This is all fantastic to see. Just a word of caution from someone who has been there - if you keep going down on your meds and you still feel great, you might reach a point where you go - hey i'm feeling great! I'm cured! I can have a few more carbs, everybody else can have them, I'm sure it's fine - and you can very quickly find yourself not eating as much fat as you need and keeping carbs as low as you need. It is the equivalent of not taking your medications! It seems everyone has this experience when the diet is working because we like to think we are smarter than we really are. So just keep vigilant and maybe ask those around you to keep you accountable when that day comes. Because I think it is coming sooner rather than later! A good problem to have. Cheers! Also, for Rob - if you really need a laxative, up the MCT oil! Promise you it will do the trick - will help with ketones too
@@lotuspocus76312, we have many diseases related to food, that are still going on, even if food is the answer. And there is a lot of reaserch coming out in the past years that is connecting many mental disorders with inflammation, parasites, untreated infections and mineral deficiencies. Starting with Professor Cyndi Shannon Weickert on schizophrenia.
@@lotuspocus76312Lifestyle/diet changes are the answer to many disorders but people need to have the strength and motivation to make those changes. That's one reason why it definitely can't work for everyone.
I was very skeptical about the keto diet for mental health (without knowing anything about it admittedly) and I'm finding it very interesting. I'm a clinical psychologist so I'm following along to see how it works. I wish you continued success.
You might have to get used to it because it is the answer. It is also the answer to many other ailments, such as diabetes, potential cancers, dementia, and a whole host of other serious illnesses not just schizophrenia. I am sorry that the medical profession is so woefully inadequate to not know these things. I have been dealing with my sister’s illness and caring for her for 35 years. ua-cam.com/users/livenxolY67b6wA?si=inUb15HetLl48uc9
Nutrition is something drs really don’t spend much time studying in med school. We didn’t learn anything about it at all for my BA in psychology. I was going to go the med school route for psychiatry. But am doing PMHNP instead. 95% of serotonin is produced in the brain. We really are what we eat… and chronic inflammation is often a large reason why people experience mental illness overall. we need to take it more seriously and use meds as a third line approach… they’re too often thrown out as a first line and it’s inappropriate for most humans.
It's amazing how much you manage to get done and how you take care of yourself and try new things to do so, even though you're feeling so sedated and obviously experience the symptoms of schizoaffective disorder. I also have schizoaffective disorder but I can't bring myself to go to the gym lol instead I stay in bed, so great job on your journey, I mean it. Some days are hard and antipsychotics are really sedating so I'm happy to see you happy with your family, btw those keto bars look tasty xd
Be careful of some of those Keto food snacks. Every Keto snacks that I've seen on shelves, most of the time, have unhealthy ingredients like corn syrup. Keto falls in the line with Paleo and supposed to have natural ingredients. Corrupted food companies always find loop holes in laws to lie about what is in your food. For example, I just found out that "Corn Syrup", which I always say is very bad to consume, has more carbohydrates than wheat and table sugar and companies found a loop hole to not display the correct amount of "Carbs" that is in the food. Also, "Corn Syrup" is not actually categorized as a food since it is one of the most processed ingredients.
Soooo glad this person explains that “just b/c “ the company can legally claim that the product is Keto … does not mean it is safe . Sugar for example has 20 different names and wh😊en listed in the ingredients of the product container, customers won’t notice it and FDA continues with its flag “customer be aware”
And pesticides that tax the body and corrode gut health also - which is part of what doing keto is supposed to help reverse.. gut damage / inflammation etc. also the consumption of chocolate where there tends to be astronomical levels of Lead and Cadmium.. they accumulate in the body/brain and can contribute to an exacerbation of symptoms. just mentioning these things so ppl don’t hinder their own progress unknowingly, since the goal is to be FREE!!!!
I’m so glad you discovered keto. The benefits of keto has been know for decades and yet has been rejected and suppressed by establishment medicine who knows the least about any new evidence.
I appreciate that you are distinguishing between medical keto and regular keto. So many people do keto for weight loss and I can't imagine they would get the same results on the diet you are eating. But I don't really know for sure.
This is all really exciting, I'm so happy you're seeing great progress! I do feel kind of bad for Rob because I don't think the keto diet is the best for him LOL, mainly because he's grumpy, tired, sick from too much cheese, and losing weight when he doesn't want to. I feel like eventually, he could benefit from something like a paleo diet. But of course, I am an internet rando and I don't know everything about food or Rob. Hope he finds that balance!!
This is so great to watch you on this journey and see how it goes along with you! Thank you so much for doing this Lauren. A lot of the keto docs say just be careful of the “net carb” processed foods bc they can actually raise your blood sugar quite a bit depending on what they are saying is “insoluble” fiber etc. They say it’s best to check you blood sugar before and a certain amount of time after a low carb treat to make sure it’s not spiking your blood sugar.
I am happy that you are finding something to help you deal with your symptoms. I have had schizophrenia for over 25 years now I have been pretty fortunate with my meds situation. I have had to adjust them only a couple of times. My symptoms flare up around crowds and stress so as you know it can really be overwhelming. So I am happy you found keto. Best of Luck
Keto seems like it’s helping you a lot. I wish i could do it for my schizophrenia but i also have an eating disorder so more restrictions aren’t going to be healthy for me.
I'm sorry to hear that, that sounds really tough to handle. I hope something helps and maybe some day keto can be a possibility for you! I have schizoaffective disorder and a problem with binge eating so it's hard to try and start keto, so it kind of seems like the opposite problem to yours xd but maybe I'll try. Anyway good luck and I wish you good health.
I just read a paper on a new anorexia therapy using ketogenic therapy and when the body is in ketosis they added ketamine therapy. The combination seems to synergize remission from Anorexia. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9928830/
I don’t know what kind of eating disorder you have but some people that have anorexia and other eating disorders have had great recovery with keto since it is so healing to their bodies from taking sugar out of their diet.
I love how Teddy said “thank you” when you opened his snack!❤️ Thank you for including your beautiful children. It’s very encouraging and heartwarming. Watching your journey very closely! Thanks so much for being willing to bring us along!
