Im starting to believe governments around the world are starting to really dislike the the social media era 😂😂😂😂. Finally the average citizens of the world have a voice 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Remember the time when the right were banging on about how social media shouldn't be involved in politics. Now all of a sudden the right have nothing to say with Elon Musk deeply embedded into the political machine. The right need to get back to actually having consistent positions on issues.
I think it dislikes the fact that its chums (the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV) are losing their viewership to independents who actually do research things beyond an agreed biassed narrative. It is far easier for the govt to control a few OFCOM regulated broadcasters than thousands of individual teams, discovering what's beneath the teleprompter.
@@jamess6961 Stopping support for NATO should be enough, and will be the leverage against these attacks on American basic human right standards. NO WAY we should fight to defend, say Putin's Russia vs UK, *if* it's one tyrannical government against another.
Yes. They seem to think all their propaganda works on everyone. Of course, some do fall for it so they try to silence anybody who speaks truths. Tyranny in full swing.
Article 10 of the ECHR. "Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers." Regardless of frontiers, end of conversation. If the government thinks it's OK to break Article 8 and indeed 10 then why are the boats still coming? Anyone?
Article 10 of the ECHR also states that - "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals" Pity you left out the most important part...
Hasn't one of those little countries, somewhere on Europe, arrested a woman for quoting a portion of the Bible? I believe the country was Finland. What instantly comes to mind is that I guess this article 10 of whatever that document is, didn't appply - at that moment in time - I guess!
@@severanze9065 Nah. The important part is this fact the British government respected the core principle for decades after the inception of the ECHR and only recently "amended" it after people voted for Brexit, first breaking Article 8 and more recently Article 10. The most important point, of course, is the hypocrisy.
The US founding fathers who enshrined their free speech into law didn't say you can say what you like unless you're offending people, spreading disinformation, or shouting fire in a crowded theater. If you give the government the right to control what people can and can't say they then have the power to control what people are and aren't allowed to think.
Very few can speak to millions on X. It is just the same as your analogy of the pub. If people don't agree with you, they block your posts. I enjoy X but I block a lot of the noise. Freedom of speech is important as is telling the truth.
What a total moron, we are a little pissy place and we want a billionaire to drop in ? FREE SPEAKER AND SPEECH, Starmer the harder no free speakers let’s get the WOKE idiots, they making us look stupid throughout the world WE AREA LAUGHING STOCK well done labour
Biden & kumala did the same damn thing to the US! It's disgusting & thankful people finally found a backbone & said "enough of this bullshit!" Btw: you're not a laughing stock, I really do believe most people know what's going on, it's all about a sick agenda to break people down & for the "leaders" to make money through dirty deals.
Blair was exactly the same I was in crown court 3 abuse charges looking at 7 yrs inside for physically abusing my son the jury my FSMILY the public gallery LAUGHING ARE ARSRS off ALLLLL WEEK LONG as CPS and social SERVICES endlessly photo copied endless lies on freshly still warm paper trying go fuk my life over found not guilty all charges and out of court the police social services CPS had a utter and complete melt down
Elon should reply. I will have a teams conference with you. All Questions and my reply's will be aired on X real time in writing so you cannot interrupt. I bet the UK government would not agree to that format.
There was a time when man's skin was thick enough to not be hurt so easily by words... You either have the freedom or you don't. There is no "mostly free" anything. There are ALWAYS hidden costs.
Who do the British government think they are? Censorship to protect people is one thing but censorship to silence opposition is tyrannical. I disagree, some people are free to say what they like because they are the chosen ones, other people feel the full weight of the law for disagreeing with the government.
The “free” in free speech is not dependent upon the size of your audience. Free is free. That is like saying you have a right to defend yourself, but not if there are too many attackers.
Yeah last I checked ppl subscribing to any social media is completely optional. If ppl arent able to discern fact from fiction that is not Elons problem. Does however seem to be a problem for US democrats & UK labour administrations? Strange how that works out?
I don't get offended by absolutely anything on Twitter as I don't use Twitter. Christopher Hitchens once said "if you are perched on your toilet spying into your next door neighbours bathroom, don't get offended by what you may see"
Listen here go and attack the political class for their nastiness and take a look at the house of commons, get a grip it's called life and you don't have to follow, you also have a switch off button....Big up to Elon Musk he's great.
Who defines "responsible"? That's why there is no such thing as "hate speech' in the US. The top court had concluded that the term is too vague - too nebulous - to be legally defined.
