I just want to say what you and your family doing is really inspiring. I think in years to come you and others doing medical keto will be thought as pioneers in this type of intervention.It’s inspiring me as well. I have scizoaffective and I hope to do this one day too with help from my mental health team.
I'm on the same journey as we speak. I've seen many of your videos and came across this as I was searching keto diet vs schizophrenia. I'm on day 2 of carnivore diet.
Almost 2 years on carnivore for schizophrenia and i am off my meds but wow what a hell. This did work for me but going off the meds in the right order might be SUPER helpful. I did this on my own, with my doctor who is not an expert on this, and going off meds in the right order, in retrospect, might have been so much easier. My depression went away first, schizophrenia at about the 8 week mark. Avoid sugar. I carry haldol on me key chain still for accidental sugar intake at restaurants that can trigger my symptoms almost right away (psychosis usually). I am very ill and at one point, about a year in, mostly off my meds i just starting crying in happiness and that went on for a few months. I did not realize i was not having smell correctly and many other senses and realizing they are back was just too much emotions at once so i cried daily. Carnivore is sort of the simple version of this diet. I jumped from 6 years vegan to carnivore because the meds suck and don't work that well. I do miss vegetables some but oh well. You probably don't need to worry about cholesterol as long as other metabolic features are healthy. Not a doc - clearly - but have a few and are well monitored and tested. Blood pressure may flux wildly, don't pass out, come off blood pressure meds perhaps. If you can get a metabolic doctor do that. I have good insurance but could not and was not going to wait so I am my doctors second patient to do this full on because i want to actually recover. I am still on my mood stabilizer because why not. All your stims, anti-depressants and even anti-psychotics will eventually sort of interfere with the ketones like your taking too much meds. ADHD for me got better last. I have gone from there is no way i don't end up dead - probably accidentally - without meds to i just take them in miniscule doses because i have always taken them my entire life (20+ years). I went from maxed out doses, sometimes over the dosing range, to the smallest doses they make. I eliminated 4 our of the 8 meds i took including vyvance, a harsh med that i never could function without prior. Your gut biome will reset, i am sure you have noticed. We are all horribly addicted to sugar, i am sure you have noticed. It only lasts a few weeks. Best of luck!
You've helped me as a mother so much. My youngest son is schizoaffective (and high functioning autistic) I've struggled finding good information and understanding. Sharing your journey has given me hope & helped me help him in better ways. 💗 Thank you for the bottom of my heart. We're exploring options with his doctor 's about keto for him. The medication he was on caused weight gain increases in appetite... He was recently diagnosed as diabetic. So definitely doing under a doctor's care if it is an option for him. ❤
Just a suggestion but I think it would be more beneficial if you said your son is someone living with schizoaffective disorder. It acknowledges that he has the disorder, but he is more than his disorder 😊 I wish you both the best
Lauren, you and Rob AND the kids have really put in the work during this Keto adventure. As we all know, Life has a way of not letting us get too comfortable with all the rainbows and lollipops and gumdrops of a "new thing" by reminding us to side-step the "piles' that poop...er, I mean POP UP in front of us from time to time. What I have very much enjoyed is BOTH of you feeling more and more comfortable with your Fanbase in here and sharing things with us all that quite possibly a few months ago was a No Way situation. I've learned a ton about things that I never thought twice about before and your sharing is not lost on your Fans! Cheers and Blessings From COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO 👋👍
Ah, scones of any kind. I’m 72 and have lost 40 lb on keto. I would like to lose 20 more but I’m kinda stuck. The hair on your youngest, beautiful. Your kids are delightful. You all work so hard, just like an Olympian . Best of luck.
What helped for sleep the most for me was: - Going to bed precise on same time - Bedjet; being sure the body is quite cold ; there is also chilipad and other systems ; in summer thicker bamboosheet under body - not eating after dinner(I already stop at 15:00) Other things ive done: magnesieum 200-400mg not oxide form/calcium/zink in right dosage blackout foil or really good reviewed sleep mask (not by standard consumers) foam earbuds at least -30db , give it a try for a week at least , it takes a lot of time getting used too Wind down routine: Pulsetto sleep mode 10 mins brain/fm app music, wind down mode light morning 10mins + at night low light Testing with ring.
HI Lauren, I feel that you enjoy so much the control of your capacities you get from this experimentation with medical keto. I am so happy to feel you that way. You are a true fighter. You impress me. You are beautiful.
keto or low-glycemic eating really helps me with my binge eating and depression. but if i noticed if i eat a lot of protein, it can lead to paranoia and manic episodes (due to slow COMT), so it's definitely a balancing act. im happy to see that you're being supported by so many professionals, ensuring you're safe and healthy. also, taking magnesium before bed can help with sleep for many people. wishing you the best.
Glad to hear you're doing well with the new intervention, I pray it continues. Keto, or at least very low carb, is a precondition for my mental health, and I hope more people at least give it an honest try as you have.
Ou I'm also 32 with a schizoaffective diagnosis and just started keto two weeks ago to (currently of meds since November) I try to lift weight and walk on treadmill 2-3 times a week. Since starting I've lost 6lbs, my mind isn't racing as much my jaw isn't tense and genuinely feeling more positive. I also noticed I've started sleeping later then usual and you mentioning could be mania creeping in, I never thought of this! 🤔
Just wanted to mention to you that when I am on keto, my body just seems to naturally need less sleep. I have done keto off and on for years and when I am on it for longer periods, I do sleep less. So just sharing that in case it helps you.
