Normally every German village has a war monument for remembering the fallen from both world wars. Most likely with the names from the village on it. But this place seems to be special in honoring also the victims from other countries who lost their lives in that area.
You are absolutely correct, I was surprised to see this garden of remembrance because it seemed a little different to the remembrance Statues that are present in other villages.
We don't have such a huge ground where I live, but each bigger town has a memorial, mostly a stone column, where the names of the fallen in both big wars are engraved. They are mostly surrounded by flowers, which the community pays a gardener for to take care of.
@@jimmydoesgermany5856 Yea, that surprised me too. I didn't know that we have such large cemeteries here in Germany, but, well, I haven't been everywhere, although I traveled a lot. So once again, thank you for this video.
If you would be once in the cologne area, I could give you a guide through the Hürtgenwald ("Battle of hurtgen forrest"), a scene of several months of fighting between germans and americans. There are some big Wargraveyards but also some single graves in the forest, also lots of german bunkers and many foxholes and trenches...a very interesting area with lots of stories and signs of a very dark past....
@@jimmydoesgermany5856 Would be a pleasure for me..I know the area quite well...the family owns a weekend house in that area...so I've been there since birth... :-)
True words: Wars are horrible! Not only for soldiers, also for the civil population. I like the idea where they buried the former enemies side by side to each other. For me, this is a small sign of reconciliation. May they rest in peace, wherever they are now. Thanx for this vid.
Have you been to "Ehrenfriedhof Heidelberg", a WW I cemetery? It is above the southern part of town on a hill, near EMBL, the European Molecular Biology Laboratory and MPI f. Kernphysik. The area is really nice for a walk. When it is warm and the restaurants reopen, you could eat and drink quite nicely in the nearby beergarden of "Bierhelder Hof", a place where romantic poets (Joseph von Eichendorf) and musicians in the 19th century used to walk to.
The German speaking part of Belgium was awarded to Belgium after the First World War, but reverted back to Germany during the Second World War and then back to Belgium after the war ended. In that part of Belgium, the Belgian flag flies over memorials to the dead of both wars. The dead listed fought on the German side in both wars. By the way, the German speakers in Belgium are quite content to be Belgians now.
According to the sign at 1.48, German soldiers and victims of bombing raids are buried here along with prisoners of war from the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia and polish and yugoslav forced laborers who died in work camps. Among the forced laborers are numerous women and children, some only 2 years old. Children would be taken along when the mothers were selected for forced labor. Apparently, there were even "familiy" work camps. 2-year-old Galja Fedotenko is one of the kids buried here. Also among those interred here are former inmates of a labor camp that were arrested for homosexuality, treason, desertion, listening to enemy radio broadcasts or spreading anti-nazi leaflets. One of them was dutchman Marinus Derven.
Thank you for your help, I really appreciate the information, it helps me to fill many questions that I had. I never knew that young children accompanied the mother.
German war cemetries normally are in foreign countries. Because mostly we were the aggressors. But, we have a monument in every community with a list of the fallen. I assume the Russians and Ukrainians were POWs and the german solders died in the last days of war.
Reading through names on those village monuments makes us realize how many generations of the same family had been lost in the first and second world wars.
German were not only the aggressors, they were also the losers of both world wars and the winners agreed on how German war graves had to look like. For example in France the allied have often single wide / bright stone crosses for the fallen of WW1 while the Germans only were allowed black wooden crosses and not a single cross for every soldier.
Not true .. nearly every city here has got a war cementry. in my city every single graveyard has one part with graves out of that time . so nope ...not true ...
This is touched me as the soldiers of Germany who died for defending their country because of WWII. We know that war left us Unforgettable disructions every where
SEEING HOW THE WAR CEMETARY'S IN SOME PARTS OF GERMANY, ARE EXTREMELY WELL KEPT, WITH A REGULAR DESIGN OF MEMORIAL HEADSTON, OF SUPERIOR QUALITY, I'M SURPRISED THAT THIS CEMETARY IS SO POORLY KEPT AND PRESENTED.