I'm happy that this seems to be giving you a more stable, manageable life, it's encouraging! Everyone is different but it's nice to see real success. ❤
I'm so happy to see the progress, the building of confidence, and the overall healthy look you have from being on the keto diet. I love it! I had an experience where I was accidentally kicked off my meds because of monetary reasons. I started keto shortly after, and I ended up never needing medications again. I still take one or two of my old meds once every two years, but overall I'm doing great after the keto diet.
It's criminal that the first thing docs usuallt try are powerful drugs with potentially life-threatening adverse effects that the person will likely be stuck/dependent on for the rest of their lives.
@@aaymathebest4705 I remember before I started the keto diet that I was putting tape on small holes in the sheet rock in my apartment because I thought the neighbors were putting cameras in through the walls to spy on me. I don't have those kinds of delusions anymore, but I have a bit of mania when I'm extremely stressed like losing a job, getting a new job, nearly missing rent payments, eating nearly nothing for a month, etc.
You guys are so talented at putting these together creatively with all the music and slow-mo etc. I've also got schizoaffective. Keen to see how you go with keto. Good luck!
Hi Lauren. I'm glad things are going so well so far. I have a tip for you. If you poke the side of your fingertip instead of the center it won't hurt as much. : )
Been following you for a while and I'm so happy to hear you found ways to improve your mental health. I've had clinical depression for past three years, until I found out september '23 I'm severely deficient in iron, and since raising it, I started having side effects, and now lowering the dose as well. Now reaserching and reading into the works of scientists and doctors who associate mental disorders with inflammation, parasites infections and nutrient deficiencies.
Be sure to reduce meds very slowly. Ten percent of your dose and stay there 4-6 weeks. Then continue reducing 10 percent. When you are half way, pause 4-6 months. I just learnt this at a seminar.
Lauren and Rob, love your videos that are educational. And, it's good to see you guys doing well. The only thing I would maybe think about is maybe not including your kids on video. I have seen many cases of smiling for the camera becoming toxic because you are "performing." That can have unforeseen repression of emotions that are not so positive. I don't mean to be a Debbie downer though. You guys, I wish nothing better as long as you're keeping thins real! ❤
Lauren, you r hilarious, the smooth move part had me laughing so much. You are the cutest couple ever. Seeing u actively work out gives me hope I can get over my fears and issues too
just wanted to say I don't have schizophrenia, but I do have a psychotic Illness and I love that you are making our struggles public and destigmatizing some of the census people have about anyone suffering with a psychotic illness. I think that naturally we have it harder because of that added fear that people will judge us harshly and often do. I try to tell the few I do tell it's one thing to want to harm or having ideations but for voices to tell you this makes it that much harder. I'm fighting tooth and nail at my job to get proper accommodations but it's very difficult and this the most severe my illness has been. I'm hearing a lot about ECT and IOP from my provider and the words treatment resistant so I'm very scared.
This is really interesting!! Thank you for taking us with us on this journey. Is there a possibility that placebo effect can happen? I hope not, just curious.
No it is not a placebo effect. The keto diet has been around for many years it was first used to treat epileptic seizures. It is now emerging as a new treatment for mental illness. You should watch the videos that Lauren did with Dr. Palmer this will address many of the questions you may have about why the ketogenic diet works with people who are struggling with mental illness.
@JadaRose880 it isn't possible for you to decide whether someone else is having a placebo affect. And that Dr. Palmer guy is one man. One person. He does not have long-term studies on whether the keto diet can successfully treat any mental illness. Seizures are not a mental illness.
While the placebo effect can influence just about anything to some degree, it can't be so drastic as to reduce symptoms of mental illness like that. She also has a partner, therapist, doctor, nutritionist, and psychiatrist observing her from the outside, so it would be clear pretty quickly if the placebo effect was occurring. She also displays a large degree of skepticism and has made it clear by her words and actions that she is aware of the importance of not being too optimistic (lacking skepticism, and being too optimistic, increases the likelihood of someone experiencing the placebo effect. I hope this answers your question well! Thank you for being someone that respectfully asks questions (as opposed to those who would just make assumptions and judgments) !
Thank you, Lauren and Rob for sharing. It is interesting that you are already reducing meds, I think what I did wrong was to not consult my psychiatrist weekly to follow up How I was going, that's why I had a bad experience reducing meds on diet. Lesson learned.
Great vlog as usual! I love how so far reducing meds is going well and nothing negative to report! And it's interesting about too much protein and the bloodwork! Keep up the great work!
There's no way I would ever do any keto diet or mess with what my doctors think I should dose on their meds. The stuff has quit working on me several times and they have had to change my meds. I'm doing good on Olanzapine now, it really opens up your emotions though, which I like.
❤❤❤❤❤🤣😅😘 hugs to you guys, you're so sweet and funny, you're great together, and your kids are doing great too. All my support, encouragement and hugs accompany you through this courageous and pioneering endeavour. Lauren you *will* prevail!
Good to see you doing well. I got a diagnosis of Schizoaffective and a new med but I am hopeful because my psychiatrist says it's easier to treat than treating bipolar 1 and Schizophrenia separately. I love my psychiatrist. I am experiencing a bit more sedation right now.
Hahaha! I was born 1983. I feel your pain, Rob! Phat also means pretty hot and tasty. I suffer from mental/medical illnesses. Also attempted murder on me by others every day all throughout the day for years. And if this is too much information, I do apologize. But, I also have schizoaffective. I am so overwhelmed, and I'm lucky if I even change my clothes. You are so smart. From my C-PTSD, I have brain damage and had many concussions. Although, I AM interested in keto! You are so amazing, you've also got yourself together! I haven't seen my son in 5 years. And I haven't seen my husband in almost 5 years too. He got sober 4 years ago. I have been an addict for 36 years. And I have 28 days and 4 days ago I quit the nicotine vape. I'm so ready! I have God. I have people who love me. I really don't know what I'm doing telling you about my life like this. But, I feel like you understand. Thank you for listening. Good luck with your medication! Good luck with keto, you and your husband. You two have a lovely life. Thanks again. -Becky
I would love to come off my meds. I can’t. I know I can’t. I have tried too many times before. The 6 weeks to max my meds back out seemed it took forever. Good luck on your journey.