Rob and I are relatable. I can't have a relationship. Finding love is difficult. Im very laid back and easy and clingy. Most changes in diet has helped a lot. No caffeine or process foods of any kind . Fruits and veggies are my favorites. I take 3 meds a day . 70% less than in the last 10 years. Serqual, minipress and klonopin. If I can help anyone please reach out. Thank you for posting this video and keeping mental health awareness alive ..
Great to see! Be careful with your sleep. Glad you are keeping an eye on that. I know Dr. Palmer has discussed sometimes using a medical sleep aid if the patient starts sleeping less than 6 hours and pushing towards mania at least for a few days and by then it usually passes. Also be careful with erythritol! I think allulose is a lot more benign but I'm not sure if it's available in Canada. Cheers Also very interesting to see two people eating the exact same things but one is have ketones 1.5 to 2x higher. I'm not sure if it can be explained entirely by the extra exercise Laruen does
So proud of you Lauren 🫶 Your eyes are soo beautiful! Zevia is SO good. It's the healthiest soda, solely stevia sweetened. :) Thankful to have it in Canada. 🇨🇦 Stevia tastes bitter to some people, not me though. :) It's the cilantro of sugar substitutes lol.
So happy your journey is going well Lauren, and Rob, and I am wishing you all the health and serenity 🙏🏻💚 it is also so interesting how our bodies react so differently…I am still hanging on there but my experience is still not good at all so far…and it’s been over a month of very strict carbs plus two months prior of transitioning + working on it imperfectly. The 23:30 depression has gotten even worse. I gained weight.and other negatives. I am in a free keto support group and they say to trust the process and give it time but it’s so hard…I just received dr. Ede’s book and I hope that may help maybe tweaking something…for example I am one of those who cannot handle the sweeteners, plus I hate the taste. I am not craving any carbs at all but I am really not liking this way of eating…I am so needing this to work for the depression 🙏🏻
You don’t seem to have a flat affect anymore, it’s definitely helping from the outsider looking in perspective. I’m going to look into it to see if it helps ADHD coz Ritalin induced psychosis was not fun!
I started a month ago doing keto for me/cfs and that has caused brain inflammation and neurological issues. So far no discernable help. It doesn't help that I'm activity intolerant. Was hoping to shift my broken krebs cycle from glycolysis to fat.
Your videos make me feel special, and also like having a mental disorder can be a fun and rewarding obstacle to navigate. I wish I had the same luck as you have with Dr's though. It's been a nightmare.
I understand and want to validate that dealing with psychiatrists and other mental health practitioners really can be a nightmare. We have a long way to go when it comes to developing models of care that treat people with dignity and respect.
When you are windeing down for the day make sure your electronics are set to filter out the blue light (night time mode) so that that doesnt interfere with your sleep.
Hi Lauren, just in case you see this comment - what is the cookbook you used (if it's keto specific)? Would love to know to get some recipe ideas that aren't just about bacon and deli meats :). Was just searching for alternative treatment methods and came across your channel again, perfect timing! Your channel really helped me a LOT about a year ago and I'm super grateful that you're doing this and sharing your knowledge on the topic, your research, etc. Wishing you and your family lots of love and health!
It is fascinating to me that your ketones are so high. That is really unusual, in my experience. I love hearing your experiences. Thanks so much for sharing.
So great. Keep on the good work. Your lifestyle changes are really inspiring!! But don't feel obliged to us to win the marathon!! We appreciate you and Rob anyway.
Lauren and Rob, i cant imagine me doing this for my schizoaffective disorder because taking antipsychotics since 2004 and then gaining 70 lbs in 2 months then turned into a dx of diabetes type 2 and i have the worst kind of brain fog (im also in my late 50s though) which keeps me from being able to function anywhere near how well you guys are functioning. Oh well, not your problem lol
I hear what you say about the weight gain. Whatever you wish to do please do not be influenced by this process. I hope you have a great psychiatric but be that as it may, please do not stop or reduce your medication without talking to your psychiatrist
I have to add this comment so you will see it and others. I live with with mental health disorders myself. I was once a person that was great in my career. I had to go to different courts on a daily basis and handle matters that were severe. I was bonded for about 10 Million Dollars. Then after years, my mental health just ate at me..... I had no control over it. I went from 10 years as a outstanding person in in the court system and business owner. Then, my mental health went down. Since then, I have had multiple stays at a "mental facility". I am so glad.
Hi Lauren and Rob! Could you please do a video where you break down your weekly budget in relation to the costs associated with doing keto? I also have Schizoaffective disorder and I’m interested in trying keto, but it seems very expensive and not doable on my student budget. Thanks!
I find it saves me money.....mince, tuna and eggs are all reasonably priced, and I find that it blunts your appetite so I don't have to eat all the time anymore.
Can’t thank you enough for sharing your life journey May god bless you in more ways than you can count. Your story and life is inspiring and spreads hope and joy. I pray you always be able to move forward and hopeful ❤❤❤
Hi Lauren, I can't express how exciting it is to even find any victories at this phase of the Keto journey for your mental health. I tried the keto diet maybe 7 years ago, and for me, it just did not work. what happened was I never ate ice cream and once I went on the keto diet I'm not kidding you, every night I was eating a pint of ice cream I couldn't stop it. I didn't know what was happening and I still lost weight which is why I went on it. now I want to talk about why it's so important that you are counting macros, that you have any assistance to be very strict. if people are making any comments that you need to do dirty keto they don't get it. You are doing this for a serious mental illness and I think it is so important to do everything as strictly,as possible. and people will say your so Anal. I Admire that you are giving this 100%. If you don't you'll never know if your condition could have truly been changed for the better. Hopefully for the WAY BETTER. I have a question. If you are eating a keto snack and it has no carbs or sugar why would that not be okay to eat? Rob its been cool to have you in the videos. And Great to see your kids.
