(Top 4) Dr. Martens 1460 Boots - [LEATHER REVIEW] - "doc marten"
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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Dr. Marten 1460 leather review from a leather worker. Doc marten 1460 are world famous but are they really that great? I look at 4 different leathers used by doc martin and see which leather is best and if the they are worth the price.
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Smooth - amzn.to/30vablb
Hardlife - amzn.to/2v1CiN5 (closest thing to hardlife, they were discontinued)
Made in England - www.drmartens....
Horween Dublin - Unfortunately these have been discontinued
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Nah. You think thursday boots are good quality 😂😂 shittest goodyear welted boots i have tried in my life i have boots that cost 1/3 of the price that where better quality ffs
*sits here while he insults the shoes I’m wearing*
Elisabeth Case you have them on?
Lol I did when I posted that comment. Still love the shoes in case you were wondering, (although I dough you were)
Same, although they're several year old hand me downs so I'm not sure which they are
I’m looking into getting a pair. Which model do you have and how much do you love them? The made in England ones cost like double the cheap ones....
AmyX Honestly I’m probably the wrong one to be asking, and I’m not sure what model I have, but for what I know, 1. I don’t have the England made ones, and I’m betting they last longer, not sure if they are worth the price since I didn’t get them 2. I love my shoes, but do wear thick/ long socks or your feet will be blistered
Being a shoe repairer for the last 35 years I have seen a lot of Doc's I can tell you the most common problem out of all Doc's is the plastic finish of the corrected grain leather cracking across the flexpoint at the ball of the foot. In my opinion any kind of feeding the leather doesn't work because it cant penetrate through the plastic type finish, avoid that leather and always go for a leather where you can see the grain and isn't stiff from the outset.
What brand/style do you recommend for women's everyday wear? Casual walking around town.
are you talking about the vegan leather?
@@DB-xo6xh when you say brand, we are talking about Doc Martins here. As for style, there are many styles you can choose from just don't go for the cardboard looking corrected grain. Anything that feels soft where the natural look of leather can be seen is better.
P.S. The ones at the beginning ouf the video look like corrected grain
@@46thandBliss No, there are some very good vegan leathers out there, however for vegan don't choose the old vinyl style, that is plastic covered fabric, plastic is not eco friendly and it usually cracks and peels in a short period of time. plant based ones that i have worked with and seem to be stong are mushroom and cactus
@@supercobbler4712 Thanks. I was asking about Docs as well as other good leather brands that stand the test of time. Like 1 pair or 2 pairs of boots that are good to have for a shoe minimalist. I like to rotate my daily wear often because letting your shoes dry and air out is important for its overall life span. I know Docs aren't the bequest, in terms of value and build but I still have like 4 pairs and have had more in the past but I hoping to hear about something new, like to Solovairs were new to me but now that I think of it, I may have owned an Oxblood pair like 15 years ago that I got thrifted but I let a friend borrow them.....then that was goodbye. Thanks for your comment!
I bought the Dublin last year, knew it was a good decision. I'm glad you approve ! this saying has taught me well : if you buy cheap you buy twice !
Insults aside to the boots that I love, it was a great video to watch. Especially hearing someone who knows leather talking about them. I will say this though, those cheap smooth Doc Martens not to buy, have lasted me 8 years now through walking across rocks and almost every day wearing them. So they might feel fake, but they have worked amazing!
This is exactly why I trust comments research more than a review
I have the smooth ones too. Mine is 13 years old and still looks good to this day.
at least he wasted money trying to make a top notch quality video it shows dedication
I do all the shopping so you dont have to ha ha
@@RoseAnvil a man wasting money on a product he does not enjoy (to share his honest opinion) is a repectful man worthy of the attention of other people. i also really enjoyed the video.
@@retr0895 thanks man, did you see the latest video?
@@RoseAnvil At the sound of the bell man. (well not sound, but notification) I did. Even though I enjoy Dr. Martens as a brand, I do find my self asking if its a good idea to buy a new pair every year thanks to the new video. (I do buy a new pair every time the ones i have get ugly and destroyed.) Its interesting to see inside the boot, which I dont think anyone really tries to. Also, i want to comment on the fact that you used a blade to cut open the boot. I was thinking that you where most likely gonna use a table saw. To my suprise you used a blade. What a madman. But it also shows the durability of the boots. Being able to be cut open like that. Your video really is making me view things in a very different perspective. [I also now realized It looks like I wrote a school paper, being that long.]
I was just as surprised as you were when i could cut the dr marten soles so easily ha ha i had planned to use a bandsaw
"don't ever buy these" was clickbaity.
*never buy these
I was baited and so I clicked. "Don't ever" or "never" be one'n'th same!
Especially because he seems to not understand that Docs are not dress shoes.
@@maxsjoberg788 nice
Max Sjöberg 😃
I wore my docs every day for five years and they only got more comfortable until the bottom split. I still wore them!
Put some shoe goo in that split and keep rocking them!
Get them resoled
Put a hot knife on the bottom.
@@penelope-oe2vr I think rubber cement would work!
