Magic TV Top 8 of the Week: Format Breakers

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
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    Tristan Shaun Gregson sits down with Luis Scott-Vargas in this week's Top 8 episode from the "Magic TV" series.

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  • @redfeildre349
    @redfeildre349 9 років тому +21

    If you have not done it yet, you should do a top 8 changes to magic the gathering. I'm thinking things like the removal of manna burn, the banning of banding, the change in the legendary rule, ect. I'd like to see that.

    • @dkres82
      @dkres82 8 років тому +3

      they've done top 8 rules changes actually

    • @47Mortuus
      @47Mortuus 7 років тому

      aswell as top 8 magic shake ups in history... duh

  • @twitchster77
    @twitchster77 12 років тому +2

    #8.) 01:18 Countertop (counterbalance/sensei's divining top)
    #7.) 03:37 Seismic Swans (swans of bryn argoll/seismic assault)
    #6.) 05:38 Dragonstorm
    #5.) 07:03 Flash Hulk (protean hulk/flash)
    #4.) 08:27 Elves
    #3.) 10:30 Dredge
    #2.) 11:56 Dark Depths (dark depths/vampire hexmage)
    #1.) 14:48 Caw-Blade (stoneforge mystic/squadron hawk)

  • @47Mortuus
    @47Mortuus 7 років тому +2

    2:25 TSG drifting away
    2:49 "blah blah top 8 blah" HOLY... THE WORLD STILL NEEDS ME

  • @halfe8128
    @halfe8128 9 років тому +50

    HAHAHAHA $12 Tibalt, but $8 Karn.

    • @imortalimp01
      @imortalimp01 9 років тому +8

      +Jayfeather Y.T. $15 liliana of the veil...

    • @Kakerate2
      @Kakerate2 8 років тому +7

      +C3lley Gaming lol, i can't believe a playset of Tibalts was $50 at one point.

  • @IbrakadabraRules
    @IbrakadabraRules 10 років тому +8

    mental misstep broke legacy.... not let one deck become op.... just every deck played that card... even goblins...

  • @TheCabIe
    @TheCabIe 12 років тому

    I love how LSV and Cheon used to be the rogue guys trying to beat the format. All those stories are so awesome

  • @willuda7098
    @willuda7098 8 років тому +5

    Tropical island and tundra at 70$, I'm crying a little bit right now

    • @hepatitis123
      @hepatitis123 8 років тому +1

      That's the buy list price. Only what they'll pay you for it, not what you would pay for it.

    • @pedrobenz4328
      @pedrobenz4328 8 років тому +1

      still, a world i'd like to live in

  • @themanwiththepan
    @themanwiththepan 12 років тому

    Channelfireball should include this in their description.

  • @jaredvargas5785
    @jaredvargas5785 8 років тому +13

    Ah, yes format breaks. PT OGW. Bam.

  • @Lindeman08
    @Lindeman08 12 років тому

    Seismic Swans. That gives me sweet memories. Played against some of those back in a nationals qualifier in -08. They just straight up lost to my Sudden Deaths.

  • @frasert8779
    @frasert8779 4 роки тому

    Didn’t Shota initiate the Cawblade deck? Or no?

  • @Derret134
    @Derret134 9 років тому +3

    Mox Opal 8$ good old times...

  • @Marclivis
    @Marclivis 11 років тому +2

    god I miss these :(

  • @mercenarybdu
    @mercenarybdu 12 років тому

    That's GP Columbus 2007 actually when GP Flash happened. That's the GP where Zac Hill made a name for himself with Owen and many other names.

  • @MaligD
    @MaligD 12 років тому

    I would like to see thoughts on the Peasant/Pauper format.

  • @DylanSon2
    @DylanSon2 12 років тому

    Request: Top 8 cards which where most in a top 8 of the week

  • @odarkeq
    @odarkeq 11 років тому

    Does TSG have a hockey show? Is LSV on it?

  • @edwinedward4543
    @edwinedward4543 8 років тому

    Where would eye of ugin fit in this list

  • @Joeyboiification
    @Joeyboiification 11 років тому

    Mirrodin standard wasn't broken by arcbound ravager, it was broken by skullclamp and the artifact lands, all six of which were banned in standard within a couple of months of modular/affinity just winning absolutely everything. Should have mentioned that in this vid too....

  • @cz75fanatic
    @cz75fanatic 12 років тому

    Yep this should be a LSV favorite.

  • @Affinity2412
    @Affinity2412 9 років тому +3

    Ravager Affinity??

    • @willuda7098
      @willuda7098 8 років тому +1

      What is your confusion?

  • @MrCoolguy9
    @MrCoolguy9 12 років тому

    whats a dredge deck?

  • @Lazris59
    @Lazris59 12 років тому

    You didn't talk about the tempered steel deck you guys ran at worlds? Broke that tourney... but G/R ramp bat you. Still, it was a huge break.

  • @thanorn3
    @thanorn3 12 років тому

    What about Affinity?