No don't want to populate a brand new place that Elon in four want to go to, a pure place with out leftest nutters touching let's send them to Cuba, Venezuela, China they love Marxist government, they will fix in well there
You're telling us we aren't permitted to lie on SM? What about CVs and linkedin? May I introduce my pals Keir & Rachel, and my special friend from Guyana?
Musk should invite them across the pond to conduct their interview, which he should film and broadcast. Offer the corrupt clowns a luxury trip and they won't be able to resist.
You want censorship lady, say it!!! How are you going to make sure people are accountable of what they say without censorship. Come on, say it, ….. censorship.
We don't get a warning or are offended that Daleks may not be real when we watch Doctor Who so why do people get so offended when they go on social media sites and read things that might not be true?
Very confusing messaging here. No restrictions on fs but we need to inject 'responsibility'? FYI the founding fathers in the US did use the printing press, anonymously, and were quite rude! They would have no problem with Musk's X.
"If you are guilty of spreading falsehoods, telling lies... you should face the full force of the law." falsehoods and lies according to who? Some of those people who got prison sentences over messages on twitter turned out to not be lying about the attackers religious leanings and only because the police keep "redefining" what qualifies as terrorism were they wrong about that claim.
"This is the BBC"... How chilling does that sound these days? Your great-grand parents may have hushed before the radiogramme speaker and listened carefully. But, really, this disgraceful grotesque gushing of political propaganda is no longer tolerated. We've had enough. Cancel the BBC.
Social media may have played a part in but the biggest issue for for was the establishment hiding the identity of the attacker. And it followed previous weeks of other riots and police inaction. The establishment caused the riots through two tier policing. They should stand up and take responsibility.
Journos complaining ab The woman on the show speaks to us like we're children. Wakey wakey lovie ! Majority are way ahead of you And we've all had it with scolding nannies
Free speech in the Uk 🇬🇧 should be absolute as in America 🇺🇸 and protected by the 1st amendment. As for bringing parliament into disrepute & loss of reputation needs to be proven absolutely. Not now because someone says they have hurty feelings. Time people manned up & remember “Sticks & stones will break my bones but words will never break me”. As for social media having power. Just taken it from owners of traditional media (papers & tv) where the people are voice. Not you pinch of puppets 👍
Pubs and clubs are a few only now,and not many can afford a night out So we do the same but with what the world has thrust on us. Internet/social media.
Who the hell does two tier think he is? Why on earth would Musk waste his time coming to the Uk to be subjected to the Reverend Starmer having a go at him!
The ability to publish your speech is essentual to a free society, one must be able to present ones views of events and defend oneself. The only reasonable restrain of speech, is prohibit threats of violence or the encouragement of others to violence. Laws already available to us. The problem is not freedom of speech, But the propaganda of our governments and philosophy of the age. A spiritual recovery is nessercery if a soco-polictical recovery is to take place.
Absolute pish, there are liable laws, outside that people should grow up, fight back, freedom of speech and expression is surely the fundamental human right.
It's cute that the British think they're in any way relevant. Sit down and do what you are good at, what you're told to do. It's MAGA time. Oppose us and watch what happens.
Whats wrong with that new GB host? So she essentially wants policed "free speech" Don't think i could despise our government any worse. Stagnating our economy, destroying the country and any potential business relationships with one of the biggest innovators of all time
A traitor has no right to summon anybody
Melinda gates
100%
This government have offended me since they came Can I report them. ?
As far as i am concerned they are not my government
Nope... Government is exempt...😂😂😂
I am very happy to have the right to be offended.
Britain has become a "no go zone" for most people.
The streets have after dark knife crime is through the roof
i do not recognise this labour government as my government i did not vote them in
Yes you all had a hand in voting them in, if not 'directly' as individuals. So sit back and enjoy.
@@libertylizard_ Well one thing i do not work so i don't pay tax to fund their migrant program and their other hair brain schemes 😂😂😂😂😂
@@nemesis-f4b If you had any finance you'd do well to leave before their schemes push our President into paying you all a visit lol.
Im starting to believe governments around the world are starting to really dislike the the social media era 😂😂😂😂. Finally the average citizens of the world have a voice 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Remember the time when the right were banging on about how social media shouldn't be involved in politics. Now all of a sudden the right have nothing to say with Elon Musk deeply embedded into the political machine. The right need to get back to actually having consistent positions on issues.
Not in the UK we don’t
I think it dislikes the fact that its chums (the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV) are losing their viewership to independents who actually do research things beyond an agreed biassed narrative. It is far easier for the govt to control a few OFCOM regulated broadcasters than thousands of individual teams, discovering what's beneath the teleprompter.
@@personalcheeses8073or Australia
@@personalcheeses8073 Correct, but we have the power to change the UK, and to stop being just like the old DDR (East Germany).