For any who are fat from meds and cannot lose weight or drop doses feel my hugs. This show is great but if I have any disappointment it is the focus on the body beautiful. We are more than our looks.
Hi Lauren and Rob, First thank you for all the extra videos!! Lauren, I am cheerleading you on in a HUGE WAY. By the way your spirit and presence is more alive and vital. You look more happy. I love how going down on your meds is going. Finally, I Love you and Rob interacting on these videos. That is a so cool. Please keep your Relationship on your videos. Stay well. If you can have flaxseeds and chia, you can poop Rob. 😮
Thank you for taking us with you on the first leg of your journey with medical keto. You and Rob are so cute together :). I also liked watching the interaction between you and your children. I’m just wondering what the difference between medical keto and regular keto is. Keep your great video blogs coming ❤
Thank you so much for sharing this journey with us! I love the vlog style videos. Your family is so sweet. Seeing you thrive really inspires me to do better ❤
I am glad that your family Doctor did the requisitions for blood work. When I needed because I was fallowing with a doctor from US the doctor refused to help - I just needed an endocrinologist and do the free t3 and 4… well I changed family doctor…
I'm glad it's going well! I would very much like to know what was tested in the bloodwork. I appreciate the clear information on the importance of working with your healthcare professionals!
so happy you are getting better and better Lauren! ❤I don’t remember if you shared the macros you are working with? 20g of carbs (I am doing total carbs but it’s still not really kicking in) what % of fat versus protein? Rob you should start taking MCToil C8-C10 which helps with bowel movements and with ketone production, but you need to start really slowly…I am still hanging on there and finding it so hard without any progress yet…but I am still trying
I believe she's doing 20 grams of total carbs. If you are not overweight you really have to up your fat. Try to get every meal at a 2:1 ratio of fat to protein/carbs. And finally there are some medications that may be interfering. If you are improving, like Lauren you could start to wean down
@@CashMoneyMoore thanks, you are always so kind to answer. I do not take any meds, I have totally different issues from Lauren. I do have some weight to loose, but I was told that until I am fat adapted I should only watch the carbs. As I said I am doing total carbs, not net carbs like Lauren. She is not doing total carbs, she eats a lot of things that I cannot eat :-) net carbs is A LOT less. still I am probably eating too much protein, and I need to start figuring that out, because I am still kind of having a hard time figuring out what to eat and not be hungry/ grossed out with all this dense food of protein and fat (I really miss the veggies, which I can eat only a little of) thanks for chiming in.
@@Catlily5 Oh wow that's not good. I'll have to look into it. :( I'm worried that Lauren may be hindering her chance of success. Because I think if she's successful it could be groundbreaking for many people.
I admire you. You seem to function really well. I don't have schizophrenia, but I do suffer from severe depression and anxiety. I was misdiagnosed for years and very overmedicated. I've been weaning off several psych meds over the past year and it's been brutal. I'm on only 25 mg of Seroquel for sleep, but it's so sedating. I'm exhausted during the day. I'm on Vyvanse to counteract the sedation from my psych meds. My body reacts differently to meds that I'm on since tapering off so many. I haven't gone to the gym in over 2 years. I've gained weight. Psych meds tend to do that to you. Sucks! I need to eat better and go to the gym. I know it will make me feel better. I tend to isolate with my depression and that makes things worse. Med changes are hard. Do you not get any withdrawal side effects? I get horrible nausea, dizziness, headaches, etc. Very hard to function. I had no clue that KETO diet could affect your mental health. Interesting.
I was reading about making my own electrolyte drinks and it described how to make them for the Keto diet. It talked about how the body processes them a bit differently and everything.
The fact you can talk while running is amazing to me. 😂 Even when I ran regularly when I was in middle and high school, I still was breathing too hard while I was running.
May the Lord be with you and your Family. I was wondering if you kept a journal of the times you took your medication, and how you feel afterward on a scale of 1 to 10.
@@mygirldarby I live in Manitoba so I understand the cold. 🤷🏼♀️ I don’t have children, but Lauren has spoken on her channel about having co-parents, so I reasonably assume that’s where they are when they run together?
20mg is a large drop. Hopefully your doctor doesn’t set you up for withdrawal syndrome. I’d follow the taper protocol from Heather Ashton for benzodiazepines much safer without potentially running into psychotic episodes due to withdrawal. Robert Whitaker has some really great lectures on coming off of antipsychotics in the healing process.
She is playing her doctor. It's easy to do. Trust me, she is. She was hospitalized for psychosis thinking her stepchildren were poisoning her food less than a year ago. She's driving this bus. Not the doctor.
@@gecooooo I could be wrong but I'm looking at this from two perspectives - as a content manager and a viewer who doesn't have a severe mental illness. As a content manager, this series has to have been planned to some extent. It makes no sense that she would create food and ketone measurement videos for five or six months before reducing meds. They need a story to tell and that story needs progression or views will drop. So, I believe she planned to reduce meds all along as part of the story. From the perspective of someone without a mental illness, I have watched this channel long enough to know that she has delusions about taking medication and has often expressed her desire not to take it (I don't blame her; it has side effects.). I also think she is a little manic and overly optimistic about being cured through diet. For these reasons, I think she told her doctor exactly what she felt he needed to hear to get him to agree to reduce her meds. I don't know if she is self-aware enough to recognize this, but let's be frank. She found a doctor to significantly change her medication over the phone without looking at her in person and evaluating her. I say she's driving this because I think she has a clear goal with this experiment and will say and do what she needs to in order to reach said goal. I am a little cynical and pessimistic about this, admittedly. I truly hope it works for her. That said, I think she displays manipulative and narcissistic behaviors that could be to her detriment. I also think monetizing this colors the outcome.
Just me no one else. I prefer my low expectations to be wonderfully proven wrong rather than high to devastate me. I always weigh likelihood of cost vs. benefit.