Their nice boots especially for women but the quality is cheap I wore my white ones twice and they were already cracking up even doe they still look new cuz I wear them maybe twice a year it’s the first and last pair for me
Im almost 60, and started wearing them at 13, although our school banned them🤣 The problems started when they moved all their production offshore, and the leather quality plummeted. I think the sales pressure from brands like Solovair, who used to produce Docs under contract, saw them introduce the made in England line. I swapped to Solov's and to be honest never looked back.
Why did the school ban them? Or did they ban boots in general?
@@snackyxchan it wasn't just the school, until the mid 90's you couldn't get into alot of clubs or clubs with them on. It was because back then pretty much the only people who wore them were Skinheads, and I think we gave them a bad name🤔
@@saxon3980 clock comes full circle in my house - my daughter wears DM's now - by choice(!) she loves them - when I was a lad, it was (indeed) skinheads (and the trouble from people who disliked them(!!!) - not all skinheads were racist!- most weren't!) who they were associated with, then the mods came along and adopted them too(!)
@@saxon3980 so you're a skinhead 🤣 got it
They were banned in my secondry school to back in 1993 one of the teachers saw me wearing them but i think it was because they were boots not shoes
It's nice to watch a vid from someone who genuinely likes leather and understands that you want to see unique inclusions (like in a gemstone) that show the true quality of the leather and that it's not fake. Good stuff.
Thank you!
@@RoseAnvil What about Nappa, Virginia and Crazy Horse leather? The leather you reviewed doesn't even exist, I can't find either the Horween or the Hard Life. What does come up are the three leathers I mentioned.
if you ordered the vegan boots they're not leather.
hence the word vegan
Sound logic
@Eric Ericson
just answering somebody's comments about vegans being leather or not .They apparently deleted their comment.
The vegan leather boots are made from leather off cows that ate only grass and hay, a pure vegetable diet. The cows are subsequently made from grass and hay, and therefore qualify as vegan.
Hence I don't buy them.
no they are leather, they just wont eat eggs.
technically all dr martens are vegan as they wont eat eggs, but the vegan ones are actually tested in the lab, where they try to feed the boots eggs, and then they can certify they are vegan.
they will also waste away over time, this way you can tell they are vegan.
I bought my docs in '99, and over the years I haven't treated the leather very good, and yes after 24 years the leather is cracking but are still very wearable (has the lugged styled outsole) and fit like a glove. I would rate mine as a 10/10 for the years served and value. I am looking at Solovaires when it comes time to replace them, because they have that lugged outsole still.
They are Goodyear Welt. I have been in almost every DM factory, and can confirm.
"I didn't like their boots because they felt cheap. So i bought 4". Bruh what
It was for science ha ha
😂😂
Hahaha 😂
Time saver 🙌
if you can't see why he bought four then idk what to tell you man
I was the same. Walked in to the mall only to be disappointed in the quality. Didn't know they had higher quality versions. This review helped a lot. Thanks so much!
Wait till you see the next video...
Thank you for your information and time. 👍🏼😊
I’ve purchased my first pair of Dr Martens in 1995, I still own them and wear them.The 1460 is the original Dr. Martens Boot. Made with instantly recognizable features: 8 eyes, classic Dr. Martens . There was a breaking in period, I’ve always taken very good care in conditioning them and I kept them clean. Had no problems with them deteriorating.
I’m on the hunt for a new pair different style.
I bought mine in 2000. Lasted twenty years then they finally gave out...most of the Docs are now made in China - total cheap pieces of shit.
1995 ones were made by Solovair, they also had a proper shank..modern Docs, including the English made ones are essentially leather fashion trainers, they have no shank and the midsole isn't leather, its foam. If you want a pair of boots like your 1995 ones then you need to buy a pair of Solovair Classics which are made like Docs were pre 1995.
I have been wearing doc martens since my age of 14 (30 years at this point).
They never disappointed me. The longest lasting one was 11 years old.
I would recommend them for anyone
What do you think about the 1461s
Would you recommend only the made in England ones ore every shoe?
I had a couple of pairs that lasted over 10 years, a friend of mine has still got a pair he got when he was 15 he's 65 now he's had them resoled a couple of times apart from that, nothing wrong
Dr. Martens built to last for sure 👍🏼
Yeah that was the 90’s grandpa today everything is mass produced as cheaply as possible like doc martens
Yeah I'll be sure and never again buy the 1460's that I've now had for 16 years.
Lol
El depends what you do in them , if you actually wear boots for work and it’s not a “fashion statement “ I wouldn’t recommend the 1460 smooth . They are hardly slip resistant ,their compound for the sole is cheap and will wear quickly , the foam in the sole breaks down cell by cell (even if they look new ) they’re done . Not to mention the heel counter has been known to eat ankles when new . So sure if you want to impress the folks at the office around the water cooler then they’re okay
You cannot guarentee the same quality, year to year, it called cutting costs !
33cattt # wich one you recommend? Wanted to buy a pair in color brown
Ab Best Places of the look is what you want w durability I’d go with Solovair or Gripfast. They own the original lasts and tooling of Dr Martens . Dr Marten owns the namesake but makes their boots in Vietnam. When they make the UK stuff I find them hit or miss and inconsistent . I don’t know if they update their lasts or move factories but they don’t feel consistent . I’m in the shoe business and deal with tooling fit tests and prototypes and o can tell you Dr marten sole compound isn’t very durable . Hope this helped
DM's are far too expensive, in the early 70s they were cheap, before they were in vogue and they were just work boots.
i wish they were still cheap!