  • @AncientSoup
    @AncientSoup 12 років тому

    It played Glimpse of Nature, Heritage Druid and a lot of cheap elves, to turn each creature into a mana and a card, then you can use all the elves you produce a large Predator Dragon or a large Grapeshot.

  • @nelvinrojas1952
    @nelvinrojas1952 3 роки тому +2

    How far we have strayed from God

  • @IthilanorStPete
    @IthilanorStPete 12 років тому

    No Faeries or Jund?

  • @Panquernic
    @Panquernic 10 років тому +8

    1:15 Karn liberated $8 lol...

    • @ausrei111
      @ausrei111 10 років тому

      lol I was just about to say the same thing

    • @chappachie4168
      @chappachie4168 10 років тому +5

      Taiga at 20$

  • @Kakerate2
    @Kakerate2 8 років тому

    what deck is he talking about at 9:30 ?

  • @MrTnox
    @MrTnox 12 років тому

    no jund?

  • @LAZERPEOPLZ
    @LAZERPEOPLZ 12 років тому

    haven't seen it yet, but I'm predicting it

  • @PenguinForTheWin
    @PenguinForTheWin 12 років тому

    This is the second video now that I've seen Bonefire of the Damned on sale.

  • @XKaliber2097
    @XKaliber2097 12 років тому

    Am I just a noob or should survival have definitely been on this list?

  • @NicksLotus
    @NicksLotus 12 років тому

    DO A top 8: worst ptq mess ups

  • @bobbysnobby
    @bobbysnobby 10 років тому

    I have seen this twice and I still think that not even an honorable mention to broken jar is a major oversight.

    • @saltedllama2759
      @saltedllama2759 9 років тому

      It didn't "break" the format though. Breaking the format means it comes out of nowhere and takes the format by storm. Jar was stupidly obvious as a broken card the moment it came out, and that's why it was banned so quickly. No one broke out with it; it was immediately degenerate. Like Tolarian Academy before it, or Fluctuator and then every Cycle card costs 2.
      Nothing from Urza's was game-breaking, innovative, or interesting. It was obviously broken standalone cards that required zero thought, and also circumvented player interaction.

  • @wingshad0w00982
    @wingshad0w00982 12 років тому

    OK, top 8 format breakers in the last 5-6 years
    JTMS #1

  • @evanmacarthur-waltz1795
    @evanmacarthur-waltz1795 6 років тому

    I wonder where eldrazi would have gone on this list.

  • @hundredpercentjuice
    @hundredpercentjuice 6 років тому +1

    Looking at TSG being genuinely disgusted by Luis' good natured stories about winning totally makes sense knowing what we know now....

  • @paradoarify
    @paradoarify 12 років тому

    That's 2005. I think.

  • @MSNking14
    @MSNking14 12 років тому

    Top 8 Generals for Commander!!!

  • @UpsidedownHandshake
    @UpsidedownHandshake 12 років тому

    Predicting Cawblade as number one.

  • @RPGAssassin
    @RPGAssassin 12 років тому

    WTF, where was the affinity nightmare that caused massive quits?

  • @TEAMBURNSHADOW
    @TEAMBURNSHADOW 12 років тому

    deliver top 8 every tourney in last month

  • @ZeMnouS
    @ZeMnouS 12 років тому

    im foreeeing jace being in the top 5 for this topic

  • @thanorn3
    @thanorn3 12 років тому

    Oh that's right.

  • @nschulz4537
    @nschulz4537 12 років тому

    Top 8 cards that keep people honest.

  • @joshuadulin5634
    @joshuadulin5634 11 років тому

    Befor I watch, Ravenger? Vengevin? Batterskull/ Stoneforge? Snapcaster? Protein hulk? I dunno

  • @WTFuneral
    @WTFuneral 12 років тому

    hm, wonder why it wasnt on there, oh well i forgot about stoneforge. eeeesh

  • @alpharage1090
    @alpharage1090 12 років тому

    no ravager/

  • @kmackoviak09
    @kmackoviak09 12 років тому

    @7:28 ahahaha, bigger fish, whatt??? Shaun knows it too.

  • @FuckingWithThePiano
    @FuckingWithThePiano 12 років тому

    My spider sense is tingling about Arcbound Ravager....

  • @yngmalm
    @yngmalm 12 років тому +1

    4:57 My last girlfriend gave me bonefire of the damned...some cream and some antibiotics cleared it right up.

  • @Quiltfish
    @Quiltfish 12 років тому

    Raging Cougar? o_O

  • @legochickenguy4938
    @legochickenguy4938 9 років тому

    Cavern of Souls 17.50 :(

  • @0therworlds
    @0therworlds 10 років тому

    13:20 "Bonefire of the Damned"...

  • @prestonrasmussen4083
    @prestonrasmussen4083 5 років тому

    And now dredge is broken again

  • @keyes53ljh
    @keyes53ljh 12 років тому

    hmmm...no wild nacatl's delver's primeval's or valakut's...for realz!