John Cade's "Lithium Salts in the Treatment of Psychotic Excitement" contained just three case vignettes. We have many many more times that number of reliable case examples for keto.
Can you speak more to your MH symptoms and how those are impacted by diet? Are you still having hallucinations and if so, is it less than your baseline before the diet?
@LivingWellwithSchizophrenia I noticed you were taking Acetyl L-carnitine which is more so for brain function (because it suppose to increase Acetylcholine in the brain) and L-carnitine is primarily for the heart. Are you taking this supplement to help with brain function? Just asking because I have ADHD and I was taking Acetyl L-carnitine for awhile hoping it would help with my ADHD but didn't notice any significant improvement.
Not sure if you have Base Culture sourdough Keto bread there but it's really good tasting and in the freezer section! I'm so excited for this series I am checking your channel every day. :D It's so fascinating! Your best work in my opinion.
Dear Lauren, I have been following you for quite some time. When you were having symptoms, I looked for the next video to see how you were doing. If eating this way improves your health, good. #teamlauren ❤
Such a sweet family❤ So interested in this KETO mental health diet and monitoring. In Sydney Australia, haven't heard anything... I will investigate with treating team for my son. If you have a link to the sites that you can purchase the monitors ? That would be helpful, so I dont get the wrong sort. I will try as a family, all in. AND if you need to mix without a mixer... use a pastry cutter, very old fashioned. A handle with U shaped cutters ( wire) really handy... use it for making meatballs 😂 or should I say meatbutts😊
Hi guys, thank you for sharing this. Compared to me, you are both nothing short of superhuman so I find your videos highly inspirational! I only wish I had just one tenth of your energy to get my act together 😂
I wonder if you should be wearing blue light blockers in the morning? In the morning, you want bright light (ideally outside in sunlight). Blue blockers after the sun goes down can be helpful.
@@BronsteinEmily My point was more that blocking blue light in the morning/daytime is not conducive to helping your circadian rhythm - you need to see the full spectrum then.
Right. I understood your point but I'm saying I don't think she's blocking blue light she is wearing glasses that shine blue light into her eyes @@kimberlyf4888
Well, I still desire to eat pizza and asian food while almost 2 months into keto! Not sure that desire will ever disappear so I can relate to the want of something you can no longer have. Otherwise, amazing how this low dose of antipsychotic is going well for you - such a big leap and very promising! And way to be so aware of potential mania- hopefully that does not happen - I wish there was no such thing as sleep and we could always be awake....Meanwhile, very fun video! I thought you and Rob ate all the same things, but apparently not when you have vastly different ketones lol. I strive for medical keto too though I average only about 3 mmol. I'm curious about all of your recipes.
She mentioned it in an earlier video as a side effect of her medication which can cause physical movement that is repetitive, blinking is just one manifestation of it. tardive dyskinesia is the name of this condition @@carriefernandez8705
I saw a recipe on youtube for keto cookies that are basically peanut butter and yogurt covered in dark chocolate, but I think the best PB for keto is the kind that you get at the store that you grind yourself, or the sugar free kind . Whole Foods has all the options here! There are lots of cooking for keto channels on here for anyone who reads this and is interested in making it yourself at home! :)
Congrats, you are a very lucky person. My family excommunicated me, and I have lived on and off the streets for the last 13 years. Luckily, a friend and her husband let me rent a room at a rate I can afford with my Social Security payments. Do you have any suggestions/recommendations for someone who can't afford a gym membership, keto-friendly foods, a keto coach, and bluelight glasses? Thank you.
Acetyl l carnitine is an anti depressant it doesnt just help with fat metabolism. It makes you wonder if medical keto accounts for all the improvements?
What meds do you take for your disorder? What can someone do if you are resistant to a drug you were on for 2years, I lowered my dose and now I am resistant on my normal dose
Glad to hear about your improved focus for reading! It’s nice to calm the mind, especially in this day and age, with some sustained, flow state activities like reading or hobbies. Thanks for taking us along, guys, and sending best wishes for a continued metabolic health journey :) ❤
I would not be able to do this, but your journey does make me think about my diet and how it influences my schizoaffective disorder. BTW please sleep enough. You can also take naps. But we need at least of 6 hour of sleep. Please i have been on that road.
@Wind-lx8zb firstly because there have been multiple studies that have shown it to be the case. Also, I have practiced as a chiropractor for over 20 years specializing in nutrition and digestive health. I have seen first hand the benefits of restoring gut health and its positive impact on certain aspects of mental health. My son has also been diagnosed with schizophrenia along with other Dx's that do seem to improve when his diet is adjusted. There is also a known correlation between "leaky gut" and fibromyalgia or the associated symptoms of FM.
@@Jethlin2020 have you embarked on a dietary journey for your son? Has it helped him? I read an interesting interview with someone in Australia that was able to but their Bipolar in remission along with their two sisters and 12 others who participated in the Fecal Matter Transplant. Gut health is SUPER important.
Did you spoke with your doctor about supplementing with Potassium ?. My docror said i should only take potassium when i have low potassium in my blood because it can cause cardiac arrest or attack ? I don't know the right name in english but that your heart stops😅 and is very serious. I was supplementing myself with Potassium too and my doctor went crazy. Please ask your doctor.
I tried keto a few years ago for weight loss. While I definitely saw a few benefits, my cholesterol spiked to very high levels. I know you're doing it for differents ressons and I hope you see success, but I would encourage you to watch your health closely on keto.
