Buying cheap gas can actually cost you more in the long run. MotorWeek master technician Pat Goss says to be careful when shopping for the best price on gas.
I just had this problem recently in my 2014 Mitsubishi Lancer ES. That said, however, I did not smell any rotten eggs, but I did feel the sulfur clogging my catalytic converter, resulting in an engine light and reduced acceleration performance. Naturally, people at AutoZone and O'Reilly told me that I needed a new catalytic converter, but I tried putting a catalytic converter cleaner to remedy the solution, and it resolved the problem.
If Pat says it you can take it to the bank, he has been in the business forever through Motorweek, his own garage and radio show at the World Building in Silver Spring Maryland.
Top Tier Gasoline. Basically a voluntary program by manufacturers and fuel distributors that use above Federal Standards for detergent concentration and more efficient burning of fuel and cleaner fuel injectors and the fuel system in general. They don’t charge more for Top Tier rating. If the station is a Top Tier participant then they don’t charge extra. They could possibly charge slightly more than competitors without TopTier but if so usually maybe about 02-03. cents a gallon!
Some time is necessary replaced the all unit , but before do that , in my case I do own an 1999 mercedes clk 430 whit a really bat fuel gate unit , and I used Marvel Mystery Oil , and work for me , right now I own 2005 chevy tahoe have the same problem , and the Marvel star improve my fuel gauge , I do think you guys need to try whit some additives firs , in order to save money , ok .
Thank you....I think a Chevron gas and fuel cleaner additive just might fix my fuel gauge bug....I'll let you know..It's now March 19 ,2020...it was fix by..........?
I wouldn't jump from brand to brand of gasoline. Stick with a good quality gasoline such as Shell, Exxon/Mobil or BP which are known to contain a good amount of detergent.
+LouieGMDesign I figured as much. I've never had any issues with their gas but I'm more partial to Shell or BP. However, my spouce HATES BP with a passion after the mishap in the gulf.
LouieGMDesign13 Exxon Mobil synergy gas is the best by far. Chevron Texaco is next best in my opinion. BP is ok but no great and Shell is the poorest performing in my experience as far as the top tier brands go. Regarding Pacecar, Liberty, Raceway, Marathon and other lower tier fuels I avoid them unless I have no choice such as risking running out of gas before the next station.
Why do they have to be "the same"? Of course they're not chemically absolutely identical and the products aren't the same color either. So what? If they meet the federal standard, they are adequate. With that said, there is some evidence that "tier one" gasoline may offer superior cleaning properties and could be worth the extra few cents.
If I were you, I'd stay FAR away from QuikTrip! My vehicles run like crap on their so called " Guaranteed Gasoline". They put much more than 10 percent ethanol in their E10. Ruined countless 2 cycle engines with that crap.
Why is there a different scent in winter / summer fuels after they are combusted by your car??? Fuel stabilizers? I personally add Startron to all of my fuel in mowers, 2-stroke quads, truck because I had seen issues with a lot of moisture / stale fuel when a divise has sat for awhile. I work on a lot of equipment.
I had the same question recently when noticing decreasing mpg when it gets cold every year. Winter gas is a different mixture than the rest of the year. Basically it's a less pure fuel, hence cheaper, leading to more harmful emissions and less mpg. Just do a search on it for a more detailed explanation.
fattony123082 During the winter they change the composition of that gas, what they do is add additives to prevent freezing and quick starting in the cold weather.
I had trouble with my last vehicle with the injectors clogging...I would have to pour a bottle of techron fuel system cleaner in every now and then. The day I started using Chevron gas was the day the clogging problem completely stopped.
So, is filling up at grocery store owned gas stations bad? Here in California a few Food 4 Less & Ralphs (both owned by Kroger) have gas stations. They are cheaper than Arco, and are always busy.
yall have an ARCO gas stations.. WOW!!! damn does that bring back memory's here in phila we had an ARCO GO PATROL it was famous they would put a announcer and a phila hiway cop ( who were like REALL BADASSES!! ) in a helicopter and give road conditions live ( one time some dude robbed some body on the street and the chopper chased the guy down and the hiway cop jumped out and locked him up ....live on the radio.... ha philadelphia!!!!