So what will they do with him, put him in prison like Tommy Robinson.
LoL they wouldn't dare.
Too big
Think Trump would invade if that happened.
@@jamess6961we can only hope !
@@jamess6961 Stopping support for NATO should be enough, and will be the leverage against these attacks on American basic human right standards.
NO WAY we should fight to defend, say Putin's Russia vs UK, *if* it's one tyrannical government against another.
Well to be blunt musk could just tell them were to go what are they going to do answer is nothing
STARMER PROVOKES HATRED & RIOTING....HE MUST GO.
People still have brains. Do they assume we're not intelligent enough to make up our own minds?
Yes. They seem to think all their propaganda works on everyone. Of course, some do fall for it so they try to silence anybody who speaks truths. Tyranny in full swing.
Not in a Commie or Fascist regime, you are a serf, a peon, a robot programmed to think, do and say what it is told to do and say.
Yes
Article 10 of the ECHR. "Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers."
Regardless of frontiers, end of conversation. If the government thinks it's OK to break Article 8 and indeed 10 then why are the boats still coming? Anyone?
Article 10 of the ECHR also states that -
"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals"
Pity you left out the most important part...
Hasn't one of those little countries, somewhere on Europe, arrested a woman for quoting a portion of the Bible? I believe the country was Finland. What instantly comes to mind is that I guess this article 10 of whatever that document is, didn't appply - at that moment in time - I guess!
@@severanze9065 Nah. The important part is this fact the British government respected the core principle for decades after the inception of the ECHR and only recently "amended" it after people voted for Brexit, first breaking Article 8 and more recently Article 10. The most important point, of course, is the hypocrisy.
You need to carry a copy with you so they do not try to bully you
@@nemesis-f4b How, in Heaven's name, can an adult be 'bullied'? They might as well say that people are 'naughty"!!!
Im sure Musk won't be participating in any kangaroo court , who the fuck do they think they are ,
Starmer sees himself as chief prosecutor and his decisions are not to be questioned, he hates it.
This is another trap like with Pavel Durov in France. He will be in cuffs within seconds of arriving on UK soil.
Socialists.
Uk. ……. The world is laughing at us. I’m very embarrassed, sorry everyone
The US founding fathers who enshrined their free speech into law didn't say you can say what you like unless you're offending people, spreading disinformation, or shouting fire in a crowded theater. If you give the government the right to control what people can and can't say they then have the power to control what people are and aren't allowed to think.
I'm British and they had a lot of common sense.
@@zoltan-zq3xe Didn't they just. They would put a lot to shame today.
Free speech is free speech ! That is the pure definition of free speech ! There is no proof that speech has any relationship between acts Committed !
Why are the police running around arresting pensioners waving Union Jacks ?
Why did reformers throw bricks at police?
Because they're rioting?
Do keep up.
I believe the flag flying was termed something called 'incitement of harm' - a childish term if there ever was one.
@@richardgallagher4088make your mind up it was the EDL a couple of months ago. Now you seem to know how they voted. 😂
what about the BBC 's anti Reform party agenda
Very few can speak to millions on X. It is just the same as your analogy of the pub. If people don't agree with you, they block your posts. I enjoy X but I block a lot of the noise. Freedom of speech is important as is telling the truth.
What a total moron, we are a little pissy place and we want a billionaire to drop in ? FREE SPEAKER AND SPEECH, Starmer the harder no free speakers let’s get the WOKE idiots, they making us look stupid throughout the world WE AREA LAUGHING STOCK well done labour
When did the 6th biggest economy in the world become a little pissy place? You have been listening to the left running our country down for to long.
Biden & kumala did the same damn thing to the US! It's disgusting & thankful people finally found a backbone & said "enough of this bullshit!"
Btw: you're not a laughing stock, I really do believe most people know what's going on, it's all about a sick agenda to break people down & for the "leaders" to make money through dirty deals.
Blair was exactly the same I was in crown court 3 abuse charges looking at 7 yrs inside for physically abusing my son the jury my FSMILY the public gallery LAUGHING ARE ARSRS off ALLLLL WEEK LONG as CPS and social SERVICES endlessly photo copied endless lies on freshly still warm paper trying go fuk my life over found not guilty all charges and out of court the police social services CPS had a utter and complete melt down
Elon should reply.
I will have a teams conference with you.
All Questions and my reply's will be aired on X real time in writing so you cannot interrupt.
I bet the UK government would not agree to that format.
Yep
No he should tell them they should get in touch with Professor Suggon Deeznuts about the whole topic.
Misinformation :
Any information they don't agree with !