@@dieterdodel835 I know an older fellow who has had a stroke. It left him paralyzed on one side. To make it easier on himself, he had a choice of typing all in lowercase or in all caps. He chose all caps.
i did a tour with the Deutscher Bund für Kriegsgräberfürsorgeto clean and care for war graves. most of the war cemetaries in germany are in very bad shape. it's relied on volunteers to keep them. there's hardly any funds directed towards keeping these graves in decent condition.
Makes me sad and furious every time! German way of looking after their own....😠See the cemeteries in other countries. They all gave their lives for some government or system. They all wanted to live. Its shameful to see german dead so neglected. They died twice, on the battlefield and a second time, in the memory of their cuntry...
@Indigenous Advocate. , yes, all the innocents slaughtered by uk and france in europe , Russia and America! Total ww2 dead 85 million, caused by the uk and france!
But you can put such statues in a museum where they can be shown in the right context. If they are integrated into everyday life without commentary, this does not really lead to historical education. We don't put Hitler statues everywhere to not forget WW2.😅
I totally disagree with that. I don't want to be "educated", but decide for myself how I classify German history. Education sounds like Reichspropaganda Ministry to me. The mere assumption that the German population should be educated is disconcerting, undemocratic and a mockery of the responsible citizen. If a state believes it has to educate its citizens, it is a declaration of bankruptcy for democracy in that country. All statued, scultures and memorials should remain unreservedly in their context. The story does NOT belong in the museums.
@@giostisskylas You can only classify and evaluate historical events yourself if you know all the details about them and see them in the right context. If you are not a full-time historian, you will not be able to do this for time reasons alone. You are therefore dependent on experts for interpretation and classification. You would not presume to know better than your doctor either? To equate education based on expert knowledge with brainwashing is ridiculous and is mainly propagated in right-wing extremist circles to promote and justify historical revisionism. To believe that you can come to a realistic understanding of history by looking at incoherently tiny fragments like statues is arrogant and stupid. (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger-Effekt ) Democracy can only really work with well educated people.
@@yasminesteinbauer8565 Do the children from the Juste Milieu actually get diligence cards for the inflationary use of the R-word? To construct a right-wing extremist context is pathetic. When using such empty words, a discussion becomes completely pointless. And that is perhaps the intention of educated bourgeois patrons. It saves you having to think independently. The assumption that only academically trained specialists could interpret history is truly terrific. Then I can absolve myself of any responsibility for the history of Germany. The "experts" will fix it. Can you read my understanding of history from the few lines I have written? Definitely not? Your assumption that I, as a possibly historical layperson, could not have any historical overview and would only interpret history according to historical fragments that I have perceived, is extremely arrogant. I assume that you are still younger and therefore lack personal and democratic maturity. But I can also well imagine that this quasi religious belief in the blessings of academic expertise is the result of a one-sided fixation on the academic transfer of knowledge. Especially because the science of history is an interpretive science, a science that is dynamic and whose findings often depend on the social context in which they were formulated. The science of history can never assume the rank of empirical science. For this reason alone, a reference to the solely valid point of view of the history experts is forbidden. And that's exactly why it is nonsense that such "experts" should precede my own thinking and have to educate the "stupid" plebs. No expert can replace critical thinking, historical experience and wisdom. At most, these "experts" can provide food for thought and detailed information. In the end, I have to put the mosaic together myself.
@@giostisskylas If you are not in the far right political spectrum, then what is your motive for getting so upset about the current consensus of historiography? Give me an example. Why do you call experts "experts"? Do you get upset about other school subjects as well? Since knowledge is not simply replaceable by thinking, it cannot be replaced by independent thinking. You can't come to an accurate interpretation if you don't know the whole picture. No one is saying that you are personally responsible for history. For the future, of course. I have nothing against critical thinking as long as it is applied consistently. And that starts with the critical questioning of oneself. The idea that you could just (even better) "puzzle together" what thousands of historians have worked on over many decades is absurd and does not exactly testify to critical thinking.