Yeah, I mind even in the 90s they were cheaper than Caterpillars and Kickers ;0
Eric Ericson yeah, even designer gear is made in China now, stone island etc made in Bulgaria and so on. They bang on about labour, bs as it’s all about overheads.
My mum nearly had a heart attack having to pay £9 for my first pair in 1973 lol😂
Smerd1 ;0
I wanna be 15 and excited about Doc Martens again.
me being 15 and excited about doc martens 👁👄👁
I'm 25 and I just got into them I'm excited.
me being 15 and excited about my new doc martens😳
I’m 15- is this a sign to feel grateful for still being young in life?
You can still wearing these no matter how old you are.
I have mine for 8 years now and never been happier. It takes time to soften the leather, maybe a year or so. Comfortable. Can’t fault it. Got it from Doc Marten’s at Covent Garden, 2012.
I mis-read the title, thought it said boobs, big disappointment
1460 BOOBS!?
Rose Anvil you sold me. Do they fit TTS? Should I go have a size up or down?
Yesssss. Get them Kade!! Weston can pipe in with his opinion from a men’s standpoint, but with the pair I have I would say that they run slightly big. In normal shoes I’m a 7-7.5ish, or 8 if I want to wear thick socks. I got my Doc Martens in a 7 and I can still wear a thick sock with them and they feel great.
Rachel Howell ok good. I made the mistake of getting my redwing boots just a titch too big and they were so hard to break it. This video is great.
Oh yeah that’s a bummer. And Red Wings are such an investment! These hardly have a break in period and the toe box is super roomy and comfy. You’ll love them.
I had no idea they've moved manufacturing to Asia but it makes so much sense now. I own a 12 years old pair of classic English docs and they hardly look worn on the outside. I recommended to a friend to consider getting a pair too as she wanted nicer-looking combat boots. She got in August 2019 a Rick Griffin collab model (because they were "nicer" than the classic) and I honestly don't know what manufacturing they got, but in October already, the boots had white lines of worn off paint where the foot flexes at the toes. She tried contacting customer support about it, but no response. Less than 10 wears and already look like shit.
It's a shame about the quality because, I really like the style.
People who have had them said they’ve owned the pair for about 20 years
@@josiah7499 Yea, the OLD ones.
@@josiah7499 that might be true, if they stayed inside for 20yrs LoL
Your video helped me pick out a second hand pair of made in England 1490s. I learnt to look for the grooves created from the goodyear welting machine and to differentiate that from the cheaper dr martens from your video! Would never have known about that if it weren't for you. Thanks a ton
I have a pair of DM's I have worn for over 20 years . I once walked from the top of Broadway to battery park in them . They are the best boots I ever had .
Daaaang that’s awesome
I haven't wore anything else from the early 80s lol except for trainers in the summer they are cool as fuck with turn ups like us old punks wear em 😎
so you walked down Broadway from 110 to the Battery its down hill on concrete i do not see the big accomplishment did you take the ferry too
@@robjames2605 Oh dear Rob you seem very butt hurt over something. I wasnt commenting over how tough or how amazing my walking skills were . I was just remarking on a fond memory . Now if I wanted to brag about my hiking skills . I could tell you about the Inca trail . Or maybe the grand circuit in Torres del panie . Or some of the mad trails I did in NZ on the south island walking out to west coast . But compared to what my friend used to have to do in a light infantry regiment while in Afghanistan my walking feats are pure bollocks . Now my friend just chill and be happy .
@@cyberbiker007 nice!!
I really have to correct you. I've deconstructed about 20 pairs of Dr. Martens Boots (Made in UK, China, Thailand & Macao) and i have to tell you that they were and are all Goodyear welted. The only part of the shoe where they use Glue, is where the insole is glued to the part where the yellow stitching is. (Don't know the english word for it) After that the sole is melted to this part. The Made in Uks had a wooden shank. The China and the Thailand Boot did not have a shank. And i really have to say the horween ones are fantastic.
Awesome thank for the info. I just checked the Uk site and their listings matched what you said about them being goodyear welted. I just added a correction comment to the top. The two pairs i have that were made in england don't have a shank (or at least a shank that has any support) I can easily bend the boot at the heel, where you would expect the shank to add some strength. I wonder if they have changed them since you had a pair from England.
Although it's good year welted,the stitch density is extremely low .And I'm also wondering does it has cork in it.
Thanks for sharing that info. I think I’m going to buy a used pair and tear them apart and see what’s what
Marcus_Berger
True...and the Chinese drM (for me) had best leather, cuz I like shining boots (smooth)
Sooo I cut one in half... ua-cam.com/video/DOVPuA4qZ68/v-deo.html
I've had my pair from the mall for over ten years and they're still going strong. I don't know anything about leather, but they are my work boots and I love them.
omg I’ve been torn on this exact question and the Internet is pretty devoid on info on this thank you for covering this
You are welcome!
“This leather...is the best leather....” 😂😂😂 thank you for that I cracked up
At least someone enjoyed it ha ha
@@RoseAnvil it was eloquent.😉
I like how much this video teaches about the different qualities of leather. I learned a lot. Thanks.
