No I wouldn't vote for Boris ever again. But the problem is I wouldn't vote Labour or libdems either. We need something new, something that really cares for people and not just money and power
@@Dave-bu6bc There's nothing wrong with voting. It's the political parties and Representative Democracy itself, which is where the problem lies. If we could all vote as individuals on all final says in Westminster and change national policy through various referendums throughout the year then we would change things. But we need a single issue party that would allow that to happen and dissolve as soon as it's job was done. Until a party comes along that can make that happen then I will not be voting for one Neo-Liberal establishment party to replace another.
That's exactly as Edwina Curry predicted - she said the most votes would go to 'None of you lot'. Of course, that won't stop the Lib Dems crowing about their great 'victory'.
Poor turnout in By-elections is not unheard of, add in the time of the year, current COVID transmissions and that will also add to the low turnout ....Voter apathy would only play a minimal part ...
@@markwinter54 Is the time of year a factor in yesterday's turnout? 2 years ago the December 2019 general Election saw a UK turnout of 67% - slightly higher than average for GEs.
@@JonathanCheeseman That was a GE not a By-election ...As for the 67% turnout for the GE in 2019, that was because of one thing ......Brexit' ....See what the turnout is at the next GE .!!! .... If I had my way voting in a GE/By-elections would be compulsory as it is in Australia, even if it would lead to more spoilt ballots, so what ...People couldn't then moan at the outcome ...
@@markwinter54 As I said, the '19 turnout was "slightly" higher than average - just 1 or 2%. Maybe Brexit accounted for that 1 or 2% but it remains only 1 or 2%. Compulsory voting is an authoritarian measure I would not support. Freedom means being free to NOT do things, as well as TO do things. For me, forcing people to vote just so you don't have to listen to them moaning is not reason enough to compel people to vote. Besides, if a person votes for party 'X' and they get a party 'X' government, does that mean they have to accept 9without moaning) everything that government does? And if they voted party 'Y' they're still not allowed to moan?
If you don't participate in our democracy, if you don't accept the responsibilities that come with that, then you can't complain about who gets elected.
@@HueyLewisRocks what % of illegal arrivals were returned before you left the eu? I would have voted for brexit, only as a foreigner, I didn't have that option. Countries should govern themselves.
@@johnwade1095 25,700 people crossed the channel this year, 5 had been returned as og the 25th November. We were governing ourselves, and we were at the same time powerufl members of a large and powerful trading bloc. Tell me, now we've left the EU, have they lost all power and influence over us? Reality...
He didn't. Unless he's prepared to disclose his personal medical history and prove me wrong. At the same time he can publicly disclose the results of an antibody test showing he has all the antibodies he should have following all those jabs he's had.
The people are programmed to look at Marxism, but the real issue are the Trotskyites. Trotsky and his entourage had safe travel to Switzerland, where they 'collected', considerable financial support, and continued safely on to Russia, by way of Finland. Alex Salmond is a Trotskyite, and Nicola Sturgeon was his protege. I can't for the life of me recall if Corbyn is a Trotskyite. The names escape me right now, but in the USA a few years back, there were three or four Republicans, who were known to be Trotskyites.
Would still only have given them 1802 votes ....Both are fringe Parties for the Right Wing ...LibDem/Labour/SNP Coalition is the way forward ....Proper policies for the WHOLE of the UK, not just the Tory elite and their Party Donors ....
@@markwinter54 "Fringe Parties for the right wing"? Where do you get this crap from? It doesn't make people right wing because they believe in common sense and have objections to their Country being ruined. I suggest you turn your TV off.
Well that's just fucking stupid, you have no idea what the future will bring, but you people think in such simplistic black and white terms don't you. The real world is more complex than that.
I live in Hull and Labour would win even if they put a block of wood up for election. Hence the City is a backwater where double glazing grants are available for pidgeon lofts and whippet kennels. Hence I haven't voted in 20 years.
Thats pretty bad. Can I ask who you would vote for or would you just not bother voting? I am genuinely interested. I have never voted for anyone or anything.
@@allanlarmour7460 Right now Allan, I fear I'd just not bother - which is mad given I spent years lecturing people on the importance of voting! Maybe out of respect for the process, I'd at least spoil my ballot.
@@misteroz Thanks for responding. I know its a rather personal question but as you'd said you were chairman I guessed its obvious how you have been voting and wouldn't mind the question. I live in N.Ireland so we don't really get any say. I know we have 13 parties here in the North and still I wouldn't vote for any of them as none of them represent anyone here except themselves. Politicians are a despicable people, everyone of them. I have nothing but contempt for every single member of Parliament, even those who refuse to take their sests. They still take the money.
@@allanlarmour7460 Not all, Allan. I can only speak from my own experience, but the politicians I've known generally have good intentions, but are undermined by two major flaws: The first is vanity; the second are the obligations they owe to the people behind the scenes that put them there. Both can prove to be utterly corrosive.
@@misteroz I know I painted with a very broad brush and I usually know better but I am more annoyed with them than usual. Even those standing up to this lunacy know full well that their efforts are pointless and we are being taken in a direction no one ever voted for and its ridiculous that a Tory PM needs the "opposition" support to drive these draconian dictates through Parliament. Things are very very different here. Those supposedly representing the Unionist/ Protestants/ British Citizen's, sold out to the Tories for 1 Billion pounds, no shame. The other side are even worse! LOL. To vote for these people should be a criminal offence!
I think a lot of tactical voting went on in North Shropshire. Former Tory voters decided that the best chance of damaging Boris was to vote for the party most likely to beat the Conservatives. Political commentators are saying that it's clear Tory voters didn't stay at home yesterday, they actively went out and voted LibDem. Which is very mixed news for Tory MPs, because what it shows yet again is that old 'loyalties' can no longer be taken for granted. In my opinion this result shows voters responding to an out-of-touch and disdainful political class.
