One thing I like about these patches is their simplicity. There's nothing worse than having a ton of useless patches with all kinds of cascading modulations and things jumping in and out for the sake of showing off the depth of the synthesis engine. These kinds of patches can be easily tweaked and put into a track.
Yo Pete 👋 It definitely feels like a “Premium” synth action, a cut above the standard type on say a Juno DI or controller. Always hard to describe actions, hence why I always chicken out!! Thanks for stopping by Brother ✊
@@jackduxbury1632 Thanks Jack! Roland have told me that the keybed in the Fantom 07 is pretty much the same one in the Juno X. I've been jonesing for a compact all in one board for gigs on the go but we haven't gotten any of the 0-series Fantoms in Canada yet except the weighted 08. :/
Can we just have a video of you playing about an hour or so? Sort of a compilation of all your 80-ish tunes played back to back, edited and pieced together, whatever. I can play that all day, just in the background while I'm doing stuff, you know what I mean.
I've occasionally looked at buying an old '80s synth, but then I see that my old '90s synths barely work anymore - the batteries are dead so you can't save any patches, some of the buttons don't work, the LCD screens are starting to go, and it would be very expensive to have a tech fix them where I live. That's why I think getting a Juno-X makes a lot more sense as it gives you all the old synth sounds and a whole lot more with Roland Cloud. Great sounding patches, BTW. Thanks, Jack and Falcon.
If I had the room in my studio I’d buy this..I own a Juno 6 and had a Juno 106 back in the day s and love the Juno sound..it’s a work flow and sound that’s hard too explain and showcase in most vids you need too try one too understand it’s greatness
Sounds good, just like the 80's sounds I grew up to. I'm getting the Juno x one day. Yes there are many synths, software you can configure and tweak to get similar sounds, I have some, but need the OG in my studio arsenal. Will buy one used soon as I can. Grt for funk music😎
Hey Chris and Jack. You are always asking for feedback so just wanted to point out that the main camera on Jack is slightly rotated and not level. Just pointing it out for next time! Love all the vids!
That's a nice synth. I like it 😄 With a Deepmind 12, Hydrasynth and Montage, it's hard to justify though. But I would get one if I had a need for it for sure.
Those are three great synths!I’m not disrespecting any of them! I’ll take the X over the deep mind but, I’ll tell you what that montage is a beast! I’m looking 👀 at the hydrasynth next it seems like a great piece for the money. Hell it seems like a great piece just to be out there. Yeah I’m probably gonna have to pick one of those up. Looks like it’s got a good build quality too.
I know the feeling lol. I have the Fantom which has teh same engine - so can get those sounds if I need them. truth is I tend to go elsewhere.... I used to have a Deep Mind 12 but that went. Decent synth but I dont miss it. I had a hydrasynth as well - but that also went by the wayside. I do have a Peak and a Virus Ti2 alongside the fantom (the Virus is a live workhorse where its more dated VA isnt a problem - and it does the 95-2010 dance/pop classic sounds perfectly). The Deep Miond was replaced by a Prophet 6... and also an OB6 that cvame the month earlier. the Hydrasynth was replaced by an Iridium keyboard (poly AT as well) and I have aPro3 as well. IF I was stripping back.... Id have the Junox, with the Iridium, then the OB6 and P6 desktops. I could live with that.
@@suga4all Yes, there was a difference in sound but it wasn't that much really. Plus, I felt the 106 sound in the Juno-X to be more useable in my mixes. It fit in the mix better for me whereas I could always hear the System-8 in a mix with its "System-8 sound". So as far as the ACB being better, that depends on the user's taste. I like the chorus better on the Juno-X. Plus, the layout, 61 keys, full size keys and classic look. It just won the contest, although I really enjoyed the System-8 while I had it. It was hard to let it go.
@@b2zap665 Not really because I saved all of my patches to my Roland Cloud versions. They can reproduce the sound of the the plug-outs loaded in the System-8. The sound of the Juno-X 106 model worked better for me anyways in my mixes. The size and layout of the Juno-X is just so better than the System-8 in my opinion. Life is too short for for undersized keys.
@HiTekLoLife Don't be fooled by the internet echo chamber regarding some of this stuff. I had them both in the same studio for a long time. I liked the System-8, spent a lot of time with it but in the end the Juno-X won in sound and form. Might be different for someone else but it's not as cut and dry as an accuracy vs polyphony tradeoff. You have to try them for yourself.
