SHOULD LILIAC FOCUS ON A CONSISTANT BAND IMAGE OR IS THEIR EVER CHANGING IMAGE REFRESHING?
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I really enjoy Liliac playing with their aesthetic as they evolve their music, it really works for me. I do understand your question about whether it works for mass marketing. Don’t know (and don’t care!); all I know is that I have not loved a band as much as Liliac since my youth.
Love this band couldn't care less what they look like it's all about the music
It is once your into the band but visuals are an important part of grabbing your attention when scrolling and makes you click on the band, if the band stylises in the right way they can gain more traction and attention and get more interest. I agree that music is the most important but the visuals do have a part to play when promoting. Same as when you eat food, its all about the flavour but if it doesnt look appealing your unlikely to try it and you will miss out.
If I judged bands by their looks I would have never listened to twisted sister. It was the music that drew me in
@@kennethwoodbeck9055 i understan the premise however back when twisted sister came out the reliance was on rock radio ec so you generally heard a band before you saw them. Now with todays technology and socials you tend to see a band before you hear them and that is where the challenge for a group now comes frm. You have to be interesting enough so that people are going to click on your picture or icon to find out more, then the music takes over.
They change thier look to the theme of thier tour. They don't want to have the same style look on thier videos and tour.
Their look depends on the song they are doing . It's all about the song . They dress neutral for their shows useing certain props for the song they go with .
Does it show a lack of commitment or thought behind the image or is it a clever forward thinking plan. My impression is a band trying different things to see what takes or feels right on the moment without thinking what it means for 12 months time or beyond
I know some people feel that it means they lack an identity, but I disagree. They play such a huge variety, and apparently plan to continue with that track, that a variety of costumes goes hand in hand with it. Think about it. The difference between Sail Away or Somber Cry and Madness is striking, and they play everything in between as well. It's similar even with their covers. There are light years between Master of Puppets or Symphony of Destruction and Piece of My Heart, right? But I don't think they're likely to throw any of those overboard anytime soon. Their identity is variety and surprise, and I think that's likely to continue. I know it annoys some folks that they won't just commit to being Dio 2.0 or something, but I personally like thinking "Holy crap, that was awesome! I wonder what rabbit they're pulling out of the hat next!"
They're very creative I think it's brilliant they change every album and every tour ever changing and growing "Rise Up" is apocalyptic btw... Their fans love anything they do. Self projecting a comfort zone is why people have trouble with change. The world needs more of LILIAC I mean you don't see Taylor Swift or many others sticking to the same theme they change per tour 🤷
@@lisawilliamslakelover0396 Taylor is a good example, even though her productions don't probably vary as much as Liliac's. People seem to forget that she started out as a country singer and when a few of her tunes crossed over to the pop charts, she leaped genres.
@@tomdodds8091 Although she is not static, Taylor has a much better defined perspective as a songwriter than does Liliac
@@DavidBerne-nx8uy Agreed, but I think part of that is due to youth (write what you know, and they simply don't know that much yet). The other part is back to what I said before. They have a very eclectic catalog and that, in and of itself, isn't a bad thing but it does sort of defy pigeon holing.
Taking a cue from the great Freddy. Just think if he stayed to 1 style. Really don't care about looks as much as talent.
I think the difference is Freddy's style was always his own. Whereas Liliac's style is always borrowed from others.
As a constantly evolving band, liliac is always changing and keeping themselves fresh while finding their unique style and voice.
I don't called releasing a tribute type cover as constantly evolving
@@michealridgway7607They cut their teeth on doing awesome covers and it built them a hell of a following. Just because they still like playing some of the classic hits and a lot of the fangs enjoy hearing them (so they continue) doesn't mean they're not evolving. They just remember where they came from and still throw a few bones to the folks who enjoy their takes on some OG rock and roll. Going from Dear Father to Sail Away to Madness isn't exactly sitting in a rut.
Remember they are independed so they have to as you say throw a bone some time to keep the inteerrest.