Yeah I wouldn't vote for that shower... Farage isn't a real leader, he's a political heckler who can only break things, he freely admitted that he didn't even know what was in the UKIP manifesto, had never read it... he's been soundly rejected by the British public SEVEN times... we don't want him, he's a vile scumbag conman who conned Reform party donors and candidates out of £Millions.
@@HueyLewisRocks Nice to see you putting your ignorance on full display again. Farage has nothing to do with The Reform Party. He bailed on them,as he did with the Brexit Party and UKIP.
@@davidbarlow350 Farage started the Reform party... then he conned people out of £Millions. these are true facts. THEN he bailed on them. Nothing I said was false.
Gary, they couldn't even beat the Greens at Shropshire. Watch Richard Tice today on Mike Graham's show. He wasn't even bothered they lost so badly. They don't want to win. The only way you can change politics is through a single issue political party who will give us the right to vote on all final says in Westminster and change national policy via referendums. We can only change Britain through as individuals through the nation state.
I voted for Brexit, to stop illegal immigration and for effective border control, strong action on criminals and knife wielding thugs, for keeping the government out of my pocket, immediate deportation of foreign criminals, strong action on paedophile grooming gangs and their socialist local government enablers. I voted for a Conservative government. If that were a tick list it wouldn’t be worth getting my pen out.
@@fogellmclovin6278 not sure which part you're happy about. Paedophiles being largley allowed to get away with it? Inaction on border control? Rising crime?
He did not nearly die at all, he was in ICU as a precaution and nothing more! He remained conscious throughout and was only in Hospital for a week ... Hardly on deaths door
Jo Strange that we didn't get any pictures of him in hospital or leaving either. You would have thought a media junkie like Johnson would have made the most of his "being just like the plebs" moment? Also i remember watching the live cameras outside the hospital and there was absolutely no traffic whatsoever,no visiting cars,no people on foot,nothing. It was a publicity stunt and the man's a complete fraud.
probaly whisked off to some secret location and put through a ritual that terrorised him I got the feeling that something similar happened to george osborn just after brexit when he went awol for afew days than eventually showed up in parliament looking like he was dragged through a hedge backwards and about to throw up or collapse as if he had a terrible hangover
@@HueyLewisRocks There was no conceivable way Brexit would happen otherwise. A vote for anyone except Conservative 2 years ago would have been either a wasted vote (for a minor party with zero chance of government) or a vote against democracy, i.e. a vote against the referendum result. Voting Conservative really was the least shitty option. The moment we finally managed to leave the EU (or granted, mostly leave) was the moment Johnson should have been booted out.
People voted for Boris in the last election based on his policies. We did not vote for a man to be persuaded by his wife's ideologies in return for Boris getting his leg over!
Only by a tiny number. Reform would have just about beaten the Greens by 67 votes if the UKIP vote had joined them. They would nowhere near beating Labour, never mind the Tories or Lib Dems.
Well, don't donate any money, the £Millions Farage scammed out of donors and candidates never resurfaced and he didn't have to answer to membership because... the Reform party has no members... funny that. He's nothing but a political heckler, rejected seven times, couldn't lead a sing song let alone a country. Wake up.
Well, don't donate any money, the £Millions Farage scammed out of donors and candidates never resurfaced and he didn't have to answer to membership because... the Reform party has no members... funny that. And Farage is no leader, he's just a political heckler.
@@manoo422 Bullshit, Leave was Cummings, johsnon, Banks and several others... if you think that was Farage single handed then you're just being conned by him, because he is a conman you know.
@@HueyLewisRocks I think you are being a bit unfair there. If you asked the average person on the street on who was making the arguments during the 2016 referendum then Farage's name would have come up time and time again. You hardly saw Cummings, Johnson and Banks debating anyone on the television or on the radio. It was Farage's face that showed up every time.
I'm surprised any Leave or Tory voter would hold their nose and vote for the Lib Dems after Brexit. The Reform Party was on the ballot and they simply ignored them.
The Reform Party would have brought real change and opened people's eyes to the fact the three Party system could be challenged. People of Shropshire you did us no favours in voting in part of the coalition government that has just been a nodding donkey to Johnson and his cronies.
Exactly. You make the real point. An alternative was there and yet the Tory and Leaver voters voted Lib Dems. Then the people wonder why they can't change things.
I wouldn't pin too many hopes on Reform at the recent Bexley by election Reform got 1432 votes and yesterday Reform got 1427 votes. At Bexley there are almost 65,000 registered voters and N Shropshire over 80,000 registered voters. If the public are so sick of the Tories and Labour and want change shouldn't they be voting for Reform in big numbers?.
@@ancietman Sadly the public have proven their stupidity over the past two years, Maybe a few will now start waking up to the fact we have a one Party system and voting for a main Party will guarantee the crap they have planned for us. The smaller Parties need to get together and stop splitting the vote and handing over power to our oppressors.
Not remotely. Starmer is a highly trained, intelligent well prepared logical individual, Johnson is a bullshitting, lying cheating third rate chancer who always lets you down.
@@HueyLewisRocks Starmer? Highly trained? Intelligent? He's got less support than what Corbyn had! He hasn't opposed anything of significance for either small businesses or the average working person. Get over yourself. Labour are dead.
I would only vote for MP that voted against vaccine passport regardless of party, anyone from Steve Baker to Jeremy Corbyn, everyone else can go to hell. I woud votes for any candidate that look like they can remove those who voted for it, but need to check each candidate regardless of party. LibDems did best (10 out 12) but Reform party and Farage look the best.
Well the option for Reform was there, yet the Leave and Tory voters flocked to the Lib Dems who pretty much stabbed democracy in the back. People have short memories.
@@chrisdavie8163 Its still a victory, the voters made the government pay and only fear for their jobs will stop them now. This is going to be a war of attrition, to stop what is coming, its only going to get worse before we win.
