@K, U aren’t a KILLA ok, so that scene I think shows not only that Nicky is child-like or immature at age 47, just another support for that theme, but also perhaps to cause the viewer to wonder if he is lying to the store clerk. Does he really have a "nephew" for whom he's buying these comic books? Or are they really for him? (and he doesn't want the clerk to know that) Thereby lending more credence to his "unbelievable" or "untrustworthy" characteristic. Also, the clerk reaches for his gun hiding just behind the counter, which might be a way of demonstrating that he knows this guy might be or IS "trouble". How's that for an answer? lol
I worked as an extra/gopher for almost the entire 2 months. It's possible I'm seen on the bus. I remember the bus parked in a cemetery and we all were pushing and rocking to give the illusion of motion. My friend was Falk's stand in, same height and coloring. Just saw him for the first time since 1975. And I remember Victor and most of the rest of the crew. He taught me to stay and watch the credits roll.
Watched Mikey & Nicky for the first time last night. Thought it was amazing! Loved the raw and frenetic nature of the performances and the writing and the way it was filmed. It sounds like it was a difficult film to create, maddening at times perhaps, because of a lack of coordination and even the limits of early 70's technology- but the finished project, May's director cut, is an absolutely incredible and inspiring movie.
When you have John Cassavettes and Peter Falk acting in front of you, it's completely understandable why you'd want to just put on the camera and let it roll. Get out of the way. She was quite correct: they very well may have come back! These guys were the kings of unpredictable and naturalism and authenticity! Isn't Sandy Meisner in this movie? She got Sandy Frickin' Meisner in a movie! Playing a gangster, if I remember correctly. Where else are you see THAT? These stories are pretty wild, though, I won't lie.
These anecdotes stand on their own as a collective testament to the absurdity of Elaine May's modus operandi. The concept of "respect" is irrelevant here. If you look into the history of her other films, especially 'Ishtar' for instance, you might better comprehend the cloud of frustration that developed among the participants here.
@@nickgodalin6487 When Martin Scorsese (who I love) encourages his actors to improvise, it is called genius and he gets the credit for the result. When Elaine May does the same thing it is called disorganization and the actors get the credit. Many more examples of this kind of thing - the same behavior interpreted differently because of the gender of the director. It's a useful exercise to flip gender in your head and see if you still feel the same way about an action.
@@AimlessWander32 hmmm..... probably very true. But I wasn't thinking of improv when I responded to your comment. If Scorsese wasted as much celluloid film as Elaine May did on this project, (several million feet, as I recall), not to mention the allotted funds in a given budget, I think that the terms "disorganized" or "absurd" might also be appropriate for a description, regardless of what the crew says about him.
@@AimlessWander32 Speaking of Scorsese, ever since I first saw this film (37 times ago), I've always wondered if Joe Pesci stole his "tough guy" routine directly from Falk's performance in M&N. I mean, how uncanny is the milk/cream coffee shop incident scene 10 minutes into the beginning? Heck, both actors even LOOK similar...
Such an underrated gem of a film
@K, U aren’t a KILLA ok, so that scene I think shows not only that Nicky is child-like or immature at age 47, just another support for that theme, but also perhaps to cause the viewer to wonder if he is lying to the store clerk.
Does he really have a "nephew" for whom he's buying these comic books?
Or are they really for him? (and he doesn't want the clerk to know that)
Thereby lending more credence to his "unbelievable" or "untrustworthy" characteristic.
Also, the clerk reaches for his gun hiding just behind the counter, which might be a way of demonstrating that he knows this guy might be or IS "trouble".
How's that for an answer? lol
I worked as an extra/gopher for almost the entire 2 months. It's possible I'm seen on the bus. I remember the bus parked in a cemetery and we all were pushing and rocking to give the illusion of motion. My friend was Falk's stand in, same height and coloring. Just saw him for the first time since 1975. And I remember Victor and most of the rest of the crew. He taught me to stay and watch the credits roll.