We need a top ten boots brand video from you. I never knew about wolverine or other brands that you have mentioned in the past
Been wearing a pair every day for over a year and a half and they have lasted way longer than other “better quality” ones that ended up with holes in the soles after 6 months (I walk a lot). Love DMs!
That’s really interesting
id love to see a pair of boots with thick rubber or pvc soles like these that you walked through in 6 months ...leather soles are different, and are not indicative of "bad quality"
Chyrnobyl66 never said they had thick soles - only that they were what people called “high quality” - stand by my statement- DMs best I’ve ever worn
The last pair you opend I like really well. My dad got them when he was 32 and hes 44. I recently got them and im 14 now. My dad brushed them everyday and the look brand new after 12 years of use.
That’s amazing, I’m jealous
The made in England range hasn’t been going for 12 years
Scott Says well they have been around since 1960 so😳
Scott Says all the boots were made in england before the early 2000s!
I’m going down the rabbit hole with you on leather . So fun to see get so excited about the leather and the boots. I can feel your passion and dedication to your craft . Cheers
Finally! An honest assessment of Dr Martins, much appreciated. They've been getting cheaper in their construction for years.
I’m surprised he didn’t review the Pascals. I feel like those are the ones you always see in stores
I’ll do those next time!
Pascals are women’s
Yeah, Pascals have a slightly narrower form, for a lower volume foot. A women's version.
Rose Anvil yes please review the Pascals w comparisons.
@@meganroose9135 there are men's pascals too, their leather looks premium tbh.. but they are nowhere to be found.. they are sold out in a freakin day as soon as they come out
we gotta really appreciate this channel, i don't think many would do what he do for us
Many people don't realize how important it is to keep the leather conditioned, whether low-end Docs or high-end. Although Docs have their own conditioners, I use Bick 4 leather cleaner and conditioner and never had a crack issue nor will it darken your boots. All leather will crack if neglected.
I waxed my boots in the military. They still ended up cracked. Nice try though.
In my experience the cracks happened when leather is quickly dried. If they remain hydrated either by foot sweat, linseed oil or conditioner they will outlast the souls.
Conditioners would be for shoes that are only worn every so often & utilize shoes trees to slow the drying time.
@@smokinhot1974 wax won't do for leather what oils will do for leather. If you had oiled them very well before you waxed them it might have worked better. And you might not have even wanted to wax them after you oiled them.
Can you test cheap “fast fashion” shoes. I recently bought Zara boots and they feel alright but I never had an “expensive” boot, so I don’t know how much better those shoes are compared to cheaper ones.
no don’t support fast fashion
It would be a waste of time to test them. They come this moment but will disappear soon. Why test them?
not everyone has the money to shop ethically
@@milktea2740 i doubt he has the time to cut those shoes that last 6 months or less or only available kn the market for about the same time. Did you see how he bashed Carhatt boots recently? If he cut (say Aldo) boots it won’t be a happy review at all. Plus he needs views to support his channel. Not sure how many cheap shoes would generate enough views to break even for him..
@@milktea2740 Shopping at thrift stores is cheap and ethical. I’m not saying that you can’t shop at fast fashion ever, but don’t make excuses.
thanks for this! Years ago I had a great pair of Made in England Docs tie shoes that I eventually gave away, and regret. So I have been considering the boot and you have given me a very helpful review.
Should have done a pair of Solovair as well. They made Doc Martens back when they were all great quality.
I had honestly never heard of them until i did this video ha ha
Still not great leather though. That plastic looking coating it awful and 'leather' on Doc's and Solovair is thin.
I have been a Doc fan since the 90s, and I barely found out about solovair about a month ago. My jaw dropped when I found out they originally made docs. Now I'm itching to buy a pair of solovairs.
Rose Anvil Martens was a license or a patent from a german doctor. There is no only a Dr martens brand but at least 2 solovair and the regulars. solocvair etill mades them in england, they never left, although I supposed they were centered in the british market. When in my teens, in Madrid, they were extremely hard to find and only in military style shops the stock. them, even when you travelled to londo, back then, they were not in Camden stores, but in other regular , not tourist oriented outlets
Came here to ask this question 👍🏽 would love to see a review on Solovair
Seeing all 4 of the boots lined up reminds me of the parks & rec episode where Tom & Jean Ralphio laugh in Jerry’s face about not knowing the various shades of black 🤣
LMAO!!😂
Hi it’s Claudia from MilanI have been wearing Dott. Martens since 1987 ,it is true the made has change has well the style ,it nearly impossible to find the shoes or the boots with steel toe .Your explanation has been easy to comprehend ,has well I think majority of the production is not anymore in England .I tend to buy even second hand old ones as well in the past I sold my ones ,I must say there is nothing so durable as well as Doct Martens (maybe Caterpillars but it’s another story anyway) and if are the real ones ,with your help and description the people would understand better which one they should go for .
I would just like to hear how it feels after youve worn them for a while
I love the different perspective here (an expert in leather reviewing leather, you could run with this idea on other boot lines fyi!) its not just a kid in his basement saying "its good/its bad". Im honestly surprised the leather quality varies that much between Docs.
