Here's the thing, I think all 4 survivors should've been in therapy. They all just avoided their issues stemming from the crash. Meredith has never properly dealt with losing her sister and she still freaks out on planes. Cristina just fled, hoping somewhere else would solve her problems. She and Meredith were the only ones who were able to move around and weren't 'seriously' injured, but a week freezing and starving in the woods is still a week. Derek put all of his focus into fixing his hand and the lawsuit. Arizona fixated on her leg, which is traumatic in itself and people who lose limbs usually go to therapy. But that plane crash fundamentally changed all of their lives and none of them have been the exact same since.
Arizona & Callie's problems go way back before the plane crash. Arizona not wanting kids broke them up the first time. Then Arizona leaving for Africa, Callie screwing Mark the whole time and getting pregnant, they get right back together and never addressed their problems. They got married, things seemed to be smooth - until the plane crash. Callie never should have promised Arizona she wouldn't let anyone cut off her leg. She should have reasoned doctor to doctor, instead of making a promise she knew she couldn't keep. If Arizona had known who made the cut, maybe she wouldn't have cheated. Maybe she would have .... who knows. These two needed to fall apart and stay apart, so that when they do come back to each other (and I believe they will) they'll be different people than they were before. Their time is coming ..... just have faith!
Everybody said callie selfish always want what she want.. I don't think so after watching this scene. I think Callie really thoughtful and always care for arizona. After plane crash she still on arizona side never left her and then she find out arizona cheating she forgive her.. They both make mistakes but at the and they always care and support each other.. At Season 12 I just dont know why everybody hate callie that much.. I missed them and I want them back together..
I don't think it's a law, just a hospital policy. If there was literally no one else who could do it and it was a life or death emergency, they would probably allow it.
shonda interupt us bringing out the plane crash in the hospital so we forget where derek is and eventually shonda killing him at the moment... fucking genius lol
PTSD is a very strong thing. When my Grandfather came back to the states after Vietnam he wouldn't talk to my Grandmother. She reminded him of the reason why he went into the Marines. He wanted to protect her. He was shot and almost died and when he came home all my grandmother wanted to do was hug him and tell him that everything was going to be okay but he pushed her away. They went to therapy and slowly things got better. PTSD takes time and it really screws people up. He is almost 70 now and when he hears a helicopter he cries or panics. But my grandmother hasn't left his side she can't because he went to a war to keep her and millions of others safe.
This sounds so messed up but I really hope something like life threatening happens to one of them (preferably Arizona, since she's the one who was asked for a divorce) and the other (Callie) realises just how much she loves her... I NEED CALZONA IN MY LIFE
I Review I know, sorry I didn't explain it very clearly above. I meant she was the one who got asked for a divorce (by Callie). Meaning it was Callie who wanted to move on, and therefore I feel we should see Callie wanting Arizona back instead of just these unreciprocated feelings Arizona has for her. Hope that clears things up!!
+Siobhan Hawes I understand your perspective. But two things, firstly, the problem is beyond just who asked for the divorce first and who can reconcile. It roots back to the aftermath of plane crash and Arizona's change in personality after that. Secondly, the writers need a loophole to make one relationship die and introduce new characters that needs relevance with the plot. Derek wanted to leave. Hence Penny had to be introduced as Callie's girlfriend and one of Derek's doctors because it created massive dynamics between characters who are friends of Callie. This gives storyline, challenges and scope for the other characters to grow. No one has been able to see the way Callie and Penny progress through the one year. They are in a serious relationship now but no one feels the chemistry because the screentime shared is very less. I just wish they could work to make Penny- Callie more likable because the way I see it, she isn't going anywhere soon and has been getting good character development at the professional and personal front one episode after the other.
Something life threatening??? An airplane falling on Arizona's leg isn't life threatening enough?? Callie literally going through a windshield isn't life threatening enough? Hell if those things didn't do it nothing will!!
It's been about a year since 11x05 where they split and still now in s12 they're making Calzona references... I have to hope they would have stopped a long time ago if they weren't going to get back together!
I believe they both made mistakes but I really want them back together. I hope Calli takes her back. I'm concerned the way it's going they may never be calzona again. 😭
Callie : €@@&& Karev Arizona: No te enojes con el C: No debía decirte A: Porque lo hiciste?...no decirme sobre la pierna C: Yo tome la desicion ...no importaba q no hice l corte, yo tome la desicion...no hace la diferencia ...sabía q te enojarías , así q cubrí a alex, para q sólo te enojarás conmigo, para q tuvieras a alguien ... A: .... Gracias.... Más o menos es el diálogo . Es una gran escena aunque no entiendo porque arizona piensa q Callie corto su pierna si era su esposa y demás...
Here's the thing, I think all 4 survivors should've been in therapy. They all just avoided their issues stemming from the crash. Meredith has never properly dealt with losing her sister and she still freaks out on planes. Cristina just fled, hoping somewhere else would solve her problems. She and Meredith were the only ones who were able to move around and weren't 'seriously' injured, but a week freezing and starving in the woods is still a week. Derek put all of his focus into fixing his hand and the lawsuit. Arizona fixated on her leg, which is traumatic in itself and people who lose limbs usually go to therapy. But that plane crash fundamentally changed all of their lives and none of them have been the exact same since.