I remember them...even amoco is now all BP...I remdmber the Gulf refinery in Philly, all gone, same with Marcus hook refinery...they all move to Tx. where air pollution is of no concern, at least in the Northeast Air matters, and water, not in Tx. The rubes know best, just ask em.@@pondersoa8223
The guy is right. I kept on telling my family members to stop going to cheap gas station. You only save a few bucks, but then later on replacing the fuel sending unit cost them almost $500 and a shitty running engine because of stale gas and deposits on the valves and internals, which then fails smog check, then another $800 to de-carbon the valves and the internals and a tune up. Wow, great savings there huh?
I have a 2008 Jetta 2.0T that has carbon build up in the engine. Is there anything that I can do to keep this from happing again? The dealer also wants 700 dollars to do the cleaning.
new versions of the 2.0t have better cooling in the top end of the engines...I had zero carbon issues on my last few versions of the latest 2.0T...the older ones where walnut blasted and yes that price is about right, unless still under warranty. My current 2019 Golf R 88,000 fun miles, not one issue, no buildup
"BG"? More like "BS". It's a magic fuel additive that goes back thousands of years, developed in ancient Greece by a prince from the planet gellacton that would fly down to Earth on his unicorn, every Sunday morning, clutching a can of "BS".
my honda civic 2010 hybrid shows engine light on for some weeks then off i change O2 sensor and catalytic converter still problem persist now honda dealer says change PO420 CAT System below threshold(replace exhaust manifold catalyst) please advise
My dad has never put anything but 91 even wen he had a 82 toyota. Now i myself do the same to all my cars 91 only and from chevron. Or if chevron aint around i put 76 or shell, Rarely though. Cheap shit tske u not to far.
The gas comes from the same depots...one thing true is high volume stations will have fresher gas...gas can go stale, after a long long time. I was told by other EXPERTS, buy the cheapest gas ya can it comes from the same depots, and it does. I travel in 5 states, last VW Jetta was 316,000 miles VR6, NEVER had a gas issue, bought gas all over the 5 states. Paying more in high price states is, not better gas, it's just more over priced!
Refiners ship gas for all brands, when one refinery is making one thing, another brand can fill the void...it's all mixed, ...Here BP is always teh cheapest on the local highway, out of 4 different brands, Exxon, Citgo, BP, Shell, WaWa...BP is also a top tier, with delivery trucks, with no names, like all stations now..
zhbvenkhoReload my so called German money pit has 165,000 miles on it an still no major repairs, enjoy your so called "American" car full of cheap imported parts.
I remember watching motor week on weekends and looking forward to Goss ' garage.
I just had this problem recently in my 2014 Mitsubishi Lancer ES. That said, however, I did not smell any rotten eggs, but I did feel the sulfur clogging my catalytic converter, resulting in an engine light and reduced acceleration performance. Naturally, people at AutoZone and O'Reilly told me that I needed a new catalytic converter, but I tried putting a catalytic converter cleaner to remedy the solution, and it resolved the problem.
"top tier" gas is the way to go with most modern vehicles.
well if you are worried about old gasoline, don't ever go to expensive stations. There is almost never anyone there.
Good tip, cheap gas can be more costly in the long run.
R.i.p.
If Pat says it you can take it to the bank, he has been in the business forever through Motorweek, his own garage and radio show at the World Building in Silver Spring Maryland.
Good information.. thanks. This is true and I experience this too.
You deserve more attention and views.
Top Tier Gasoline. Basically a voluntary program by manufacturers and fuel distributors that use above Federal Standards for detergent concentration and more efficient burning of fuel and cleaner fuel injectors and the fuel system in general. They don’t charge more for Top Tier rating. If the station is a Top Tier participant then they don’t charge extra. They could possibly charge slightly more than competitors without TopTier but if so usually maybe about 02-03. cents a gallon!
Some time is necessary replaced the all unit , but before do that , in my case I do own an 1999 mercedes clk 430 whit a really bat fuel gate unit , and I used Marvel Mystery Oil , and work for me , right now I own 2005 chevy tahoe have the same problem , and the Marvel star improve my fuel gauge , I do think you guys need to try whit some additives firs , in order to save money , ok .