Apart from leather quality though, its worth noting the soles are really different too. Not just the goodyear welt aspect but the quality of rubber. My sister had a pair of the cheaper 1460s where the soles totally split in half horizontally along the whole sole in less than a year of sporadic wear. Ive looked into it and the sole splitting issue is common amongst the China made ones. That is dreadful and a much worse problem than surface appearance of leather IMO.
I bought docs and wore them every day for 2 years. They never "broke in". It's now 10 years later and I still have scars on my ankles from the awful blisters they gave me 😬🤦♀️
I brought pair of boots 24 years ago, worn them constantly after work and weekends well over 15 of them, still going strong
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I have a pair that I bought in Carnaby Street, London in 1984. They are totally smooth on the bottom but STILL wearable. Proper old skool DM quality.
@@paulandrews7622 great huh, I feel like my new ones feel more plastic this time round but unsure!
I’ve been wearing DMs for 25 years and I have to say I love them.
they are cool
Same
Isaac Melgar Birkenstock and Docs!!
Dang! i wish i saw this video first before buying the smooth ones 2 days ago....
×2
I had the smooth ones for three years, and they are in good condition (they survived a hellfest and I wore them 4 times a week)
Was thinking the same thing, but as long as the glue on sole doesn’t become unglued I won’t be mad.
The smooths say this on their site
This is a Goodyear-welted product. The upper and sole are heat-sealed and sewn together, not merely glued like many footwear constructions.
Ive been wearing the same smooth ones for nearly 9 years now and they have actually worn very well and are in really great condition for how long i've been regularly wearing them. Haven't had any issues at all, so i feel this video is a little misleading as he hasn't even worn the shoes he is critiquing.
I own a small leather craft business and before shops got shut, i popped in to have a look at they're shoes & was not overly impressed with the quality of leather!
Me: *agrees with every point he makes about doc martens and their leathers*
Also me: *impulse buys 4th doc marten boots*
@Van Damage bahhhhh bahhhhh
Dr Martens haven’t been good since they went to China... got a pair in the 90’s they are boss! Get only the England ones.
Did you see my vintage boot tear down?
Do a chinese knock-off vs the real Dr. Martens. The difference would be interesting.
I still got three (2 red, 1 blue) made in England pairs from the 90´s and two of them are in pristine condition. The other one is not that well but its my fault cause I didn´t treat them well.
Rose Anvil I did not
Damn I just realized I´m wrong. Four pairs, 2 red , 2 blue 1460 8 eyes. Absurdly, one of the red (early 2000´s) pair is like new and partially unbroken, just used them like twice and applied Wonder Balsam maybe once every two years. Yeah, I´m that lazy :D Interesting videos, certainly many UA-cam stuff on Martens look pretty much amateur.
This is interesting. I’m from the UK and have been wearing DMs since I was a child. Until about 20 years ago all their shoes were made in Northampton but the quality of the leather has suffered since that stopped. Until a few years ago their UK shop offered four versions of the 1460, “For Life”, which came with a lifetime guarantee to repair or replace, “Vintage”, “Vegan” and “Smooth”. Now only the latter three are available here, so we get less choice. I did buy a pair of Smooth boots a while back but only paid £28 for them. To be frank I didn’t think they were worth more. I certainly wouldn’t pay the £139 they ask for them now.
Just buy Solovairs, still made in UK
@@gregpingu4156 Most Solovairs have crap high shine leather.
Anybody else binge watching Rose Anvil during quarantine? Or just me? 😂
Your opening really hits on the problem with the majority of UA-cam videos. They really don’t know what they’re talking about.
I'm a skinhead from England and I've warn DM's since 1980, I've owned many pares over the years and the boots have changed slightly over the years but mainly the thickness of the sole and stitching. I recommend 14 eye cherry reds, I've had a pare which I still wear from time to time since 1988 and they're still going strong.
They are all Goodyear welted. And they are all heat treated to melt the sole on permanently. They can only be resoled by grinding down the old sole and glueing on a new one.
Thanks for the info. I am really interested to see what’s inside of them
Rose Anvil the inside of the sole looks like a waffle. That’s what they call air soles because of the spaces for air. They are very simple. No shank. Thin insole.
Because this video did so well I think I’m going to do a video of cutting one in half to see what’s really going on
The plan is to do it Monday 🤫
I posted the vid of cutting one in half! ua-cam.com/video/DOVPuA4qZ68/v-deo.html
I have two pairs of Doc Martins..I've wanted a pair for a long time. The first pair I bought was the Pascal Leather..you didn't talk about them but they are soft from the start, no breaking them in, they have a texture to the leather, not all shiny smooth, I got them in Cherry Red, but they are more of a beautiful wine color. There's no separate piece sewed around the top ankle area just a raw cut/finish top. The shoe laces match perfectly. So, those boots are better than I ever imagined that they would be. A couple months later I thought I"d get the black patent leather ones. I ordered these and they are beautiful looking although they has a narrow piece of leather sewed along the top cut edge where the laces start. They have black laces but yellow/gold stitching on the sole. They say that they are leather with a treatment on the surface but no way! These boots look great but are so stiff and uncomfortable I don't know if I could ever wear them! They feel like thick plastic. On the tongue it says Made in LAO POR ??? I don't know if they are knockoffs or not? They have the black and gold tab at the top..It says "AirWair with soles bouncing"
Similar experience. I think those pascals r made with the same leather as hardlife usually. My first pair of docs were hardlife For Life boots. Absolutely loved them, no breaking them in, wore them everywhere, light hiking, to the beach, lots of miles on them in the concrete jungle. The tread wore down flat and smooth and they became a hazard so while i waited for my warranty replacement i ordered 1460s in patent leather TOO. Horrible. Was never able to break them in, the stupid tongue is sown onto the shoe with thick overlap and not enough wiggle room. It hurt my higher instep. The leather is not forgiving at all, super inflexible and prone to cracking, scratches and flaking off. My for life were a dream and i wasn’t that meticulous but it didnt feel like a chore to occasionally clean & condition. The leather patinead also. I kinda want to revamp the patent ones and sell them for a bargain, but the materials are an investment, i dont like throwing things out 😢
@@XIIxMysticxIIX I don't think the patent leather ones are wearable ever!