Liliac changes their outfits to fit the theme, so white stripes when they did Seven Nation Army, camo for The Trooper, mystical for their original Mystery, carnival for Carousel, Goth for Holy Diver, etc. I enjoy the changes in style to match the song. Needless to say, when they’re touring they stick to one theme to match their current album. Abby took time off because she was preparing for her wedding, the actual wedding and getting settled into her new home. If someone actually follows the band they do post announcements regarding substitute drummers. For instance Abby posted that Paul, a young drummer will be filling in for her at the beginning of their tour, which is quite lengthy this year because they’re literally playing coast to coast, and that she’ll be rejoining the band in the summer. Understandable since she’s a newlywed. People came unglued when Melos and Sam cut their hair. The hair was donated to a charity that makes wigs for children who have lost theirs due to chemotherapy or other treatments. Melody is growing hers back, Sam seems to like having shorter hair, it probably makes it easier to play guitar, especially the solos.
BTW;; Hops Metal Show just did a backstage interview with Liliac...maybe YOU should go and watch that? Unless you are too wrapped up in the warning?
Like them or leave don’t think anyone cares what you think!
We, a group of friends, listened to rock when we were 40 years old. When I made them listen to the w, they told me only one more group, there are thousands, nothing special like that. When they heard melody, everyone was surprised and said who is that woman? That's something unique, so she can wear whatever she wants. Your voice is what is important, popularity says nothing about talent and that is the difference
i´m not visual with them - the music is the counting factor! they an do no wrong in my opinion!
dad liliac is angry with you he is right watch his video
Honestly, they need to spend more time on their songwriting and not worry so much about image.
Again..zero clue as to what is going on..
The challenge for Liliac, if I may say, is not visual identity. They lack a musical identity once they go beyond cover songs. Obviously, Melody's voice and Sam's guitar solos are consistent elements. But with one or two exceptions, the songwriting does not standout. It is derivative and searching for something to say. Contrast that to The Warning who have always had a sense of who they are and what they want to express--even as they evolve. Liliac would be well-served bringing in an outside producer to expand their horizons
Contrast to a band that is STILL doing covers? Liliac does have a second Producer...and is listed as such...Melody Cristea. Go back to your Jail-Bait band...
@@ket0_t0ne39 Melody is not an outside producer. How will the band grow without broadening their horizons? It would do them good. But go ahead, make excuses and keep holding Liliac back
The Warning has only one cover in their set and it is a radically redone version of the original. It is also the first song on Metallica's Blacklist album. They have not put another cover up on UA-cam in 7 years. Their fanbase only looks to them for originals, while Liliac still gets many more views on and is known for covers. That is one reason The Warning has 20x more Patreons than Liliac.
@@martinheidegger5392 And UA-cam subscriptions.
January 21, 2023: The Warning 498,000. Liliac 493,000
February 24, 2024: The Warning 677,00. Liliac 527,000.
UA-cam views
January 21, 2023: The Warning 104 million. Liliac 112 million.
February 24, 2024; The Warning 149 million. Liliac 126 million.
Future projections have The Warning cracking the million subscriber mark in 14 months.
Liliac is expected to reach that mark in 40 months. Projected UA-cam views 40 months from now are Liliac 275 million and The Warning 590 million.
That’s some pretty brutal math and is an indication of where each band is headed in the future.
@@martinheidegger5392 Here’s another metric. As of today, The Warning 684K UA-cam subscribers vs Liliac’s 528K. Same for UA-cam views: The Warning 151 million. Liliac 127 million. New monthly subscribers: The Warning 18-22K. Liliac 2-3K.
Future UA-cam projections show The Warning cracking the one million mark 13 months from now. Liliac 38 months. When Liliac breaks the one million mark, UA-cam views are projected to be 281 million. The Warning 577 million. The Warning will also have 2.3 million subscribers.
Looks like original content wins out easily. All the projections are taken from Social Blade.
Does it even matter?
