Racism in the NHS - Documentary
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2022
- DISCLAIMER: This video was self-funded by us; we are not receiving any funding from any public bodies, the NHS, or universities. We also do not claim to be experts on the subject of racism and we do understand that it is a more complex issue than what is mentioned in the video.
We are Alysha Harun and Hashvi Shah, two final year medical students, and soon to be doctors, from Keele University.
We are both from minority backgrounds and have seen racism play out during our years at university.
We created this documentary as part of our final year elective project to raise awareness about the growing issue of racism in the NHS and its impact on students, staff and patient care. We have showcased the different types of racism that play out in the NHS and highlighted the experiences of racism faced by ethnic minority doctors and medical students from across the UK. Furthermore, we have also explored some solutions in tackling this problem.
We hope that by sharing this documentary we can raise awareness on this issue and spark conversation within the medical community to help make a change.
We would be grateful if you could help to spread the word by sharing with your family, friends and colleagues. Thank you.
We have also provided the links to all the organisations we have mentioned in the documentary below:
British Medical Association - www.bma.org.uk/advice
Royal College of Nursing - www.rcn.org.uk/get-help/membe...
Royal College of Midwives - www.rcm.org.uk/supporting/get...
Midlands Racial Equality in Medicine (MREM) Network - mrem.resource@warwick.ac.uk
Project 5 - www.project5.org
Black Thrive - www.lambethandsouthwarkmind.o...
lambeth.blackthrive.org
Our Frontline - www.mentalhealthatwork.org.uk...
Harley Therapy - harleytherapy.com/we-can-help...
Mind - www.mind.org.uk/information-s...
Samaritans - www.samaritans.org/how-we-can...
Black Minds Matter - www.blackmindsmatteruk.com
The Black, African and Asian Therapy Network - www.baatn.org.uk/free-services/
Trained in the NHS, and left it as soon as possible. The racism is rampant, patients are suffering and dying as a result. Blame culture, bullying, favouritism the list goes on. This institution needs to dismantled and rebuilt. The NHS Need a reform urgently. So much money mismanagement, hiring young inexperienced white staff over staff that have been qualified for years. It’s a dangerous game to play with someone health. Left and never looked back. I’d rather be broke, then be someone that is part of system that is enabling it.
The real problem is that the country is poor. NO money for hospitals, schools, railways, roads, paying doctors,nurses, teachers, care workers, training up more doctors and nurses etc. The health service is NOT working. They can't adopt any European health system because it is simply too expensive . The only other option is make the public pay partially for their health care. Already they have to pay for medication, nhs dentistry is no more...it is set to get even worse. You've probably experienced their unreliable but expensive railways because again there's NO money to build European style railways, that would simply cost too much, it would also pose an intellectual challenge about how to build proper railways, then trying to persuade the green lobby 😂😂 about building a railway line thru areas of natural beauty ( what, flat green land? Natural beaut ) etc.
I'm a British Indian doctor for 22 years.. there is loads of racism in the NHS... it's subtle, it's not overt, it's bullying, it's not name calling.. I can't stand it.. Worst of, i can't stand the ignorance... EX NHS GP now... ! Thank you for brining this to light...
Even worse when you think why the people who are running the failing health service are being paid 10 times the salary of a nurse and getting a gold plated pension after retirement.
Not good at all. A family member of mine also received a vicious bout of racism from an Asian patient (Indian sub-continent) who questioned how an African could have the intellectual capacity to become a medical doctor. Sadly, downright ridiculous opinion about Black intellectual inferiority is not only a Eurocentric belief but a global phenomenon. Like a very brilliant Ghanaian American journalist once said, Black dislike is a global phenomenon.
Where are you working now if you don't mind me asking
That's not the worst part, the worst part is we are all paying for these pricks to continue spreading their stupid behaviour on everyone else.
@L S I agree with you. Racism is not peculiar to one race.
I am white, not medically trained. I've had plenty of hospital stays over the years and I would NEVER object to a Dr because of their skin colour. I cannot understand how, so called educated white senior staff, would think it's ok to undermine a person because of their ethnicity. As a patient I couldn't stand by and watch this without speaking up. When I am ill, I will always be so appreciative of my care by any Dr or nurse. It's the responsibility of colleagues and patients, to speak up and report any incidents of racism. We shouldn't have to experience such inequality and discrimination in 2022.
It happens all the time, people will say ‘I can’t understand their accent’ can I have a different doctor and because health care is all about ‘person centred care’ it is allowed
Well after coming to UK I got most exams in first attempt but sorry to say the questions asked of non white candidates were unbelievable, I have personal experience, one examiner asked me about Ether in 1978 when Ether had not been used since late 60's. I was old enough to remember it but still fumbled to which he remarked Doctor you will have to know about Ether because that is what you will have to use when you go back to your country, Ether had certainly not used in India since early 70's plus more importantly how did he know I was going back to 'my country's, as it happens I didn't go plus this was my final exam which is supposed to be Clinical so why Pharmacology? Ofcourse I answered most of his other questions really well so I did pass but he tried his best not to pass but had to. Real racism started after the exams, I struggled to get a Consultant position, made over 10 applications, finally a friend asked me to apply in army ( white I hasten to add) which I did and got a consultant position in Aldershot. I had a wonderful time too, liked the work, was appreciated and attended many formal and informal dinners.
Hmm, personally I find it pretty easy to understand. If you work hard to care for patients and adopt the norms of professionalism and you come to suspect that someone doesn't share your values, undermines your professionalism or harm patients it's quite easy to see why you might care about this more than racism. Now ideally you construct understandings that "filter" for what you find harmful better than background - but you can see why it's there.