I’m thinking of getting one. However, after having studied the manuals I’m still not clear on the workings of the LFO and envelopes. Can you send the LFO to three separate destinations OR only one destination at the time? Same question for the envelopes.
I own one and only thing I would add to this synth is polyphonic aftertouch.....would be a game changer for controllers if it had that. Even if you buy an old Ensonic just to get a poly aftertouch key bed it can still cost you $600-$1000 just to get Poly After Touch.......cheapest poly after touch synth new is Hydra Explorer $800 US.....would totally change it to a "great value/bang for buck" instead of slightly over priced for a pure digital synth. One of the best synths to come out in the last decade, this is Roland Getting the new ZenCore engine right imho. The JD-800 VST is outstanding and I have it in my JUNO X...... P.S...good on you using XLR outs : }
Really sounds like my juno 106 great new kit this How is the SUB with the original Juno 106 you'd have to be careful as the Sub could easily blow your speakers
Got mine and couldn’t believe how underrated this synth was.😂 lmao at people who wanted an affordable 106 and this is so much more. Hell get some wood side panels if it makes you feel better😂. At 50 I’m vintage myself and this synth made me happier than my subsequent 37! To be honest, the only downside, you’re going to have to learn to do some menu diving to really crank on it. Other than that, you should already own it.
@@shane864 we know that from not only Jack’s previous video but from history and the Roland rep on Jack’s previous video did mention that they would have wooden side panels for the X so it could be more like the 60 which is what I was referring to, but that wasn’t the point the point was if you wanted it to feel more vintage put some damn wood side panels on and stop complaining about how it isn’t exactly what it was in the past because it’s better today than it ever was
I wanted this so bad. Had one for a week but unfortunately it had to go back. The key bed on mine was really noisy I found it so distracting when playing quietly in the evening. But looks lovely and hopefully it was just the unit I was sent. Not from Andertons. It was an open box and badly packed so maybe just a damaged unit. Picked up a Deepmind 12 after it went back and have to say it was much better build quality and sounds great. But the Juno x has some cool features and the larger keyboard.
Jack do you have tinnitus ? Does anyone know when tinnitus will be cured.......I got it....24/7...... If I wanted to try and help get this cured what steps should I take lmfao
Hey Andy, I’m so sorry to hear that mate and yes I have been been through the mill with “T”. Those initial few weeks when I became aware of it were absolutely hellish for me and almost everything in my life suffered as a result. I couldn’t sleep, I had anxiety issues for the first time ever based around almost anything and everything. BUT I’m out the other side thankfully and here’s a few things that worked for me after trying everything… 1. Cutting out certain foods and substances - This one is the closest I’ve found to a cure. Turns out a lot of things can turn up the noise floor, for me the big offenders were Alcohol, Aspartame (Sweetener) and Caffeine. It was a doctor that suggested isolating different things in my diet and it works an absolute treat for me. I also added supplements like Ginkgo Bilboa, Lion’s Mane Mushroom extract and B vitamins - basically any nerve health supplements. The Ginkgo seemed to really help almost immediately! 2. Get a hearing test - I felt a huge amount of self loathing and guilt initially as I thought I must have caused the ringing I was hearing through all my years of loud shit synth playing etc. Again a Doctor said go get a test done, “It might not be caused by hearing damage”. Sure enough the test showed my hearing was fine and that the ringing wasn’t caused by music or me. This was a massive weight off my shoulders and I would gone to learn that hardly any tinnitus is caused by hearing damage mostly by odd nerve goings on, illness and anxiety. 3. Minimise Stress and maximise Sleep - easier said than done right?! But this one IS the big one. When I’m well rested and not stressed I simply don’t have tinnitus and that lead me to believe the “T” really is a psychosomatic manifestation. I was going through an awful relationship at the time it really kicked in, I was boozing to cope with it, working night and day and then bang - tinnitus. The straw that comes along to break the proverbial!! 🐪 If there’s one thing you get from this Bible of a comment I just hope it’s that the ringing will go away! The magic is to use how crappy and scary it is to force yourself to do the uncomfortably healthy things that perhaps were on the back burner. That’s what it felt like for me and still does. When I work to much, don’t sleep, have a few beers - there comes the ringing again 😔 Anyways - It’s so horrid and I’m very sorry you’re going through it right now but have faith mate and now it is most certainly not a life sentence Brother ✊
9.21: Why the hell do Roland make a preset arpeggio which doesnot keep the tempo if you can't play legato? Drum and arp should play together Always. :[
I want to love this, but there's something about it that sounds a bit too digital and plasticy to my ears. I really wish roland had just released an analog juno 60 reissue with more features, rather than this jack of all trades thats good at everything but not great to my ears. Granted a blind test would be tough, but there's something about the raw tone of the analog 60 that this doesn't do full justice to imo.