This is probably the only useful review of Dr. Martens on UA-cam
Nice review. If you want quality the Made In England (MIE) boots are the way to go. A few years ago I was looking at getting a pair of 1460s and wondered what the MIE had over the Far Eastern made boots. In London there's a famous boot/shoe shop called The British Boot Company, just outside Chalk Farm station on the Northern Line (Edgeware Branch). The guy showed me the differences and I was amazed. The UK leather (Quillion) - the same as the UK smooth version you reviewed, was a good twice as thick over the Far Eastern and the quality of the stitching and attention to detail and finish were excellent, compared to just OK with the non MIE boot. OK the MIE was more than twice the price at just about £200 but I guess the old adage of you get what you pay for comes to mind here. Sure the non-MIE will look OK as a fashion statement but quality is quality. I'm a big fan of the US brand Timberland, particularly their top end deck shoes - they just ooze quality throughout. Mine are made in the Dominican Republic and the quality control is first rate.
Smooth looks the best, cleaner without the fine wrinkles and uneven complexion.
Great video. Would love to see a video comparing the different leathers for the Chelsea Boot. Or compare the Chelsea boot with the Solovair Dealer along with other brands. Thanks and keep it up!
So, here's the deal. I bought a pair of 20 hole docs back in 1997. I wore the absolute hell out of those boots. I'm an equestrian, and have a lot of experience with a lot of leather boots meant to take some wear and tear. Im talking Roper, Ariat, Mountain Horse, etc. I have some serious horse boot experience, and nothing, I mean NOTHING, stood up to the hardiness of my old docs. For over a decade I wore those boots every day at the barn for everything from cleaning stalls to riding. Not only did the soles and insoles hold up, but the leather took the abuse with gusto. Yes, I cleaned and oiled them after every day at the barn, then I would buff them up with parade gloss and wear my barn boots to punk rock shows all weekend. Even hung chains around the ankles for music festivals, and afterward, was able to buff them up to perfection every time. Those boots took every bit of mud, horse manure, mosh pit, and thousands of hours on my feet, with just some responsible care. Now, 26 years later, those wonderful boots have just started to wear a small hole in the leather, right in the foot crease behind the toe, and the sole right at the ball of the foot has started to wear thin. I wanted to just repair my old 20 hole standby boots, so I sent an email to the company to see if they could replace the toe portion of leather on the boots, and replace the sole. I was asking to pay them to fix my ancient boots that I bought when I was 17 years old. I got some stupid stock email saying "Sorry you are unhappy with your boots. They are out of warranty." My entire email was about how much I loved my boots, and just wanted to pay the company to save them! What the hell?
So I decided to just keep my old boots for special occasions, and buy a new pair for every day wear. Unfortunately, they don't make 20 hole docs anymore. So I bought a pair of 10 holes to wear for going out on the weekends when I'm not working. I have had those boots for six months, and I only wear them on the weekends. The leather is absolutely not the same quality as the boots I bought over 25 years ago. It won't take the cleaning, oiling, or breaking in process at all. The stitching is the same pattern as my old boots, but not nearly the same quality. Bigger stitches that are already coming loose. I wore them for a very rare weekend outing to a theme park, and half an hour into the high walking requirements, the insole on the left boot came loose. I ended up walking for miles that day with a folded up insole under my foot.
What the hell happend to this company?
Now I'm trying to find a proper cobbler to repair my old boots for special occasions, and searching for a new brand for my weekend wear boots. So disappointing.
Write a novel dude 😂
Really informative, thank you.
I've been wearing the plasticky red ones for over a decade and now I know my next purchase will be a black with not corrected grain leather just to see how they age differently, thank you very much
my question is.. where does everyone get this information.. I believe doc martens always have said they are Goodyear welted tho
never seen someone so passionate about leather
Bought a pair of the six-eyelet Docs, with padded ankle, in 1988. I think they're the Saxon 939 model. These boots could be an advertisement for Doc Marten. They were hellishly expensive back then (about $200 in NZ). You could get Docs made under licence in NZ, but they were crap and fell apart. The English-made ones were regarded as bullet-proof. I looked after these boots like they were my child. After about 10 years, I had to get the ankle padding replaced. They could also do with a re-sole. But, the leather and comfort is extraordinary. They're like slippers to wear. I'll always be pleased at making that $200 investment, 32 years ago. I think the main problem with many great old manufacturing names, is that they've been bought out by soulless companies, which couldn't care less about heritage, quality and integrity. They just want to flog substandard products to the gullible.