I think a reminder that we should all stop having pointless wars and those who decide to send a unit into combat should know that they would be held accountable.
@@jimmydoesgermany5856 don’t think you are doing those killed on the allied side by calling it pointless The Germans and then Nazi Germany have caused the 2 biggest event and largest losses of life in the history of the world, purely trying to dominate and enslave others with ideology, no different to ISIS Those people planted there, are planted for good reason, they were part of a regime which sought to control and kill people from the free world Who didn’t meet their ideal
The wars I’m calling pointless are the recent wars, ones that I and many friends had been sent to. Ones which many who have been on the ground have questioned why we had been sent. The reasons for the allied forces going to war in WW2 wasn’t pointless and I did not say that.
Blödsinn. Die Polen haben damit angefangen, als sie zwischen den Kriegen Deutsche vertrieben oder auch umgebracht haben. Informiert euch mal lieber was in den 20er und 3üer Jahren des letzten Jahrhunderts passierte.
Normally every German village has a war monument for remembering the fallen from both world wars. Most likely with the names from the village on it. But this place seems to be special in honoring also the victims from other countries who lost their lives in that area.
You are absolutely correct, I was surprised to see this garden of remembrance because it seemed a little different to the remembrance Statues that are present in other villages.
Yes that's a good cemetery.
Thank You. That was very nice. Very well done and said.
We don't have such a huge ground where I live, but each bigger town has a memorial, mostly a stone column, where the names of the fallen in both big wars are engraved. They are mostly surrounded by flowers, which the community pays a gardener for to take care of.
I was surprised to see this relatively large area. I often see the village columns Which are always clean.
@@jimmydoesgermany5856 Yea, that surprised me too. I didn't know that we have such large cemeteries here in Germany, but, well, I haven't been everywhere, although I traveled a lot. So once again, thank you for this video.
If you would be once in the cologne area, I could give you a guide through the Hürtgenwald ("Battle of hurtgen forrest"), a scene of several months of fighting between germans and americans. There are some big Wargraveyards but also some single graves in the forest, also lots of german bunkers and many foxholes and trenches...a very interesting area with lots of stories and signs of a very dark past....
That is a wonderful offer once all of this pandemic passes, thank you.
@@jimmydoesgermany5856 Would be a pleasure for me..I know the area quite well...the family owns a weekend house in that area...so I've been there since birth... :-)
@@towaritch - that insanity comes from mental illness, so you’ll have to overlook the politics of that 🤪❗️
thanks for the video!
True words: Wars are horrible! Not only for soldiers, also for the civil population.
I like the idea where they buried the former enemies side by side to each other. For me, this is a small sign of reconciliation.
May they rest in peace, wherever they are now.
Thanx for this vid.
Very sad every german soldier fought for their country may they rest in peace and be remembered
Have you been to "Ehrenfriedhof Heidelberg", a WW I cemetery? It is above the southern part of town on a hill, near EMBL, the European Molecular Biology Laboratory and MPI f. Kernphysik. The area is really nice for a walk. When it is warm and the restaurants reopen, you could eat and drink quite nicely in the nearby beergarden of "Bierhelder Hof", a place where romantic poets (Joseph von Eichendorf) and musicians in the 19th century used to walk to.
I have not visited those places but have just added them to my list, Thank you
German soldiers seemed to say "Love us like friends ... without us no one would call you winners".
I pity all the life wasted from the wars
The German speaking part of Belgium was awarded to Belgium after the First World War, but reverted back to Germany during the Second World War and then back to Belgium after the war ended. In that part of Belgium, the Belgian flag flies over memorials to the dead of both wars. The dead listed fought on the German side in both wars.
By the way, the German speakers in Belgium are quite content to be Belgians now.