Oh and I don't know if you have Violife Vegan Cheese there, but it's made with Coconut Oil and it's not the "same" but I can't eat dairy and I like it! I think it's good for keto as well since it's coconut oil with mct and fat! (There are lots of other brands violife is just my favorite.)
Sleep feeling like a waste of time is definitely something to keep an eye of, yeah. It's probably just the change in energy and lifestyle, but... well you know
I wonder if there’s a link to the mthfr genetic polymorphism (mutation) to schizophrenia? My sister is on antipsychotic medication and has certain health conditions that I also have. I found out I have the mthfr mutation through the 23andMe test and changed my b vitamins to the methylated version which addressed my anxiety and depression. I read a study of how a group of people with schizophrenia were treated with methylated b complex and a huge percentage of them found their symptoms improve greatly. Worth investigating? I have high functioning autism and adhd and I know I have issues with my neurotransmitters. I’ve found going keto has improved certain issues. Sending love and healing to anybody that needs it ❤
What do you do for finances? Do either of you work? How do you pay for all this? It doesn't seem like reachable goals financially for the everyday person like me. Not relatable even though we both have schizoaffective disorder
She's doing UA-cam full time and I think Rob has a background in video editing as well. I agree that their lifestyle is virtually impossible for anyone with a small budget. My guess is that a lot of keto products they're showing are actually gifted. That or they're paying an enormous amount of money for all of this.
Unfortunately, what she is doing is VERY expensive. It's not just the diet. The monitor and test strips cost money, a keto coach is expensive, a therapist is expensive, the light therapy she's using is expensive. This is not accessible to someone on a low income.
People underestimate how much money a channel this size makes. This _is_ their job. This channel alone is more than enough to live on and they also make a killing off patreon subscribers and whatever else they sell/sponsor.
I’m happy for you but for the normal person finding support in the medical community is like searching for a needle in the haystack. Also all the gizmos you use to check ketones and blood sugar are very costly
My daughter has schizoid affected and without the medication she is taken I don't know what I would do. .If she doesn't take her medication it's not fun so many times we had to have her taken to behavior..I don't understand how changing a diet to ketos can help
The guides L has are all the difference, she has meds still, years of self knowledge and from a good health care system. Best wishes to you and your daughter❤ (See Chris Palmer author, his book, Lauren’s other videos)
I'm a former mental nurse and I totally agree with you. One of the key diagnostic components of a psychotic illness is little or no insight into the illness. It is very common for someone to stabilise on their medication. To exhibit the behaviours that are usual for them when not having a psychotic episode. However, they may not be vocalising their increasing belief that they no longer need the medication and in fact that it is actively harming them and is not helpful in any way. Please come to listen to your daughter and if she is having issues with medication( and yes, there can be) encourage her to speak with mental health team. I agree with Lauren, it is hard to believe that she is on her lowest every dose of medication and she is very well on it. In under one month. I agree that the lack of sleep and her wish but to do it is creeping towards mania. I sincerely hope that this has been the wonderful change in Lauren's life. That would be joyous. Remain an interested, open sceptic. And don't encourage your daughter in this direction
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I'm an SSRI serotonin guy, everyone I know who's tried them bitch that it numbs their depression. Okay.. I wanna be happy!
How come you are not sensitive to noise ? Working in a noisy café...
because of you, I try keto diet and it changes my depression drastically, so amazing. thank you
How long til you saw change
I just want to say what you and your family doing is really inspiring. I think in years to come you and others doing medical keto will be thought as pioneers in this type of intervention.It’s inspiring me as well. I have scizoaffective and I hope to do this one day too with help from my mental health team.
God Bless you Lauren. I wish you continued good health on your journey 💚
I'm on the same journey as we speak. I've seen many of your videos and came across this as I was searching keto diet vs schizophrenia. I'm on day 2 of carnivore diet.
Good luck, keep an eye on your BP and cholesterol periodically.
Almost 2 years on carnivore for schizophrenia and i am off my meds but wow what a hell. This did work for me but going off the meds in the right order might be SUPER helpful. I did this on my own, with my doctor who is not an expert on this, and going off meds in the right order, in retrospect, might have been so much easier. My depression went away first, schizophrenia at about the 8 week mark. Avoid sugar. I carry haldol on me key chain still for accidental sugar intake at restaurants that can trigger my symptoms almost right away (psychosis usually). I am very ill and at one point, about a year in, mostly off my meds i just starting crying in happiness and that went on for a few months. I did not realize i was not having smell correctly and many other senses and realizing they are back was just too much emotions at once so i cried daily. Carnivore is sort of the simple version of this diet. I jumped from 6 years vegan to carnivore because the meds suck and don't work that well. I do miss vegetables some but oh well. You probably don't need to worry about cholesterol as long as other metabolic features are healthy. Not a doc - clearly - but have a few and are well monitored and tested. Blood pressure may flux wildly, don't pass out, come off blood pressure meds perhaps. If you can get a metabolic doctor do that. I have good insurance but could not and was not going to wait so I am my doctors second patient to do this full on because i want to actually recover. I am still on my mood stabilizer because why not. All your stims, anti-depressants and even anti-psychotics will eventually sort of interfere with the ketones like your taking too much meds. ADHD for me got better last. I have gone from there is no way i don't end up dead - probably accidentally - without meds to i just take them in miniscule doses because i have always taken them my entire life (20+ years). I went from maxed out doses, sometimes over the dosing range, to the smallest doses they make. I eliminated 4 our of the 8 meds i took including vyvance, a harsh med that i never could function without prior. Your gut biome will reset, i am sure you have noticed. We are all horribly addicted to sugar, i am sure you have noticed. It only lasts a few weeks. Best of luck!