Quite uninspiring. I have an FA06 and I think it would take me 30-90 seconds to come up with these sounds which are extremely common variants of popular Juno 106 sounds (which I used to have). Spend 1 hour with Reveal's Aspire $99 soft synth and travel light years past this hardware synth that you just spent $2000 on. What a serious waste. Give me a Deepmind 12 for 1/2 the price over this any day of the week and I'm a Roland guy
@@vaiman7777 I'm merely saying that as someone in the industry 40 years and owned a hundred instruments what I heard coming out of the Juno X was not something very special, it was goad quality of course, just not so new unlike things like Pigments, Cobalt and Arturia doing more interesting things than Roland these days.
@@odmusicman Tbf, he was just flipping through a few presets. I own a Jupiter X, not so different to this. Having x4 different Jupiter X models playing simultaneously is something to behold. 16 oscillators of fun. Or add in a JX & SH with only 8 Jupiter oscillators. Problem is, these videos rarely show the true power of it. Just patches.
@@vaiman7777 I understand that, there isn't so much time to get into the meat of things. My FA06 is 16 part multitimbral and I have put together some whopper sounds with that. It can sound surprisingly analog with the right settings
You play like a beginner, laugh to yourself for nothing, and barely press to make more noise. What is this? That such a complex instrument does only that, a few noises?
Quite uninspiring. I have an FA06 and I think it would take me 30-90 seconds to come up with these sounds which are extremely common variants of popular Juno 106 sounds (which I used to have). Spend 1 hour with Reveal's Aspire $99 soft synth and travel light years past this hardware synth that you just spent $2000 on. What a serious waste. Give me a Deepmind 12 for 1/2 the price over this any day of the week and I'm a Roland guy.
The Juno X can have drums and 3 (4?) synth engines all at once, you can load new models, it has the Intelligent arpeggiator plus more. I think it sounds really good and as an Idea machine is where I think it would shine.
One thing I like about these patches is their simplicity. There's nothing worse than having a ton of useless patches with all kinds of cascading modulations and things jumping in and out for the sake of showing off the depth of the synthesis engine. These kinds of patches can be easily tweaked and put into a track.
Jack, what do you think of the feel of the keys?? Does the keybed feel like it's made to a high quality and feel satisfying to play?
Yo Pete 👋 It definitely feels like a “Premium” synth action, a cut above the standard type on say a Juno DI or controller. Always hard to describe actions, hence why I always chicken out!! Thanks for stopping by Brother ✊
@@jackduxbury1632 Thanks Jack! Roland have told me that the keybed in the Fantom 07 is pretty much the same one in the Juno X. I've been jonesing for a compact all in one board for gigs on the go but we haven't gotten any of the 0-series Fantoms in Canada yet except the weighted 08. :/
Couldn't agree more!
Exactly. I need presets which can be used in recordings with small tweaks. Nothing worse than lots of terrible, unusable presets
Wow! "...little bit of drive" sold it to me
You're so much fun :) I might go out and buy one of these today
That first set absolutely blew my mind.
Can we just have a video of you playing about an hour or so? Sort of a compilation of all your 80-ish tunes played back to back, edited and pieced together, whatever. I can play that all day, just in the background while I'm doing stuff, you know what I mean.
I've occasionally looked at buying an old '80s synth, but then I see that my old '90s synths barely work anymore - the batteries are dead so you can't save any patches, some of the buttons don't work, the LCD screens are starting to go, and it would be very expensive to have a tech fix them where I live. That's why I think getting a Juno-X makes a lot more sense as it gives you all the old synth sounds and a whole lot more with Roland Cloud. Great sounding patches, BTW. Thanks, Jack and Falcon.