Arizona & Callie's problems go way back before the plane crash. Arizona not wanting kids broke them up the first time. Then Arizona leaving for Africa, Callie screwing Mark the whole time and getting pregnant, they get right back together and never addressed their problems. They got married, things seemed to be smooth - until the plane crash. Callie never should have promised Arizona she wouldn't let anyone cut off her leg. She should have reasoned doctor to doctor, instead of making a promise she knew she couldn't keep. If Arizona had known who made the cut, maybe she wouldn't have cheated. Maybe she would have .... who knows. These two needed to fall apart and stay apart, so that when they do come back to each other (and I believe they will) they'll be different people than they were before. Their time is coming ..... just have faith!
It never came, sadly... though Arizona left for NY with an open thread to their story💔
MsJourneyfan well you were right about one thing. They came back together even though that’s no longer in the series.
I agree with youuu
callie is an angel
Everybody said callie selfish always want what she want.. I don't think so after watching this scene. I think Callie really thoughtful and always care for arizona. After plane crash she still on arizona side never left her and then she find out arizona cheating she forgive her.. They both make mistakes but at the and they always care and support each other.. At Season 12 I just dont know why everybody hate callie that much.. I missed them and I want them back together..
The fact that in this episode Callie told her not to worry and she was going to be ok and he was going to ok and the bang he DEAD
It probably should’ve dawned on her earlier that Callie isn’t the one who cut it off. Spouses aren’t legally allowed to operate on each other.
@Tori Ouendag I meant family isn’t supposed to operate on each other
I don't think it's a law, just a hospital policy. If there was literally no one else who could do it and it was a life or death emergency, they would probably allow it.
shonda interupt us bringing out the plane crash in the hospital so we forget where derek is and eventually shonda killing him at the moment... fucking genius lol
Awww what a great scene. I believe Callie was good to Arizona. Arizona on the other hand not so good.
PTSD is a very strong thing. When my Grandfather came back to the states after Vietnam he wouldn't talk to my Grandmother. She reminded him of the reason why he went into the Marines. He wanted to protect her. He was shot and almost died and when he came home all my grandmother wanted to do was hug him and tell him that everything was going to be okay but he pushed her away. They went to therapy and slowly things got better. PTSD takes time and it really screws people up. He is almost 70 now and when he hears a helicopter he cries or panics. But my grandmother hasn't left his side she can't because he went to a war to keep her and millions of others safe.
I think they are both good to each other most of the time..
This sounds so messed up but I really hope something like life threatening happens to one of them (preferably Arizona, since she's the one who was asked for a divorce) and the other (Callie) realises just how much she loves her... I NEED CALZONA IN MY LIFE
Callie asked for a divorce. Not Arizona.
I Review I know, sorry I didn't explain it very clearly above. I meant she was the one who got asked for a divorce (by Callie). Meaning it was Callie who wanted to move on, and therefore I feel we should see Callie wanting Arizona back instead of just these unreciprocated feelings Arizona has for her. Hope that clears things up!!
+Siobhan Hawes I understand your perspective. But two things, firstly, the problem is beyond just who asked for the divorce first and who can reconcile. It roots back to the aftermath of plane crash and Arizona's change in personality after that.
Secondly, the writers need a loophole to make one relationship die and introduce new characters that needs relevance with the plot. Derek wanted to leave. Hence Penny had to be introduced as Callie's girlfriend and one of Derek's doctors because it created massive dynamics between characters who are friends of Callie. This gives storyline, challenges and scope for the other characters to grow.
No one has been able to see the way Callie and Penny progress through the one year. They are in a serious relationship now but no one feels the chemistry because the screentime shared is very less. I just wish they could work to make Penny- Callie more likable because the way I see it, she isn't going anywhere soon and has been getting good character development at the professional and personal front one episode after the other.
Something life threatening??? An airplane falling on Arizona's leg isn't life threatening enough?? Callie literally going through a windshield isn't life threatening enough? Hell if those things didn't do it nothing will!!
I'm screaming, sobbing, vomiting blood, this hurts like hell
It's been about a year since 11x05 where they split and still now in s12 they're making Calzona references... I have to hope they would have stopped a long time ago if they weren't going to get back together!
Callie ❤️
I believe they both made mistakes but I really want them back together. I hope Calli takes her back. I'm concerned the way it's going they may never be calzona again. 😭
They should of remembered this moment when fighting over sofia
Do you still upload doccubus scenes? Please do this upcoming 5x09.
Still think Callie should be with cop
me too
Alguien que lo pueda traducir a español? 😓 please.!
Callie : €@@&& Karev
Arizona: No te enojes con el
C: No debía decirte
A: Porque lo hiciste?...no decirme sobre la pierna
C: Yo tome la desicion ...no importaba q no hice l corte, yo tome la desicion...no hace la diferencia ...sabía q te enojarías , así q cubrí a alex, para q sólo te enojarás conmigo, para q tuvieras a alguien ...
A: .... Gracias....
Más o menos es el diálogo . Es una gran escena aunque no entiendo porque arizona piensa q Callie corto su pierna si era su esposa y demás...
This is like all the other soaps they put couples together they break them up again won't be watching season 20