If you're having issues with cheese have or can you add more fiber into your diet for Rob. I am diabetic and fiber comes in many forms. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
I am not a bit surprised that they've reduced your medication and I even pointed out on your sedation video that your meds might now be a bit too strong because you've been doing Keto. That's _exactly_ what I thought too.
Taking in too much protein triggers a digestive response where the body breaks proteins down to sugars. Just a little explanation for the low keto values, but don't sweat it! The important thing is to continue having fun with the diet and forging a new standard in lifestyle living. For Rob, I'd recommend eating an extra bowlful of steamed broccoli. The fiber drop-off from cutting out carbs is heinous, and can lead to some painful movements. Other people have recommended solutions, so I'm sure you've got this all taken care of. But you better believe I'm waiting for an update! Regarding balancing the macros, I recommend focusing on increasing the almond intake. In addition to them being high fat and low carb, they're also really good for absorbing the increased LDL-cholesterol that your diets are likely to include.
I was on different variety of Antipsychotics over the course of 5 years and I quit and only take any when I have rebound or it’s just too much. It’s better without that every day.
There are no proteins in the meat nor amino acids after heat treatment above 50 degrees Celsius for more than 5 minutes when their denaturation occurs.
I am only on antidepressants but they had a sedating effect at the beginning as well - I'm kind of wondering why you are just thinking about your anti-psychotics. . .
There's a lot of crap in those packaged bars, including the first ingredient which has seed oils. I'd be cautious on them, though they might fall within your keto macros they are in no way anything other than a kind of junk food.
Rob, increase your fiber for better digestion!! Dark green veggies, cabbage and a probiotic. Fermented foods, too! Whole grains help me. Keto ain't for everyone.
Is it just me or you got in a lot better shape than before keto? :D You both look amazing now, which is absolutely fantastic to see, both in what concerns physical and mental health. So done like you did it, looks like it has a tremendous positive impact.
Ive dealt with schizophrenia really bad since i was early 20s, but had it all my life. I self medicated with cocaine and booze, like alot of us do. 3 years ago i went carnivore and i havent picked up a drug since. Im able to handle my extreme paranoia better now, and stop it. I like watching youre channel. ALOT of us, especially the older ones like myslef didnt have anywhere to turn or anyone to talk to, so naturally we turned to drugs and booze. If more people knew that ketosis can save you, i feel like everything would change. Idk
Natural flavour: they can use Msg, corn and soya: Ogm, and then too many gums. Is that certified gluten free? Do you have any intollerance to lactose or casein ?
Cheese is really hard for me to digest too. I tried some this morning, and the farts are already coming . . .So, like, what I did was start eating organ meats to get affordable protein (since I can't digest beans). Tongue, heart, liver. Luckily I live with a Filipina from a remote farm where they have always eaten these foods. And I live a few blocks from a Chinese store that sells them. But it's been an adjustment . . . I am a little worried about cholesterol. But I have never had high cholesterol. Anyway I will check in a few months.
I eat mostly all at once but drinking like 32 Oz of water before helps me eat slower and feel fuller also heating my food super hot in a microwave. Idk if u tried these
@@themrdeadlift I found that eating protein helps with cravings a lot. Do you find that there's an anxiety that goes along with food? I get very anxious to eat and somewhat impatient also. I'm on Invega, 100mg every four weeks
I really hope this works for her but I worry we're watching a train wreck happening in real time. And the shift to vlog and family channel is disconcerting. Maybe be more careful and post videos once you know this really works? I really hope you get a lasting good result.
@Catlily5 You were very fortunate. My doctor took me off my antipressent too quickly. The withdrawals were so severe I was admitted to the mental hospital.
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This is all fantastic to see. Just a word of caution from someone who has been there - if you keep going down on your meds and you still feel great, you might reach a point where you go - hey i'm feeling great! I'm cured! I can have a few more carbs, everybody else can have them, I'm sure it's fine - and you can very quickly find yourself not eating as much fat as you need and keeping carbs as low as you need. It is the equivalent of not taking your medications! It seems everyone has this experience when the diet is working because we like to think we are smarter than we really are. So just keep vigilant and maybe ask those around you to keep you accountable when that day comes. Because I think it is coming sooner rather than later! A good problem to have. Cheers!
Also, for Rob - if you really need a laxative, up the MCT oil! Promise you it will do the trick - will help with ketones too
Cash what MCT oil do you recommend. Thank you in advance Jada
So far, this is not "curable".
If food was the ultimate answer, nobody would be schizophrenic.
This lovely lady has a positive episode now.
@@lotuspocus76312, we have many diseases related to food, that are still going on, even if food is the answer. And there is a lot of reaserch coming out in the past years that is connecting many mental disorders with inflammation, parasites, untreated infections and mineral deficiencies. Starting with Professor Cyndi Shannon Weickert on schizophrenia.
@@lotuspocus76312Lifestyle/diet changes are the answer to many disorders but people need to have the strength and motivation to make those changes. That's one reason why it definitely can't work for everyone.
Food/nutrition is the ultimate answer.
I was very skeptical about the keto diet for mental health (without knowing anything about it admittedly) and I'm finding it very interesting. I'm a clinical psychologist so I'm following along to see how it works. I wish you continued success.
You might have to get used to it because it is the answer. It is also the answer to many other ailments, such as diabetes, potential cancers, dementia, and a whole host of other serious illnesses not just schizophrenia. I am sorry that the medical profession is so woefully inadequate to not know these things. I have been dealing with my sister’s illness and caring for her for 35 years.
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Nutrition is something drs really don’t spend much time studying in med school. We didn’t learn anything about it at all for my BA in psychology. I was going to go the med school route for psychiatry. But am doing PMHNP instead. 95% of serotonin is produced in the brain. We really are what we eat… and chronic inflammation is often a large reason why people experience mental illness overall. we need to take it more seriously and use meds as a third line approach… they’re too often thrown out as a first line and it’s inappropriate for most humans.