Regarding "patient-centered care". I mean, yes, providing people necessary treatment without coercion is pretty important, in fact if you don't think this is more important than notions of racism you should be removed from healthcare. That said there is necessary and necessary and you cannot expect the state to make that much accommodation for racism.
thank you x
@@CB-123 Being able to communicate in english shouldnt have to be begged for in an english country.
I hope foreign doctors and nurses who are watching this and are thinking of applying to work in the UK think long and hard . Then consider the long working hours, then consider the longest commuting times, then consider the rip off property prices, then consider the high rent/poor standard accommodation, then consider high cost of living, then consider the highest public transport fares in Europe, then consider the quality of life etc.
They will not understand. So of this things are down to experience
Do you think someone from a 3rd world country cares about racism . I'm from a 3rd world country working in the UK and even if you say you will be sticking a hot 🔥 iron rod in my ass daily and add racism on top I will still want to work and live in the UK . If you have never lived in a country where all these doctors and nurses are coming from you will not understand. Racism complaining is for people born and raised in the UK . As for me I don't care how racist anyone is or how dip they are fking my ass as long as I get paid and look after my family I'm happy . Whites will always be whites . Racism is in their nature I don't care what anyone says . I grew up with whites in Zimbabwe and South Africa and then England . They are all the same .
Thank you so much!
@@maxlynlc2718 I thought the same they will think you don't want them to come to the Uk! Sad!
This video is about BOTH people who come from other countries AND those who are born in UK. Me included entered the NHS to care. We came because there was a shortage of white folks. What we didn't expect is what's being told in this video.
Racism is real. I am an NHS nurse recruited during covid.
Last week my son was ill.
I knew he needed antibiotics . They didn't bother to take his bloods we were discharged and advised that if it gets worse we should go to another hospital 45mins away.
2days after still no improvement I took him to the other NHS TRUST and the white triage nurse asked me why I didn't take him to the GP ??
She asked which country I was from and rolled her eyes when I responded
Anyways we waited 6hours we finally got to see a speanish doctor who said my six year old should have started antibiotics days ago.
What a relief I was glad that someone was listening.
My son who was weighing 35kg had lost some much weight and now 24kg.
#Black life matters. #Diversity and inclusion should not be lip service 🙄
What evidence is there that a white person with a non-British accent would have been treated any different to you?
Im glad your son got treatment he needed in the end but I think the underfunded nhs & pressure on staff means a lack of care for patients which is not necessarily racism
In Germany they also refuse to give black people antibiotics.
My daughter is going to be a final year medical student after summer, she already experienced racism during her clinical years . Racism comes from consultants, registrars and nurses. She is a distinction students. When she thinks of going back to wards after this summer break, her fear and anxiety come back again
OMG I never thought this would be brought to light. I have been in the NHS since 2004 as a nurse and the stories I could tell are overwhelming. The most visible is the fast tracking of WYT nurses from qualification to positions of authority with little or no experience while by passing minorities in similiar posts with vast experience. I do not know how they hold they heads up high when they have clearly been favoured and have no clinical skills or knowledge. It is the NHS and racism is rampant. I have become so numb to it.
I feel your pain .
Rubbish
@@britviking5960
I don’t want to believe there is racism in the NHS either so I hope you’re right but then how do you explain this video and all these testimonies ?
So True!
@@britviking5960 you must be white. That's why it's rubbish to you. It's people like you who do not acknowledge that there is racism that exacerbates the problem.
Thank you for this! This is amazing. As a nurse who also works within the NHS, I’m glad this is being highlighted! Great job! We need more of this!
Courage to highlight injustice is the first step towards the elimination of evil people from our land.
However we must also be careful not to promote the very thing we are fighting (particularly in use of certain words). The primary goal here is to establish a safer and more intelligent British society which everyone can adopt into.
I am a midwife in UK and I regret coming to work there..I have felt unequal, frustrated, inferior when pregnant mothers declined my help and preferred my white colleagues over me. Anyway, I give ZERO FUCKS now as I am moving where I am needed, respected and paid for my hard work...
Many of my colleagues left to other countries and now its my time.
Where are you headed
I hear you. In the days when you care for elderly on a medical ward. They tell you don't touch them with your bla.. hand. Now wind forward to your experience.... nothing much has changed.
Please which countries are you and the nurses headed to?
Oh man. I'm so sorry. How I wish I could have you as a midwife. My anxiety is off the roof with all the reports I've read of how black women are 5 times more likely to die during childbirth. I've only dealt with white midwives, with my first, and now this pregnancy.
I hope you find rest, joy and validation where you go. It would be an unfair ask to expect you to stay where you don't have support neither feel you belong.
I am black nurse and i chose to work so i can be the voice of the BAME Patient , and ensure they get the adequate care the amount of times i have seen BAME people not get care they deserve or just being overlooked compared to the white patient is heart breaking .
This is absolute BS, stop creating racial divide. There is no way this happens in the NHS.
My daughter underwent a terrible ordeal few days ago please read my comment and advise me how I may contact you .
Isn't 'BAME' just a euphemism for non-white?
Having to use words like this is part of the problem and we must be careful not to promote the very thing we are fighting. Of course at the same time we must have the courage to highlight injustice (as done in this video).
The real danger is when children pick up on words like this and it hits them much deeper than we can ever realize. We then start to sink back into one of those less socially intelligent, segregated societies of the 60s (like in the US).