Hey, how are you doing on your journey? I lean more to carnviour diet too 😊
You've helped me as a mother so much. My youngest son is schizoaffective (and high functioning autistic) I've struggled finding good information and understanding. Sharing your journey has given me hope & helped me help him in better ways. 💗 Thank you for the bottom of my heart. We're exploring options with his doctor 's about keto for him. The medication he was on caused weight gain increases in appetite... He was recently diagnosed as diabetic. So definitely doing under a doctor's care if it is an option for him. ❤
Just to say, keto is EXCELLENT for diabetes treatment as well
Did he use olanzapine. My mother was talking to a women the other day she said it caused diabetes with her
Just a suggestion but I think it would be more beneficial if you said your son is someone living with schizoaffective disorder. It acknowledges that he has the disorder, but he is more than his disorder 😊 I wish you both the best
@@amberp1 Thank you. Appreciate that. I definitely will. ❤️
@@jeanpaultongeren125 (Respiradone) Risperdol is the one that's caused issues for him.
Lauren, you and Rob AND the kids have really put in the work during this Keto adventure. As we all know, Life has a way of not letting us get too comfortable with all the rainbows and lollipops and gumdrops of a "new thing" by reminding us to side-step the "piles' that poop...er, I mean POP UP in front of us from time to time. What I have very much enjoyed is BOTH of you feeling more and more comfortable with your Fanbase in here and sharing things with us all that quite possibly a few months ago was a No Way situation. I've learned a ton about things that I never thought twice about before and your sharing is not lost on your Fans! Cheers and Blessings From COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO 👋👍
Ah, scones of any kind. I’m 72 and have lost 40 lb on keto. I would like to lose 20 more but I’m kinda stuck. The hair on your youngest, beautiful. Your kids are delightful. You all work so hard, just like an Olympian . Best of luck.
I think cheddar cheese keto scones are possible with almond flour, etc.
I don't have schizophrenia or any of the disorders, but I do enjoy watching your content 😊
I also dont have it. I am doing the dieet now for increased wellness and weightloss. Just wanna feel even better.
Thanks!
What helped for sleep the most for me was:
- Going to bed precise on same time
- Bedjet; being sure the body is quite cold ; there is also chilipad and other systems ; in summer thicker bamboosheet under body
- not eating after dinner(I already stop at 15:00)
Other things ive done:
magnesieum 200-400mg not oxide form/calcium/zink in right dosage
blackout foil or really good reviewed sleep mask (not by standard consumers)
foam earbuds at least -30db , give it a try for a week at least , it takes a lot of time getting used too
Wind down routine:
Pulsetto sleep mode 10 mins
brain/fm app music, wind down mode
light morning 10mins + at night low light
Testing with ring.
HI Lauren, I feel that you enjoy so much the control of your capacities you get from this experimentation with medical keto. I am so happy to feel you that way. You are a true fighter. You impress me. You are beautiful.
keto or low-glycemic eating really helps me with my binge eating and depression. but if i noticed if i eat a lot of protein, it can lead to paranoia and manic episodes (due to slow COMT), so it's definitely a balancing act. im happy to see that you're being supported by so many professionals, ensuring you're safe and healthy. also, taking magnesium before bed can help with sleep for many people. wishing you the best.
❤❤. I'm keto. And I'm a sugar addict . I m trying 🎉🎉🎉
Glad to hear you're doing well with the new intervention, I pray it continues. Keto, or at least very low carb, is a precondition for my mental health, and I hope more people at least give it an honest try as you have.
Ou I'm also 32 with a schizoaffective diagnosis and just started keto two weeks ago to (currently of meds since November) I try to lift weight and walk on treadmill 2-3 times a week. Since starting I've lost 6lbs, my mind isn't racing as much my jaw isn't tense and genuinely feeling more positive. I also noticed I've started sleeping later then usual and you mentioning could be mania creeping in, I never thought of this! 🤔
Just wanted to mention to you that when I am on keto, my body just seems to naturally need less sleep. I have done keto off and on for years and when I am on it for longer periods, I do sleep less. So just sharing that in case it helps you.
Im really happy to see your happinest.
Rob and I are relatable. I can't have a relationship. Finding love is difficult. Im very laid back and easy and clingy. Most changes in diet has helped a lot. No caffeine or process foods of any kind . Fruits and veggies are my favorites. I take 3 meds a day . 70% less than in the last 10 years. Serqual, minipress and klonopin. If I can help anyone please reach out. Thank you for posting this video and keeping mental health awareness alive ..
Great to see! Be careful with your sleep. Glad you are keeping an eye on that. I know Dr. Palmer has discussed sometimes using a medical sleep aid if the patient starts sleeping less than 6 hours and pushing towards mania at least for a few days and by then it usually passes.
Also be careful with erythritol! I think allulose is a lot more benign but I'm not sure if it's available in Canada.
Cheers
Also very interesting to see two people eating the exact same things but one is have ketones 1.5 to 2x higher. I'm not sure if it can be explained entirely by the extra exercise Laruen does
Well of course because our bodies are organic and respond differently so that’s quite common
may i know how you can achieve 1.5 or 2 ketone levels? it seems really hard even with cutting all carbs except for blueberries and been having mct oil
So proud of you Lauren 🫶 Your eyes are soo beautiful! Zevia is SO good. It's the healthiest soda, solely stevia sweetened. :) Thankful to have it in Canada. 🇨🇦 Stevia tastes bitter to some people, not me though. :) It's the cilantro of sugar substitutes lol.
“Cilantro of sugar substitutes” is so accurate 😂
Thank you for sharing your journey with the world. You are an inspiration and a blessing!