I've already written to my MP and told him that as a lifelong Tory voter he's lost my vote as long as Boris is running the show and the policies that I voted for are not implemented, particularly secure borders, effective policing and sensible environmental polices. His response was that he understood my frustration and that there are conversations being had behind closed doors about the direction of the party but that by not retaining him as my local MP then it's likely that the Lib Dems would win the seat. I think as a country we need a completely new political approach. None of the major parties genuinely represent ordinary people anymore. They serve the wealthy, those on benefits and illegal immigrants. I'd love to see a complete revolution of the political system but I just don't hink enough people have either sufficient interest in politics or the courage of their convictions to vote outside of the main 3 parties. I watched some clips of Trigger Happy TV the other day, all filmed in London in the early 2000's. The change in our capital city since then is shocking and if you project that forward another 20 years I absolutely dread to think what state this country will be by then with the current political elite still running the show.
Nigel needs to rally the 3 'alternative' parties. That is UKIP, Reform and Reclaim. If these 3 political parties cannot find common ground under One banner, then they will go nowhere. If they are finding this difficult to understand then we are finished as a democracy.🙃🙃
It's not going to happen. Different money from different donors. Different political interests. Political greed. Ego. Until we can vote on Westminster issues ourselves, it's not worth voting for any political party, until a single issue party gives us that right.
Well, don't donate any money, the £Millions Farage scammed out of donors and candidates never resurfaced and he didn't have to answer to membership because... the Reform party has no members... funny that.
@@HueyLewisRocks Didn't the electoral commission raid the Brexit Party offices in 2019 and found everything was in order?. Much like all the talk of Aaron Banks and the Russians after an expensive investigation nothing found.
@@ancietman I was talking about the Reform party. In that instance Farage technically didn't do anything legally wrong, he simply didn't refund all those application fees after he decided not to field any candidates, and political donations are donations... but all that money vanished and the Reform party fielded no candidates. And he didn't have to explain to members where it all went, because the Reform party has no members... Don't be so gullible. He's a weasel. Quaffing pints, trying to pass himself off as a common bloke, but he comes from a rich famiy, was privately educated and worked in the ctiy as a trader.
Are you sure that the token resistance wasn’t just tactical? They couldn’t all vote for this. I wouldn’t trust any of the mainstream political classes!
My MP is a second time Conservative. He told me two things: that the extortionate spending may not be Thatcherite but can be Tory, and that I should not write to him again as he would have me arrested, he then sent me a Cease & Desist Oder by recorded mail. ( I sent him an email questioning the behaviour of the party, calling it in Conservative and stating I felt that the party were behaving like new Nazis. He told me I was scaring his staff, goodness me what have they and SAGE been doing to the nation, as admitted by Neil Ferguson?!). This is the current status of the Tory party. Disgraceful. We should be sending them to France, in rubber dinghies.
@@another1498 well at least your noncey sounding tory replies. Ours (L truss) doesnt bother any more. Too busy plotting I expect, bigger fish to fry Back in 2019 (I abstained totally-red tory/blue socialist/yellow defeatist/green alarmist??waste of time bothering), and everyone was like WOOHOO borris is GREAT, I said when push comes to shove he'll throw everyone including the fishermen under the bus, and only be interested in obliging the rich powerful tory donor club and his eton mates in the city, and thats pretty much what has happened. All those parties are fully committed to the trans national open borders NWO agenda
Don’t forget that a Lib Dem vote is most certainly a return to full EU membership. “We aim to construct a ‘roadmap to rejoin’ that ultimately convinces the electorate that membership of the EU is in the UK’s best interests” This quote is taken from the Lib Dems front page on UK-EU relations.
@Tea n Biscuits Forever wouldn't vote Labour if Jimmy Saville was the tory leader. You can protest vote without voting for those clowns. You'd make Labour think they are doing something right if you vote for them 👍
Always voted Tory. But I will not be doing so again. Massive let down with "protecting our borders" manifesto pledge. More than ever coming in.The only thing that stops them is the weather.
I cannot vote for any of the three main parties, in my opinion none represent the true views of the British people. If there is no other party, such as the The Reform Party in my voting area to vote for, i would spoil the ballot paper in protest.
Not very conservative but they do like a good party, You wouldn't have wanted Boris in charge of WW2 that's for sure, He is lucky he has no opposition currently, it's quite the contrary, Labour love what he's doing, they just want a bit more a bit sooner, but on the whole they are with Boris all the way.
I have voted Tory all my life but the Jolly Green Boris is not a Tory but a GreenCon I will never vote Tory while Boris or should I say Carrie and her friends are the real PM
May as well vote Monster Raving Loony. They probably have more sensible policies than the Tories. As for Brexit, didn't seem to make much difference to our border security which we thought it would.
Because brexit was never supposed to improve anything at all. We told you they were lying to you in 2016 and 2019 yet you ignored us. It's good to see you are finally realising that brexit means absolutely nothing to do with what they said, welcome back my friend.
You fell for the Lord High Wizard of Brexit' garbage over the borders, more fool you ....Leaving the EU got rid of the Dublin Convention, which under certain circumstances would have allowed you to return Refugees to the Continent, but he didn't tell you that ....You reap what you sow ....
There is no way on Earth you could ever convince any of us brexit voters that the EU was our best bet, it's done zilch for ordinary people. I'm m gration was part of the concerns as we wanted control but now they've decided to allow rampant unc ont rolled 1llefal immigr tion, don't conflate the two.
@@maccagrabme You are incorrect, those crossing the channel are claiming Refugee status, they only become migrants if their Refugee status is denied by the HO after questioning ...
Sorry his the prime minister. So here’s the question. If you took Boris and his socialist conservative left and put the with labour, and you put the rest of the traditional conservatives plus the reform party. Who would win
My MP is Labours Clive Lewis. The man behind the awful image (flaming cross people) on Twitter. My area is obviously staunch Labour and extremely woke. I wouldn’t vote Tory (which I have for over 40 years) again, not while BJ is in charge.