@@maggieedwards3951 erm no thanks. I’m not saying they don’t suffer from racist abuse what I am saying is that white people don’t get preferential treatment when it comes to getting care/treatment on the NHS. That is complete BS
@@Ben-yp9nh you are white
I am a mental health nurse in the UK for nearly 7 years and how I suffered. I'm glad we are talking about it. Thank you for this video
Why did you suffer for so long? Ban perpetrators from the NHS and let them rot if they have no respect. These kinds are owed nothing.
@@hmmmmm2634 I tried to escalate it but they shut it down so I move from job to job or try and do me. It has been difficult but I keep to myself. It's hurt to explain but depending on your trust some will not back you.
@Hmmmmm 🤔 exactly. We seem to have become a welfare state catering to racists where decent hard working people have no voice.
Remember we are all obliged to pay for this. At the end of the day it is a state funded establishment, not a hospitality business. This behaviour is absolutely intolerable.
Even if you were to set aside the whole racism side of things, these patients and staff perpetrating these abuses are very poorly formed individuals unable to grasp even the rudimentary principles of a decent British society. Should they be making use of or working in a state funded British establishment?
Maybe you should stand up and open your mouth and stop being a victim !
I know how you feel, I’ve been let down so much by the healthcare system as a patient and as someone struggling with mental illness. I empathise so much with the black and ethnic people working in the healthcare system.
The treatment of the patients is the same we are treated not like individuals but part of the group and I’ve struggled so much with getting adequate help for my mental health, I’ve almost given up so many times but I’m still here, I refuse to become a statistic or another life lost to suicide.
I know I deserve to get well, but it’s so hard being tossed around from one clinician to another, they give me the wrong advice not a care in the world of my symptoms or issues. No empathy and it’s outrageous.
In 2015, I had an Angina attack and collapsed on the underground station, ambulance was called and was taken to A&E after waiting for ages, I was sent home by an angina nurse saying "black people don't have angina". Both paramedics, and the nurse where thinking I was acting up and refused to do any investigation. I couldn't even walk so I called myself a taxi to take me home. I live alone so I asked the taxi to stop and get me some Aspirin on the way. I put myself on Aspirin since until I started feeling better. My condition went undiagnosed even after having stillbirth and losing my baby. It wasn't until 2 years ago, when I was diagnosed with epilepsy.
Judy I'm in London I can look after you . What area are you in ?
@@BbBb-hw5pq Thank you very much, I appreciate that. I m in East London
My heart goes out to you 💔 Judy.
God bless you and heal 🙏🏿
There is a research done by Jarman. I think it's called the Jarman score. Kind of indices of deprivation, talking about inequalities in health where ethnic minorities scre high in deprivation of health care.
Do take good care of yourself and speak up as much as you can. Or report your case to PALS (patient advisory and liaison services) who can help you access equitable health services
We need more documentaries like these, because we don't talk about it enough, distract us with a thousand nonsense, instead of talking about serious things. Thank you very much for this documentary! I'm in the UK 🇬🇧 and and I always have to fight against racism, it hurts a lot.
We need a zero tolerance where you charge the racist and bar them from the NHS. When they realise how much private health care costs they’ll be begging on their knees.
Yes
The NHS sounds like a scary place and the scariest part is that we are all obliged to pay for it.
Either get your act together or we will retract your funding. Don't want to see this evil rubbish being promoted in our country by what is supposed to be a state owned British establishment.
Racism is there every where, there is no love between the races, if we could get along it would be nice.. But No... We can Not get along. Health and social care, education... We are used to it now, not bothered. If you don't like me it is Your responsibility and problems.. Deal with it. I am happy as a person.
To the Trinidadian young man ...you don't speak ghetto. You speak standard English with a Trini accent. Continue to be proud of who you are and where you came from 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
Important to note racism also exists within ethnic minority medics. I and my family members have been treated dismissively by Asian and black medical professionals who blatantly have prioritised white patients, and also look visibly surprised that I speak English well and have an education and a job etc.
Yes, there needs to be more awareness on internalised racism sadly which some people of the global majority (also refer refer to as people of colour) may have. More need to be done to address internalised racism, too.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Sometimes even asians ignore other asians and give priority only to the white ones. Even during covid hospitalisation asians were left to God's mercy.
We went to medical mission to Rwanda from India n were surprised to see that local doctors were giving preference to European trained doctors. I clearly observed that we were much better in doing neuro n uro surgeries.. it's because of colonial mindset in general population that white is more intelligent 😂
Very true and fact. I find racism within more than from white at my work place. 80% are us. Only 20% r white at my work place.
@@RoamingDoctors I think that is a totally different topic, most of the Asian population thinks the same.
Fantastic work, as a biomed student I think in the future im definitely going to conduct research for the BAME community because everyone is entitled to good healthcare
We need that. I’m currently BAME advocate for Mind/NHS and I have been with Sir Michael Marmott on BBC news discussing and raising awareness of health inequalities.
I’ve been living in Portugal since 2019 as a black woman and the service I receive has been 1000x better
My partner was so excited and enthusiastic when he started his job as a doctor at the NHS. But he has been upset due to racism. Some patients don't trust him and some even think that he is a spy because he is Chinese. It kills his enthusiasm. But I'm glad that he still keeps moving forward
Leave him and marry a real man like me 💪🏾
Can't believe patients have the time to think about this while grovelling in the agony of their illness!!