It's amazing how much you manage to get done and how you take care of yourself and try new things to do so, even though you're feeling so sedated and obviously experience the symptoms of schizoaffective disorder. I also have schizoaffective disorder but I can't bring myself to go to the gym lol instead I stay in bed, so great job on your journey, I mean it. Some days are hard and antipsychotics are really sedating so I'm happy to see you happy with your family, btw those keto bars look tasty xd
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I'm noticing that you have a lot more facial expressions and you smile and joke more. You also seem very calm.
Be careful of some of those Keto food snacks. Every Keto snacks that I've seen on shelves, most of the time, have unhealthy ingredients like corn syrup. Keto falls in the line with Paleo and supposed to have natural ingredients. Corrupted food companies always find loop holes in laws to lie about what is in your food. For example, I just found out that "Corn Syrup", which I always say is very bad to consume, has more carbohydrates than wheat and table sugar and companies found a loop hole to not display the correct amount of "Carbs" that is in the food. Also, "Corn Syrup" is not actually categorized as a food since it is one of the most processed ingredients.
Soooo glad this person explains that “just b/c “ the company can legally claim that the product is Keto … does not mean it is safe . Sugar for example has 20 different names and wh😊en listed in the ingredients of the product container, customers won’t notice it and FDA continues with its flag “customer be aware”
And pesticides that tax the body and corrode gut health also - which is part of what doing keto is supposed to help reverse.. gut damage / inflammation etc.
also the consumption of chocolate where there tends to be astronomical levels of Lead and Cadmium.. they accumulate in the body/brain and can contribute to an exacerbation of symptoms. just mentioning these things so ppl don’t hinder their own progress unknowingly, since the goal is to be FREE!!!!
It still has to be listed.
You look like you're doing so well. I hope it keeps up
Glad to see you guys! Thanks for taking us along. ❤
I’m so glad you discovered keto. The benefits of keto has been know for decades and yet has been rejected and suppressed by establishment medicine who knows the least about any new evidence.
I appreciate that you are distinguishing between medical keto and regular keto. So many people do keto for weight loss and I can't imagine they would get the same results on the diet you are eating. But I don't really know for sure.
This is all really exciting, I'm so happy you're seeing great progress! I do feel kind of bad for Rob because I don't think the keto diet is the best for him LOL, mainly because he's grumpy, tired, sick from too much cheese, and losing weight when he doesn't want to. I feel like eventually, he could benefit from something like a paleo diet. But of course, I am an internet rando and I don't know everything about food or Rob. Hope he finds that balance!!
This is so great to watch you on this journey and see how it goes along with you! Thank you so much for doing this Lauren. A lot of the keto docs say just be careful of the “net carb” processed foods bc they can actually raise your blood sugar quite a bit depending on what they are saying is “insoluble” fiber etc. They say it’s best to check you blood sugar before and a certain amount of time after a low carb treat to make sure it’s not spiking your blood sugar.
I am happy that you are finding something to help you deal with your symptoms. I have had schizophrenia for over 25 years now I have been pretty fortunate with my meds situation. I have had to adjust them only a couple of times. My symptoms flare up around crowds and stress so as you know it can really be overwhelming. So I am happy you found keto. Best of Luck
Keto seems like it’s helping you a lot. I wish i could do it for my schizophrenia but i also have an eating disorder so more restrictions aren’t going to be healthy for me.
I'm sorry to hear that, that sounds really tough to handle. I hope something helps and maybe some day keto can be a possibility for you! I have schizoaffective disorder and a problem with binge eating so it's hard to try and start keto, so it kind of seems like the opposite problem to yours xd but maybe I'll try. Anyway good luck and I wish you good health.
I just read a paper on a new anorexia therapy using ketogenic therapy and when the body is in ketosis they added ketamine therapy. The combination seems to synergize remission from Anorexia.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9928830/
I don’t know what kind of eating disorder you have but some people that have anorexia and other eating disorders have had great recovery with keto since it is so healing to their bodies from taking sugar out of their diet.
Keto can actually help people with eating disorders.. I highly recommend carnivore too.
I love how Teddy said “thank you” when you opened his snack!❤️ Thank you for including your beautiful children. It’s very encouraging and heartwarming. Watching your journey very closely! Thanks so much for being willing to bring us along!
I'm happy that this seems to be giving you a more stable, manageable life, it's encouraging! Everyone is different but it's nice to see real success. ❤
I'm so happy to see the progress, the building of confidence, and the overall healthy look you have from being on the keto diet. I love it! I had an experience where I was accidentally kicked off my meds because of monetary reasons. I started keto shortly after, and I ended up never needing medications again. I still take one or two of my old meds once every two years, but overall I'm doing great after the keto diet.
It's criminal that the first thing docs usuallt try are powerful drugs with potentially life-threatening adverse effects that the person will likely be stuck/dependent on for the rest of their lives.
❤ wow this is MASSIVELY inspiring, thank you.
DO YOU HAVE SEVERE SCZOPHERNIA OR MILD MANIA?
@@aaymathebest4705 I remember before I started the keto diet that I was putting tape on small holes in the sheet rock in my apartment because I thought the neighbors were putting cameras in through the walls to spy on me. I don't have those kinds of delusions anymore, but I have a bit of mania when I'm extremely stressed like losing a job, getting a new job, nearly missing rent payments, eating nearly nothing for a month, etc.
Thanks!
Wow! I hope it is okay to say this: your progress and change has been life changing and inspiring for me. Keep it up and so proud to follow.
You guys are so talented at putting these together creatively with all the music and slow-mo etc. I've also got schizoaffective. Keen to see how you go with keto. Good luck!
This is a fantastic series. Thanks so much for documenting this.
Hi Lauren. I'm glad things are going so well so far. I have a tip for you. If you poke the side of your fingertip instead of the center it won't hurt as much. : )
Careful with rotisserie chickens. They marinade them and the marinade contains sugar
Been following you for a while and I'm so happy to hear you found ways to improve your mental health. I've had clinical depression for past three years, until I found out september '23 I'm severely deficient in iron, and since raising it, I started having side effects, and now lowering the dose as well. Now reaserching and reading into the works of scientists and doctors who associate mental disorders with inflammation, parasites infections and nutrient deficiencies.
