I was literally trying to decide exactly this for my 1st NAS on a 6 bay Synology. I already have like 25TB storage in my desktop maxed out. I can get this for 1.1k but the 18TB is $850. Thats alot of difference but my OCD and round numbers!!! Subbed and added so many of your videos to a watchlist
I remember the first time our home pc had a drive into the gigabytes and my dad bitchin' about how expensive it was. I think in the thousands? That was 1980s/90s dollars too. Some of the earliest games I played got "too big" so you had to swap the big floppy disks to continue playing lol.
crazy to think that Jan 1st 2000. the largest drive was still 17.2gb; and now Jan 1 2023, we have the 22TB DC HC570/GOLD/Red Pro model from the same manufacturer - WD
I have the 18TB version because Newegg had it on sale for under $400CAD. That's only 22¢ per GB! I couldn't say no to that because it's the same price per GB as an 8TB WD Blue. That's just insane!
Now that somebody has pointed it out, I can''t help notice the lip sync delay. Its like watching a 1970's martial arts movie. 😂 And back on topic that single 20Tb drive is the same size as all the drives in my DS918. Gulp 🥴🥴
I got the Toshiba Mg08 at 16gb as I feel that is the best price point. Furthermore it still has more traditional CMR tech in it. I leave the FC-MAMR newer experiments to others for now. Yes it is noisy as well.
A year later, the 'sweet spot' on pricing is at about 12-14 TB; I just got 2 ea brand new Exos 14 TB drives for $198 each...; can't find WS Red Plus 10 TB drives for less than that...
Not until it drops in price. 16TB are better value for money. 16TB are about £17 per TB but 20TB drives are about £21.50 per TB. Can someone explain this woo-woo to me please? Don't come back with R&D...
I just got the 1821+ now the mission is to fill it with these and 2 drives of redundancy. I have started with shr1 and 4 wd red 2tb drives though as they where living around.
The 20tb wd ultra star hc560 for 375 on scan. Sometime cheaper to get 16tb toshiba enterprise 238 to 260. And 18tb toshiba 280 to 300 vs 600 to 650 gor the 22tb models that just came out to buy last few days. So sometimes cheaper buying twice as many smaller drives so 36tb vs 22tb and some change
20TB or not, it's WD. I mean after years using WD MyCloud and its discs, I'm now a Synology and Seagate convert. Especially after my MyCloud bricked for not being able to upgrade to OS5. So no. No more WD for me. Just as anything LG products. Now, I have the 20TB Seagate Ironwolf HDD for my Plex libraries.
Nice but I'm not in the target audience. I need a maximum of 4TB storage space and have therefore set up a small 4 bay NAS with SSD's at home. That was the best decision for me. No noise, no vibrations and always quick access to my data.
Largest drive I have so far is the WD Gold 18tb and I don't notice too much noise...or I could just be used to a lot of machinery running that it doesn't phase me. Have you done any comparisons on the Red Pro vs. Gold vs Ultrastar? I'll look on the channel to see if I can find some. I'm trying to see if there's really any difference other than price.
I have the 18TB wd red pro version. 9 platters at 2tb. Doesn’t have the optinand but it’s faster than the 20TB for some reason. I’m also a bit worried about data corruption on optinand. The whole metadata table is on there. You could lose all data on the disk in an instant.
Yes, I just bought two of these. I considered WD Ultrastore and Seagate Ironwolf, but I don't want gimmicks like helium. I've always had good luck with WD, so I decided to trust them again.
I bought a Synology DS923+ NAS and I bought four WD Red Pro 20TB drives only to find out that DSM would not install with these drives. Ended up having to buy four Seagate Enox 20TB drives to get the Diskstation set up and running. How can I get the WD Red Pro drives initialied and formated so I can use them on a Windows 11 Pro system?
Of course you can use single drive. NAS drives have optimized firmware for multidrive setup, but nothing stops using it alone.
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Too many eggs in the same bag? Think on those with a 2-bay NAS. They don't have a Plan B. U R right when you speak about the backup, but maybe they only need a backup of certain files, not all of them. Regards.
i came here JUST for the noise section.. i got a WD mybook (which apparently uses reds but not pro) and just plugging in sounded like starting an old windows 1995 drive! -- why are they SOO much more noisier? my drive is 16TB but my 8TB is silent! - i was going to get a 4 bay nas with 4 8tb drives (two different raids two drives are used as one and the other two are "clone backups".. but it was too costly as the 16tb mybook was only £230 on prime deal. it also THUMPS every few seconds when not in use, and apparently thats normal? what is going on that makes them thump and be so loud even without reading or writing data?
Good evening Sir, I have just come across your channel. May I ask is £760 on amazon uk for the 36tb WD My Book Duo a good price? I need it for my Bluray movie and TV collections, as well as other things. I was thinking of buying two so as to make sure all my stuff is protected. Thank you and have a loving weekend.