@@maalikserebryakov your online history would disagree,
@@ruizhu8853 my DMs with your wife would not disagree 💪🏾
Good luck to him .
This is great work!!! I studied and qualified in the UK Physiotherapy over 10 yrs ago and there were not as many black physios then. I suffered racism as a student on placements and upon qualifying worked in the nhs and suffered racism from both workmates and patients! I left the nhs and now work for a charity, but recently attended a national physio conference where I experienced racial profiling it’s unbelievable that these people will never change!!! I have vouched never to work for the nhs again it’s sad.
You See ... It Stopped You from Doing the Job You Trained For and from Reaching your Full Potential ... And it is still Happening ...
Very Sad 😥 You probably would have excelled ... Sorry 👍💯💯💪💪
So go home. Nobody is forcing you to stay.
@@brownie100 That is why I call racism a CANCER OF THE MIND! It ends peoples lives. It ends their careers.
May I ask what part of the UK you were in? (From a black woman about to enter physiotherapy studies in London)
I’m a student paediatric nurse and I have very sadly seen many teenagers and parents be racist towards doctors and nurses and even shout racist abuse to them, I honestly don’t understand why people do that.
People do that. Because they are developmentally disabled or ignorant from a poor background in the UK, which you will probably know there are many.
@@jeonlyxoxo many from non-poor backgrounds also
Stupid people just naturally do stupid things.
Loved this!!!!! Having recently experienced a lot of racism in the NHS I really appreciate this video because it is soooo important to bring attention to issues of racism is institutions like the NHS because our lives depend on this. Brilliant work!!!!
The NHS sounds like a scary place and the worst part is we are all obliged to pay for it.
Is this welfare state of ours just breeding more benefits claiming louts who haven't got the common sense to behave with decency towards fellow human beings.
I'll bet you anything that over 99% of this racism comes from patients who are of a certain 'type' (i.e. not the proper Brits).
Incredible documentary revealing the the not-so spoken about realities of the healthcare profession that need to be revealed into in order for progress to be made to make the NHS more all-inclusive, holistically healthy and welcoming for staff. Which will subsequently lead to an overall better NHS experience for all that are involved. Thank you Hashvi & Alysha! All the best as you go into life as a doctor!
This was a very well put together video. Kudos to all those who were part of the making, production and delivery of it. A big yes to raising awareness and speaking out, backed up by facts. Great video
Glad to hear people speaking out.
I have also experience this kind of behaviour on myself and my children.
Thank you so much for this video. I recently experienced negligence AND racism from the NHS. I was at the lowest and most vulnerable point in my life and some of the healthcare assistants there were ......🥴. If it wasn’t for the nurses who, happened to be black, did a phenomenal job in taking care of me! I owe my life to them.
Wacuka reke ngwireeee...nikuuru guku..
Pole sana
Pole sana. I want to do a campaign on this. I'm in the UK too.
So glad this is talked about. I’m doing social work and really want to rise awareness on decolonisation of social work.
Everyday, when I visit my patients, they say “the NHS is going down the river because of the foreigners medical and nursing staff, they don’t know what they are doing”, when I say that I am not British, they apologise saying that I AM DIFFERENT. I am
Not different I AM HUMAN. Discrimination and racism exists in many ways white people like me suffer too, because of my weight, my speech, the way I dress, my culture and also my colour.
Hello..so glad you did this..I am an ex nurse who faced gross discrimination in the hospital I trained and worked in from 1979 till I was suspended and dismissed in 2008 by the very hospital..my final salary was £13 ,000..they denied me equal pay where I lost out on salary of £350,000 in increments..it was heart breaking since there weren't any other Gujarati nurses I could talk to ...I was then sectioned under mental health for 6mths and drugged up for 10yrs. No support from mental health or any other services. I would be grateful if you can put me in touch with any organisation that will support me .
That is terrible. Look online for the contacts of some of the relevant people mentioned here. Email and call them. You should not have been treated like that.
I work in the NHS and I really appreciate this documentary. There needs to be more fairness and equality in the work place
As a Filipino nurse in the UK...I hope we learn to speak out more...
So many lovely, efficient Filipino nurses served me a few years ago that I learned thankyou in their language. ❤
Thanks for putting the video together. We definitely need more awareness and discussions about racism. One just have to be resilient, stand strong. It's annoying because NHS are recruiting staff from abroad and yer they are racist towards the same group of people coming over to support the NHS. Ignorant is a disease. God help us 🙏🏽
I have suffered racism and discrimination from a Nurse in my previous job, weeks before Brexit. I am white, I am brazilian also portuguese, overweight. This nurse on a Night Shift decided to ask me why I came to England, and when I was answering her questions, she started to shout at me saying how disgusted she was to have me in her team, and how disgusted she was for the NHS to contract foreigners to work amongst British workers, and she was waiting the BREXIT to get rid of me and all immigrants that are working for NHS and taken British jobs away from
British people, patients and relatives heard her accusations and I was shocked in silence. A relative saw how petrified I was, and took my hand and asked me to stay with them. The insults in that particular continued until the day she left.
This is horrible...I hope you're ok today? 💜
Listen racism will never go away never..
Am 49 years old, my grandmother is from the Windrush generation, she worked as an enrolled nurse in a hospital in sidcup. She suffered racism she was told by a passenger on a bus going to Orpington after a night shift that ti's bus not going to Peckham. She returned to jamaica and died April 1991. And in 2022 am experiencing the same thing she suffered then. Where is the change..my son was told by his GP that is low HB was normal because he is black.