I still have a pair of Docs that I bought in 2002. I still wear them once or twice per week, used to wear them more. They're still holding up pretty damn well. They've seen a lot of miles riding motorcycles and a lot of time on job sites. They're not perfect but they're damn good. A lot of the cheaper ones these days are not made nearly as well, you gotta go with made in England ones.
I still have a pair that I bought in 1997, and they’re still going. I treat them with Doc Marten wonder balsam before I store them away for the summer.
the "D" in "DUPONT" upon the wall behind you is askew.
Douchepont
I still have my oxblood 14 eyelet steel toes I bought in the mid eighties . They look pretty hammered and were never all that comfortable but were invaluable in the mosh pit .
Got my first pair in 87; and still have them. Gibsons . I’ve had10 nd 20 hole also. I appreciate good leather
There’s a big trend on minimal leather sneakers, most common in white finish, different price points from $70 all the way to $400, that will be an interesting video to watch coming from a leather expert.
Do have some brands I can look up?
I like that idea
Koio is a premium brand. Gustin is an American "crowd-funded" brand that also makes them, and they say the leather is sourced/shoes are made in Italy. Butts and Shoulders also makes a premium version. I'd love to own the Gustin sienna green low top here: www.weargustin.com/store/shoes-sienna-green-gum-sole-low-top
@@RoseAnvil common projects are some of the most expensive that are supposed to have good quality
Thanks for the info. Now i want to buy some ha ha
The fact I’m up at 5 in the morning watching someone talk shit about boots I absolutely love, I’ve had my pair for 5 years wearing them everyday and the soles have finally gone 🥲
My first pair were £9 in 1973 😃 my mum still said they were to expensive lol
Whaaaat!?
in 1981 they were roughly £30 as well
Mine were £19.99 in march 1980 and I've still got them, the new ones are nowhere near the same quality and another thing, $150 in USA but £150 in U.K.
@@sturusk3620 320$ in Russia for "made in England vintage"
I’ve been wearing Docs since I was a teenager, well over 30 years. Always loved ‘em, always will and this video doesn’t change that. I wear the steel toe Chelsea boots every day for work. Current pair 2 1/2 years old with the same again left in them. Speak as you find, I guess.
Got married in a pair of DM oxfords marriage lasted shoes didn’t.. 25 years !
Well as far back as I can remember Doc's in England, Ireland & the British isles have allways been smooth silky leather - its the way we like em' on this side of the pond - we actually don't want the grainy leather.
Another harsh reality is that I've worn the basic shiny " made in China " ones for 5 years now and they're still going beautifully.
Still, next pair I buy will be English made. Nothing against China but I'm getting rather cheesed off seeing "Made in China" on every blooming thing I buy.
If you want good quality made in England boots try Solovair boots. They're all handmade in the same village as the made in England docs.
Any leather connoisseur wants the soft grainy look & feel, leather that has character.. Over the cheap smooth plasticy feel. Then again, most people that wear Docs are not that big into leather. So it makes sense that they would want the smooth plasticy feel instead.
If anyone thinks smooth leather doc is high quality leather they’re clearly know nothing about leather,but I love doc anyway not cus their quality but their silhouette which is just so unique and cool in they’re own way
It’s hard to beat the style of dr martens
They look cool but I don't like their fit at all.
I have the 1460 Pascal Virginia (soft leather). Absolutely love everything about them, especially the way they look!!! 😍
would love to see an overview of more of the leathers they have :) also would love to see you cut apart some dr Martens sandals!
I dig the greasy its the closest to the OG UK Docs, and they are pre-broken in...sadly they dont come with the correct "90s grunge" lug bottoms anymore..
I almost bought a pair of those for the video now i wish i did!
@@RoseAnvil Hi from England - I really like the greasy boots. I bought my first pair in the mid 70's and they lasted forever. They have always been much easier to wear in than the smooth shiny ones (don't like them - although they are the original "skinhead" cherry reds from 1973). I have a pair of greasy Chelsea boots right now that I wore to work for several years and they've still got life in them. They were comfortable right out of the box. 100% waterproof too if you keep them greased.
I hecking love my docs, I have worn them every day for 2 years and love them a ton.
They are super comfy! What kind do you have?
Rose Anvil I have the hard life leather ones I think they’re called, I forget.
Good to know. Have you had any issues with the soles?