Welcome to your dystopia !
There was a time when man's skin was thick enough to not be hurt so easily by words...
You either have the freedom or you don't. There is no "mostly free" anything. There are ALWAYS hidden costs.
Who do the British government think they are? Censorship to protect people is one thing but censorship to silence opposition is tyrannical. I disagree, some people are free to say what they like because they are the chosen ones, other people feel the full weight of the law for disagreeing with the government.
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You can see why the Americans told the Crown to do one.
Mainstream media is a brainwashing machine.
They just want to censor as much as they can. Elon Musk should just laugh at the cheeky idiots
People have an 'ignore' option. Listening to someone you dont like is not compulsory.
I don't think a summon is asking
Ronald ragan once said the scariest thing you can hear is we are the goverment and we are here to help
The “free” in free speech is not dependent upon the size of your audience. Free is free.
That is like saying you have a right to defend yourself, but not if there are too many attackers.
They don’t like other people’s views if they differ to theirs.
It’s in the European convention of human rights; the right to offend. Offensive speech is protected
They should allow media. I would love to see this interaction .
X should be free.
It is.
We need REFORM
Lies and misinformation are allowed, as long as it conforms to the narrative. Tell the truth and you are accused of the above, make it make sense.
Starmer is going to summon the wind and the waves next…tut!
An indication what a cnute he is.
Shows what a knute he is!
@@JohnSchofield-j4i three dots to the right of you post (when you hover) allow you to edit 👍
@stuartmen... It does show what a Cnute he is.
Knut he isn't.
The UK doesn't summon Elon Musk. Elon Musk summons the UK. He is the Da Vinci of our age.
Free speach is free speach!!!
Speech!🤦♀️
Yeah last I checked ppl subscribing to any social media is completely optional. If ppl arent able to discern fact from fiction that is not Elons problem. Does however seem to be a problem for US democrats & UK labour administrations? Strange how that works out?
Hope Elon tell Liebour where to go however he so chooses!!
Hope he comes over with Trump early next year and both speak in the Houses of Parliament. Then he tell 2TK where to go!😂😂😂
People should take responsibility for what they think, nice
she is calling for a ministry of truth without having the awareness to realise it
The enemy is within !!
WEFminster!
I don't get offended by absolutely anything on Twitter as I don't use Twitter.
Christopher Hitchens once said "if you are perched on your toilet spying into your next door neighbours bathroom, don't get offended by what you may see"
Listen here go and attack the political class for their nastiness and take a look at the house of commons, get a grip it's called life and you don't have to follow, you also have a switch off button....Big up to Elon Musk he's great.
Who defines "responsible"? That's why there is no such thing as "hate speech' in the US. The top court had concluded that the term is too vague - too nebulous - to be legally defined.
@forevertoons9022 exactly. And it's the woke left who don't want anyone thinking critically or against their narrative.
Free speech all the way
Can we send Starmer on a mission to find life on mars..along with Lammy, Abbott, Butler, Rayner, Reeves, Streeting and Khan....
Even if they arrive there will be no life .lol.
@zoltan-zq3xe 😂
Don't forget Cooper.
No don't want to populate a brand new place that Elon in four want to go to, a pure place with out leftest nutters touching let's send them to Cuba, Venezuela, China they love Marxist government, they will fix in well there
@@sharonseed She's just a clingy on 😂 Never met a more miserable two faced bunch in all my life.
Speech is speech regardless of audience size. Free speech with many restrictions is not free speech. You can't be kind of pregnant.
You're telling us we aren't permitted to lie on SM? What about CVs and linkedin? May I introduce my pals Keir & Rachel, and my special friend from Guyana?
Musk should invite them across the pond to conduct their interview, which he should film and broadcast. Offer the corrupt clowns a luxury trip and they won't be able to resist.
Get Harry Miller on....he arrested a copper!
Libel laws are civil, not legal law, surely.
She said what they think
As always, Benedict speaks for me! Watch out Britain, you don’t want to lose him too! 🤦🏻♀️
Be offended thats part of life.
You want censorship lady, say it!!! How are you going to make sure people are accountable of what they say without censorship. Come on, say it, ….. censorship.
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Well said tashy
Don't collect tax from the huge companies but seek to summon X owner? hmmm
We don't get a warning or are offended that Daleks may not be real when we watch Doctor Who so why do people get so offended when they go on social media sites and read things that might not be true?
and why are all the fast food outlets American
Musk should tell the UKSSR government in no uncertain terms to 'Foxtrot Oscar'.