So happy your journey is going well Lauren, and Rob, and I am wishing you all the health and serenity 🙏🏻💚
it is also so interesting how our bodies react so differently…I am still hanging on there but my experience is still not good at all so far…and it’s been over a month of very strict carbs plus two months prior of transitioning + working on it imperfectly. The 23:30 depression has gotten even worse. I gained weight.and other negatives. I am in a free keto support group and they say to trust the process and give it time but it’s so hard…I just received dr. Ede’s book and I hope that may help maybe tweaking something…for example I am one of those who cannot handle the sweeteners, plus I hate the taste. I am not craving any carbs at all but I am really not liking this way of eating…I am so needing this to work for the depression 🙏🏻
You don’t seem to have a flat affect anymore, it’s definitely helping from the outsider looking in perspective. I’m going to look into it to see if it helps ADHD coz Ritalin induced psychosis was not fun!
I started a month ago doing keto for me/cfs and that has caused brain inflammation and neurological issues. So far no discernable help. It doesn't help that I'm activity intolerant. Was hoping to shift my broken krebs cycle from glycolysis to fat.
Your videos make me feel special, and also like having a mental disorder can be a fun and rewarding obstacle to navigate. I wish I had the same luck as you have with Dr's though. It's been a nightmare.
I understand and want to validate that dealing with psychiatrists and other mental health practitioners really can be a nightmare. We have a long way to go when it comes to developing models of care that treat people with dignity and respect.
What a fun look into your life! Thank you.
When you are windeing down for the day make sure your electronics are set to filter out the blue light (night time mode) so that that doesnt interfere with your sleep.
Hi Lauren, just in case you see this comment - what is the cookbook you used (if it's keto specific)? Would love to know to get some recipe ideas that aren't just about bacon and deli meats :). Was just searching for alternative treatment methods and came across your channel again, perfect timing! Your channel really helped me a LOT about a year ago and I'm super grateful that you're doing this and sharing your knowledge on the topic, your research, etc. Wishing you and your family lots of love and health!
It is fascinating to me that your ketones are so high. That is really unusual, in my experience. I love hearing your experiences. Thanks so much for sharing.
Thank you so muh for sharing your journey!! This will help so many people.
So great. Keep on the good work. Your lifestyle changes are really inspiring!! But don't feel obliged to us to win the marathon!! We appreciate you and Rob anyway.
Lauren and Rob, i cant imagine me doing this for my schizoaffective disorder because taking antipsychotics since 2004 and then gaining 70 lbs in 2 months then turned into a dx of diabetes type 2 and i have the worst kind of brain fog (im also in my late 50s though) which keeps me from being able to function anywhere near how well you guys are functioning. Oh well, not your problem lol
Seems to my (non-MD) mind that Keto/metabolic therapy would help you with all that you are facing.
I hear what you say about the weight gain. Whatever you wish to do please do not be influenced by this process. I hope you have a great psychiatric but be that as it may, please do not stop or reduce your medication without talking to your psychiatrist
Yeah, they say antipsychotics lead to diabetes. Happened to me.
I have to add this comment so you will see it and others. I live with with mental health disorders myself. I was once a person that was great in my career. I had to go to different courts on a daily basis and handle matters that were severe. I was bonded for about 10 Million Dollars. Then after years, my mental health just ate at me..... I had no control over it. I went from 10 years as a outstanding person in in the court system and business owner. Then, my mental health went down. Since then, I have had multiple stays at a "mental facility". I am so glad.
Hi Lauren and Rob! Could you please do a video where you break down your weekly budget in relation to the costs associated with doing keto? I also have Schizoaffective disorder and I’m interested in trying keto, but it seems very expensive and not doable on my student budget. Thanks!
Ground beef and eggs are quite cheap. Good fat sources like mayo, heavy cream, coconut oil. Also not that bad
I find it saves me money.....mince, tuna and eggs are all reasonably priced, and I find that it blunts your appetite so I don't have to eat all the time anymore.
Can’t thank you enough for sharing your life journey
May god bless you in more ways than you can count. Your story and life is inspiring and spreads hope and joy. I pray you always be able to move forward and hopeful ❤❤❤
Nice summary, thanks. You've all got this
Hi Lauren, I can't express how exciting it is to even find any victories at this phase of the Keto journey for your mental health.
I tried the keto diet maybe 7 years ago, and for me, it just did not work. what happened was I never ate ice cream and once I went on the keto diet I'm not kidding you, every night I was eating a pint of ice cream I couldn't stop it. I didn't know what was happening and I still lost weight which is why I went on it. now I want to talk about why it's so important that you are counting macros, that you have any assistance to be very strict. if people are making any comments that you need to do dirty keto they don't get it. You are doing this for a serious mental illness and I think it is so important to do everything as strictly,as possible. and people will say your so Anal. I Admire that you are giving this 100%. If you don't you'll never know if your condition could have truly been changed for the better.
Hopefully for the WAY BETTER. I have a question. If you are eating a keto snack and it has no carbs or sugar why would that not be okay to eat?
Rob its been cool to have you in the videos. And Great to see your kids.
I’m so happy for you that this is successful ❤
John Cade's "Lithium Salts in the Treatment of Psychotic Excitement" contained just three case vignettes. We have many many more times that number of reliable case examples for keto.
Please do a what you eat in a day video too!
Love watching your journey and can't wait to see more! ❤
Can you speak more to your MH symptoms and how those are impacted by diet? Are you still having hallucinations and if so, is it less than your baseline before the diet?
@LivingWellwithSchizophrenia I noticed you were taking Acetyl L-carnitine which is more so for brain function (because it suppose to increase Acetylcholine in the brain) and L-carnitine is primarily for the heart. Are you taking this supplement to help with brain function? Just asking because I have ADHD and I was taking Acetyl L-carnitine for awhile hoping it would help with my ADHD but didn't notice any significant improvement.