You are correct that we need to remember what happened in the past so it doesn't happen again.
i wonder what kind of tragic story is related with this grave @ 5:22 a german girl which died in 1947 just 35 years old
Unfortunately I could not see any other information about those who have been placed there. I can imagine that each of them have an interesting story.
Did you happen to record any memorial statues to the fallen German Soldiers? The "Friedhof" hope I got that spelled right! Is a nice tour! Danke!
According to the sign at 1.48, German soldiers and victims of bombing raids are buried here along with prisoners of war from the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia and polish and yugoslav forced laborers who died in work camps. Among the forced laborers are numerous women and children, some only 2 years old. Children would be taken along when the mothers were selected for forced labor. Apparently, there were even "familiy" work camps. 2-year-old Galja Fedotenko is one of the kids buried here. Also among those interred here are former inmates of a labor camp that were arrested for homosexuality, treason, desertion, listening to enemy radio broadcasts or spreading anti-nazi leaflets. One of them was dutchman Marinus Derven.
Thank you for your help, I really appreciate the information, it helps me to fill many questions that I had. I never knew that young children accompanied the mother.
German war cemetries normally are in foreign countries. Because mostly we were the aggressors. But, we have a monument in every community with a list of the fallen. I assume the Russians and Ukrainians were POWs and the german solders died in the last days of war.
Reading through names on those village monuments makes us realize how many generations of the same family had been lost in the first and second world wars.
German were not only the aggressors, they were also the losers of both world wars and the winners agreed on how German war graves had to look like. For example in France the allied have often single wide / bright stone crosses for the fallen of WW1 while the Germans only were allowed black wooden crosses and not a single cross for every soldier.
Not true .. nearly every city here has got a war cementry. in my city every single graveyard has one part with graves out of that time . so nope ...not true ...
This is touched me as the soldiers of Germany who died for defending their country because of WWII. We know that war left us Unforgettable disructions every where
Take a trip to Lommel German War Cemetery, 40000+ Germans there.
Anna is also a mans name in certain parts of northern Europe.
Well...
It seems to me mate, that YOU sir live around my corner 😜
And a wonderful place to live indeed 😊
SEEING HOW THE WAR CEMETARY'S IN SOME PARTS OF GERMANY, ARE EXTREMELY WELL KEPT, WITH A REGULAR DESIGN OF MEMORIAL HEADSTON, OF SUPERIOR QUALITY, I'M SURPRISED THAT THIS CEMETARY IS SO POORLY KEPT AND PRESENTED.
Why do you scream?
@@dieterdodel835 I know an older fellow who has had a stroke. It left him paralyzed on one side. To make it easier on himself, he had a choice of typing all in lowercase or in all caps. He chose all caps.
i did a tour with the Deutscher Bund für Kriegsgräberfürsorgeto clean and care for war graves. most of the war cemetaries in germany are in very bad shape. it's relied on volunteers to keep them. there's hardly any funds directed towards keeping these graves in decent condition.
Makes me sad and furious every time! German way of looking after their own....😠See the cemeteries in other countries. They all gave their lives for some government or system. They all wanted to live. Its shameful to see german dead so neglected. They died twice, on the battlefield and a second time, in the memory of their cuntry...
Did you recently move to Germany?
Jimmy how did you end up in Germany?
I took a job offer which allowed me to collect data for my university research paper and ended up staying.
The germans have a lot to answer for
@Indigenous Advocate. , yes, all the innocents slaughtered by uk and france in europe , Russia and America! Total ww2 dead 85 million, caused by the uk and france!
Seriously!!!???
...AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!
But you can put such statues in a museum where they can be shown in the right context. If they are integrated into everyday life without commentary, this does not really lead to historical education. We don't put Hitler statues everywhere to not forget WW2.😅
Very true
I totally disagree with that. I don't want to be "educated", but decide for myself how I classify German history. Education sounds like Reichspropaganda Ministry to me. The mere assumption that the German population should be educated is disconcerting, undemocratic and a mockery of the responsible citizen. If a state believes it has to educate its citizens, it is a declaration of bankruptcy for democracy in that country. All statued, scultures and memorials should remain unreservedly in their context. The story does NOT belong in the museums.