I am so, so happy for you, Lauren. ❤
Be sure to reduce meds very slowly. Ten percent of your dose and stay there 4-6 weeks. Then continue reducing 10 percent. When you are half way, pause 4-6 months. I just learnt this at a seminar.
Are u in the US? Do you have a psychiatrist that is willing to help with this process?
So happy for your progress!
Why do I feel so proud? You go!!
Lauren and Rob, love your videos that are educational. And, it's good to see you guys doing well. The only thing I would maybe think about is maybe not including your kids on video. I have seen many cases of smiling for the camera becoming toxic because you are "performing." That can have unforeseen repression of emotions that are not so positive. I don't mean to be a Debbie downer though. You guys, I wish nothing better as long as you're keeping thins real! ❤
Proud of you. Very interested in learning more about the lab work thats helpful for this condition. Thank you! Inspiring!
Lauren, you r hilarious, the smooth move part had me laughing so much. You are the cutest couple ever. Seeing u actively work out gives me hope I can get over my fears and issues too
just wanted to say I don't have schizophrenia, but I do have a psychotic Illness and I love that you are making our struggles public and destigmatizing some of the census people have about anyone suffering with a psychotic illness. I think that naturally we have it harder because of that added fear that people will judge us harshly and often do. I try to tell the few I do tell it's one thing to want to harm or having ideations but for voices to tell you this makes it that much harder. I'm fighting tooth and nail at my job to get proper accommodations but it's very difficult and this the most severe my illness has been. I'm hearing a lot about ECT and IOP from my provider and the words treatment resistant so I'm very scared.
Try as many options as possible before ECT.
What a fun video!! Happy to see you happy
This is really interesting!! Thank you for taking us with us on this journey. Is there a possibility that placebo effect can happen? I hope not, just curious.
No it is not a placebo effect. The keto diet has been around for many years it was first used to treat epileptic seizures. It is now emerging as a new treatment for mental illness.
You should watch the videos that Lauren did with Dr. Palmer this will address many of the questions you may have about why the ketogenic diet works with people who
are struggling with mental illness.
@JadaRose880 it isn't possible for you to decide whether someone else is having a placebo affect. And that Dr. Palmer guy is one man. One person. He does not have long-term studies on whether the keto diet can successfully treat any mental illness. Seizures are not a mental illness.
While the placebo effect can influence just about anything to some degree, it can't be so drastic as to reduce symptoms of mental illness like that. She also has a partner, therapist, doctor, nutritionist, and psychiatrist observing her from the outside, so it would be clear pretty quickly if the placebo effect was occurring. She also displays a large degree of skepticism and has made it clear by her words and actions that she is aware of the importance of not being too optimistic (lacking skepticism, and being too optimistic, increases the likelihood of someone experiencing the placebo effect.
I hope this answers your question well! Thank you for being someone that respectfully asks questions (as opposed to those who would just make assumptions and judgments) !
wonderful update and progress!! congratulations on the med reduction ;-)
Thank you, Lauren and Rob for sharing. It is interesting that you are already reducing meds, I think what I did wrong was to not consult my psychiatrist weekly to follow up How I was going, that's why I had a bad experience reducing meds on diet. Lesson learned.
Great vlog as usual! I love how so far reducing meds is going well and nothing negative to report! And it's interesting about too much protein and the bloodwork! Keep up the great work!
Ha I g number one support system is mandatory
We love ❤️ her so much & her family best husband !!❤🙏🏻
There's no way I would ever do any keto diet or mess with what my doctors think I should dose on their meds. The stuff has quit working on me several times and they have had to change my meds. I'm doing good on Olanzapine now, it really opens up your emotions though, which I like.
What?open your emotions?really ?
@@dagrun3821allow them to experience the emotions? Someone’s mental illness really can alter ability to do so.
@@dagrun3821 Olanzapine didn't do that for me but meds can cause different things for different people.
❤❤❤❤❤🤣😅😘 hugs to you guys, you're so sweet and funny, you're great together, and your kids are doing great too. All my support, encouragement and hugs accompany you through this courageous and pioneering endeavour. Lauren you *will* prevail!
You guys had me laughing from the very beginning. 😂 Such a fun and happy video that you share. Best wishes on your medication titration.
Good to see you doing well. I got a diagnosis of Schizoaffective and a new med but I am hopeful because my psychiatrist says it's easier to treat than treating bipolar 1 and Schizophrenia separately. I love my psychiatrist. I am experiencing a bit more sedation right now.
Hahaha! I was born 1983. I feel your pain, Rob! Phat also means pretty hot and tasty.
I suffer from mental/medical illnesses. Also attempted murder on me by others every day all throughout the day for years. And if this is too much information, I do apologize. But, I also have schizoaffective. I am so overwhelmed, and I'm lucky if I even change my clothes. You are so smart. From my C-PTSD, I have brain damage and had many concussions. Although, I AM interested in keto! You are so amazing, you've also got yourself together! I haven't seen my son in 5 years. And I haven't seen my husband in almost 5 years too. He got sober 4 years ago. I have been an addict for 36 years. And I have 28 days and 4 days ago I quit the nicotine vape. I'm so ready! I have God. I have people who love me. I really don't know what I'm doing telling you about my life like this. But, I feel like you understand. Thank you for listening. Good luck with your medication! Good luck with keto, you and your husband. You two have a lovely life. Thanks again.
-Becky
I would love to come off my meds. I can’t. I know I can’t. I have tried too many times before. The 6 weeks to max my meds back out seemed it took forever. Good luck on your journey.
Keep a hold of that thought! Please don’t let someone’s unusual approach tempt you into stopping your medication.
For any who are fat from meds and cannot lose weight or drop doses feel my hugs. This show is great but if I have any disappointment it is the focus on the body beautiful. We are more than our looks.
She was already thin. She is trying this diet for mental health reasons.
I don't see any focus or really any mention of appearance other than beyond factual comment.