Starmer no way he is just as you say an empty shell.Never stood up for our rights but agreed with Boris on everything.As for some of his party so racist.
Boris has spent the oil of his majority on pursuing a policy of zero covid and zero C02, and now that the bottle is empty he has no oil to lighten his lamp so walks in inky darkness, not knowing where he is going or what stands before him. What a waste!
Rob Butler is my local mp, he has been absolutely terrible. I would never vote for him again. I'll vote for whoever is pro freedom and is against mandatory anything.
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No I wouldn't vote for Boris ever again. But the problem is I wouldn't vote Labour or libdems either. We need something new, something that really cares for people and not just money and power
Something other than voting, because voting always leads to the same place.
Exactly we need new blood not the same old party’s the Liberal Democrat are far from liberal wouldn’t vote for them if my life depended on it.
Have a look at the Reform and SDP websites.
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@@Dave-bu6bc There's nothing wrong with voting. It's the political parties and Representative Democracy itself, which is where the problem lies. If we could all vote as individuals on all final says in Westminster and change national policy through various referendums throughout the year then we would change things. But we need a single issue party that would allow that to happen and dissolve as soon as it's job was done. Until a party comes along that can make that happen then I will not be voting for one Neo-Liberal establishment party to replace another.
Turnout was just 43% Most of the electorate don't have faith in any of the clowns presented as candidates - whatever flavour.
That's exactly as Edwina Curry predicted - she said the most votes would go to 'None of you lot'.
Of course, that won't stop the Lib Dems crowing about their great 'victory'.
Poor turnout in By-elections is not unheard of, add in the time of the year, current COVID transmissions and that will also add to the low turnout ....Voter apathy would only play a minimal part ...
@@markwinter54 Is the time of year a factor in yesterday's turnout? 2 years ago the December 2019 general Election saw a UK turnout of 67% - slightly higher than average for GEs.
@@JonathanCheeseman That was a GE not a By-election ...As for the 67% turnout for the GE in 2019, that was because of one thing ......Brexit' ....See what the turnout is at the next GE .!!! .... If I had my way voting in a GE/By-elections would be compulsory as it is in Australia, even if it would lead to more spoilt ballots, so what ...People couldn't then moan at the outcome ...
@@markwinter54 As I said, the '19 turnout was "slightly" higher than average - just 1 or 2%. Maybe Brexit accounted for that 1 or 2% but it remains only 1 or 2%.
Compulsory voting is an authoritarian measure I would not support. Freedom means being free to NOT do things, as well as TO do things. For me, forcing people to vote just so you don't have to listen to them moaning is not reason enough to compel people to vote. Besides, if a person votes for party 'X' and they get a party 'X' government, does that mean they have to accept 9without moaning) everything that government does? And if they voted party 'Y' they're still not allowed to moan?
The conservatives need to introduce a policy called 'no vaccine passports', then I will vote for the first time ever.
If you don't participate in our democracy, if you don't accept the responsibilities that come with that, then you can't complain about who gets elected.
They already said that, then reneged on that promise
They are finished, let's all move on and lend our vote to a party that actually cares about us and the country. Disgusted with this lot.
Why, they woukd only change their mind once in power , just like they have do so now.
@@HueyLewisRocks What if you do participate and the policies you voted for are ignored and the opposite imposed!
Whoever gets tough on immigrants gets my vote. And Boris didn’t “nearly die” at all. Don’t buy that tripe.
Yeah, but they told him he nearly did. And he believed them and has believed all the BS they have fed him since.
I feel the same way. Whichever party plans to deal with this ridiculous immigration situation gets my vote too.
spot on
Who knew? Repressing everything except actual crime, fiscal incompetence, and porous borders, are unpopular.
Well, shouldn't have voted for Brexit then should you, because that's how we lost all our Return agreements and any power we had over France.
@@HueyLewisRocks what % of illegal arrivals were returned before you left the eu?
I would have voted for brexit, only as a foreigner, I didn't have that option.
Countries should govern themselves.
spot on.
@@johnwade1095 25,700 people crossed the channel this year, 5 had been returned as og the 25th November. We were governing ourselves, and we were at the same time powerufl members of a large and powerful trading bloc. Tell me, now we've left the EU, have they lost all power and influence over us? Reality...
@@HueyLewisRocks so, you have no answer. If you're going to make claims, youd best be prepared to back them up.
A vote for Boris is really a vote for Carrie, she is the one calling the shots.
No she isn't- Klaus Schwab/WEF amongst others are.
Absolutely correct, and last time I checked - she hasn't stood for election.
I'm starting to think this too. Why else does Bojo look like a re-incarnation of Greta Thunberg 2.0
That's why all the other Conservative members have been told not to talk a bout Carrie in any way!!!!
She has him by the bollocks : she is holding the brains …. Located below the belt …..
Carrie has turned him into a Trotskyite and Marxist. What happened to him after he nearly died? Has he had a personality swap?
He was never on deaths door ever .... Not sure why he said that
He didn't. Unless he's prepared to disclose his personal medical history and prove me wrong. At the same time he can publicly disclose the results of an antibody test showing he has all the antibodies he should have following all those jabs he's had.
The people are programmed to look at Marxism, but the real issue are the Trotskyites. Trotsky and his entourage had safe travel to Switzerland, where they 'collected', considerable financial support, and continued safely on to Russia, by way of Finland. Alex Salmond is a Trotskyite, and Nicola Sturgeon was his protege.
I can't for the life of me recall if Corbyn is a Trotskyite. The names escape me right now, but in the USA a few years back, there were three or four Republicans, who were known to be Trotskyites.
Has he nationalised rail, energy etc and put a tax increase on the rich?
The party was already heading that way
I will not vote Tory or Labour
Me too but i would never vote for the libdums or watermelons
You would have to be insane.
Reclaim would be best to join forces with Reform.