Tbh I had the Fury in the studio. Purchased it personally after reaching out to the brand and getting no where. And the unit that arrives was faulty. No disrespect to the brand, nothing is perfect and all brands have an error/failure margin. But after sending it back for a refund, other projects arrived and it ended up falling into the "to do" pile and never really got out of it. Sorry for the slightly unsatisfying answer, but that's pretty much the long and short of it. Hope that explains it enough
Tbh man I leave the ads at default, but tbh I would expect 1 pre vid ad, one mid vid ad and maybe one ad right after the vid. If that isn't the case, then something is definitely F'd up. I'll look into it man
@@nascompares I think YT is just fucking with me. If I hear one more fkn GOOOGLEFI commercial I'm going to rip out the CAT6 out of the wall. BTW - based largely on your recommendations, I went with the QNAP h973AX about a year ago. Just upgraded to 5 16 TB WD Red Pro drives and set up Plex. I like being able to watch all of Battlestar Galatica without having to change out a disk or wait through all the FBI warnings of breaking in my door if I make a copy. Still trying to figure out how to get the NAS to automatically backup work on the computer. Any thoughts?
@@mads5000 Storage is separated from editing NVMe drive. You copy needed material on NVMe and edit on it. Don't say you can't do editing with 2*2TB NVMe drives. I am making 3D animation and rendered EXR-files are over 100MB per frame. HDDs in any RAID is out of the question.
I was literally trying to decide exactly this for my 1st NAS on a 6 bay Synology. I already have like 25TB storage in my desktop maxed out. I can get this for 1.1k but the 18TB is $850. Thats alot of difference but my OCD and round numbers!!!
Subbed and added so many of your videos to a watchlist
Remember the old days when a 20 megabyte drive was more than most people would need?
I remember the first time our home pc had a drive into the gigabytes and my dad bitchin' about how expensive it was. I think in the thousands? That was 1980s/90s dollars too. Some of the earliest games I played got "too big" so you had to swap the big floppy disks to continue playing lol.
crazy to think that Jan 1st 2000. the largest drive was still 17.2gb; and now Jan 1 2023, we have the 22TB DC HC570/GOLD/Red Pro model from the same manufacturer - WD
is it just me or is the Audio slightly off from the video.. Like 1/2 sec different.
Excellent video as always! Very detailed, very useful!
I have the 18TB version because Newegg had it on sale for under $400CAD. That's only 22¢ per GB! I couldn't say no to that because it's the same price per GB as an 8TB WD Blue. That's just insane!
Hoarders dream HDD.
Now that somebody has pointed it out, I can''t help notice the lip sync delay. Its like watching a 1970's martial arts movie. 😂
And back on topic that single 20Tb drive is the same size as all the drives in my DS918. Gulp 🥴🥴
I like loud hard drives (seeking and access noise, not bearing noise). This looks like a good storage drive for me.
I got the Toshiba Mg08 at 16gb as I feel that is the best price point. Furthermore it still has more traditional CMR tech in it. I leave the FC-MAMR newer experiments to others for now. Yes it is noisy as well.
Agreed. Just bought 2 for under $500. They look to be excellent drives.
14:30 Is there a quiet 18+TB drive? I use to use Red 5400RPM to maximize quietness
A year later, the 'sweet spot' on pricing is at about 12-14 TB; I just got 2 ea brand new Exos 14 TB drives for $198 each...; can't find WS Red Plus 10 TB drives for less than that...
WOW. That WD Red Pro sounds like 30 year old childrens wagon being pulled down a gravel alley
Another excellent review. Once I heard the noise of that drive, I just laughed of the face you made.
Not until it drops in price. 16TB are better value for money. 16TB are about £17 per TB but 20TB drives are about £21.50 per TB.
Can someone explain this woo-woo to me please? Don't come back with R&D...
I just got the 1821+ now the mission is to fill it with these and 2 drives of redundancy. I have started with shr1 and 4 wd red 2tb drives though as they where living around.
The 20tb wd ultra star hc560 for 375 on scan. Sometime cheaper to get 16tb toshiba enterprise 238 to 260. And 18tb toshiba 280 to 300 vs 600 to 650 gor the 22tb models that just came out to buy last few days. So sometimes cheaper buying twice as many smaller drives so 36tb vs 22tb and some change
why is the ultra star so cheap? is there any reason to get the Red Pro over that?
Holding out for the 22tb model
20TB or not, it's WD. I mean after years using WD MyCloud and its discs, I'm now a Synology and Seagate convert. Especially after my MyCloud bricked for not being able to upgrade to OS5.
So no. No more WD for me. Just as anything LG products.
Now, I have the 20TB Seagate Ironwolf HDD for my Plex libraries.
Nice but I'm not in the target audience. I need a maximum of 4TB storage space and have therefore set up a small 4 bay NAS with SSD's at home. That was the best decision for me. No noise, no vibrations and always quick access to my data.
Largest drive I have so far is the WD Gold 18tb and I don't notice too much noise...or I could just be used to a lot of machinery running that it doesn't phase me. Have you done any comparisons on the Red Pro vs. Gold vs Ultrastar? I'll look on the channel to see if I can find some. I'm trying to see if there's really any difference other than price.
