Yoo I have Matilda built with her ecb hitting 5 times in a row, Do you think It's worth it to Built Priscilla Just to fit her into Coq's Team? Or is there any better Alternative teams I should built that deserve my well earned resources? Also Does Coq's Ecb have a Hit Limit? Like it can only hit a Maximum of 5 times per second or something?
If you like Pricilla, yes it's worth it. She is part of Coquelic's team but she is also a good unit outside of it. I've her built since I started playing the game two years ago and I've been using her everywhere except for BFL. And if you have the resources to level up her second passive to 10 you won't regret it If you don't particularly like her, then I would say no. You have better all-around sinners you can build first if you didn't already. NOX, Deren and Shalom (if you have them), Labyrinth and/or Che (no need to fully build them if you don't want to), OwO or Vanilla (one good tank), Hamel and/or Du Ruo or Ariel (one good healer), Enfer and/or Cabernet (one good support), Lady Pearl. That's the most noteworthy sinners I can think of Then you have the differents teams that require specifics sinners and most often than not a lot of resources but are worth the investment. Atm I would rank them like this: weakspot > burn > coq > bleed / summon & shield in their own category Do note that Coquelic's team is almost never used in BFL because Pricilla's ult costs a lot and Matilda needs some time to ramp up Recommended to build: - Weakspot: Bianca, Shawn and Golan - Burn: Yao (limited), Yanyan and Thistle (and Hestia if you have her and want to build her) - Bleed: Dreya (S1 is recommended), Levy and Sumire (and Pepper if you have the resources) Not recommended to build (for informational purposes): - Summon (EEE): Enfer, Eleven and Eve / A complicated team because it's the harder to play, doesn't work if the enemies can't be feared and shackles are heavily recommended (at least Eleven S1 and Eve S1) but if you know what you are doing, it can be your best team - Shield: Demon at S4 / I haven't seen this team outside of TOA, it's a very niche one. But it's the only one that can kill the Apostle on form V on a single try if I'm not mistaken. Usually Demon is paired with Summer and Eirene but he has been recently paired with Shrooma too As for Coquelic, if her ECB has a hit limit, it's not stated anywhere. Its hit limit should be the attack speed of the sinners who have her ult: “When an allied unit with [Scarlet Flower] deals Normal Attack Damage to an enemy, Coquelic has a 80 % / 90% / 100% chance to deal a [Floral Sword Slash] to that enemy”
My Matilda isn't built so take my answer with a grain of salt Short answer: Yes most of the time but most likely no for BFL Matilda attack speed is 0.83. Her mania intensify gives her a 15% increase. So 0.83 + (0.83 x 15%) = 0.9545 Her second passive “Tactical Reload” gives her bonus attack speed after each reload, up to 5 times. If her passive is at lvl 7 (recommended level), she gains a 6.3% bonus. So: First bonus: 0.9545 + (0.9545 x 6.3%) = 1.014... Second bonus: 1.014... + (1.014... x 6.3%) =1.078... etc Last bonus: Her total attack speed is ~1.3 Pricilla attack speed is 1.5 - She doesn't need time to ramp up (in TOA this isn't as important and you can “cheat” this with Matilda's ECB if you need her full buff quickly (like in BFL)) - Her attack speed is better than buffed Matilda in any case (or you have to level up her passive more) - She gains a 100% attack speed with her ult (attack speed = 3) - Her ECB summons a clown to assist. I don't know if it has her attack speed or not but in any case, if you use Coquelic's ult on Pricilla when she already have a Scarlet Flower and her clown is summoned, the Scarlet Flower will attach itself to the clown (like with Summer's drones) so you'll have another ally on the field for Coquelic's first passive and ECB + In my case, Pricilla's second passive is lvl 10 so she only has a 1% damage reduction on her normal attack during her ult. So she attacks fast and hard :D BUT: In BFL, Pricilla's ult will be hard to time correctly and its energy cost is high so that's her big malus (And now I hope I didn't make a mistake in my calculations haha)
@@Lilislium never thought I would get a thorough explanation asking about PtN. Yeah, I somehow got the math already. Didn't realize Coco's flower will be attached to the clown. That changes thing. Thank you very much!
@@wirakirros7281 Haha well when I answer a question, I like to give an explanation for that answer. Because it may help someone to understand something better or to discover something new. And also because I may not be a casual player but I'm not a min-maxing player either and I may very well be missing an information, misinterpreting/misunderstanding something (and English isn't my native language so there is that too) or using incorrect calculations as a reference Yeah the twist with Coquelic's skills is that their descriptions don't say “sinners” but “allies.” That's why her ult works on the whale in the video. You can also attach Scarlet Flower to Stargazer's Victory Stars iirc You're welcome!