Watched Mikey & Nicky for the first time last night. Thought it was amazing! Loved the raw and frenetic nature of the performances and the writing and the way it was filmed. It sounds like it was a difficult film to create, maddening at times perhaps, because of a lack of coordination and even the limits of early 70's technology- but the finished project, May's director cut, is an absolutely incredible and inspiring movie.
thanks a million for posting this!
Great actors, great film. I miss these guys, both such unique talents. Pick up the Criterion blu ray, it's the only way to see it.
@MetalGuruMessiah NAAHH, NO way - I got it as a finnish VHS, from mid 80s ....lucky me 🇫🇮
Cassavetes best work on film IMO
Thanks for posting this. Recently watched the movie and now seeking anything related to it.
the last line was so funny
Hm. Such an... interesting way they talk about Elaine May's role as a director in this movie.
do you mean sexist?
@@coopermiller3216 I wouldn't say sexist, to me it sounds like they're just poking fun at how much she loved making movies, no harm in that.
Because she was a technically incompetent twat?
No. They are professionals talking about themselves trying to do their jobs
@@coopermiller3216 Criticizing women is not sexist
The darkest comedy to ever be filmed and I do believe it is a comedy.
Yeah well,that's just like your opinion!
it's a tragedy. it's a comedy. it's a drama. it's a thriller. it's the thing that's gonna kill me i swear to god
I love this movie (Elaine May’s director’s cut)
When you have John Cassavettes and Peter Falk acting in front of you, it's completely understandable why you'd want to just put on the camera and let it roll. Get out of the way. She was quite correct: they very well may have come back! These guys were the kings of unpredictable and naturalism and authenticity! Isn't Sandy Meisner in this movie? She got Sandy Frickin' Meisner in a movie! Playing a gangster, if I remember correctly. Where else are you see THAT? These stories are pretty wild, though, I won't lie.
It has some deep feminist satire, below a cloud of destructive machismo.
Yeah! That's what I really love about it, actually.
Other than the tragic homoeroticism, of course.
@@funnylittlecreature I shipped them. I didn't care about the drama, I just wanted the both of them to get together.
The way they talk about Elaine May.... "I gave him the cut sign", overriding her direction. They need to learn some respect.
These anecdotes stand on their own as a collective testament to the absurdity of Elaine May's modus operandi.
The concept of "respect" is irrelevant here.
If you look into the history of her other films, especially 'Ishtar' for instance, you might better comprehend the cloud of frustration that developed among the participants here.
@@nickgodalin6487 When Martin Scorsese (who I love) encourages his actors to improvise, it is called genius and he gets the credit for the result. When Elaine May does the same thing it is called disorganization and the actors get the credit. Many more examples of this kind of thing - the same behavior interpreted differently because of the gender of the director. It's a useful exercise to flip gender in your head and see if you still feel the same way about an action.
@@AimlessWander32 hmmm..... probably very true. But I wasn't thinking of improv when I responded to your comment.
If Scorsese wasted as much celluloid film as Elaine May did on this project, (several million feet, as I recall), not to mention the allotted funds in a given budget, I think that the terms "disorganized" or "absurd" might also be appropriate for a description, regardless of what the crew says about him.
@@AimlessWander32 Speaking of Scorsese, ever since I first saw this film (37 times ago), I've always wondered if Joe Pesci stole his "tough guy" routine directly from Falk's performance in M&N.
I mean, how uncanny is the milk/cream coffee shop incident scene 10 minutes into the beginning?
Heck, both actors even LOOK similar...
@@nickgodalin6487 Ishtar lmao,I'd forgotten that crap lmno
Where’s Elaine?
I just watched a clip from TCM where Elaine May firmly states there wasn't any improvising. What is truth? Has too much time passed for that? 🤔
We may safely assume that she’s full of shit.
The best movie ever directed by a woman
them just roasting elaine
A testament to artistic genius and technical dumbness. I wonder if they show this to movie executives so they learn to never trust the talent.
How did they ever let her near a camera again?
I think this was the worst film I have ever viewed. The porno flick "Miss Kinsley's Report" had a better script and superior acting.
Who was the sound guy on this? my god....