I love my Juno X. It has completely eliminated my Juno GAS I’ve had for years. Very underrated, a joy to play, and beautiful sound. 👍🏻
If I had the room in my studio I’d buy this..I own a Juno 6 and had a Juno 106 back in the day s and love the Juno sound..it’s a work flow and sound that’s hard too explain and showcase in most vids you need too try one too understand it’s greatness
Hi Jack and crew!!! Can I come over there in the new year and shoot a video you?!
man this thing sounds INCREDIBLE!
Sounds good, just like the 80's sounds I grew up to. I'm getting the Juno x one day. Yes there are many synths, software you can configure and tweak to get similar sounds, I have some, but need the OG in my studio arsenal. Will buy one used soon as I can. Grt for funk music😎
Nice demo, it sounds good.
Hey Chris and Jack. You are always asking for feedback so just wanted to point out that the main camera on Jack is slightly rotated and not level. Just pointing it out for next time! Love all the vids!
Eww now that i studied it more, the camera is level compared to the "A" decal's on the wall but the table is not? Hahah oh well disregard lollll
That's a nice synth. I like it 😄 With a Deepmind 12, Hydrasynth and Montage, it's hard to justify though. But I would get one if I had a need for it for sure.
Those are three great synths!I’m not disrespecting any of them! I’ll take the X over the deep mind but, I’ll tell you what that montage is a beast! I’m looking 👀 at the hydrasynth next it seems like a great piece for the money. Hell it seems like a great piece just to be out there. Yeah I’m probably gonna have to pick one of those up. Looks like it’s got a good build quality too.
@@damonsiegiel7855 I have done all my albums with those three synths. Check them out if you feel like it :)
@@OswaldoVonSchnoobenstein definitely I’m always up to listen to some new music for sure. I’ll check them out tomorrow at work.
I know the feeling lol. I have the Fantom which has teh same engine - so can get those sounds if I need them. truth is I tend to go elsewhere.... I used to have a Deep Mind 12 but that went. Decent synth but I dont miss it. I had a hydrasynth as well - but that also went by the wayside. I do have a Peak and a Virus Ti2 alongside the fantom (the Virus is a live workhorse where its more dated VA isnt a problem - and it does the 95-2010 dance/pop classic sounds perfectly). The Deep Miond was replaced by a Prophet 6... and also an OB6 that cvame the month earlier. the Hydrasynth was replaced by an Iridium keyboard (poly AT as well) and I have aPro3 as well. IF I was stripping back.... Id have the Junox, with the Iridium, then the OB6 and P6 desktops. I could live with that.
Be great if you could advise on what monitor speakers & audio interface you use for the review(s) Many Thanks.
I know the I-Arpeggio isn’t the same, but I would love to see Jack explore a Kronos with the KARMA engine running.
Or even better my Oasys!
Pretty sure there is an OASYS video on the channel as they got one in used.. although can't remember if there was any digging into Karma
Well done. Sold my System-8 after getting one of these.
Do you miss the sound of the S8 at all? Some slight differences between the sound but not much noticeable threw the demos I’ve heard
Do you feel any difference? The Juno X is ABM whereas the System 8 is based on the more accurate ACB.
@@suga4all Yes, there was a difference in sound but it wasn't that much really. Plus, I felt the 106 sound in the Juno-X to be more useable in my mixes. It fit in the mix better for me whereas I could always hear the System-8 in a mix with its "System-8 sound". So as far as the ACB being better, that depends on the user's taste. I like the chorus better on the Juno-X. Plus, the layout, 61 keys, full size keys and classic look. It just won the contest, although I really enjoyed the System-8 while I had it. It was hard to let it go.
@@b2zap665 Not really because I saved all of my patches to my Roland Cloud versions. They can reproduce the sound of the the plug-outs loaded in the System-8. The sound of the Juno-X 106 model worked better for me anyways in my mixes. The size and layout of the Juno-X is just so better than the System-8 in my opinion. Life is too short for for undersized keys.