Would still only have given them 1802 votes ....Both are fringe Parties for the Right Wing ...LibDem/Labour/SNP Coalition is the way forward ....Proper policies for the WHOLE of the UK, not just the Tory elite and their Party Donors ....
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"Fringe Parties for the right wing"?
Where do you get this crap from?
It doesn't make people right wing because they believe in common sense and have objections to their Country being ruined.
I suggest you turn your TV off.
@@davidbarlow350 This dude just seriously suggested a Labour Lib Dem & SNP alliance?! Give me a break! 🤣
@@davidbarlow350 You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine ...TTFN
Then Reclaim and Reform could join forces and get a whole 20 votes :) :)
I will never vote conservative ever again
Well that's just fucking stupid, you have no idea what the future will bring, but you people think in such simplistic black and white terms don't you. The real world is more complex than that.
@@HueyLewisRocks I think he's sensible, the tories are actively trying to destroy this country and people are waking up.
@@HueyLewisRocks Just by the language you use you definitely shouldn't be a Tory
@@fogellmclovin6278 You can't say 'never again'... life isn't that simplistic.
@@CuntyMcGinty I'm not...
I wouldn’t vote for Tories, Labour or Lib Dems! I would vote for Reform or ReclaimUK give them a chance.
I agree....Im voting Reform or Reclaim...but they want to join together then they wont have to split the vote.
@@lindaholland4896 Yes very true!
I live in Hull and Labour would win even if they put a block of wood up for election. Hence the City is a backwater where double glazing grants are available for pidgeon lofts and whippet kennels. Hence I haven't voted in 20 years.
Leave.
Agree..I went to hull once..your a celebrity if you have teeth.
@@johnwade1095 Too late, I'm 70. But you are correct, I should have left years ago but I had too many friends and family here.
@@theurg4504 LOL. Luckily I still have most of mine.
The SDP could be a good alternative for you.
If Boris stopped immigration, all the restrictions and scrapped all the green rubbish I just might vote Tory.
I'm a former local party chairman, and I wouldn't vote Tory right now.
Thats pretty bad. Can I ask who you would vote for or would you just not bother voting? I am genuinely interested. I have never voted for anyone or anything.
@@allanlarmour7460 Right now Allan, I fear I'd just not bother - which is mad given I spent years lecturing people on the importance of voting! Maybe out of respect for the process, I'd at least spoil my ballot.
@@misteroz Thanks for responding. I know its a rather personal question but as you'd said you were chairman I guessed its obvious how you have been voting and wouldn't mind the question.
I live in N.Ireland so we don't really get any say. I know we have 13 parties here in the North and still I wouldn't vote for any of them as none of them represent anyone here except themselves. Politicians are a despicable people, everyone of them. I have nothing but contempt for every single member of Parliament, even those who refuse to take their sests. They still take the money.
@@allanlarmour7460 Not all, Allan.
I can only speak from my own experience, but the politicians I've known generally have good intentions, but are undermined by two major flaws: The first is vanity; the second are the obligations they owe to the people behind the scenes that put them there. Both can prove to be utterly corrosive.
@@misteroz I know I painted with a very broad brush and I usually know better but I am more annoyed with them than usual. Even those standing up to this lunacy know full well that their efforts are pointless and we are being taken in a direction no one ever voted for and its ridiculous that a Tory PM needs the "opposition" support to drive these draconian dictates through Parliament.
Things are very very different here. Those supposedly representing the Unionist/ Protestants/ British Citizen's, sold out to the Tories for 1 Billion pounds, no shame.
The other side are even worse!
LOL.
To vote for these people should be a criminal offence!
I think a lot of tactical voting went on in North Shropshire. Former Tory voters decided that the best chance of damaging Boris was to vote for the party most likely to beat the Conservatives. Political commentators are saying that it's clear Tory voters didn't stay at home yesterday, they actively went out and voted LibDem. Which is very mixed news for Tory MPs, because what it shows yet again is that old 'loyalties' can no longer be taken for granted. In my opinion this result shows voters responding to an out-of-touch and disdainful political class.
Not a chance, Reform next time.
Yeah I wouldn't vote for that shower... Farage isn't a real leader, he's a political heckler who can only break things, he freely admitted that he didn't even know what was in the UKIP manifesto, had never read it... he's been soundly rejected by the British public SEVEN times... we don't want him, he's a vile scumbag conman who conned Reform party donors and candidates out of £Millions.
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Nice to see you putting your ignorance on full display again.
Farage has nothing to do with The Reform Party.
He bailed on them,as he did with the Brexit Party and UKIP.
@@davidbarlow350 Farage started the Reform party... then he conned people out of £Millions. these are true facts. THEN he bailed on them. Nothing I said was false.
Gary, they couldn't even beat the Greens at Shropshire. Watch Richard Tice today on Mike Graham's show. He wasn't even bothered they lost so badly. They don't want to win. The only way you can change politics is through a single issue political party who will give us the right to vote on all final says in Westminster and change national policy via referendums. We can only change Britain through as individuals through the nation state.
@@chrisdavie8163 I agree Chris, but doesn’t leave a lot of options
I voted for Brexit, to stop illegal immigration and for effective border control, strong action on criminals and knife wielding thugs, for keeping the government out of my pocket, immediate deportation of foreign criminals, strong action on paedophile grooming gangs and their socialist local government enablers. I voted for a Conservative government. If that were a tick list it wouldn’t be worth getting my pen out.
And that makes me very very happy
@@fogellmclovin6278 not sure which part you're happy about. Paedophiles being largley allowed to get away with it? Inaction on border control? Rising crime?
@@derekcooper1831 wow, so Brexit didn’t deliver after all. Who would have thought!
Brexit is a disaster
He did not nearly die at all, he was in ICU as a precaution and nothing more! He remained conscious throughout and was only in Hospital for a week ... Hardly on deaths door
He was acting.