Oh my God, being told that the bus isn't going to Peckham. That's so terrible. It's the most racist thing I've ever heard. How did your grandmother cope with the dreadful trauma? Did she claim compensation from London Transport?
My dear ♥️ young doctors to be. I thank you for your bravery, however, this is not a new phenomenon.
I have been in the NHS for 40 years and have seen it all.
My child who is a senior doctor has been out of work for over 2 years. Now is a shell of the young confident person we raised.
Years of derogatory and racist remarks metted out on him all these years in medial school and training years finally took its toll.
I have refused to allow them to kill him as their final wish.
I wish you all good luck and if you need a full story of my experience, you are welcome to contact me.
The scourge of racism has eaten deep into the system and I don't know how it can be tackled.
I'm sorry to say that the awareness was always there. How many young people have died from the effects of racism is unknown 🤔
I found my strategy of coping somehow.
The saddest part of ot all is that they set the Asian doctors against black doctors as in colonial mentality.
Goodness me 40 years? This people are nothing but evil human beings! May God strengthen your son.
All the best wishes to your child 🤲🏼❤️
If you can ask your son to listen to the audio of a book called The game of life and how to play by florence shovel shin, it would help him change his perspective. He needs to look past the nastiness of them people. Truth is they show on the outside what they feel about themselves on the inside. That's why you can only love others if you love yourself first. May God bless your son with a speedy recovery and may he prosper to do exactly what he wants to do in life and experience nothing but Love joy peace and happiness. Amen🌹
@@kenyaettahboss4240 Amen 🙏🏿. He is writing a book about it
@@satvinderkaur983 Thank you 😊. I will let him know.
Our lives is sustained by God's Grace.
Brilliant documentary. I'm really shocked by some of the stories, thank you for shining a light on them
This just goes to show that people really need to be made more aware of this major issue. Your reaction tells me that at the very least.
Brilliant work! Very much needed to be seen by many
What an AMAZING documentary!!! So many facts mentioned in this documentary are so relatable. Thank you for the being the mouthpiece for those who cannot speak❤. I'm a new subscriber. Looking forward to watching more content from this channel.
I have been here for 6 months.......this country I am facing racism in all aspects of my life, jobs, interviews, treatment and while traveling.......we people have brains and hearts....they don't have either
I suffered racism from the midwives when I had my son 16 years ago I chose not to have any more children because of the treatment and I dreaded going back. I've used the NHS twice in my life and both times the care was appalling. I would never trust my son being in their care I'm afraid.
Absolutely brilliant documentary, kudos to the creators and courageous participants for speaking out 👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿
Having lived in other countries, racism is an unfortunate fact of life everywhere. However, the fact some of the racism is from people in the medical profession is pretty shocking.
I m a nurse, I was in a ward once and 2 doctors one brown wd come to us (me and a white healthcare assistant), the doctors wd only look at the hca (who hd jst joined in and was new) and talk to her only abt wt needed to be done for tht pt not at me who ws the actual nurse and i ws there looking at them and trying to get involved but ws totally ignored. whether tht ws because the hca was white or simply because she hd a blue scrub top tht day, dnt know but tht did make me feel worthless.
This! 💯
I've experienced this several times too. It's gut wrenching
Everyone must share this across all social media platforms.
Great work.
Thank you Sarah, Nathan and Bella for representing us. Good video.
such a well put together documentary, proud of you guys
Yup. As a pharmacist, I relate and empathize. We need more voices to come out and for things to change
Good video. It's important to note that a lot of ethnicities represented here are commonly known to be collectively racist towards Black people as well as supporting/joining the white power structure in their workplace to enable racism. We have been labelled as BAME, a term which most Black people in the UK dislike as we don't have the same experiences when it comes to living in the UK. However, I am glad the general topic is being investigated and highlighted to the public. It's needed. Racism is never ok.
Well said. Thanks for pointing that out.
When people talk about racism in the UK they talk about anti-black racism. There's backlash against anti-black racism.
Diversity just means another black face. Whether it's a TV advert or billboard or show, the diversity quota appears to be a black face. It's almost like Asians are non-existent even though the population of Asians is higher than blacks in the UK.
The Trinidad young Dr! Keep it up! Let them see you shine all through! You have a choice just like they do! You chose nit ti waste your life... but to be a Dr! Well done!
I suffered that when i was pregnant. I generally ignore small pains and discomft and dnt go to a gp. But when i was with child and had a c section, each appointment i was made feel that because of my ethnicity i am more prone to diseases and we are not the healthiest of genetics etc. in one appointment one student nurse asked me if i am eligible to have a treatment in this country when i have lived her for more then 10 years and my apaper workclearly stated my nationality status. These small things, even after contributing for a decade, i want to go back and raise my child in a country she will not be discriminated.
That racism is a sign of primitivity
I also think it’s because small minded people feel threatened. Racism is always rooted in fear.
Honestly racism will never go away. I like to believe that I have become accustomed to it such that it doesn't really hurt me the way it used to when i was much younger. Why would someone even ask a doctor why he decided to do medicine instead of hospitality? That is beyond me :(
That's what my husband told me .... it will never go it is in them!
@@kenyaettahboss4240 it is in them yes
It hurts a us all. Rather than numbing ourselves to the problem we should try to solve it. Highlighting this evil is the first step towards defeating it.