  • @thatguy088
    @thatguy088 11 років тому

    in terms of power level, i was disappointed to not see vengevine for legacy, it was the last piece to a puzzle that turned a traditionally decent and efficient engine (survival) into one of the most busted decks ever, it completely broke an entire eternal format, then we had mental misstep obsolete every deck in a format except 2... legacy gets no love :(

  • @RHCPgroupie42
    @RHCPgroupie42 12 років тому

    Calling the Arcbound Ravager

  • @MrMacdaddymcfly
    @MrMacdaddymcfly 9 років тому

    at $15 snappy and $15 liliana

  • @iVindicate
    @iVindicate 12 років тому

    Don't read the comments before you watch the video. You do this to yourself...

  • @koyoyoyo1170
    @koyoyoyo1170 9 років тому

    I have one thing to say "1997".

  • @mattcruz9060
    @mattcruz9060 11 років тому

    heheh, Tibalt was down at 12 dollars.

  • @ImTaylorGang
    @ImTaylorGang 12 років тому

    wearing a ranger shirt after they got eliminated... come on tristan!!

  • @rhysthompson7361
    @rhysthompson7361 9 років тому +1

    Armageddon would also destroy the Thopter/Dark Depths combo.

  • @ThatFremenGuy
    @ThatFremenGuy 12 років тому +1

    Caw-Blade? Blame Brian Kibler.

  • @Lornext
    @Lornext 11 років тому +2

    F-F-F-Format Breaker!

  • @gedwashere91
    @gedwashere91 12 років тому

    ZOMG ANGEL DELVER SHOULD BE ON THE LIST
    #banponder

  • @Rtiffany0466
    @Rtiffany0466 12 років тому

    It didn't break it for long, but modern 2010-2011 Blazing Shoal + Inkmoth Nexus.

  • @WTFuneral
    @WTFuneral 12 років тому

    havent watched yet but im forseeing lingering souls.....

  • @RoxyGotMoxy.
    @RoxyGotMoxy. 10 років тому

    Nothing about Delver? Jesus that card/archtype is goddamn EVERYWHERE!

    • @saltedllama2759
      @saltedllama2759 9 років тому +3

      It didn't "break" a format. Like the Jar comments above, it has to be a complete surprise. Delver decks were obviously good early on, and just hung around forever. It didn't come in and completely surprise a major tournament field and subsequently become the fad.

  • @carlosspencer5369
    @carlosspencer5369 6 років тому

    LMAO ya'll freaking out about $8 karns and $20 snaps but holy shit sub $100 dual lands sign me the fuck up

  • @LAZERPEOPLZ
    @LAZERPEOPLZ 12 років тому

    *ahem*JACE, THE MIND SCULPTOR*ahem*

  • @casinoboy8871
    @casinoboy8871 3 роки тому

    Lsv the best

  • @ponman2005
    @ponman2005 12 років тому

    mmm

  • @TheLuminousCleric
    @TheLuminousCleric 11 років тому

    Are you fucking kidding me? Buying dual lands for 25 dollars to 65 dollars? O_o

  • @jonahmelegrito
    @jonahmelegrito 12 років тому

    ...And then Bonfire of the Damned was printed

  • @discoooooooo
    @discoooooooo 12 років тому

    Survival was legacy only so it wouldn't have made it. However it was a beast.

  • @catwithorb
    @catwithorb 6 років тому +1

    Tundra -- $70.
    Hahahahhahahahahahahaha

  • @Ignition_Spark
    @Ignition_Spark 9 років тому

    At 05:00 Bonefire of the Damned.

  • @IndianolaIndian90
    @IndianolaIndian90 9 років тому

    Skullclamp broke format

  • @manhattanblockade8544
    @manhattanblockade8544 4 роки тому

    Bayou $40

  • @armityle27
    @armityle27 12 років тому

    the problem is, to me it's spoiler. If you did the same thing for a movie, commenting when each fight seen with who, and any romantic scenes, or any deaths, it would be a spoiler. sorta the same thing here

  • @themanwiththepan
    @themanwiththepan 12 років тому

    Affinity isn't broken.
    Don't hate the game; hate the player.

  • @T-Ron
    @T-Ron 11 років тому

    hahaha, the video just froze at 6:22 XD

  • @heyimbilliejean
    @heyimbilliejean 12 років тому

    Too bad they didn't go back a little further. They could have talked about affinity.

  • @SpaceMormon
    @SpaceMormon 11 років тому

    Olivia Voldaren $2.00 Snapcaster Mage $15.00...ME GUSTA!

  • @AeonAxisProductions
    @AeonAxisProductions 9 років тому +3

    Seige rhino

    • @ItRhymesWith
      @ItRhymesWith 9 років тому +4

      Siege Rhino hasn't broken a format. It's just too efficient, is all.

    • @AeonAxisProductions
      @AeonAxisProductions 9 років тому

      well abzan wouldnt be the number 1 played deck (pre origins) without it lol

    • @ItRhymesWith
      @ItRhymesWith 9 років тому +6

      Abzan nowhere near dominated Standard the way Stoneforge and Jace did