Not sure if you have Base Culture sourdough Keto bread there but it's really good tasting and in the freezer section! I'm so excited for this series I am checking your channel every day. :D It's so fascinating! Your best work in my opinion.
Dear Lauren,
I have been following you for quite some time. When you were having symptoms, I looked for the next video to see how you were doing. If eating this way improves your health, good. #teamlauren ❤
I like watching you. Keep putting out videos often!
You guys are “nailing it” hope Chris is right.
Wonderful video; beautiful family!
Thank you, Lauren 😊 this video was great.
Such a sweet family❤ So interested in this KETO mental health diet and monitoring. In Sydney Australia, haven't heard anything... I will investigate with treating team for my son.
If you have a link to the sites that you can purchase the monitors ? That would be helpful, so I dont get the wrong sort. I will try as a family, all in. AND if you need to mix without a mixer... use a pastry cutter, very old fashioned. A handle with U shaped cutters ( wire) really handy... use it for making meatballs 😂 or should I say meatbutts😊
Hi guys, thank you for sharing this. Compared to me, you are both nothing short of superhuman so I find your videos highly inspirational! I only wish I had just one tenth of your energy to get my act together 😂
I wonder if you should be wearing blue light blockers in the morning? In the morning, you want bright light (ideally outside in sunlight). Blue blockers after the sun goes down can be helpful.
It looked like she was wearing blue light glasses
@@BronsteinEmily My point was more that blocking blue light in the morning/daytime is not conducive to helping your circadian rhythm - you need to see the full spectrum then.
Right. I understood your point but I'm saying I don't think she's blocking blue light she is wearing glasses that shine blue light into her eyes
@@kimberlyf4888
Im proud of you, i want to join!
Well, I still desire to eat pizza and asian food while almost 2 months into keto! Not sure that desire will ever disappear so I can relate to the want of something you can no longer have. Otherwise, amazing how this low dose of antipsychotic is going well for you - such a big leap and very promising! And way to be so aware of potential mania- hopefully that does not happen - I wish there was no such thing as sleep and we could always be awake....Meanwhile, very fun video! I thought you and Rob ate all the same things, but apparently not when you have vastly different ketones lol. I strive for medical keto too though I average only about 3 mmol. I'm curious about all of your recipes.
Interesting. Enjoy watching!
Would love to know if taking the carnitine is adversely affecting your sleep.
I’m watching this with interest. I don’t know if I could do KETO, but diet is so important
I tries have a medical keto lunch. Vegan vegetarianism, vegetarian, keto, lunches, dinners, oftener.
I don't know if you've noticed but Lauren's blinking has normalised. Yay!
What was wrong with her blinking before?
@@beezilneverleft3176 iirc she mentioned blinking too much or too fast as one of her symptoms/warning signs for psychosis.
That is great! I'm so happy for her 🎉🎉
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She mentioned it in an earlier video as a side effect of her medication which can cause physical movement that is repetitive, blinking is just one manifestation of it. tardive dyskinesia is the name of this condition @@carriefernandez8705
I saw a recipe on youtube for keto cookies that are basically peanut butter and yogurt covered in dark chocolate, but I think the best PB for keto is the kind that you get at the store that you grind yourself, or the sugar free kind . Whole Foods has all the options here! There are lots of cooking for keto channels on here for anyone who reads this and is interested in making it yourself at home! :)
I would go with paleo ketogenic diet in your place... no plants, just from nose to tail animal food with many supplements
This was very inspirational. I'm serious. Thank you
Congrats, you are a very lucky person. My family excommunicated me, and I have lived on and off the streets for the last 13 years. Luckily, a friend and her husband let me rent a room at a rate I can afford with my Social Security payments. Do you have any suggestions/recommendations for someone who can't afford a gym membership, keto-friendly foods, a keto coach, and bluelight glasses? Thank you.
Ground beef and eggs are cheap and will get you most of the way there with this diet. Buy the cheapest of those ou can
Acetyl l carnitine is an anti depressant it doesnt just help with fat metabolism. It makes you wonder if medical keto accounts for all the improvements?
What meds do you take for your disorder? What can someone do if you are resistant to a drug you were on for 2years, I lowered my dose and now I am resistant on my normal dose
I need to find my ketomojo.
Glad to hear about your improved focus for reading! It’s nice to calm the mind, especially in this day and age, with some sustained, flow state activities like reading or hobbies.
Thanks for taking us along, guys, and sending best wishes for a continued metabolic health journey :) ❤
Can you give us an update on your symptoms
Where do you find a keto coach?
I would not be able to do this, but your journey does make me think about my diet and how it influences my schizoaffective disorder.
BTW please sleep enough. You can also take naps. But we need at least of 6 hour of sleep. Please i have been on that road.
Thank you for sharing!
I truly believe that gut health or lack thereof, and intestinal permeability contribute significantly to certain mental health conditions.
Why do you believe that?
If you don't have gut health your health is either in the toilet or going downhill soon
@Wind-lx8zb firstly because there have been multiple studies that have shown it to be the case. Also, I have practiced as a chiropractor for over 20 years specializing in nutrition and digestive health. I have seen first hand the benefits of restoring gut health and its positive impact on certain aspects of mental health. My son has also been diagnosed with schizophrenia along with other Dx's that do seem to improve when his diet is adjusted. There is also a known correlation between "leaky gut" and fibromyalgia or the associated symptoms of FM.
@@Jethlin2020 kefir, saukruit, kimchi ecta
@@Jethlin2020 have you embarked on a dietary journey for your son? Has it helped him?