@@chrisdeep8417 I just don’t let it get to me the way it used to
Very enlightening documentary! And such an important topic.. Props to those who came forward to share their experiences
Thank you for making this brilliant video. It was worth it.👏👏👏
I was on my placement as a student and was been asked to borrow a dressings next door as the ward were I am they run out of stocks. I went to the next ward and asked one of the healthcare assistant, she open the door for me and told me to find it inside, one of the staff came out from the stock room and I greeted her when she came out afterwards she came back and asked me which ward I came from and why I am grabbing stuff without asking permissions, I replied to her I have asked one of the HCA and she told me to find it inside, I am so surprised how she reacted and told me that, the person I asked was just an HCA, and I should have asked someone more senior, I just paused and look at her and she told me about cost and how expenses in the ward. I really thought that we all work as one and that one dressing is not for me it's for our patient.
I faced racism not only from white people, mainly phillapino, Brazilian, and blacks. I thought being coloured myself that I have to only look out for racism from white people. I was wrong big time. I'm faced with it not only because being brown, but for religion purposes as well, I wear scarf. Final year student as a nurse, the university is partly to blame as well as the trust I do my placements with. They passed me on 2 placements in my PAD. 2 months later they gaslighted me and got me to repeat them and I've lost those hours. Which delayed the graduating and I have outstanding hours. They refuse breaks as im diabetic. Tbh I should sue them. I'm so close to the end, and they've put me through F2p twice. I'm thinking is it worth it, all this stress, sleepless nights, depression, binge eating, feeling like this. I don't know how these people actually got to be doctors, nurses and hcs, kitchen staff. I got on with the cleaners, hca and the porter mostly. The doctors and nurses treated me like dirt. Everybody had to learn from somewhere n was a student once, which they tend to forget. Nobody is born with knowledge and skills unless u think your a prophet. I would've been a excellent nurse, but waiting for the outcome. If they prevent me from achieving this qualification and working. Then ill be on benefits looking after my 3yo. I've tried and the hefty student loan is on my back. British born in London, im being treated like this because of my religion tbh. I've completed those placements during covid, risking my life thrown into wards that had staff shortages only to be used, worn out and yet failed. I have made dua and pray that God deals with them appropriately Aameen. Im too old for this game now. It's a sad situation and a depressed one, death can't cure this matter, I'm being positive and hopeful bcs of my little boy.
Racism from black ppl ?! You are reachin’!
@@Motswako yes in the hospital, I generally get on with everybody. Im from South West London, its strange because I grew up here with Asians, blacks. Rarely whites but In my primary school I had 5 white friends. Maybe when your 4yrs old u hardly know the difference between colours religion etc, u just see other little children and play. If only adults just got on with everybody despite anything else. What matters is the patients life. They should work together in proving a service not just in the nhs, everywhere.
@@shazanakhan9807 Asians are racist as hell and you know it and when you are describing Africans why don't you say Africans instead of blacks? Black is a colour not an identity it shows your racism I find Pakistanis racist as hell and very phony yet you love Europeans because u have low self esteem and even Muslims Asians are the most racist of all if anything Africans dont spend their time hating anybody they are hated .
Me too, I’m south East Asian and have also experienced a lot of racism and exclusion from teams of majority African nurses. It’s unbelievable, but it does happen. It’s not white vs everything else, and until people start to understand that, racism will not be resolved.
I also get on well with most people, always told I’m easy to get on with. Yet I face exclusion a lot from the cliques of African nurses who will speak in their own language and laugh at you, acting like they’re better than you. No one is above anyone, treat everyone equally with respect, as you would want to be treated.
@@Motswako not sure if you work in the NHS but but have seen people who have come from Africa, mainly the west are quick to put down other black and brown people! I can only imagine that is because they want to ensure they get in with the white managers.
I am a pharmacist, before graduating I used to work in hospital part time, and while working I saw a lot of racism and even sexism to some level. I did not like the environment and decided that after graduating I wont work in the hospital/NHS.
This is excellent, as a patient from an ethnic minority that doesn't feel safe having NHS treatment, I thank you for this documentary.
Not only NHS, I have been facing racism and discrimination even at warehouse I am working currently. I always feel hurt working in this environment. I am the only Asian inside.
Thank you for bringing this into light.
Thanks for this video more of this documentary is needed.
I started working with nhs newly the racism is on another level,
The first month in their I nearly run away but I have to stand tall to be who I am.
Some people run away cos of bully racism in Nhs.
I think we need more supportive bodies and be included in policy making.
If you do this with nurses, the horrors we face will be unbelievable
Yes, I can only imagine the stories you have. I know Nurses get abused even aside from racism. ♥️
@@clairee4939 apart from racism and exclusion from colleagues I haven't been abused in any way and I have worked in the NHS for 7 years.
This is part of the problem, always splintering to say oh nurses have it worse, then HCA's have it even worse than Nurses and then nothing gets done. Why not put a united front and say yh things need to improve, no-one is stopping you putting a video up on Nurses
@@sreddi83 if you read my comment properly, I didn't say that one has it worse than the other, I said nurses have horror stories because that's what i know and have experienced, it is not easy to do a video like this and get people willing to come out and speak candidly because of fear of repercussions and if you are not known, the possibility of gaining traction for your story is very low.
@@afrikanmamaput3575 there is a “nurses” video.
Look up “racism and the pandemic”
Thank you for creating this, this will resonate with a lot of people who cannot share their true experience due to backlash.
If all the migrants walk out of the NHS they would vanish and become dysfunctional. People don't appreciate the hard work and years of education this people do . I wanted to study health care but this actually make me consider this field. 😔
Nothing going to change….NOTHING
Really interesting and quite difficult watching, well done for bringing this perspective to the general public's domain, I hope many people learn from it. I know I will!