And that's why Liliac is so good!Just look the metal bands from beginning.Everyone of them had different styles in their carriers.Liliac learn from the best.And they have much better songs than Warning!
You know they were blackballed for 2 years because of Melodies mouth. They played nothing bigger then a county a fair She finally said she was sorry and now they have been getting better booking. Between her fathers rantings and her mouth they are going nowhere
Usual Warning Troll BS....They do have a NEW Booking Company, though....but, they were NEVER "Blackballed" from anywhere, ever. Grow the F up...IF you mom will allow it, that is...
But Warning always sound and look same from the beginning.
They have matured their look and you can see that in their videos. They are still growing. Very different bands. Liliac are more theatrical and the warning are a more straight up rock band
You are comparing apples to oranges. They are two completely different bands doing completely different things. How can you say one bands art is better than the others.
Sorry. No comparison. Totally different bands on totally different levels. Liliac tours mainly in the U.S. The Warning is more of an international band playing more than 100 shows a year in North America, Europe, South America, and there’s talk of adding Asia and Australia to the schedule.
@@rockrap6240Usual BS...and totally WRONG..get your so-called "facts" correct before you touch the keyboard ever again.
@@ket0_t0ne39 Gotta admit, you are always good for a laugh. Just curious, what facts did I get wrong?
Liliac plays their shows in the U.S. That’s a fact, right? They play about half the shows The Warning plays. That’s a fact, right?
The Warning is an international band. That’s a fact. They will play around 100 shows in North America, Europe and South America. That too is a fact.
Choose any metric you want, the fact is The Warning is on a higher level. I could recite facts all day long proving my point.
You best get your facts straight before you touch your keyboard ever again. LOL!
Visual image is important. But Liliac overemphasizes it. I have never seen a band take so many posing pictures.
Really? Ever seen Guns & Roses...doubt it...LA Guns? Maybe not....Motley Crue? ...methinks you have either a very short memory..or just don't get out much...
Liliac has never had a clear artistic vision-other than copying Dio and 80's metal bands. So they try and compensate with image. And they keep trying different ones on for size. This is not surprising given it is mainly their father's band and he is more focused on success than artistry.
The only problem with your statement is the band decides what they want to do , not their father . They have a very clear idea of what they want to do . But since you've probably never had a band or know what's involved you're statement is somewhat understandable .
I have been in several bands and im currently setting up for an album launch next month. We discuss our plans and the image on a regular basis. Funnily enough the rest of the band go off on tangents sometimes and i have to ull them back in to ensure that everythign we do works within the ideals and concept of the band.
I just realised you were responding to someone elses comment... apologies.
One band...same old, same old..boring....another band..always looking "different" just depends on the TYPE of song they happened to be playing. Even The Beatles changed their looks as they went...so, unless YOU like cookie cutter bands, playing cookie cutter songs that sound the same as most other bands...I guess the way one dresses would be the only way that the first band would stand out in a crowded room of other bands...cuts down on Wardrobe costs, doesn't it....
Of course, IF your thing is 3 scantily clad young girls running around on stage......
Here’s the diff, pal. One band is well respected by their peers for its music, professionalism, stage acumen, etc.That’s why the band tours with or opens for many of the biggest name bands in the world.
That band you love to hate will be on its second world tour beginning in April. They’ll spend more than two months in Europe with headlining concerts and appearances at many rock/metal festivals, including the prestigious Wacken Open Air in Germany and Pol,and,Rock in Poland. By the way, that band has the main stage at Pol,and,Rock and will play to a crowd of 250,000. The band will also be announcing a host of tour dates and festivals in North and South America. It’s also rumored Asia and Australia are in the works for 2025.
Now that other band will traipse across the U.S. playing maybe 40-50 shows, mainly in small venues to small crowds. That’s okay. You play to your abilities. And they do dress kinda goofy. That pretty sums it up.
No need to name names. We all know who’s who, don’t we. And since you addressed looks, it’s plainly obvious one band was clearly at the head of the line when it comes to the gene pool. Now, what flavor cookie would you like?