@@giostisskylas You can only classify and evaluate historical events yourself if you know all the details about them and see them in the right context. If you are not a full-time historian, you will not be able to do this for time reasons alone. You are therefore dependent on experts for interpretation and classification. You would not presume to know better than your doctor either? To equate education based on expert knowledge with brainwashing is ridiculous and is mainly propagated in right-wing extremist circles to promote and justify historical revisionism. To believe that you can come to a realistic understanding of history by looking at incoherently tiny fragments like statues is arrogant and stupid. (de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger-Effekt ) Democracy can only really work with well educated people.
@@yasminesteinbauer8565 Do the children from the Juste Milieu actually get diligence cards for the inflationary use of the R-word? To construct a right-wing extremist context is pathetic. When using such empty words, a discussion becomes completely pointless. And that is perhaps the intention of educated bourgeois patrons. It saves you having to think independently. The assumption that only academically trained specialists could interpret history is truly terrific. Then I can absolve myself of any responsibility for the history of Germany. The "experts" will fix it. Can you read my understanding of history from the few lines I have written? Definitely not? Your assumption that I, as a possibly historical layperson, could not have any historical overview and would only interpret history according to historical fragments that I have perceived, is extremely arrogant. I assume that you are still younger and therefore lack personal and democratic maturity. But I can also well imagine that this quasi religious belief in the blessings of academic expertise is the result of a one-sided fixation on the academic transfer of knowledge. Especially because the science of history is an interpretive science, a science that is dynamic and whose findings often depend on the social context in which they were formulated. The science of history can never assume the rank of empirical science. For this reason alone, a reference to the solely valid point of view of the history experts is forbidden. And that's exactly why it is nonsense that such "experts" should precede my own thinking and have to educate the "stupid" plebs. No expert can replace critical thinking, historical experience and wisdom. At most, these "experts" can provide food for thought and detailed information. In the end, I have to put the mosaic together myself.
@@giostisskylas If you are not in the far right political spectrum, then what is your motive for getting so upset about the current consensus of historiography? Give me an example. Why do you call experts "experts"? Do you get upset about other school subjects as well?
Since knowledge is not simply replaceable by thinking, it cannot be replaced by independent thinking. You can't come to an accurate interpretation if you don't know the whole picture. No one is saying that you are personally responsible for history. For the future, of course.
I have nothing against critical thinking as long as it is applied consistently. And that starts with the critical questioning of oneself. The idea that you could just (even better) "puzzle together" what thousands of historians have worked on over many decades is absurd and does not exactly testify to critical thinking.
They are a good reminder, for Germans NOT to start wars 👍🏻
I think a reminder that we should all stop having pointless wars and those who decide to send a unit into combat should know that they would be held accountable.
@@jimmydoesgermany5856 don’t think you are doing those killed on the allied side by calling it pointless
The Germans and then Nazi Germany have caused the 2 biggest event and largest losses of life in the history of the world, purely trying to dominate and enslave others with ideology, no different to ISIS
Those people planted there, are planted for good reason, they were part of a regime which sought to control and kill people from the free world
Who didn’t meet their ideal
The wars I’m calling pointless are the recent wars, ones that I and many friends had been sent to. Ones which many who have been on the ground have questioned why we had been sent. The reasons for the allied forces going to war in WW2 wasn’t pointless and I did not say that.
Wars plural? They "only " started the Second World War.
Blödsinn. Die Polen haben damit angefangen, als sie zwischen den Kriegen Deutsche vertrieben oder auch umgebracht haben. Informiert euch mal lieber was in den 20er und 3üer Jahren des letzten Jahrhunderts passierte.
Meanwhile in America where getting rid of as many memorials as possible.
Trying to destroy our history in America too
It is a concerted world effort