Enlightening and at the same time, alarming and depressing. Abuse and disrespect should not be tolerated in a civilized society.
Well presented video. Thank you for bringing this to the forefront of the NHS
I experienced it today . They ignore you even if you work hard and take care of the patients.
Plenty of my personal experiences at NHS. Not everybody is racist, but definitely racism is there. Sometimes racism and discrimination is done in clever way which is hard to prove. There is threatening environment, exposing such discrimination may end up with revenge or back stabbing.
Exactly! It's very subtle and hard to prove as you said. So you just end up leaving. 😕
It exists
It is about time some people have finally started to speak out about it. For years it appeared to only West Indians and Black British, that faced it or spoke out against it.
Report it and never tolerate it. We are here to support each other and we are not the problem. Some of those universities mentioned also have issues with racism to.
This country is riddled with it, it is subtle and sadly I believe it will always be in the fabric of the UK and other European countries.
It is a mindset, they consider themselves better than others. No workshop is going to work.
Racists are experiencing mental health issues.
The British Medical Association has it's findings being shown throughout this short documentary but the BMA is just stating the problems and evidence of them statistically but what are they actually doing and what are the tangible positive outcomes?
We need more of these documentaries. Thank you
Working in NHS is all about if your face fit and being part of the clique
So True!
So so true
Not just in the NHS. I have worked for the NHS and the private sector it's all the same everywhere.
Unfortuately is like that everywhere
I agree with you so true
This racism is so real in the NHS UK
It damn sucks!!
Sickening. Things need to change.
Thank you for this incredible documentary,
Please show this on a television documentary!!!!!!!!!!
Can we also talk about the attitude of nursing staff specifically towards international medical graduates /junior doctors??? If racism is 100% I feel 70% comes from the nursing staff, especially if you are someone with an accent.
You are right Rosey...I have developed a thick skin....I was broken but after 5 years, I do my job and move on....I owe it to God, my patients and myself to above all do no harm....God bless us all....
@@adebisiadeyemi8950 that's true.. but moving on doesn't help anyone. I feel gor the new graduates who come to work in a hospital after so many years of aspiration only to be spoken to like they are shit and undeserving somehow. We need to change the system! Allah tells us to fight against oppression and this is oppressive behaviour.
@@trextor23
My darlyn...I am an IMG, A Consultant back home in Africa who picked up a specialty Registrar job here in the Uk, and really I went through hell, things are just getting better....I was not born and bred in the Uk, and I am only just knowing the system...I have complained a few times, but many atimes I pay more attention to more important things in my life....But we shall keep forging ahead, may God continue to help us....
Yep
Important video, well done indeed!
Simply brilliant!!!!
An important documentary. Thank you for making it and sharing it.
Iam glad you talking about this NHS.
Racism still exists and have felt it deeply .There is no use in opening up as its not from one race but whoever is loud with power and whoever is a majority nationality in your workplace as they are well protected by others.
My white dental sister strategically had us alone in the kids ward. I was 17 at the time. And this woman asks me about my home life, asks me who I live with. Knowing what she’s hinting to I say “my Mum, brother, cat and my Dad”. I said Dad last. She stopped what she doing and stared at me and said “Dad? You have a - he lives with you?”. I was like “yes I have a Dad, it takes two people to make a baby Liz”. Silly cow.
I was even told by an emergency patient in 1979, his exact words "I ain't having no needle from a Paki Doctor". You would know how I felt. When he was told by surgeon (white by the way) you will die if you didn’t have the surgery, so he agreed. I thought what would happen if I missed the vein. With a shaking hand I put it, lucky him or indeed me I didn't miss the vein. What if?
The company I work for needs to watch this documentary, it's disgusting how company's enable patients and even their families to treat staff. I am still till today been discrimated against " I can't work with you.. where is so , so and so🙄🙄". You get fed up at some point and I feel really attacked and belittled all the time .
This must stop around the world, we are all humans and we are all the same in front of GOD, stop racism
I feel sad this still happen in this century I us to be a care worker and know exactly what they felt. I us to treat end of life dementia patients and cancer patients, sometimes I came across patients didn't want me to touch them....is sad and frustrating 😪
It's called institutional racism. Affects overseas doctors and nurses mostly. If you're an Indian staff you automatically have an invisible label over your forehead as "lazy" and "incompetent" unless you put in 110 % and beyond while the "others" work at average or subaverage capacity. That's black or ethnic tax for you. It means being African, asian or of ethnic origin you have to put in well over the 100%. However the same white staff would just need to be average or even slightly sub standard to be accepted into say training programmes, promotions, jobs etc. One training programme in a particular hospital back in 2004/2005 I know would need overseas graduates with UK experience and qualifying exams to also have the first part of the membership exams to get into a junior specialist training programme so " it proves their commitment". Are they saying ethnic doctors aren't commited so have to prove this but caucasian doctors are automatically committed ? However for the locals - majority whom were caucasians and less than competent and eventually would flunk out of the same training programme without passing their membership exams and go on to do something else, were easily allowed in to this prized training programme. They were allowed in without the first part of their membership exam. No doubt there would be other NHS trusts all across the country with simililar practices which should be deemed questionable now as it implies competent overseas qualified doctors are considered second class citizens in the NHS. You are unworthy until you prove yourself to be worthy and caucasian staff are automatically worthy. I know one junior doctor who was told that there wasn't much use in them as an asian doctor to apply for specialty training like in cardiology/respiratory because most asian doctors only get chosen to do something like geriatrics as a specialty. Although I don't think the new timers are not going to be as audacious as some of the old timers, it still goes on in the NHS silently. Those whom I know of in general practice will often tell you how patients in some areas will treat the asian or ethnic doctor diffrently to a caucasian doctor. This even extends into the actors who play mock patients who attend the GP membership exams. Nobody talks about how they contribute to the previously noticed disparity in pass rates between asian/ oversease and caucasian doctors. Often the examiners are blamed for showing partiality. However feedback needs to be obtained about the experience from the doctors taking the exam about the mock patient actors - I think one would obtain some interesting insights. Then watch your GP surgeries. See how many asian or ethnic doctors work in a perdominantly caucasian doctored GP practices. Even if an asian or ethnic doctor is brought in as a staff at the practice, watch how many stay in these practices. There is no burying of one's head under the sand about the prejudice against ethnic staff in the NHS especially highlighted by the Covid pandemic. It was appalling how I was told by doctor & nursing friends in hospital how so many asian, african and ethnic doctors and nursing staff were predominantly automatically put in the frontline areas and Covid wards instead of the majority white clinical staff dispatched to "other" areas especially around the time our hospitals didn't have PPEs. The ethnic clinical staff were sent like lambs to the slaughter. I will also say for every one of those racist doctors, nurses or managers there are also ethical & supportive caucasian doctors who become a witness & know the reality of what is happening to a colleague and can be an astonishingly supportive in standing up against such behaviour towards their colleague or subordinate who is being unjustly treated.
