Just a quick tip always remove the filler cap before draining the oil because if you find out you can’t get that filler cap off and you drain the oil you’re absolutely screwed unless you can pump in oil from the bottom🤷♂️ this is something I have learned the hard way🤫🤦🏻🤷♂️
Local shop, the cheaper of the two near me, was going to charge $140 for an oil change on my FZ. This couldn't be simpler, easier maybe than even on a car. Outrageous.
Personal preference I suppose. I like to give it a little with the filter wrench. With gloves on I could probably tighten it more by hand so it's not really that tight. If I remember correctly 12 ft-lbs is the target. Ride safe
@@MotoSouth What are your thoughts on the suspension? I'm choosing between the stock suspension or the SP model, which has a upgraded suspension. ( Here in Europe) dunno if u guys got the SP model?. I've heard people complaining about the suspension being to soft, atleast on the early models. What year is yours, 2018?
I have a 2017 which has the updated suspension. It's not that bad if you take the time to adjust it but definitely has room for improvement. Worlds better than the first generation (14-16) but nothing like what's offered on the SP. We still don't have the SP here in the states but I have considered added Ohlins to mine.
All good except near the oil plug and they oil eye meter you have a numeric mark i think in cubic measurement that is the indicator of how much oil the engine requires or you can consult it in the owners manual as well
Dude I followed your video while changing my oil the very first time. Good video overall but the oil filter is supposed to be just hand tight. I wrenched my oil filter just like you did. I shouldnt have done it. I probably over tightened it. Guys watching this video: DO NOT USE A WRENCH TO PUT ON THE OIL FILTER LIKE HE DID.
Btw, I have had oil filters (cars) that required alternative means for removal... that chainsaw would have been pretty good. Nothing like ramming a screw driver through your filter to twist it off 😏😑
The original filter was pretty tough to remove so I know what you mean. This was my second oil change and a filter that I had installed myself. Much easier to get off.
I bought an old Ford Ranger one time that had a stuck oil filter. I drove a screw driver through it but before it was over with I had to rip the entire body of the filter off so I could get to the frame with a huge pair of channel locks. Thought I would never get it off.
30 is what the manual says but it does seem pretty tight. I think if you use a new washer you would be fine with less torque. I normally go by feel on the drain bolt and skip the torque wrench all together.
I'm wondering why the oil that came out from the drain plug hole was black and looked like it needed to be changed, but the oil from the filter clean? - That doesn't make sense to me.
Fantastic video and good job! About the oil... don't want to get into brands only asking and need proper answer please, semi synthetic or fully synthetic? What's better for this specific bike? I just serviced my MT09 and the mechanic convinced me to use semi synthetic and i listened but according to my understanding fully synthetic will always be better than semi synthetic provides better lubrication in harder conditions and last for longer in hot temperatures isn't it correct?
I use synthetic oils in all of my vehicles, but only after they have had a chance to properly break in. Synthetic or even semi synthetic isn't required for this model and some might argue that synthetic is just a waste of money, but it gives me peace of mind. Tests generally show fully synthetic oils to be superior to both their conventional and semi synthetic counterparts. Just Google motorcycle oil comparison and you'll have enough information to drive you insane. The most important thing is that you choose an oil designed for motorcycles, and with the proper classifications as recommended in your owner's manual. There seems to be a misconception about running synthetic oils in motorcycles because in their early days, the proper additives weren't used to accommodate motorcycle clutches, but modern synthetics made for motorcycles don't have that problem.
@@MotoSouth Very interesting. I just purchased a 2019 MT-09 and the dealership said conventional oil would be fine for my bike (and most sport bikes). They said synthetic is really only needed for the bigger engines 1500cc and up. So now I'm truly on the fence about what oil to use going forward.
Well I worked at a dealership for 14 years and that's the first time I've ever heard that oil varies by displacement. They are correct about not "needing" synthetic but size of the engine has nothing to do with it.
@@MotoSouth the only time oil matters with displacement is with 2 strokes. Husqvarna says below 76cc oil can be run at 50:1 anything above that 32:1 is required
I have to say it! First only use Yamalube 10-40 as Recommended by Yamaha! Run reg Yamalube 10-40 from 600 miles to 2500 miles before switching to a Yamaha Recommended Yamalube 10-40 semi synthetic or just run the reg Yamalube for the life of the motorcycle! This info is from the dealership!