I have the 18TB wd red pro version. 9 platters at 2tb. Doesn’t have the optinand but it’s faster than the 20TB for some reason. I’m also a bit worried about data corruption on optinand. The whole metadata table is on there. You could lose all data on the disk in an instant.
Great video. Thanks.
CMR or SMR? I'll wait a few years until when they start retiring some of these and they end up on ebay... 😁
Yes, I just bought two of these. I considered WD Ultrastore and Seagate Ironwolf, but I don't want gimmicks like helium. I've always had good luck with WD, so I decided to trust them again.
I bought a Synology DS923+ NAS and I bought four WD Red Pro 20TB drives only to find out that DSM would not install with these drives. Ended up having to buy four Seagate Enox 20TB drives to get the Diskstation set up and running. How can I get the WD Red Pro drives initialied and formated so I can use them on a Windows 11 Pro system?
I got myself a bunch of 14tb red plus. Very quiet, very affordable....might not be the right for everyone.
Is that a Harley Davidson being spin up in that NAS???
These are clearly not for consumers - the RED series was always meant to be in a raided setup.
Of course you can use single drive. NAS drives have optimized firmware for multidrive setup, but nothing stops using it alone.
Too many eggs in the same bag? Think on those with a 2-bay NAS. They don't have a Plan B. U R right when you speak about the backup, but maybe they only need a backup of certain files, not all of them. Regards.
I got ds1520 plus and 5 toshiba 16tb drives tried a qbap with 2x 18tb hds and dont like siftware compared to synology
i came here JUST for the noise section.. i got a WD mybook (which apparently uses reds but not pro) and just plugging in sounded like starting an old windows 1995 drive! -- why are they SOO much more noisier? my drive is 16TB but my 8TB is silent! - i was going to get a 4 bay nas with 4 8tb drives (two different raids two drives are used as one and the other two are "clone backups".. but it was too costly as the 16tb mybook was only £230 on prime deal.
it also THUMPS every few seconds when not in use, and apparently thats normal? what is going on that makes them thump and be so loud even without reading or writing data?
What do you mean "full review"?! Where is THAT video at???
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Good evening Sir, I have just come across your channel. May I ask is £760 on amazon uk for the 36tb WD My Book Duo a good price? I need it for my Bluray movie and TV collections, as well as other things. I was thinking of buying two so as to make sure all my stuff is protected. Thank you and have a loving weekend.
I watch just for the seagulls.
What sIze pro has acceptable noise? In your opinion?
Seriously go with enterprise, save a lot of money and a get a better drive. These "Pro" drives make no sense.
Hello mr.NASCompares, is there any reason you didn't tested any of kingston nvme ssd like kc3000 and FURY Renegade, sorry for OT.
Tbh I had the Fury in the studio. Purchased it personally after reaching out to the brand and getting no where. And the unit that arrives was faulty. No disrespect to the brand, nothing is perfect and all brands have an error/failure margin. But after sending it back for a refund, other projects arrived and it ended up falling into the "to do" pile and never really got out of it. Sorry for the slightly unsatisfying answer, but that's pretty much the long and short of it. Hope that explains it enough
can i use it in a pc
20tb is enough for me for i install many games!
Dude. Too many ads. Every section of this video triggers an ad and that's too much. Do you have your settings turned up to eleven for ads?
Tbh man I leave the ads at default, but tbh I would expect 1 pre vid ad, one mid vid ad and maybe one ad right after the vid. If that isn't the case, then something is definitely F'd up. I'll look into it man
@@nascompares I think YT is just fucking with me. If I hear one more fkn GOOOGLEFI commercial I'm going to rip out the CAT6 out of the wall.
BTW - based largely on your recommendations, I went with the QNAP h973AX about a year ago. Just upgraded to 5 16 TB WD Red Pro drives and set up Plex.
I like being able to watch all of Battlestar Galatica without having to change out a disk or wait through all the FBI warnings of breaking in my door if I make a copy.
Still trying to figure out how to get the NAS to automatically backup work on the computer. Any thoughts?
5:01 Crying Dog in the Background, anyone?
Off topic but why cant you get any RAID 3 systems anymore?
Wouldn't things like video editing benefit greatly with a RAID 3 disk system?
I Googled RAID 3 and it looks ultimately stupid configuration. We have NVME drives for that purpose.
@@mikakorhonen5715 Yeah sure, good answer Mika. Just throw away My eight 10TB drives and buy a couple of 60 TB NVME's instead😊Thanks mate 👍
@@mads5000 Storage is separated from editing NVMe drive. You copy needed material on NVMe and edit on it. Don't say you can't do editing with 2*2TB NVMe drives. I am making 3D animation and rendered EXR-files are over 100MB per frame. HDDs in any RAID is out of the question.
@@mikakorhonen5715 100TB or even more would be better... right?
After hearing the noise.. NO THANKS!
Haha, Seagulls again?
One another CON - its WD, product of these great liars. No WD product anymore for my money.
not that big i have 8 of them and need more wd keeps playing with the prices
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