Jo
Strange that we didn't get any pictures of him in hospital or leaving either.
You would have thought a media junkie like Johnson would have made the most of his "being just like the plebs" moment?
Also i remember watching the live cameras outside the hospital and there was absolutely no traffic whatsoever,no visiting cars,no people on foot,nothing.
It was a publicity stunt and the man's a complete fraud.
probaly whisked off to some secret location and put through a ritual that terrorised him
I got the feeling that something similar happened to george osborn just after brexit when he went awol for afew days than eventually showed up in parliament looking like he was dragged through a hedge backwards and about to throw up or collapse as if he had a terrible hangover
Who are you to say he didn't nearly die. Were you his doctor.
I've voted for them all my life. No way will I vote for them next time.
Why did you vote for Johnson at all, the information about what he's really like was there to be read.
Brexit I guess, that's why I voted, didn't want to but had no choice unfortunately.
@@HueyLewisRocks There was no conceivable way Brexit would happen otherwise.
A vote for anyone except Conservative 2 years ago would have been either a wasted vote (for a minor party with zero chance of government) or a vote against democracy, i.e. a vote against the referendum result.
Voting Conservative really was the least shitty option.
The moment we finally managed to leave the EU (or granted, mostly leave) was the moment Johnson should have been booted out.
same
I didn't vote Conservative in 2019. I voted for the Reform Party. I will never vote for Lib Dem, Conservative or Labour ever again.
Just as well vote for an unending migraine; the conflict of interest is spectacular. No excuses for the prime minister.
People voted for Boris in the last election based on his policies. We did not vote for a man to be persuaded by his wife's ideologies in return for Boris getting his leg over!
I’ll vote Conservative again when I think they’re actually Conservative. Until then no chance.
No chance then, go reform.
Did Bojo nearly die? More lies.
That's a dam good question.
Glad someone brought that up. I don't even believe he was in hospital. He came out fatter than he went in....alledgedly.
Nope, not sure why he is peddling that old mantra .... Publicity stunt, he was in and out within a week
He mustn't have been that poorly if he was bonking his missus to have another child.
Reform party Richard Tice AND Nigel Farage
it shows that UKIP and Reclaim are splitting the Reform UK vote.
Agreed. This just tells me that the three 'alternative' parties can't even find common ground. Pathetic.
Well it would be nice then if Tice got off his pedestal and made a deal. Fox has already said he'd be happy to cooperate.
Good, they're both a shower of incompetent hatemongers completely unfit to lead anything.
Only by a tiny number. Reform would have just about beaten the Greens by 67 votes if the UKIP vote had joined them. They would nowhere near beating Labour, never mind the Tories or Lib Dems.
Would it really matter?. At N Shropshire yesterday Reform got 1427 votes UKIP 378. The Lib Dem winner got 17,957 votes.
No I would vote for Nigel farage
Me too.
Well, don't donate any money, the £Millions Farage scammed out of donors and candidates never resurfaced and he didn't have to answer to membership because... the Reform party has no members... funny that. He's nothing but a political heckler, rejected seven times, couldn't lead a sing song let alone a country. Wake up.
@@rogerwilson6367 7 elections and he couldn't win one!
@@HueyLewisRocks I think asfar as N farage is concerned, methink you doth protest too much. Either you are scared of him or secretly admire him
Vote *REFORMUK* thats the only choice people should now make.
Well, don't donate any money, the £Millions Farage scammed out of donors and candidates never resurfaced and he didn't have to answer to membership because... the Reform party has no members... funny that. And Farage is no leader, he's just a political heckler.
@@HueyLewisRocks Who single handedly extract us out of EUSSR.
@@manoo422 Bullshit, Leave was Cummings, johsnon, Banks and several others... if you think that was Farage single handed then you're just being conned by him, because he is a conman you know.
@@HueyLewisRocks I think you are being a bit unfair there. If you asked the average person on the street on who was making the arguments during the 2016 referendum then Farage's name would have come up time and time again. You hardly saw Cummings, Johnson and Banks debating anyone on the television or on the radio. It was Farage's face that showed up every time.
80,000 in N Shropshire registered to vote just 1427 voted Reform.
I'd never vote for a Party that Completely goes against the Brexit Referendum and failed to respect the will of the people
Agreed, people sure do have short memories...
Not Liberal.
Not Democratic.
But at least they have taken a stand against lies right?
British politics right now is beyond any level of parody.
I'm surprised any Leave or Tory voter would hold their nose and vote for the Lib Dems after Brexit. The Reform Party was on the ballot and they simply ignored them.
Lib Dems lie like the best of them.🤣
@@chrisdavie8163
Don't get it either.
The Reform Party would have brought real change and opened people's eyes to the fact the three Party system could be challenged.
People of Shropshire you did us no favours in voting in part of the coalition government that has just been a nodding donkey to Johnson and his cronies.
Exactly. You make the real point. An alternative was there and yet the Tory and Leaver voters voted Lib Dems. Then the people wonder why they can't change things.
I wouldn't pin too many hopes on Reform at the recent Bexley by election Reform got 1432 votes and yesterday Reform got 1427 votes. At Bexley there are almost 65,000 registered voters and N Shropshire over 80,000 registered voters. If the public are so sick of the Tories and Labour and want change shouldn't they be voting for Reform in big numbers?.
@@ancietman
Sadly the public have proven their stupidity over the past two years,
Maybe a few will now start waking up to the fact we have a one Party system and voting for a main Party will guarantee the crap they have planned for us.
The smaller Parties need to get together and stop splitting the vote and handing over power to our oppressors.
Boris and Starmer... different cheek... same arse.
Not remotely. Starmer is a highly trained, intelligent well prepared logical individual, Johnson is a bullshitting, lying cheating third rate chancer who always lets you down.
@@HueyLewisRocks Starmer? Highly trained? Intelligent? He's got less support than what Corbyn had! He hasn't opposed anything of significance for either small businesses or the average working person. Get over yourself. Labour are dead.
