example they get re-enabled = potentially useless effort/short term result. Registry deletes the entries effectively so the job really is done. For example Windows 10 has annoyed me after updating, by re-enabling my privacy settings that I had to manually disable one-at-a-time again and again.
I enjoyed learning a bit more about migrating drives and seeing the inside of this interesting fractal design. Thanks for the upload.
I actually used some free program I found on the internet years ago when I migrated off of a 2TB harddrive to a 250GB SSD. Worked flawlessly with no issues surprisingly.
This was after I tried using some outdated software that came with my SSD that yelled at me about it lol.
thumbscrews on the drive carriers in the Node 304: You don't appreciate them until you try using standard screws. The thumbscrews are much easier _not_ to drop onto the motherboard. I have my home server in this case, with a total of 7 drives (the 7th being the boot SSD mounted through the bottom air intake), and the drives are cool without audible fan noise, even as stuffed as it is.
slap in i7 and some decent SFF modular psu and thing will live on some time,btw chassis looks healthy for future ITX upgrades cause lets be real modern stuff will help greatly this pc look better
Stumbled on this and I must say from a collectors standpoint, the owner should be certain to keep all those upgraded parts because that computer IS a collectors item and will be worth a lot in a short time. I hope they can still get a copy of Win 7 just to stick on it when it is sold.
11:48 What you can do is split the PWM pin of that fan header to multiple fans (Works better while using fans of the same model) while connecting the fans to a different source of power (E.g. Directly to the PSU).
>DO NOT SPLIT THE TACH PIN/ONLY PLUG THE TACH PIN TO ONE FAN< (usually the first fan on the chain). Leave the secondary fans without it. Tach is the pin that lets the fan controller know the fan speed.
Due to manufacturing tolerances not even fans of the same model run exactly at the same speed for a giving PWM signal. If the controller receives multiple mixed speed signals it might run the fans at full speed, keep ramping it up and down, not turn them on or burn them down (not sure about the last one but better to keep it in mind to be safe).
This is similar to what many GPUs with 2 or more fans do. If you look at their fan wiring you will notice that the first fan is connected to 4 wires (Gound, 12v, tach, PWM) while the secondary ones are connected to 3 wires leaving the Tach out.
PWM fans deal with power by themselves using the PWM signal as a guide. The only reason you SHOULD NOT split the 12v and ground directly from the motherboard fan header to the secondary fans is to not current overload the fan header.
I approve of the explanations you give
I think Spotify's autostart is in the so-called "advanced" settings...
It is.
@@TheRealCybermazeas I said in reply to nahventure, autostart should *not* be in *advanced* , that's ridiculous... but then again it's Spotify, where every track is a "song" (even if it has no singing in it), different artists with the same name are under the same "artist", the track naming is stupid: *Title - Main Version* or *Title - Original Mix* and *then* the artist to the right or in smaller font, because apparently *Artist - Title* would be too difficult, etc etc
Really enjoyed that one....thanks
As far as all of the startup applications go, I would have upgraded to Windows 10 then used the taskmanager to disable them. Also, with regards to Chromium, it's already been said that it isn't a specific developer tool, however, there are lots of apps that use Chromium for basic network interactions.
Cpu will be a massive bottleneck for that gpu. Great video though. Really enjoying looking through your vids 👍
"The realm of no resolution" that was great.
I always move the Windows libraries (Documents, Photos, etc.) off the system drive as well. Move them once and be done with it.
How can I do that?
@@oldbatwit5102 It's super easy www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/moving-your-personal-data-folders-in-windows-vista-the-easy-way/
Have to be careful with that, I had an instance where a Windows 10 feature "upgrade" set them back to default & had to sort out a system with two locations both in use. I hate Win 10.
@@beardyface8492 I've never seen that happen, but it's Microsoft, after all, so anything is possible.
Honestly, for, the small difference in cost it really is prudent to put at least a 1TB drive in on an upgrade like that. A reasonable 1TB SSD is what, £90 to £120 and as you say it can migrate to a new build later. It would give him far more system space as I can see that getting cluttered again PDQ given the state it was already in. Personally I would have upgraded MB, CPU and ram but that's entirely up to the customer. However I consider, in this guys case, a 1TB essential .
task manager has a start-up tab. You can disable then on startup from there
he was doing it the proper way, through the registry.