@HiTekLoLife Don't be fooled by the internet echo chamber regarding some of this stuff. I had them both in the same studio for a long time. I liked the System-8, spent a lot of time with it but in the end the Juno-X won in sound and form. Might be different for someone else but it's not as cut and dry as an accuracy vs polyphony tradeoff. You have to try them for yourself.
ohh no, now i got post Christmas gear acquisition syndrome PCGAS for short 🤣
💯😂😂
@@Firetracks im gona start requesting GAS health services from Anderton`s soon. its properly mental now ! 🤣🤣🤣 Help, Help. Medic !!!!
@@The_Sonic_Ally 😂😂😂
As you say Jack, it's 'well good'.
What is that wicket beat in the intro that lasts a few seconds?
Sounds heavenly!
sounds real good
I’m thinking of getting one. However, after having studied the manuals I’m still not clear on the workings of the LFO and envelopes. Can you send the LFO to three separate destinations OR only one destination at the time? Same question for the envelopes.
I own one and only thing I would add to this synth is polyphonic aftertouch.....would be a game changer for controllers if it had that. Even if you buy an old Ensonic just to get a poly aftertouch key bed it can still cost you $600-$1000 just to get Poly After Touch.......cheapest poly after touch synth new is Hydra Explorer $800 US.....would totally change it to a "great value/bang for buck" instead of slightly over priced for a pure digital synth. One of the best synths to come out in the last decade, this is Roland Getting the new ZenCore engine right imho. The JD-800 VST is outstanding and I have it in my JUNO X...... P.S...good on you using XLR outs : }
Really sounds like my juno 106 great new kit this How is the SUB with the original Juno 106 you'd have to be careful as the Sub could easily blow your speakers
Yeeees!
Lovely stuff.
Got mine and couldn’t believe how underrated this synth was.😂 lmao at people who wanted an affordable 106 and this is so much more. Hell get some wood side panels if it makes you feel better😂.
At 50 I’m vintage myself and this synth made me happier than my subsequent 37! To be honest, the only downside, you’re going to have to learn to do some menu diving to really crank on it. Other than that, you should already own it.
This has 106 side panels. The only Junos that had "wood" were the 6/60.
@@shane864 we know that from not only Jack’s previous video but from history and the Roland rep on Jack’s previous video did mention that they would have wooden side panels for the X so it could be more like the 60 which is what I was referring to, but that wasn’t the point the point was if you wanted it to feel more vintage put some damn wood side panels on and stop complaining about how it isn’t exactly what it was in the past because it’s better today than it ever was
But... Where's the hoover 😳
I wanted this so bad. Had one for a week but unfortunately it had to go back. The key bed on mine was really noisy I found it so distracting when playing quietly in the evening. But looks lovely and hopefully it was just the unit I was sent. Not from Andertons. It was an open box and badly packed so maybe just a damaged unit. Picked up a Deepmind 12 after it went back and have to say it was much better build quality and sounds great. But the Juno x has some cool features and the larger keyboard.
So juno x or prophet rev2?
Digital vs Analog… my pref is rev2, but today i bought juno x because it was in huge sale… rev 2 is raw analog dream
"for a layman like me..." 😂
Ok.....I want one!
Not gonna lie, sounds great, just not a synth I would use.
Notifications are broken once again.
EDIT nah I just missed the notify, as you were...
Roland jupiter x...? Roland juno x ...? Roland fantom 6...? Nr1...? Ketron event 61...?
Jack do you have tinnitus ? Does anyone know when tinnitus will be cured.......I got it....24/7......
If I wanted to try and help get this cured what steps should I take lmfao
Hey Andy, I’m so sorry to hear that mate and yes I have been been through the mill with “T”. Those initial few weeks when I became aware of it were absolutely hellish for me and almost everything in my life suffered as a result. I couldn’t sleep, I had anxiety issues for the first time ever based around almost anything and everything. BUT I’m out the other side thankfully and here’s a few things that worked for me after trying everything…
1. Cutting out certain foods and substances - This one is the closest I’ve found to a cure. Turns out a lot of things can turn up the noise floor, for me the big offenders were Alcohol, Aspartame (Sweetener) and Caffeine. It was a doctor that suggested isolating different things in my diet and it works an absolute treat for me. I also added supplements like Ginkgo Bilboa, Lion’s Mane Mushroom extract and B vitamins - basically any nerve health supplements. The Ginkgo seemed to really help almost immediately!