Thank you....I think a Chevron gas and fuel cleaner additive just might fix my fuel gauge bug....I'll let you know..It's now March 19 ,2020...it was fix by..........?
As I sure others have stated, we are more interested in Shell vs. Wawa. Some experts state the quality is the same but is it?
Oh yeah, I see what you mean. Never heard that term before, but I agree.
I wouldn't jump from brand to brand of gasoline. Stick with a good quality gasoline such as Shell, Exxon/Mobil or BP which are known to contain a good amount of detergent.
+LouieGMDesign How about SAM's Club?
I'm not sure if Sam's Club gasoline is considered what is known as 'Top Tier' gasoline.
+LouieGMDesign I figured as much. I've never had any issues with their gas but I'm more partial to Shell or BP. However, my spouce HATES BP with a passion after the mishap in the gulf.
LouieGMDesign13 Exxon Mobil synergy gas is the best by far. Chevron Texaco is next best in my opinion. BP is ok but no great and Shell is the poorest performing in my experience as far as the top tier brands go. Regarding Pacecar, Liberty, Raceway, Marathon and other lower tier fuels I avoid them unless I have no choice such as risking running out of gas before the next station.
Shell is not American, BP is not American-- either you buy American or not.
i heard on a national news broadcast that gasoline is same, it all comes from same refineries
Transportation costs are high. Usually it all comes from the refinery closest to your home.
But the additives aren't the same.
Why do they have to be "the same"? Of course they're not chemically absolutely identical and the products aren't the same color either. So what? If they meet the federal standard, they are adequate. With that said, there is some evidence that "tier one" gasoline may offer superior cleaning properties and could be worth the extra few cents.
Top Tier in the USA are the following!
76 Stations,
Aloha Petroleum,
Chevron,
Conoco,
CountryMark,
Entec Stations,
Exxon,
Hawaii Fueling Network (HFN),
Holiday Stationstores, Inc.,
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star,
MFA Oil Co.,
Mileage Stations,
Mobil,
Ohana Fuels,
Phillips 66,
Quik Trip,
Rebel Oil,
Road Ranger,
Severson Oil,
Shell,
Texaco,
Tri-Par Oil Co.,
U.S. Oil
If I were you, I'd stay FAR away from QuikTrip! My vehicles run like crap on their so called " Guaranteed Gasoline". They put much more than 10 percent ethanol in their E10. Ruined countless 2 cycle engines with that crap.
Nice CBX in the background! :)
I love BG 44K. Oh and Pat too!
Think it would be a sulfide and not an oxide
Why is there a different scent in winter / summer fuels after they are combusted by your car??? Fuel stabilizers? I personally add Startron to all of my fuel in mowers, 2-stroke quads, truck because I had seen issues with a lot of moisture / stale fuel when a divise has sat for awhile. I work on a lot of equipment.
I had the same question recently when noticing decreasing mpg when it gets cold every year. Winter gas is a different mixture than the rest of the year. Basically it's a less pure fuel, hence cheaper, leading to more harmful emissions and less mpg. Just do a search on it for a more detailed explanation.
fattony123082 During the winter they change the composition of that gas, what they do is add additives to prevent freezing and quick starting in the cold weather.
I had trouble with my last vehicle with the injectors clogging...I would have to pour a bottle of techron fuel system cleaner in every now and then. The day I started using Chevron gas was the day the clogging problem completely stopped.
Lucas Fuel injector cleaner.
So, is filling up at grocery store owned gas stations bad? Here in California a few Food 4 Less & Ralphs (both owned by Kroger) have gas stations. They are cheaper than Arco, and are always busy.
yall have an ARCO gas stations.. WOW!!! damn does that bring back memory's here in phila we had an ARCO GO PATROL it was famous they would put a announcer and a phila hiway cop ( who were like REALL BADASSES!! )
in a helicopter and give road conditions live
( one time some dude robbed some body on the street and the chopper chased the guy down and the hiway cop jumped out and locked him up ....live on the radio....
ha philadelphia!!!!