I'm also a PC tech and I can confirm that apps that are disabled in the start-up tab can sometimes still open. Deleting them in the registry and task scheduler assures that they never open on startup
Redrum would msconfig be another alternative?
@@HannahFortalezza msconfig was merged with Task managers Startup tab.
Hi - ahh cool! Thanks for the info
Norton Ghost Network Distribution is really cool though, you could push an Image to multiple computers on the network all at once. I found it very handy because I used to manage a computer lab in college
if this person come back offer a i5-4460 or i5-4470 they are dirt cheap on ebay and should clear the bottleneck on the 590 and give a excuse to re paste cpu lol good video!
just watched your psu video, very good explanation
i would have replaced the thermal paste
That's a good shout. I did do burn-in tests off-camera and CPU temps were fine. System is fairly quiet for an SFF. I think this is probably down to the CPU having a low TDP more than anything else though.
Eh, Idk. I had an i7 system with completely spent thermal paste. I've never seen a substance so dry in my life. But the heat sink was undisturbed, so the thermal interface was still good. At least that's how I justify things... because even after applying some new thermal paste (some silver based thing) the temps were just about them same. Definitely not worth the effort.
@@herrpez i have had dry thermal paste replacement give me 5-7c on GPUs before, other times hardly 1c, it just depends.
Hi there, I love your videos. Just wanted to say that you can use a program called Macrium Reflect for cloning mechanical hard drives to SSDs. It creates entire hard drive clones with resizing and what's most puzzling for me, it does it even from within Windows itself. Not sure how it does that. Just in case you didn't know about it. Cheers.
Macronis Reflect is the software i have been using to clone an HDD to SSD. Has a free version (non-commercial license) and automatically partitions the SSD.
Just a quick piece of advice, for cloning you can use minitool partition wizard 10 it´s free and really good.
G3258 is special edition CPU that can be overclocked, even on that low-end H81 mobo.
I run a G3258 on a MSI H81M-P33 with 4.5GHz on both of those tiny cores :D
I personally would have put a used gtx 970 in a system like that, a brand new 590 is overkill and probably bottlenecked. This is just what I would do, I'm not saying your wrong lol, I like watching your videos, I feel you actually care about the client and go above and beyond in alot of cases.
that case is a node 304
I have this CPU in a tower and the overclocking headroom is immense. On stock cooler I raised it from 3.2 to 4.2ghz without changing the voltage and the load temp is still sub 60 degrees.
Great. Information. It. Will. Be. Handy.
For. Me. As well
the g3258 is the anniversary edition and has an unlocked multiplier!!
I've been in this situation before and what I use is mini partition tool or since humble bundle basically gave it for pennies easeus partition master. If i'm not mistaken both resize partitions to fit smaller ssds
I'm aware this is an "old" video, BUUUT, regarding the monitor connection: all graphics cards have HDMI output, and only this year (while hearing lots of people not having money for new monitors after spending it to get a new gaming graphics card) I found that there are also cheap adapters for HDMI to DVI input. With these 4-5$ monitor-adapters (not graphic-cards) everyone I know that bought a new gaming graphics-card, no longer with VGA/DVI on them but all with HDMI, I asked them to buy HDMI cables if they didn't already have any for their tv's/consoles, that's 3$, and plug the cable in their cards + the adapter in their monitor, works flawlessly. Fortunately I finally no longer know anyone with VGA monitors, all have either VGA+DVI or DVI. I don't think I can source cheap HDMI-VGA adapters in my country, I only found at 14$ and that's absurd. And people get to keep their monitor that they like and was probably also an expensive investment a while ago.
8:22 you killing me putting the customers vinyl wrapped surface pc on the gravel covered ground like that
Wouldn't case any damage.
You need movement to cause a scratch.
@@DanielMosey i think the action of placing it and removing it is called movement
@@Dizzra1 Don't be an idiot.
The case would probably take a mini atx motherboard. I like that form factor and it is what I normally chose. Paired with a mini atx you have quite a bit of expansion options and motherboard choice.
When I want to clone a drive to an SSD, my preferred technique is to use dd to clone the drive to a file (I always double and triple check what I'm doing, don't do this unless you know what you're doing) then use GParted to resize the partitions and move any partitions at the end of the drive as far towards the beginning as possible such that all partitions fit within the space available on the SSD.