In my day nursing was a profession/vocation .1974 ...Now just a job not for all but most. Sadly.
Alas, as a member of the public ,I agree ,. Standards of patient/doctor relationships have sunk to an all time low .The number of times I’ve heard people say , “that was a waste of time “ seems pills are the answer to most health issues these days
Btw racism is in every country. Just because people of other color mostly move to the developed countries that are white so we think that there is more racism. Wihin religion there is discrimination. Think what I am trying to say. I am not a white but brown person. I have seen people discriminate you if you don’t speak the same language or don’t come from the same culture.
As a black woman I have experienced racism and neglect from white and Asian doctors, nurses and hospital staff. Let's be entirely honest about racism in the NHS for black people..
Sis Asian are more racist and hateful towards to black people than the white.
As an Asian nurse, I have experienced racism from large numbers of African nurses, let’s be honest about racism in the NHS. It’s not just about one race vs the rest, it’s between races
@@Maz11296
you are trying to protect yourself from a truth that is too painful for you to accept the reality.
Asian are racist towards black people and that not a questionable questionable.
Even the Asian living in African countries are hateful.
You are so right the Asian people are the most racist people I have come across they do forget at times that they are people of colour too only when the white people show racism to them then they remember who they are and I think they are quite shocked what you like for yourself you should promote that for others but they don’t they are the most judgemental people every
@@Maz11296 exactly
All talks and no actions, the question is what is being done to resolve the situation?
Completely and utterly shocked by this . Saddened to the core 🥲
I personally was left in a wheelchair in Barnet hospital after hours of having a lumbar spine surgery and couldn't physically walk. This person was East Asian, and I have never had an issue with the NHS until that time I was really traumatized until this moment. My treatment is still ongoing but I'm scared to continue treatment. It was a terrible experience
This is not an attack on any races of people, after that experience I really don't know what to think 🤔🤔🤔
My next door women who's work from NHS nurse, she also racism us because we are Chinese. When we first day moved in we said hello with her she never said hello. I knew she don't like us because the colour skin. She spoke to everyone accept us. This happen not only at hospital, I never meet the neighbours liked this before.
Wow 😮 but Yes in all aspects of the BAME's life these type of things affect from walking, shopping, at work, driving, school, the way you talk, the way you dress, etc ...
Very Very Interesting very good video ... 👍👍💯💯🔥🔥
People will talk about it but still nothing has been done about it sometimes patients and relatives will use their illness as an excuse for being racist when your foreign you always got the stigma of being a second class citizen and at work it’s whom you know not what you know specifically if your foreign I was told by my colleagues that I need to have a thick skin and just let things go over my head but to experience racism it’s a hurtful feeling specially when you know deep inside you that that your a good person and very good with my job and all you want is to serve and help your patients and the rest.
I went through it numerous times.
I kept recording everything secretly and shared with friends abroad so that if something happened to me, it would be another George Floyd revolution.
I survived but still not free.
Thank you for this documentary it was very highlighting. I am about to join the NHS very soon and I am hoping that I don't have to face anything like the experience this documentary as highlighted. Yes I have faced racism in my life but it's nothing light what was mentioned in the documentary. I hope that the racist policies have been put in place and that professionals bodies and the public of a ethnic minority group don't have to face such behaviour from their own white counterparts or the public. Why can't they be announcements made to the professional bodies and the public on the type of behaviour that is expected of everyone who occupy or use these services and also reinforce the consequences of their actions if they fail to comply to these policies.
Before i join NHS BORDER general hospital my friends from England told me that they have faced rasicm in England hospital. But i haven't treated so. All the staff from NHS border and people in Scottish border were so kind, polite and equally treated. 💗💗💗
I am so happy that people are speaking about it.. this is powerful in itself. But let me bring something to light that in my own country ( I am not working in the uk ) me my spouse both being doctors have been discriminated and harassed and it's depressing because it's not being addressed to.. I was harassed in my pregnancy too and I couldn't do anything because they were the people with power and were aware of the same.