No joke I thought that lemon bar was a stick of butter for a second 😂
I hope all is well with you and your family❤️
And btw I love these vlogs you are doing keep it up💪
Hi Lauren and Rob, First thank you for all the extra videos!! Lauren, I am cheerleading you on in a HUGE WAY. By the way your spirit and presence is more alive and vital. You look more happy. I love how going down on your meds is going.
Finally, I Love you and Rob interacting on these videos. That is a so cool. Please keep your Relationship on your videos. Stay well. If you can have flaxseeds and chia, you can poop Rob. 😮
Thank you for taking us with you on the first leg of your journey with medical keto. You and Rob are so
cute together :). I also liked watching the interaction between you and your children. I’m just wondering what the difference between medical keto and regular keto is. Keep your great video blogs coming ❤
Glad to hear about your present progress.
You should be proud of the progress you're making!
I’m so GLAD for YOU ❤❤❤😊praise GOD 🙌🙌🙌
How wonderful is this! 🤞❤️
Wishing you all the best!
Thank you so much for sharing this journey with us! I love the vlog style videos. Your family is so sweet. Seeing you thrive really inspires me to do better ❤
I am glad that your family Doctor did the requisitions for blood work. When I needed because I was fallowing with a doctor from US the doctor refused to help - I just needed an endocrinologist and do the free t3 and 4… well I changed family doctor…
I'm loving your progress! It's inspiring.
I'm glad it's going well! I would very much like to know what was tested in the bloodwork. I appreciate the clear information on the importance of working with your healthcare professionals!
so happy you are getting better and better Lauren! ❤I don’t remember if you shared the macros you are working with? 20g of carbs (I am doing total carbs but it’s still not really kicking in) what % of fat versus protein? Rob you should start taking MCToil C8-C10 which helps with bowel movements and with ketone production, but you need to start really slowly…I am still hanging on there and finding it so hard without any progress yet…but I am still trying
good luck to you bluejay!
I believe she's doing 20 grams of total carbs. If you are not overweight you really have to up your fat. Try to get every meal at a 2:1 ratio of fat to protein/carbs. And finally there are some medications that may be interfering. If you are improving, like Lauren you could start to wean down
@@CashMoneyMoore thanks, you are always so kind to answer. I do not take any meds, I have totally different issues from Lauren. I do have some weight to loose, but I was told that until I am fat adapted I should only watch the carbs. As I said I am doing total carbs, not net carbs like Lauren. She is not doing total carbs, she eats a lot of things that I cannot eat :-) net carbs is A LOT less. still I am probably eating too much protein, and I need to start figuring that out, because I am still kind of having a hard time figuring out what to eat and not be hungry/ grossed out with all this dense food of protein and fat (I really miss the veggies, which I can eat only a little of) thanks for chiming in.
Watch out for the sugar alcohols. They may be fine for you but I get really bad bloating and migraines. So very inflammatory. 🔥
Some of them can cause heart problems as well.
@@Catlily5 Oh wow that's not good. I'll have to look into it. :( I'm worried that Lauren may be hindering her chance of success. Because I think if she's successful it could be groundbreaking for many people.
Right on! You're going to experience a miracle for sure.😃🥰
I admire you. You seem to function really well. I don't have schizophrenia, but I do suffer from severe depression and anxiety. I was misdiagnosed for years and very overmedicated. I've been weaning off several psych meds over the past year and it's been brutal. I'm on only 25 mg of Seroquel for sleep, but it's so sedating. I'm exhausted during the day. I'm on Vyvanse to counteract the sedation from my psych meds. My body reacts differently to meds that I'm on since tapering off so many. I haven't gone to the gym in over 2 years. I've gained weight. Psych meds tend to do that to you. Sucks! I need to eat better and go to the gym. I know it will make me feel better. I tend to isolate with my depression and that makes things worse. Med changes are hard. Do you not get any withdrawal side effects? I get horrible nausea, dizziness, headaches, etc. Very hard to function. I had no clue that KETO diet could affect your mental health. Interesting.
Wow your mom looks so young. I thought she was your friend because she looks so young. And your little one is adorable.
I was reading about making my own electrolyte drinks and it described how to make them for the Keto diet. It talked about how the body processes them a bit differently and everything.
Wow the ninja gym part is amazing I’m impressed I could never ever do that
The fact you can talk while running is amazing to me. 😂 Even when I ran regularly when I was in middle and high school, I still was breathing too hard while I was running.
May the Lord be with you and your Family. I was wondering if you kept a journal of the times you took your medication, and how you feel afterward on a scale of 1 to 10.
Super wonderful video thank you. ✨🤩☺️
Amen, running is fun and the outdoors is good 🙏🏻 Gyms are stinky, surrounded by other random ppl, and expensive! Let thy outdoors be one's gym. :)
It's extremely cold where they live. Kids can't be running around in negative 0-degree temps.
@@mygirldarby I live in Manitoba so I understand the cold. 🤷🏼♀️ I don’t have children, but Lauren has spoken on her channel about having co-parents, so I reasonably assume that’s where they are when they run together?
20mg is a large drop. Hopefully your doctor doesn’t set you up for withdrawal syndrome. I’d follow the taper protocol from Heather Ashton for benzodiazepines much safer without potentially running into psychotic episodes due to withdrawal. Robert Whitaker has some really great lectures on coming off of antipsychotics in the healing process.
She is playing her doctor. It's easy to do. Trust me, she is. She was hospitalized for psychosis thinking her stepchildren were poisoning her food less than a year ago. She's driving this bus. Not the doctor.