I read an interesting interview with someone in Australia that was able to but their Bipolar in remission along with their two sisters and 12 others who participated in the Fecal Matter Transplant.
Gut health is SUPER important.
Wonderful family ❤❤❤
Did you spoke with your doctor about supplementing with Potassium ?. My docror said i should only take potassium when i have low potassium in my blood because it can cause cardiac arrest or attack ? I don't know the right name in english but that your heart stops😅 and is very serious. I was supplementing myself with Potassium too and my doctor went crazy. Please ask your doctor.
I tried keto a few years ago for weight loss. While I definitely saw a few benefits, my cholesterol spiked to very high levels. I know you're doing it for differents ressons and I hope you see success, but I would encourage you to watch your health closely on keto.
Oh and I don't know if you have Violife Vegan Cheese there, but it's made with Coconut Oil and it's not the "same" but I can't eat dairy and I like it! I think it's good for keto as well since it's coconut oil with mct and fat! (There are lots of other brands violife is just my favorite.)
Sleep feeling like a waste of time is definitely something to keep an eye of, yeah. It's probably just the change in energy and lifestyle, but... well you know
I wonder if there’s a link to the mthfr genetic polymorphism (mutation) to schizophrenia? My sister is on antipsychotic medication and has certain health conditions that I also have. I found out I have the mthfr mutation through the 23andMe test and changed my b vitamins to the methylated version which addressed my anxiety and depression. I read a study of how a group of people with schizophrenia were treated with methylated b complex and a huge percentage of them found their symptoms improve greatly. Worth investigating? I have high functioning autism and adhd and I know I have issues with my neurotransmitters. I’ve found going keto has improved certain issues. Sending love and healing to anybody that needs it ❤
Hi Lauren, is it possible to share the buffalo tote recipe?
How have your symptoms been
What do you do for finances? Do either of you work? How do you pay for all this? It doesn't seem like reachable goals financially for the everyday person like me. Not relatable even though we both have schizoaffective disorder
I was wondering this as well. I am live off of disability and have a very small budget. I think that is probably common with severe mental illness.
She's doing UA-cam full time and I think Rob has a background in video editing as well. I agree that their lifestyle is virtually impossible for anyone with a small budget. My guess is that a lot of keto products they're showing are actually gifted. That or they're paying an enormous amount of money for all of this.
Unfortunately, what she is doing is VERY expensive. It's not just the diet. The monitor and test strips cost money, a keto coach is expensive, a therapist is expensive, the light therapy she's using is expensive. This is not accessible to someone on a low income.
People underestimate how much money a channel this size makes. This _is_ their job. This channel alone is more than enough to live on and they also make a killing off patreon subscribers and whatever else they sell/sponsor.
@@Lisa-td5qd I think they crowd sourced the money. Their last GoFundMe raised $22,000 and ended in September, 2023.
What kind of light therapy glasses are those? Do you feel that they work?
I am not clear, has it results in reduction in medication?
Where what was those blue light glasses?
‼️‼️‼️nurse here
no please continue to track this
It is educational
I just have so many doubts it could help me
In Psychiatrie: Ein Lehrbuch für Studierende und Ärzte Kraeplin wrote about his belief that dementia praecox was caused by "autointoxication".
Is there a recipe book that you use for your keto recipes?
What was the eyewear you were wearing that morning? The blue light
I have schizoaffective disorder. I quit making friends at age 16 in 1982 completely by choice. Then I dropped out of school.
This has been pretty interesting. I'm curious to know if you're still experiencing hallucinations.
Watching this video as I’m eating my chocolate sourdough scone 😅. At least it is homemade
I’m happy for you but for the normal person finding support in the medical community is like searching for a needle in the haystack. Also all the gizmos you use to check ketones and blood sugar are very costly
Since I've started Keto, I've lost 4 lbs and my blood sugar has dropped even though I'm doing this for my schizoaffective disorder. 👍😀
Are you doing this with the help of your psychiatrist?
@@india1422 Yes, just saw her yesterday.
Do the dr's ever hand out a urine colour chart to help with dehydration?
Hello lauren, could you tell me? What is the confusion they make between autism and schizophrenia?
Watch it with erythrotol and stevia.
What are your thoughts on consuming seed oils?
I think they said in a previous video that they’d be avoiding seed oils.
My daughter has schizoid affected and without the medication she is taken I don't know what I would do. .If she doesn't take her medication it's not fun so many times we had to have her taken to behavior..I don't understand how changing a diet to ketos can help
The guides L has are all the difference, she has meds still, years of self knowledge and from a good health care system. Best wishes to you and your daughter❤
(See Chris Palmer author, his book, Lauren’s other videos)
I'm a former mental nurse and I totally agree with you. One of the key diagnostic components of a psychotic illness is little or no insight into the illness. It is very common for someone to stabilise on their medication. To exhibit the behaviours that are usual for them when not having a psychotic episode. However, they may not be vocalising their increasing belief that they no longer need the medication and in fact that it is actively harming them and is not helpful in any way.
Please come to listen to your daughter and if she is having issues with medication( and yes, there can be) encourage her to speak with mental health team.
I agree with Lauren, it is hard to believe that she is on her lowest every dose of medication and she is very well on it. In under one month. I agree that the lack of sleep and her wish but to do it is creeping towards mania.
I sincerely hope that this has been the wonderful change in Lauren's life. That would be joyous.
Remain an interested, open sceptic. And don't encourage your daughter in this direction
What is your thoughts on carnivore?
Have you stopped your antipsychotics, or are you taken them?
She cut down slightly a couple of videos back.