North Shropshire did what needed to be done, good on them I say.
I would only vote for MP that voted against vaccine passport regardless of party, anyone from Steve Baker to Jeremy Corbyn, everyone else can go to hell. I woud votes for any candidate that look like they can remove those who voted for it, but need to check each candidate regardless of party.
LibDems did best (10 out 12) but Reform party and Farage look the best.
Well the option for Reform was there, yet the Leave and Tory voters flocked to the Lib Dems who pretty much stabbed democracy in the back. People have short memories.
@@chrisdavie8163 Its still a victory, the voters made the government pay and only fear for their jobs will stop them now. This is going to be a war of attrition, to stop what is coming, its only going to get worse before we win.
I've already written to my MP and told him that as a lifelong Tory voter he's lost my vote as long as Boris is running the show and the policies that I voted for are not implemented, particularly secure borders, effective policing and sensible environmental polices. His response was that he understood my frustration and that there are conversations being had behind closed doors about the direction of the party but that by not retaining him as my local MP then it's likely that the Lib Dems would win the seat. I think as a country we need a completely new political approach. None of the major parties genuinely represent ordinary people anymore. They serve the wealthy, those on benefits and illegal immigrants. I'd love to see a complete revolution of the political system but I just don't hink enough people have either sufficient interest in politics or the courage of their convictions to vote outside of the main 3 parties. I watched some clips of Trigger Happy TV the other day, all filmed in London in the early 2000's. The change in our capital city since then is shocking and if you project that forward another 20 years I absolutely dread to think what state this country will be by then with the current political elite still running the show.
He's managed to find the strength to knock out a couple of kids in the last couple of years. Time to get rid of the clown.
Vote Tory? Never. Vote Lib Dem? Never, never. Vote Labour? Never, never, never.
Nigel needs to rally the 3 'alternative' parties. That is UKIP, Reform and Reclaim. If these 3 political parties cannot find common ground under One banner, then they will go nowhere. If they are finding this difficult to understand then we are finished as a democracy.🙃🙃
Perfectly summed up.
Split the right wing vote? That's not going to help.
It's not going to happen. Different money from different donors. Different political interests. Political greed. Ego.
Until we can vote on Westminster issues ourselves, it's not worth voting for any political party, until a single issue party gives us that right.
@vanhooler He gets money and then clears off to the next party
@@chrisdavie8163 This is all I can put it down to.
No I wouldn't vote for them. How can they introduce stuff that wasn't in their manifesto?
Reform.
I've been a Conservative voter for over 30+ years and as far as I'm concerned Boris and his Government can all *ucking well drop *ead !
Labour are totally unelectable.
If there was an election I would vote Reform, had enough of the main parties now
Well, don't donate any money, the £Millions Farage scammed out of donors and candidates never resurfaced and he didn't have to answer to membership because... the Reform party has no members... funny that.
@@HueyLewisRocks Didn't the electoral commission raid the Brexit Party offices in 2019 and found everything was in order?. Much like all the talk of Aaron Banks and the Russians after an expensive investigation nothing found.
@@ancietman I was talking about the Reform party. In that instance Farage technically didn't do anything legally wrong, he simply didn't refund all those application fees after he decided not to field any candidates, and political donations are donations... but all that money vanished and the Reform party fielded no candidates. And he didn't have to explain to members where it all went, because the Reform party has no members...
Don't be so gullible. He's a weasel. Quaffing pints, trying to pass himself off as a common bloke, but he comes from a rich famiy, was privately educated and worked in the ctiy as a trader.
Give Desmond Swaine Boris's job
Definitely one of the better ones in that cesspit.
Asking someone to choose from labour or conservative is like asking them if they prefer cancer or a brain tumour
Yet another nail in the Tory coffin! I know it is hard to believe just now but maybe there is some justice in this world.
Johnson's contempt for the electorate is clear for all to see. My anger is such, I'd vote for Corbyn before I'd give Johnson my vote.
My MP voted against Boris. She is a Tory first timer, which shows a lot of guts... ATM she still deserves my vote.
Are you sure that the token resistance wasn’t just tactical? They couldn’t all vote for this. I wouldn’t trust any of the mainstream political classes!
My MP is a second time Conservative. He told me two things: that the extortionate spending may not be Thatcherite but can be Tory, and that I should not write to him again as he would have me arrested, he then sent me a Cease & Desist Oder by recorded mail. ( I sent him an email questioning the behaviour of the party, calling it in Conservative and stating I felt that the party were behaving like new Nazis. He told me I was scaring his staff, goodness me what have they and SAGE been doing to the nation, as admitted by Neil Ferguson?!). This is the current status of the Tory party. Disgraceful. We should be sending them to France, in rubber dinghies.
@@another1498 well at least your noncey sounding tory replies. Ours (L truss) doesnt bother any more. Too busy plotting I expect, bigger fish to fry
Back in 2019 (I abstained totally-red tory/blue socialist/yellow defeatist/green alarmist??waste of time bothering), and everyone was like WOOHOO borris is GREAT, I said when push comes to shove he'll throw everyone including the fishermen under the bus, and only be interested in obliging the rich powerful tory donor club and his eton mates in the city, and thats pretty much what has happened. All those parties are fully committed to the trans national open borders NWO agenda
@@GOLDSMITHEXILE I know, ashamed to say voted Boris , got Corbin heavy.
The only way i would vote Tory is if they had a leader who cared about this country. With Doris at the helm… NO.
Boris has been mortality wounded.
I don't think there is any coming back from this.
No leader got it right cos they’re on the take
I will never vote tory again until this criminal LOT are deposed !!!!
Reform UK is the best.
Labour NOPE Conservative NOPE Lib Dems NOPE....😫😫😫😫😫🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Dont think many will vote for any of these clowns next election
All boris had to do was follow the science! and treat the public like real people and explain the REAL science not his science
Johnson and his cabinet carrie and whitty need to go now
I'm a former tory and no I won't vote tory because its not tory anymore
I've always voted Tory. I never will again.