I then clone the drive to another file, and then write that file to the SSD, and once that's finished, I'll use fdisk/gdisk to verify that the partitions are valid and fix any issues with the partition table not matching the drive capacity, and then test boot the SSD in the destination PC and let it run chkdsk.
If the clone works, I then run GParted on the destination PC and resize/move the partitions to fill the SSD.
This sounds complicated, and it has its risks (dd is known as data destroyer for a reason) but because every other program and method I've ever used has been utter trash and rarely worked, I switched to this method a while ago and had zero issues since.
Chrome is based on Chromium, which is the open source web browser without Google's tracking crap crammed into it, I wouldn't just uninstall a users web browser willy-nilly, I'll always verify that the user doesn't use or need it before removing it.
Great video
The thing with that CPU is that it is overclockable! Even with the H81 and H87 boards, you could run these easily at like 4.5 GHz, back in the day monsterous for the low end and not much worse in a lot of games than i5s and i7s offered
18:17 aah it's good seeing somebody who blows the air the opposite direction of the fan when cleaning. Far to often do i see people do it the same way as the fan. Particularly hurtfull to me when they do it with some sort of blower cooler (gpu/laptop).
spotify: advanced> "open spotify automatically...." options are: yes , no or minimized.
also: run > msconfig
and for those following along at home, you can play with scheduled tasks in ccleaner quite nicely w/o having to go into computer management.
autostart should *not* be in *advanced* , that's ridiculous... but then again it's Spotify, where every track is a "song" (even if it has no singing in it), different artists with the same name are under the same "artist", the track naming is stupid: *Title - Main Version* or *Title - Original Mix* and *then* the artist to the right or in smaller font, because apparently *Artist - Title* would be too difficult, etc etc
Im currently doing a SFF PC which is like a really budget VR PC. Only thing I am worried with is the 4GB Vram with my gtx 970, but I may change it to a RX 580 or GTX 1070 if I can get any good deals.
The phanteks case I am using though, the Enthoo shift case is difficult to work with. PSU cables oh boy!
A 970 is fine for vr if you're not expecting the highest details, and if you did get either an RX or a 1070, 1070 would be a higher jump in performance.
Massive overkill fan for that pentium
The CPU needs to be changed to an i7 4790k at least
I totally agree. Those older i7 CPUs still are okay, and will be fine for the next two to three years for gaming. (not the fastest, but okay, should get 60fps in most games)
The older pentium CPUs are way too slow for anything modern (many things won't even launch with just two cores)
...and that's why you're 'Clueless'. You've completely misunderstood the point of this video!
@@ericthemauve what is the point of this Video? IMO it is to get this "special" computer to a somewhat okay performance without spending a lot of money. An old i7 (or Xeon) satisfies this. Its not too expensive...
its easier to stop programs on startup from the task manager :)
chill video 👍
I think it would have been better to keep the one white bracket (perforated with holes if you wanna be creative) as they are sturdy enough to withstand a bit of structural weakness. The air flow trade off would have been worth the effort given how compact everything was.
19:14 Another solution is to use a software that can resize the partition without losing date. There are many that can do it and you can also find some free ones. (E.g. DiskGenius, MiniTool Partition Wizard, EaseUS Partition Manager...)
After resizing the partition to a size that can fit inside the SSD you can clone it.
To keep it safe make a backup of the HDD before doing the resize.
I need to test some of those. The software I use for imaging is terribly out of date, but better the devil you know, right?
Every now and then there's an outlier job that turns into a massive ball-ache because of old software though.
I have used Ubuntu to do an image copy using the dd commands.
@@Adamant_IT I use Acronis software for cloning from HDDs to SSDs, also from old SSDs to new SSDs, was always successful and it is still supported/updated - if you get the newest version... Anyway, I just want to confirm Vitor's comment: resizing the C partition on the HDD before cloning is a golden rule on Cloning, otherwise you'll have the worst possible time... If you did not use Acronis before and have some time, you can try the Pirate version first to see how it works and suits your needs. It has also a boot-disk .ISO to run off a stick, I usually just stick both drives in my stronk and fast gaming-PC. Obviously if you have the client PC turned on, running windows of the HDD, and cloning the HDD, cloning is going to work at a range from snail-speed to infinite-loop...
Partition Minitool will let you do what diskpart does in a nice interface.