What I like with Coquelic's team is that she doesn't really need specific sinners like it's the case for the bleed team, weakspot team, etc. What you want is sinners whose base attack speed is high (usually more than 1) and/or whose kit/shackles give(s) them an attack speed increase Both: Pricilla > Summer (+ drones) = Dolly > Chameleon (+ support skills) > Che Base attack speed: Flora (mind her ult) Kit/shackles: Matilda > Luvia Ray > Joan > Gekkabijin Special case: Lady Pearl - Her attack speed increase comes from her ECB (usable once and when you use Coquelic's ECB) and ideally you want it at lvl 3. But what is also interesting with her kit is that her second passive gives a normal attack damage increase to all sinners in the Backup Stage area. Since we want sinners who attack fast for Coquelic, this is a really nice buff Coquelic's favorite teammates are Pricilla, Matilda and Lady Pearl And sometimes you may want a sinner who doesn't work very well with Coquelic but is strong on his own. That's why I use Shalom and Deren. They don't need anyone to shine and the damage bonus that a high attack speed sinner would have given Coquelic wouldn't be worth it compared to their own damage. Donald is here because I needed a character with two more core-breaks and a decent amount of HP to tank the boss. His attack speed is also pretty decent when he is in overload (which he is most of the time in this video)
@@Lilislium oh, i see thank you so much for the details So if i understand correctly the bis teammate for her is Priscilla or Matilda and Lady Pearl others are depending on situations but prefer to pick some op sinners right?
@@elynze.4998 Yes! - Summer and Dolly are good replacements in longer fights (mostly for TOA) - For Chameleon you'll have to test if benching a dps for her is worth it - Che has a decent attack speed, a debuff with his ult and two core-breaks so he gives utility if you need it - Flora has the highest attack speed in the game (2) but her ult drastically reduces it (you may want to use her with the Prisoner of the Deep set if you have it) - Luvia Ray can be a good replacement if her ult and second passive are at high levels (you want them at more than 7) but it's usually the skills you don't level up much because her basic attack and first passive are more interesting - Joan gains attack speed when she ults (44.4% for 10s at level 7) so you can manage to squeeze her in a team if you give her a energy set - You may consider using Gekkabijin against bosses because her ult gives her target a mark and she gains attack speed against marked enemies (it's annoying to manage against multiple enemies and not worth the trouble). She also has two core-breaks (but not Che's amazing debuff)
Yoo I have Matilda built with her ecb hitting 5 times in a row, Do you think It's worth it to Built Priscilla Just to fit her into Coq's Team? Or is there any better Alternative teams I should built that deserve my well earned resources?
Also Does Coq's Ecb have a Hit Limit? Like it can only hit a Maximum of 5 times per second or something?
If you like Pricilla, yes it's worth it. She is part of Coquelic's team but she is also a good unit outside of it. I've her built since I started playing the game two years ago and I've been using her everywhere except for BFL. And if you have the resources to level up her second passive to 10 you won't regret it
If you don't particularly like her, then I would say no. You have better all-around sinners you can build first if you didn't already. NOX, Deren and Shalom (if you have them), Labyrinth and/or Che (no need to fully build them if you don't want to), OwO or Vanilla (one good tank), Hamel and/or Du Ruo or Ariel (one good healer), Enfer and/or Cabernet (one good support), Lady Pearl. That's the most noteworthy sinners I can think of
Then you have the differents teams that require specifics sinners and most often than not a lot of resources but are worth the investment. Atm I would rank them like this: weakspot > burn > coq > bleed / summon & shield in their own category
Do note that Coquelic's team is almost never used in BFL because Pricilla's ult costs a lot and Matilda needs some time to ramp up
Recommended to build:
- Weakspot: Bianca, Shawn and Golan
- Burn: Yao (limited), Yanyan and Thistle (and Hestia if you have her and want to build her)
- Bleed: Dreya (S1 is recommended), Levy and Sumire (and Pepper if you have the resources)
Not recommended to build (for informational purposes):
- Summon (EEE): Enfer, Eleven and Eve / A complicated team because it's the harder to play, doesn't work if the enemies can't be feared and shackles are heavily recommended (at least Eleven S1 and Eve S1) but if you know what you are doing, it can be your best team
- Shield: Demon at S4 / I haven't seen this team outside of TOA, it's a very niche one. But it's the only one that can kill the Apostle on form V on a single try if I'm not mistaken. Usually Demon is paired with Summer and Eirene but he has been recently paired with Shrooma too
As for Coquelic, if her ECB has a hit limit, it's not stated anywhere. Its hit limit should be the attack speed of the sinners who have her ult: “When an allied unit with [Scarlet Flower] deals Normal Attack Damage to an enemy, Coquelic has a 80 % / 90% / 100% chance to deal a [Floral Sword Slash] to that enemy”
Is Priscilla better than Matilda in ASPD team?
My Matilda isn't built so take my answer with a grain of salt
Short answer: Yes most of the time but most likely no for BFL
Matilda attack speed is 0.83. Her mania intensify gives her a 15% increase. So 0.83 + (0.83 x 15%) = 0.9545
Her second passive “Tactical Reload” gives her bonus attack speed after each reload, up to 5 times. If her passive is at lvl 7 (recommended level), she gains a 6.3% bonus. So:
First bonus: 0.9545 + (0.9545 x 6.3%) = 1.014...