2. Get a hearing test - I felt a huge amount of self loathing and guilt initially as I thought I must have caused the ringing I was hearing through all my years of loud shit synth playing etc. Again a Doctor said go get a test done, “It might not be caused by hearing damage”. Sure enough the test showed my hearing was fine and that the ringing wasn’t caused by music or me. This was a massive weight off my shoulders and I would gone to learn that hardly any tinnitus is caused by hearing damage mostly by odd nerve goings on, illness and anxiety.
3. Minimise Stress and maximise Sleep - easier said than done right?! But this one IS the big one. When I’m well rested and not stressed I simply don’t have tinnitus and that lead me to believe the “T” really is a psychosomatic manifestation. I was going through an awful relationship at the time it really kicked in, I was boozing to cope with it, working night and day and then bang - tinnitus. The straw that comes along to break the proverbial!! 🐪
If there’s one thing you get from this Bible of a comment I just hope it’s that the ringing will go away! The magic is to use how crappy and scary it is to force yourself to do the uncomfortably healthy things that perhaps were on the back burner. That’s what it felt like for me and still does. When I work to much, don’t sleep, have a few beers - there comes the ringing again 😔
Anyways - It’s so horrid and I’m very sorry you’re going through it right now but have faith mate and now it is most certainly not a life sentence Brother ✊
@@jackduxbury1632 my hearing got super low I just noticed it’s so beautiful lmfao.:,) ahhhh. What a vibe. WHAT A VIBE!!!! We out here.
My tinnitus*
@@jackduxbury1632 and it’s back what a moment lmfao 🤣
9.21: Why the hell do Roland make a preset arpeggio which doesnot keep the tempo if you can't play legato? Drum and arp should play together Always. :[
I want to love this, but there's something about it that sounds a bit too digital and plasticy to my ears. I really wish roland had just released an analog juno 60 reissue with more features, rather than this jack of all trades thats good at everything but not great to my ears. Granted a blind test would be tough, but there's something about the raw tone of the analog 60 that this doesn't do full justice to imo.
So the question on everyone's mind: Is the Juno-X a blatant rip-off of the Deepmind 12?
No, the question on my mind, is the deepmind a rip off of the Juno 106. 🤔
@@timbrandon1466 It started out as a Juno clone but then Behringer decided to add to it to the point where it was hardly a copy anymore
yup
Deepmind is badass
Only if you know nothing about synth history. smh
Vst in a box.
Helluva box.
Better than analogue
cant believe roland ripped off behringer like this smh
Quite uninspiring. I have an FA06 and I think it would take me 30-90 seconds to come up with these sounds which are extremely common variants of popular Juno 106 sounds (which I used to have). Spend 1 hour with Reveal's Aspire $99 soft synth and travel light years past this hardware synth that you just spent $2000 on. What a serious waste. Give me a Deepmind 12 for 1/2 the price over this any day of the week and I'm a Roland guy
Feel better now hun?
@@vaiman7777 I'm merely saying that as someone in the industry 40 years and owned a hundred instruments what I heard coming out of the Juno X was not something very special, it was goad quality of course, just not so new unlike things like Pigments, Cobalt and Arturia doing more interesting things than Roland these days.
@@odmusicman Tbf, he was just flipping through a few presets. I own a Jupiter X, not so different to this. Having x4 different Jupiter X models playing simultaneously is something to behold. 16 oscillators of fun. Or add in a JX & SH with only 8 Jupiter oscillators.
Problem is, these videos rarely show the true power of it. Just patches.
@@vaiman7777 I understand that, there isn't so much time to get into the meat of things. My FA06 is 16 part multitimbral and I have put together some whopper sounds with that. It can sound surprisingly analog with the right settings
You play like a beginner, laugh to yourself for nothing, and barely press to make more noise. What is this? That such a complex instrument does only that, a few noises?
Quite uninspiring. I have an FA06 and I think it would take me 30-90 seconds to come up with these sounds which are extremely common variants of popular Juno 106 sounds (which I used to have). Spend 1 hour with Reveal's Aspire $99 soft synth and travel light years past this hardware synth that you just spent $2000 on. What a serious waste. Give me a Deepmind 12 for 1/2 the price over this any day of the week and I'm a Roland guy.
The Juno X can have drums and 3 (4?) synth engines all at once, you can load new models, it has the Intelligent arpeggiator plus more. I think it sounds really good and as an Idea machine is where I think it would shine.