@@gecooooo I could be wrong but I'm looking at this from two perspectives - as a content manager and a viewer who doesn't have a severe mental illness. As a content manager, this series has to have been planned to some extent. It makes no sense that she would create food and ketone measurement videos for five or six months before reducing meds. They need a story to tell and that story needs progression or views will drop. So, I believe she planned to reduce meds all along as part of the story. From the perspective of someone without a mental illness, I have watched this channel long enough to know that she has delusions about taking medication and has often expressed her desire not to take it (I don't blame her; it has side effects.). I also think she is a little manic and overly optimistic about being cured through diet. For these reasons, I think she told her doctor exactly what she felt he needed to hear to get him to agree to reduce her meds. I don't know if she is self-aware enough to recognize this, but let's be frank. She found a doctor to significantly change her medication over the phone without looking at her in person and evaluating her. I say she's driving this because I think she has a clear goal with this experiment and will say and do what she needs to in order to reach said goal. I am a little cynical and pessimistic about this, admittedly. I truly hope it works for her. That said, I think she displays manipulative and narcissistic behaviors that could be to her detriment. I also think monetizing this colors the outcome.
@@ChaiChai1965 What video did she share that she thought her stepchildren were trying to poison her in?
@@Catlily5 After she had her last psychotic break and had to go to the hospital she said that was one of her delusions
@@ChaiChai1965 I don't remember that but it is possible that I missed it.
Just me no one else. I prefer my low expectations to be wonderfully proven wrong rather than high to devastate me. I always weigh likelihood of cost vs. benefit.
If you're having issues with cheese have or can you add more fiber into your diet for Rob. I am diabetic and fiber comes in many forms. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
I like your positivity!
I am not a bit surprised that they've reduced your medication and I even pointed out on your sedation video that your meds might now be a bit too strong because you've been doing Keto. That's _exactly_ what I thought too.
Taking in too much protein triggers a digestive response where the body breaks proteins down to sugars. Just a little explanation for the low keto values, but don't sweat it! The important thing is to continue having fun with the diet and forging a new standard in lifestyle living.
For Rob, I'd recommend eating an extra bowlful of steamed broccoli. The fiber drop-off from cutting out carbs is heinous, and can lead to some painful movements. Other people have recommended solutions, so I'm sure you've got this all taken care of. But you better believe I'm waiting for an update!
Regarding balancing the macros, I recommend focusing on increasing the almond intake. In addition to them being high fat and low carb, they're also really good for absorbing the increased LDL-cholesterol that your diets are likely to include.
Almond milk will help with constipation!
This was a dope episode! Idk if medical keto is for me, but it seems to hold weight as it works for you too. Niceee
Do you hear more or less voices when you on keto ?
It's quite a job what you're doing. My God! Keep going👍
Do your doctors have any concerns about any physical negative effects of ketosis, like kidney stones?
Hooray, success so far. Maybe Chris is right.
I was on different variety of Antipsychotics over the course of 5 years and I quit and only take any when I have rebound or it’s just too much. It’s better without that every day.
There are no proteins in the meat nor amino acids after heat treatment above 50 degrees Celsius for more than 5 minutes when their denaturation occurs.
The woods are dark and lovely, I've got promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep.
I am only on antidepressants but they had a sedating effect at the beginning as well - I'm kind of wondering why you are just thinking about your anti-psychotics. . .
I had no idea that phat was an acronym!
There's a lot of crap in those packaged bars, including the first ingredient which has seed oils. I'd be cautious on them, though they might fall within your keto macros they are in no way anything other than a kind of junk food.
Does Lauren look noticeably thinner? Rob, you can try taking psyllium husk caps. ❤
Rob, increase your fiber for better digestion!! Dark green veggies, cabbage and a probiotic. Fermented foods, too! Whole grains help me. Keto ain't for everyone.
Is it just me or you got in a lot better shape than before keto? :D You both look amazing now, which is absolutely fantastic to see, both in what concerns physical and mental health. So done like you did it, looks like it has a tremendous positive impact.
Ive dealt with schizophrenia really bad since i was early 20s, but had it all my life. I self medicated with cocaine and booze, like alot of us do. 3 years ago i went carnivore and i havent picked up a drug since. Im able to handle my extreme paranoia better now, and stop it. I like watching youre channel. ALOT of us, especially the older ones like myslef didnt have anywhere to turn or anyone to talk to, so naturally we turned to drugs and booze. If more people knew that ketosis can save you, i feel like everything would change. Idk
Hello does diet still help you
Protein can be a little more prone to gluconeogenesis. I'm starting to add berberine as it can lessen gluconeogenesis.
🎉 Amazing you are doing this! It's very interesting to see.
Natural flavour: they can use Msg, corn and soya: Ogm, and then too many gums.
Is that certified gluten free? Do you have any intollerance to lactose or casein ?
Cheese is really hard for me to digest too. I tried some this morning, and the farts are already coming . . .So, like, what I did was start eating organ meats to get affordable protein (since I can't digest beans). Tongue, heart, liver. Luckily I live with a Filipina from a remote farm where they have always eaten these foods. And I live a few blocks from a Chinese store that sells them. But it's been an adjustment . . .
I am a little worried about cholesterol. But I have never had high cholesterol. Anyway I will check in a few months.
Can I ask, how the heck do you not get the munchies from your meds? To me that's the worst side effect, I struggle so much.
I eat mostly all at once but drinking like 32 Oz of water before helps me eat slower and feel fuller also heating my food super hot in a microwave. Idk if u tried these
@@themrdeadlift I found that eating protein helps with cravings a lot. Do you find that there's an anxiety that goes along with food? I get very anxious to eat and somewhat impatient also. I'm on Invega, 100mg every four weeks
I really hope this works for her but I worry we're watching a train wreck happening in real time. And the shift to vlog and family channel is disconcerting. Maybe be more careful and post videos once you know this really works? I really hope you get a lasting good result.
I share the exact same worries
I stopped taking antidepressants cold turkey and felt no withdrawal symptoms.
Then you were very fortunate
The doctors have stopped me cold turkey as well. No problems. But some people have big problems.
@Catlily5 You were very fortunate. My doctor took me off my antipressent too quickly. The withdrawals were so severe I was admitted to the mental hospital.
I think you should ask the psychiatrist how he knows you are doing great as opposed to bad, when you take medication ?
The moment they go running in the cold... hahahahahah!!!! Me and my boyfriend!!! Her face, I cant 🤣🤣🤣
The cake bar looked like a stick of butter to me 😊 I love lemon and bet it was yummy