SSD's are fast. But for price nothing can beat a regular "old" hard drive. Can get a SSD to speed up the booting, etc. But for storage nothing can beat the size and price of a hard drive. People will state that SSD is "the way to go." But for me, the price of two 4TB hard drives are still less than one 2TB SSD.
For space problems in a case with sata drives you could use a 90 degree sata cable, also upgrading from a spin drive to a ssd there is a whole check list you need to do to effectivly utilise the ssd. Also if u managed to do a disk cleanup before migrating you would remove atleast 15gb
Those Regedit tweaks were useful; thanks.
another great video
Whenever I see a second 'Data' drive, I move all my libraries over.
Partly to give the data drive something to do but mainly because my Music folder is 380 Gb.
I have a large CD collection and even larger Audio Book collection.
I also change the environment variables to point to a temp / tmp folder on the data drive. Some stuff in \AppData\Roaming (BattleNet for one) goes in the 'Users' folder on the D drive.
35:12 aww that old windows 7 usb connection and disconnection sound
Late to the party and enjoying the vids. Quick "Q" why did you not applly fresh thermal paste as part of the service ?
I also uninstalled CCleaner, because I heard they had begun mining peoples' data. I installed another one. Can't remember which. Am watching this on my Macbook Pro.
hm kinda wondering if a 120 AIO watercooler would've fitted in there
I still use my i7 3770k for things like Doom etc, works fine even with my VIVE.
Yup, even i7 2600K at 4.2 GHz OC and 1.35v still is unexpectedly good at everything! If these chips were 6 core 12 threads, there would have been no reason to replace them even now 10 years later. I'm aware cheap second-hand HEDT and Xeons exist but it's difficult to find working+reliable+cheap motherboards for them. That being said, still cannot retire these overperforming i7 CPUs as they are still better than any 100$ CPU and second-hand 4-8 GB sticks of DDR3 is cheap and easy to find.
A SSD will load programs load faster, but it will not make the cpu go any faster. Any program that is cpu intensive will not go any faster. Then will see that the pc still as slow as it was before.
That would be the Node 304 www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-304/black/ Its frustrating to see they didn't bother to clean the dust filters, the front intake specifically needs doing weekly as its very effective at blocking dust.
I have the normal white version of that case and was actually running an RTX 2080 and 9900K in it with a Noctua NH-D15s. It was a VERY tight fit with all the drive cages removed (improves airflow quite a bit even without any drives installed), really noisy at full load as its frustratingly hobbled by the front intake fans being so small, even swapping for Noctuas couldn't make up the difference. If they redesigned the case for at least a 120mm I think it would have made a huge difference.
I only recently re-built everything into a BeQuiet Pure Base 500DX in anticipation of getting an RTX 3000 series card and not having to use a noisy blower cooler.
25:36 that was not as ugly a task as I thought it would be when you described it. as for the third cage, I liked the dremel idea better but that is my own O.C.D. issue.
Im usin Aomei partition assistant, when i clone drives. Works very good.
Yeah, throw that pristine case frontcover into the dirt... 8:30
That Case looks like a Fractal Design Node 304
why not acronis?
DDU can be a bit overzealous at times as well. As far as uninstalling programs I used to use PCDecrapifier. It made the process of clearing up old OEM machines super easy.
You know what else you can do? Clean install Windows, instead of using some dodgy ass “debloating” tool.
@@crylune this comment was made 3 years ago. These tools aren’t supported anymore and yes a clean install is best practice.
My toshiba laptop used to run windows 7 then a windows 10 update popped up and i updated even before the end of life for windows 7! Even my sisters old pc that ran windows 7 updated to windows 10!
I don't know if someone said it before but you can use Macrium Reflect which is free and very fast. I have been using it for years whith no problems at all.
I know this is old video but there CCleaner in the background there use that that do fix everything that allows you to turn things off and on so they don't start up on start at the windows I mean I use it and it works perfectly
ccleaner is a scam, i hope to christ you don't still use it
i have both a Fractal Meshify C and the S2 both are great cases
How much you charge for this (not including SSD and GC) ?
My labour charge on this would've been £50. Although I spent a lot of time, it would've been a fairly quick job were I not filming.
@@Adamant_IT Ok thank you. You're the boss?
@@user-yz1dl3eu8l one man shop
I always put a modular PSU in every SFF build for obvious reasons.
Tbh i would have upgraded the CPU instead of the gpu. A newer CPU would have probably helped in gaming and overall usage more Than a better gpu.