I used Yamalube for the first one at 600. This one was done at about 2300 miles. I worked for a Yamaha dealership for 14 years. They will always recommend their oil. The Mobil 1 oil meets the requirements by Yamaha, is a better oil, and it's cheaper. ;-)
hahaha...a chainsaw,i used to salvage my old hard disk and took the magnet off and break it into a few pieces and put it on the oil filter act as a magnet dimple.
Hello nice video guys. Do you know ive just done the service and my oil(the new one was yellow) i have just ride a day on it, and its get black colour. Should it be like that? Becouse i noticed even then u was changing it, it comes out yellow, and my one black. Any ideas about it?
Thank you? And how often it’s recommended to change the oil in this bike ? After how many kilometers run? 2. You could use 0w20 for better performance why you chose 10w40 ?
@@MotoSouth you torqued it to 31ft-lbs but many on fz09 forums have reported damaging their oil pan. I also have a 2018 R1 and a 2019 R3 and neither of them exceeds 15-17ft-lbs. 31 does seem high. What's your opinion?
I agree. It doesn’t need to be that high. Although it shows that in the service manual, I no longer use 31 ft-lbs. I’ve been going by feel and not even putting a torque wrench on it anymore.
@@MotoSouth What conventional oil did you run before switching to Mobil 1? Owner's manual says yamalube oils are recommended & higher quality oils not recommended or required. This any concern or just Yamaha pushing sales of their products? Good video & nice bike.
I've seen this comment on every oil change video I've ever seen but yet I've snugged every filter I've ever changed without a single incident. Common sense comes into play, like snug doesn't mean stand on the wrench.
@@ImNotStalkingYou I've worked in numerous auto shops. Done probably 15,000 oil changes. I can't tell you how many times a filter wrench snugging a filter on has caused me and my coworkers headaches. The filters are not meant to be tightened. The shell is not a strong rigid piece. You run the risk of breaking the filter apart when you try to remove it. Ive had the threads separate from the body, ive had to remove the filter piece by piece, Ive had to replace stripped threads. I've never had any comeback for an oil leak caused by a loose filter (except when i was a rookie and forgot to make sure its hand tight) I was responsible for brand new cars, fleets and dealer cars trucks and bikes.
Just a quick tip always remove the filler cap before draining the oil because if you find out you can’t get that filler cap off and you drain the oil you’re absolutely screwed unless you can pump in oil from the bottom🤷♂️ this is something I have learned the hard way🤫🤦🏻🤷♂️
This saved me, thanks
Get a oil cap with Allen key support .
I really appreciate these maintenance videos for the MT 09. I just paid a mechanic 200 euros to change my oil & filter plus top up the coolant!
It's gets expensive in a hurry. Hopefully this helps you take care of it on your own next time. Thanks for watching
Local shop, the cheaper of the two near me, was going to charge $140 for an oil change on my FZ. This couldn't be simpler, easier maybe than even on a car. Outrageous.
Easy to follow. Great for those new to the bike or oil changes.
Looks like you overtightened the oil filter, hand tight is usually enough.
Personal preference I suppose. I like to give it a little with the filter wrench. With gloves on I could probably tighten it more by hand so it's not really that tight. If I remember correctly 12 ft-lbs is the target. Ride safe
@@MotoSouth What are your thoughts on the suspension? I'm choosing between the stock suspension or the SP model, which has a upgraded suspension. ( Here in Europe) dunno if u guys got the SP model?. I've heard people complaining about the suspension being to soft, atleast on the early models. What year is yours, 2018?
I have a 2017 which has the updated suspension. It's not that bad if you take the time to adjust it but definitely has room for improvement. Worlds better than the first generation (14-16) but nothing like what's offered on the SP. We still don't have the SP here in the states but I have considered added Ohlins to mine.
No SP model in the USA! Not unless imported by a customer themselves!
Agreed. I didn't know they were supposed to be just hand tightened. I over tightened it too by following the video.
I had an r6 for my first bike its gonna be nice to not have to take any fairings off, this is gonna be quick.
All good except near the oil plug and they oil eye meter you have a numeric mark i think in cubic measurement that is the indicator of how much oil the engine requires or you can consult it in the owners manual as well
look at your oil light when starting 🤙
Dude I followed your video while changing my oil the very first time. Good video overall but the oil filter is supposed to be just hand tight. I wrenched my oil filter just like you did. I shouldnt have done it. I probably over tightened it. Guys watching this video: DO NOT USE A WRENCH TO PUT ON THE OIL FILTER LIKE HE DID.
I always use a wrench to get a little past hand tight. Never had any issues 🤞
@@MotoSouth I hope I don't have any. I have silver marks on my filter after that which makes me think I may have over tightened it with the wrench.