I live where our MP needs a map to find his way here !!!
I wouldnt vote tory, even if my life depended on it...
No way will I vote for the Tories again and I have voted the Tories all my life.
Don’t forget that a Lib Dem vote is most certainly a return to full EU membership.
“We aim to construct a ‘roadmap to rejoin’ that ultimately convinces the electorate that membership of the EU is in the UK’s best interests”
This quote is taken from the Lib Dems front page on UK-EU relations.
I'd rejoin tomorrow if I had the chance. Brexit has been an unmitigated failure.
From what I've seen Doris is a liberal,my bet is he'll defect in a year's time.
@@katy.2596 You've not been watching properly.
So Low taxes , tight borders , Leveling up not happening. I know, il vote Lib Dem.
@Tea n Biscuits Forever wouldn't vote Labour if Jimmy Saville was the tory leader. You can protest vote without voting for those clowns. You'd make Labour think they are doing something right if you vote for them 👍
I wouldn't vote for Con man Boris & his very crooked colleagues if you offered me a million pound in cash..
Starmer...a very sinister empty suit...
This is the PM who told us that we, the voters are in charge, not the government. Yet he turned into a dictator.
Always voted Tory. But I will not be doing so again. Massive let down with "protecting our borders" manifesto pledge. More than ever coming in.The only thing that stops them is the weather.
He didn’t nearly die, it was an act
Never vote liblab but won't vote Tory again. Reclaim and reform need to join forces and get Nigel farage on board.
I cannot vote for any of the three main parties, in my opinion none represent the true views of the British people. If there is no other party, such as the The Reform Party in my voting area to vote for, i would spoil the ballot paper in protest.
Join forces and call it Reform and Reclaim to not split the votes
The Conservative party is no longer Conservative, I have no one to vote for.
Absolutely spot on. I would love to vote for a genuinely conservative party - but this isn't one.
I won't vote for LIb dem, Tory or Labour, SNP, none of them. I'd vote independent, the ones who don't want to see mandatory vaccines and passports.
Not very conservative but they do like a good party, You wouldn't have wanted Boris in charge of WW2 that's for sure, He is lucky he has no opposition currently, it's quite the contrary, Labour love what he's doing, they just want a bit more a bit sooner, but on the whole they are with Boris all the way.
Labour are lusting after the power Doris is wielding.. They can't wait to have a play with it.
I have voted Tory all my life but the Jolly Green Boris is not a Tory but a GreenCon
I will never vote Tory while Boris or should I say Carrie and her friends are the real PM
Boris must go ,he is useless and soft
Rip Doris
No I bloody wouldn't and definitely not labour. Their currupted
Ill never vote for any of the 3 main partys ..reclaim uk..
It's game over, people are done with this political nonsense.
It's not what Boris has done .......... it is what he HASN'T done!!!!!!!!
May as well vote Monster Raving Loony. They probably have more sensible policies than the Tories. As for Brexit, didn't seem to make much difference to our border security which we thought it would.
They have actually got better Policies than Kim Jong Boris..
Because brexit was never supposed to improve anything at all. We told you they were lying to you in 2016 and 2019 yet you ignored us. It's good to see you are finally realising that brexit means absolutely nothing to do with what they said, welcome back my friend.
You fell for the Lord High Wizard of Brexit' garbage over the borders, more fool you ....Leaving the EU got rid of the Dublin Convention, which under certain circumstances would have allowed you to return Refugees to the Continent, but he didn't tell you that ....You reap what you sow ....
There is no way on Earth you could ever convince any of us brexit voters that the EU was our best bet, it's done zilch for ordinary people. I'm m gration was part of the concerns as we wanted control but now they've decided to allow rampant unc ont rolled 1llefal immigr tion, don't conflate the two.
@@maccagrabme You are incorrect, those crossing the channel are claiming Refugee status, they only become migrants if their Refugee status is denied by the HO after questioning ...
seriously why would anyone vote for any of the 3 main parties
Sorry his the prime minister. So here’s the question. If you took Boris and his socialist conservative left and put the with labour, and you put the rest of the traditional conservatives plus the reform party. Who would win
My MP is Labours Clive Lewis. The man behind the awful image (flaming cross people) on Twitter. My area is obviously staunch Labour and extremely woke. I wouldn’t vote Tory (which I have for over 40 years) again, not while BJ is in charge.
Starmer no way he is just as you say an empty shell.Never stood up for our rights but agreed with Boris on everything.As for some of his party so racist.
Boris has spent the oil of his majority on pursuing a policy of zero covid and zero C02, and now that the bottle is empty he has no oil to lighten his lamp so walks in inky darkness, not knowing where he is going or what stands before him. What a waste!
I don’t think for one second we’re being highly unfair on him. Boris’s job is to deliver on the pledge he made in 2019, and so far has not done so.
Reclaim or reform for me. Get Nigel behind it.
7 elections and he couldn't win 1!!!!
Isn't Farage still chairman of Reform? I truly don't think he cares about either.
I might even vote for ‘Britain first’!
I might vote Britain first!
Rob Butler is my local mp, he has been absolutely terrible. I would never vote for him again.
I'll vote for whoever is pro freedom and is against mandatory anything.
If he hadn't tried to defend the previous MP there would have been no election.
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
Why did they bother with a Channel Tunnel when it is so easy to get across by sea?
Most definitely Not . Voting for Reform
As a conservative I am discussed by lockdowns, tax rises, no borders and the vaccine passport. They will never get my vote again.
Lib Dems 😂more socialism what a joke .
Do you even know what socialism is?
@@fogellmclovin6278 the realisation of communism rather than capitalism .you Cheeky git !
you know the tories are gonna lose their bottle and go even more left in response to this
This guy talks serious sense at start of interview