Another coincidence, same crap going on here in Australia
Who really is behind the misinformation ??? and disinformation ?????? Oh I need to check my CV 🤦♀
Very confusing messaging here. No restrictions on fs but we need to inject 'responsibility'? FYI the founding fathers in the US did use the printing press, anonymously, and were quite rude! They would have no problem with Musk's X.
I've never heard that one before..☺️
I bet he's absolutely bricking it 😂
"If you are guilty of spreading falsehoods, telling lies... you should face the full force of the law."
falsehoods and lies according to who? Some of those people who got prison sentences over messages on twitter turned out to not be lying about the attackers religious leanings and only because the police keep "redefining" what qualifies as terrorism were they wrong about that claim.
Yes- Like China, Britain should make their own platform.
You have free speech as long as not too many people will hear what you have to say?
Britain, we are more righteous than thou !
"This is the BBC"... How chilling does that sound these days? Your great-grand parents may have hushed before the radiogramme speaker and listened carefully. But, really, this disgraceful grotesque gushing of political propaganda is no longer tolerated. We've had enough. Cancel the BBC.
Why do you think harry went to america and started attacking free speech .and we get this in this country?.
Why don't the MPs nip off to America to see him? Twice in two months, they'll love it. Okay he's not Harris but still...
It seems people seemingly only interested in collecting a 9-5pm paycheck keep wanting to regulate those employing people! Madness!!!
Offence is taken, not given! Grow up!
Elon musk will not back down
Elon's response should be a one way ticket for the Starship 6 launch.
the riots started in Leeds....where the police ran away from the rioters
????? Legacy media lies all the time... How can this women say "they don't say things without proof"??🤣🤣 Is she lying here?
Ask STAZI STARMER.....ITS MY RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED..AS ITS MY RIGHT TO OFFEND..
Who decides if you are right or wrong then?
Unfortunately, no one would want to innovate in the UK when the UK owners would be controlled by the UK government that is the flavor of the month.
Social media may have played a part in but the biggest issue for for was the establishment hiding the identity of the attacker. And it followed previous weeks of other riots and police inaction.
The establishment caused the riots through two tier policing. They should stand up and take responsibility.
She’s amazing ❤
Elon must be quaking in his shoes
Starmer deserves to be smeared,"what goes around comes around",Starmer as a hater,,so he has to swallow his own pill.
Journos complaining ab The woman on the show speaks to us like we're children. Wakey wakey lovie ! Majority are way ahead of you And we've all had it with scolding nannies
Free speech in the Uk 🇬🇧 should be absolute as in America 🇺🇸 and protected by the 1st amendment. As for bringing parliament into disrepute & loss of reputation needs to be proven absolutely. Not now because someone says they have hurty feelings. Time people manned up & remember “Sticks & stones will break my bones but words will never break me”. As for social media having power. Just taken it from owners of traditional media (papers & tv) where the people are voice. Not you pinch of puppets 👍
Will government un-truths about Stockport, spread everywhere, including Twitter, be included in this inquiry ?
Thought not.
Pubs and clubs are a few only now,and not many can afford a night out
So we do the same but with what the world has thrust on us. Internet/social media.
But milliins of people cannot comment in the newspapers , oranges and apples .
Leave Elon alone. He can zap any country from his spaceship 😂and close down your Internet.
Who the hell does two tier think he is? Why on earth would Musk waste his time coming to the Uk to be subjected to the Reverend Starmer having a go at him!
Elon won't come here lol Theyll have him put in prison for some trumped up charge
Has 2Tier, Free Gear, Farmer harmer Starmer become an SS?🤔🤨
Yes free speech is free speech no matter what is said. That’s my opinion.
Elon must be laughing his socks off, rightly so too
The ability to publish your speech is essentual to a free society, one must be able to present ones views of events and defend oneself. The only reasonable restrain of speech, is prohibit threats of violence or the encouragement of others to violence. Laws already available to us.
The problem is not freedom of speech, But the propaganda of our governments and philosophy of the age. A spiritual recovery is nessercery if a soco-polictical recovery is to take place.
Labour = Ingsoc.
musk does not have to do what they want this is laughable
Absolute pish, there are liable laws, outside that people should grow up, fight back, freedom of speech and expression is surely the fundamental human right.
What a bunch of vapid waffle.
It's cute that the British think they're in any way relevant. Sit down and do what you are good at, what you're told to do. It's MAGA time. Oppose us and watch what happens.
If you don't like X with free speech for everyone go to the liberal blue sky the alternative for those with hard feelings 🤣🤣
Whats wrong with that new GB host? So she essentially wants policed "free speech"
Don't think i could despise our government any worse. Stagnating our economy, destroying the country and any potential business relationships with one of the biggest innovators of all time