Good lord I cant believe you didnt know not to overtighten man
@@doylee469 I wouldn't be watching 'how-to' videos on youtube if I did
To be specific, the Yamaha service manual, page 3-25 says to tighten oil filter with an oil filter wrench to 12 ft lbs.
Thanks Bro 😉
Thanks man. Needed this! 👏
Btw, I have had oil filters (cars) that required alternative means for removal... that chainsaw would have been pretty good. Nothing like ramming a screw driver through your filter to twist it off 😏😑
The original filter was pretty tough to remove so I know what you mean. This was my second oil change and a filter that I had installed myself. Much easier to get off.
@@MotoSouth : I had to use channel locks on the filter for my first change. Bugger was on there SUPER TIGHT.!
YloJkt that’s what I do😂
I bought an old Ford Ranger one time that had a stuck oil filter. I drove a screw driver through it but before it was over with I had to rip the entire body of the filter off so I could get to the frame with a huge pair of channel locks. Thought I would never get it off.
I would torq the drain bolt to 22 ft-lb of torque to save your threads. 30 ft-lb is pretty high
I was thinking the same thing. About to do my first oil change on the 09. My Honda’s are all low 20’s.
Maybe the spec is in the manual?
30 is what the manual says but it does seem pretty tight. I think if you use a new washer you would be fine with less torque. I normally go by feel on the drain bolt and skip the torque wrench all together.
M/f got me wit that intro 🤦🏾♂️
I'm wondering why the oil that came out from the drain plug hole was black and looked like it needed to be changed, but the oil from the filter clean? - That doesn't make sense to me.
Love the humor! Thanks for the info, just went out to buy oil for my bike.
Thanks.
Fantastic video and good job!
About the oil... don't want to get into brands only asking and need proper answer please, semi synthetic or fully synthetic? What's better for this specific bike? I just serviced my MT09 and the mechanic convinced me to use semi synthetic and i listened but according to my understanding fully synthetic will always be better than semi synthetic provides better lubrication in harder conditions and last for longer in hot temperatures isn't it correct?
I use synthetic oils in all of my vehicles, but only after they have had a chance to properly break in. Synthetic or even semi synthetic isn't required for this model and some might argue that synthetic is just a waste of money, but it gives me peace of mind. Tests generally show fully synthetic oils to be superior to both their conventional and semi synthetic counterparts. Just Google motorcycle oil comparison and you'll have enough information to drive you insane. The most important thing is that you choose an oil designed for motorcycles, and with the proper classifications as recommended in your owner's manual. There seems to be a misconception about running synthetic oils in motorcycles because in their early days, the proper additives weren't used to accommodate motorcycle clutches, but modern synthetics made for motorcycles don't have that problem.
@@MotoSouth Very interesting. I just purchased a 2019 MT-09 and the dealership said conventional oil would be fine for my bike (and most sport bikes). They said synthetic is really only needed for the bigger engines 1500cc and up. So now I'm truly on the fence about what oil to use going forward.
Well I worked at a dealership for 14 years and that's the first time I've ever heard that oil varies by displacement. They are correct about not "needing" synthetic but size of the engine has nothing to do with it.
@@MotoSouth the only time oil matters with displacement is with 2 strokes. Husqvarna says below 76cc oil can be run at 50:1 anything above that 32:1 is required
Top tip... Run some new oil in before you replace the sump plug.. It gets a little more of the old oil out. 👍
regarding the oil filter ITS NOT PREFERANCE, ITS HAND TIGHT
I have to say it! First only use Yamalube 10-40 as Recommended by Yamaha! Run reg Yamalube 10-40 from 600 miles to 2500 miles before switching to a Yamaha Recommended Yamalube 10-40 semi synthetic or just run the reg Yamalube for the life of the motorcycle! This info is from the dealership!
I used Yamalube for the first one at 600. This one was done at about 2300 miles. I worked for a Yamaha dealership for 14 years. They will always recommend their oil. The Mobil 1 oil meets the requirements by Yamaha, is a better oil, and it's cheaper. ;-)
Better oil debatable! I got a five year extended warranty! I am using Yamalube through the entire warranty!
Awesome! Ride safe
Yamalube doesn't have a 10w 40 semi-synthetic. They have a 10w 50 semi-synthetic. They have 10w 40 all purpose (mineral) and 10w 40 full synthetic.
500th like...... Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas 🎄
K&N filter easier to install and take off.
Bro leaving your drain bolt in the pan with the old oil like that gave me a nervous twitch.