Second bonus: 1.014... + (1.014... x 6.3%) =1.078...
etc
Last bonus: Her total attack speed is ~1.3
Pricilla attack speed is 1.5
- She doesn't need time to ramp up (in TOA this isn't as important and you can “cheat” this with Matilda's ECB if you need her full buff quickly (like in BFL))
- Her attack speed is better than buffed Matilda in any case (or you have to level up her passive more)
- She gains a 100% attack speed with her ult (attack speed = 3)
- Her ECB summons a clown to assist. I don't know if it has her attack speed or not but in any case, if you use Coquelic's ult on Pricilla when she already have a Scarlet Flower and her clown is summoned, the Scarlet Flower will attach itself to the clown (like with Summer's drones) so you'll have another ally on the field for Coquelic's first passive and ECB
+ In my case, Pricilla's second passive is lvl 10 so she only has a 1% damage reduction on her normal attack during her ult. So she attacks fast and hard :D
BUT: In BFL, Pricilla's ult will be hard to time correctly and its energy cost is high so that's her big malus
(And now I hope I didn't make a mistake in my calculations haha)
@@Lilislium never thought I would get a thorough explanation asking about PtN. Yeah, I somehow got the math already. Didn't realize Coco's flower will be attached to the clown. That changes thing. Thank you very much!
@@wirakirros7281 Haha well when I answer a question, I like to give an explanation for that answer. Because it may help someone to understand something better or to discover something new. And also because I may not be a casual player but I'm not a min-maxing player either and I may very well be missing an information, misinterpreting/misunderstanding something (and English isn't my native language so there is that too) or using incorrect calculations as a reference
Yeah the twist with Coquelic's skills is that their descriptions don't say “sinners” but “allies.” That's why her ult works on the whale in the video. You can also attach Scarlet Flower to Stargazer's Victory Stars iirc
You're welcome!
@@Lilislium that's nice to know. I think I'll try using summer. Since, well, I have her S5 (losing 50-50 7 times to Summer, imagine 🤣)
@@wirakirros7281 Oh I can almost imagine it, I have her S4 🥲 She won't help you in BFL but in RotD/MT (and TOA the next time) she probably will
What’s necessary and core for this coco team and is there some char replacement ?
What I like with Coquelic's team is that she doesn't really need specific sinners like it's the case for the bleed team, weakspot team, etc. What you want is sinners whose base attack speed is high (usually more than 1) and/or whose kit/shackles give(s) them an attack speed increase
Both: Pricilla > Summer (+ drones) = Dolly > Chameleon (+ support skills) > Che
Base attack speed: Flora (mind her ult)
Kit/shackles: Matilda > Luvia Ray > Joan > Gekkabijin
Special case: Lady Pearl - Her attack speed increase comes from her ECB (usable once and when you use Coquelic's ECB) and ideally you want it at lvl 3. But what is also interesting with her kit is that her second passive gives a normal attack damage increase to all sinners in the Backup Stage area. Since we want sinners who attack fast for Coquelic, this is a really nice buff
Coquelic's favorite teammates are Pricilla, Matilda and Lady Pearl
And sometimes you may want a sinner who doesn't work very well with Coquelic but is strong on his own. That's why I use Shalom and Deren. They don't need anyone to shine and the damage bonus that a high attack speed sinner would have given Coquelic wouldn't be worth it compared to their own damage. Donald is here because I needed a character with two more core-breaks and a decent amount of HP to tank the boss. His attack speed is also pretty decent when he is in overload (which he is most of the time in this video)
@@Lilislium oh, i see thank you so much for the details
So if i understand correctly the bis teammate for her is Priscilla or Matilda and Lady Pearl others are depending on situations but prefer to pick some op sinners right?
@@elynze.4998 Yes!
- Summer and Dolly are good replacements in longer fights (mostly for TOA)
- For Chameleon you'll have to test if benching a dps for her is worth it
- Che has a decent attack speed, a debuff with his ult and two core-breaks so he gives utility if you need it
- Flora has the highest attack speed in the game (2) but her ult drastically reduces it (you may want to use her with the Prisoner of the Deep set if you have it)
- Luvia Ray can be a good replacement if her ult and second passive are at high levels (you want them at more than 7) but it's usually the skills you don't level up much because her basic attack and first passive are more interesting
- Joan gains attack speed when she ults (44.4% for 10s at level 7) so you can manage to squeeze her in a team if you give her a energy set
- You may consider using Gekkabijin against bosses because her ult gives her target a mark and she gains attack speed against marked enemies (it's annoying to manage against multiple enemies and not worth the trouble). She also has two core-breaks (but not Che's amazing debuff)
@@Lilislium Thank you again!
This help me a lot 😭
yea she strong but only s3 if u have s0 u cant do like this video.
I only have her S1 tho. But yeah, S3 is a huge improvement