I remember them...even amoco is now all BP...I remdmber the Gulf refinery in Philly, all gone, same with Marcus hook refinery...they all move to Tx. where air pollution is of no concern, at least in the Northeast Air matters, and water, not in Tx. The rubes know best, just ask em.@@pondersoa8223
The guy is right. I kept on telling my family members to stop going to cheap gas station. You only save a few bucks, but then later on replacing the fuel sending unit cost them almost $500 and a shitty running engine because of stale gas and deposits on the valves and internals, which then fails smog check, then another $800 to de-carbon the valves and the internals and a tune up. Wow, great savings there huh?
A guy is going to complain that he got shot once, even if other people got shot 2-4 times. It still hurts...
You get a sulfide, not an oxide.
Welcome to 2020 where gas is under $1
How about now in 2022? :)
Welcome to 2022, where gas is over $4
bg44k is good stuff.
Only our crappy Ca gas is bad... in one month it's gone, it eat up rubber lines, carbs, ect. tired of this shitty low octane gas out here.
cobra454tim "E-10" Ethanol makes it bad. EPA mandates it!
It is mandatory almost everywhere to destroy your car,if it not maintained
I have a 2008 Jetta 2.0T that has carbon build up in the engine. Is there anything that I can do to keep this from happing again? The dealer also wants 700 dollars to do the cleaning.
new versions of the 2.0t have better cooling in the top end of the engines...I had zero carbon issues on my last few versions of the latest 2.0T...the older ones where walnut blasted and yes that price is about right, unless still under warranty. My current 2019 Golf R 88,000 fun miles, not one issue, no buildup
google "top tier" gas. has nothing to do with grade.
WHERE Did Pat's neck go?
Yeet
He died Recently
WOW!! BG must be paying you a boat load..
"BG"? More like "BS". It's a magic fuel additive that goes back thousands of years, developed in ancient Greece by a prince from the planet gellacton that would fly down to Earth on his unicorn, every Sunday morning, clutching a can of "BS".
***** you have no clue
If you want that Carbon Built up gone, do a WOT couple of times on the highway. Enter the highway like you stole the car.
because in europe you can walk down the st and your ever where in america you need to travel everwere
my honda civic 2010 hybrid shows engine light on for some weeks then off i change O2 sensor and catalytic converter still problem persist now honda dealer says change PO420 CAT System below threshold(replace exhaust manifold catalyst) please advise
Yeah ,it stinks ☺️☺️☺️
Gas is cheaper than water in Saudi Arabia
Who stole Goss's neck?
Eks calybur Goss'
Eks calybur Goss's diet and age.
Yeet
Use LUCAS fuel conditioner to boost your mpg. It pays for itself.
VW says no to any additives in a store shelf, and most are useless...same as oil additives
My dad has never put anything but 91 even wen he had a 82 toyota. Now i myself do the same to all my cars 91 only and from chevron. Or if chevron aint around i put 76 or shell, Rarely though. Cheap shit tske u not to far.
The gas comes from the same depots...one thing true is high volume stations will have fresher gas...gas can go stale, after a long long time. I was told by other EXPERTS, buy the cheapest gas ya can it comes from the same depots, and it does. I travel in 5 states, last VW Jetta was 316,000 miles VR6, NEVER had a gas issue, bought gas all over the 5 states. Paying more in high price states is, not better gas, it's just more over priced!
The thing is,in my area,they are the same price.So I'm going to go with the name brand.I only go to a station that has a refinery.
Refiners ship gas for all brands, when one refinery is making one thing, another brand can fill the void...it's all mixed, ...Here BP is always teh cheapest on the local highway, out of 4 different brands, Exxon, Citgo, BP, Shell, WaWa...BP is also a top tier, with delivery trucks, with no names, like all stations now..
The people in Asia get our jobs. And the people in Europe...well, they're European.
OMG another stupid reason to try fuel treatment. When the sending unit is bad, replace it.
i think this is all bogus. he also does engine flushes lol.
says the guy who probably buys german "moneypit" cars
zhbvenkhoReload my so called German money pit has 165,000 miles on it an still no major repairs, enjoy your so called "American" car full of cheap imported parts.
This man has no neck. But he know what he's talking about. :)
Why do Americans always complain about gas prices. People in Europe and Asia are paying 2-4 times the price.
Cus there are better roads in Europe, taxes put to use for the people, not supporting an out of control Military here in the U.S.