😂
hahaha...a chainsaw,i used to salvage my old hard disk and took the magnet off and break it into a few pieces and put it on the oil filter act as a magnet dimple.
Good idea
Hey mate great vid / did you use two stands? Can you get away with just a rear ?
Thanks, and yes you can use just a rear stand.
Were you checking oil level with bike on the paddock stand? Does that work? I check mine with bike upright (balanced) on a level surface.
Using both front and rear stands places the bike level.
Oh yeah.. that makes sense. I only noticed rear stand.
Did you replace the drain plug gasket or reuse the old one?
Replace
How many mileage need to change oil and oil filter 10w40?
Hello nice video guys. Do you know ive just done the service and my oil(the new one was yellow) i have just ride a day on it, and its get black colour. Should it be like that? Becouse i noticed even then u was changing it, it comes out yellow, and my one black. Any ideas about it?
Could be a number of things..oil type/brand, mileage/wear on the engine, dirty air filter....
@@MotoSouth thank you 😉 i will check the air filter. Engine done only 10k miles so far..
Oil filter Should ONLY be hand tight. You should never need a too to remove or replace it.
I have a 2015 Yamaha fz 09 it used to belong to my son and he’s no longer with me and when I went to change the oil the oil was red is that normal
I don’t know of any oil that would be red except for automatic transmission fluid which doesn’t belong in an FZ
Motul 7100 is red oil
Thank you? And how often it’s recommended to change the oil in this bike ? After how many kilometers run?
2. You could use 0w20 for better performance why you chose 10w40 ?
10w 40 is the recommended oil for this bike.
Does having the exact amount of torque on the drain bolt necessary, or would it be fine just having it tight?
Doesn’t need to be exact. But tight enough to stay on. Many have said the manual has the wrong torque specs anyway. They say it’s too tight 🤷♂️
@@MotoSouth you torqued it to 31ft-lbs but many on fz09 forums have reported damaging their oil pan. I also have a 2018 R1 and a 2019 R3 and neither of them exceeds 15-17ft-lbs. 31 does seem high. What's your opinion?
I agree. It doesn’t need to be that high. Although it shows that in the service manual, I no longer use 31 ft-lbs. I’ve been going by feel and not even putting a torque wrench on it anymore.
And cue the comments about not ever using an oil filter wrench to tighten the filter. But seriously folks, use common sense and you'll be ok.
How much oil did you put in?
2.7 L
I have a 2019 MT 09, where can I purchase the filter and oil?
I have Amazon links in the description
How many miles did you put on the bike before you switched to full synthetic oil? Thanks
I think I had 2300 or so when I switched.
@@MotoSouth
What conventional oil did you run before switching to Mobil 1? Owner's manual says yamalube oils are recommended & higher quality oils not recommended or required. This any concern or just Yamaha pushing sales of their products? Good video & nice bike.
Yamalube
Yamaha does make a good oil but I prefer a full synthetic. If I'm not mistaken they are now offering a full synthetic though.
which torque wrench do you have? thank you
It’s an old Craftsman
@@MotoSouth sorry, I wasn't clear, I was referring to the size, there are no many options online, first time attempting to do my own work.
is there not a crush waser you need to replace?
You should replace the crush washer anytime the drain bolt is removed. 👍
how much oil enters Mt 09?
With filter change, it's 2.85 USqt (2.7 L)
HAND TIGHTEN YOUR OIL FILTER!!
I've seen this comment on every oil change video I've ever seen but yet I've snugged every filter I've ever changed without a single incident. Common sense comes into play, like snug doesn't mean stand on the wrench.
@@ImNotStalkingYou I've worked in numerous auto shops. Done probably 15,000 oil changes.
I can't tell you how many times a filter wrench snugging a filter on has caused me and my coworkers headaches.
The filters are not meant to be tightened. The shell is not a strong rigid piece. You run the risk of breaking the filter apart when you try to remove it.
Ive had the threads separate from the body, ive had to remove the filter piece by piece,
Ive had to replace stripped threads.
I've never had any comeback for an oil leak caused by a loose filter (except when i was a rookie and forgot to make sure its hand tight)
I was responsible for brand new cars, fleets and dealer cars trucks and bikes.
The way you pronounce oil, you must be from texas
Close…Louisiana
NO, NO, NO......DO NOT tighten with filter wrench. Just thought this was common knowledge. Hand tighten!
I normally go a tad past hand tight for extra insurance. No issues with removing it.
In denmark we use GLOVES , because we have a brain.................