Rose Anvil not at all, they’re comfortable but come out of place a little bit sometimes.
being a teenage boy in love with vintage aesthetic items/fashion, i love these boots. thats all just wanted to say that
I bought my first pair of Doc's in 1974 at the age of 13yrs, a pair of 10 eye oxbloods which I cherished immensely. I had to get a part time job and save for them as my dad wouldn't buy me a pair of ''Bovver'' boots as he called them, a term made popular by skinheads at the time, they cost me 20 quid which was a lot of money for a school kid to fork out. I've had quite a few pairs of Doc's over the years with varying degrees of satisfaction, all of them were made at the Northamptonshire factory before everything was outsourced to asia. The last pair I bought was back in 2000 and have worn them on and off until about 4 years ago when the soles got really thin and for some reason I didn't have the heart to bin them. Where I live now there is a cobbler about 10 miles away from me and I have had formal shoes resoled there and was very impressed with the quality of work and the friendly nature the owners show to their customers. So impressed was I that I set them a challenge, could they convert them from an airwear sole, to a leather sole and heel? They were intrigued and up for the challenge. Well that was a week go and I am expecting a call from them within the next week to inform me that the job is complete. The deal was that as it was the first time they had attempted this, it would cost me 85 pounds sterling, if it wasn''t possible, it would cost me nothing but an old pair of boots being ruined, but they were past their best so no real loss. I will update this post one way or the other when I get them back.
OK, I have picked my converted Docs up from the cobblers and I am very impressed! It cost me £100 sterling for the conversion to a leather sole and heel. The boots are very stiff and now support the arch of my foot with the addition of a good shank. Another bonus is that they can be easily repaired in the future. I am now on the lookout for a secondhand pair of boots as the guys who did this job for me are willing to put a wedge sole on like in this video, I think they will be good for riding on my Triumph Tiger.
This is a link to the cobblers who took on the challenge showing the finished repair, they also have repairs sent to them from all over the world. ua-cam.com/video/OtnFmbIStS4/v-deo.html.
thank you so much for the comparison! I've settled for Solovair after all, but I always had a really hard time choosing a leather as they all look the same on product pictures. Very helpful
Glad I could help! I am really interested in solovair
I’ve had mine for ten years they are amazing boots saying I’m a post punk goth
The rubber sole is fused on by melting the rubber onto the boot, it's kinda cool to watch in the making process.
I really love the 1460s over similar boots because of the yellow contrast and have owned several pairs - my first pair was used and easily the best, super thick leather, sturdy sole with way less flex, I ended up reselling them because I wanted a different color. All my other pairs I've bought new, and the point of failure is always the sole. My previous ones split around the ball of the foot after 5 years, my current pair cracked in the heel area after 2, where the shank would be in a different boot. I'll probably buy a pair of Solovairs next even though I prefer the appearance of the docs because the quality keeps decreasing with each pair.
I thought I was the only one that smelled leather shoes.😂🤣
Good video. This explains DMs & shows that my only personal experience with them was with the cheap ones. Still put me off them & I prefer my Wrangler boots.
Bought my brown pair in 1991 and still look great.
Like the vintage ones I tore apart?
Rose Anvil yes, just like the vintages you tore apart with the wood shank.
I have a pair of Men's green low boots purchased at the DM store in London in 1999. Never worn, only adored.
Dear Sir,
Really enjoyed the honest, professional leather-worker review of these icons. And even while maybe some cultural backgrounds and contest may tip the scale in many people towards “cheap-working-class-hero-look-subculture-etc” opinion, I would agree with you on almost all accounts. Maybe add, after a bunch of months wearing a pair of Vintage’s: these survive London, airports, running around a couple of busy conferences, dirt and the occasional side rub agains a car pedal really nicely. The feel is great, they settle in very naturally, do not lose their shape and with absolutely normal, regular care feel and look as exciting as ever. There is definitely a thing about the Made In England sub-brand (beyond the obviously attractive marketing ring to the iconic name). The fact that the natural edges of the undyed leather are visible only adds character and makes them look more stylish in my opinion.I hope you could add your observations after breaking in all pairs and wearing them for a couple of months.
I wish you all the strength and inspiration to keep doing these great and very informative videos, which I really enjoy. Thank you, you made me a fan of yours!
I totally agree with you and thanks for the support!
Hey there i just wanna to say that i absolutely agree with what you said and hope to see another review of the germans Boots like Gabor, Rieker or Tamaris. Thank you so much
Hello! I've had the 1460 Smooth for about a year now and I'm very happy with them. I have to say that when choosing docs, I only thought of how practical they would be. I wanted a boot that would work great during the snowy and rainy seasons, but also have a structure to it. I'm naming structure, because a friend of mine has a pair of docs as well, but hers are not as hard as mine and they don't really stand tall, but instead kind of ''bow down''. I find it quit helpful that they stand tall, it makes it easier when putting them on. I paid ca 160€ for them and I certainly do not regret doing so :)
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Loakes or Barkers are great quality. I bought a pair of Clarkes as my stop-gap boot, and they are great - and just £130.
Always had DOC MARTINS since i was at School . i walkover 12000 steps a day and each pair lasts me well over 30 MONTHS and still look Good . Dubin them Regular .
The giant bag is for when you're carrying them back to the shops cause they've fallen apart in 12mths
Ha ha ha ha
Yup. I maybe get a year out of my docs. The leather always splits just above the stitches on the sole, usually on the heel and the side.
How about a comparison on leather quality between the Dr Martens and Timberlands? 2 iconic boots that stand for good strong boots.
Oooo that’s a good idea
I don’t know if it’s just me but I have never had a timberland boot that lasts, the build quality always seems to be really poor. I haven’t got a recent pair of doc martens to compare, I’ve only got really old ones.
What I love about docs, besides the esthetics, are the ones you call “plasticky” I buy for that exact reason. Horrible to break in. Not comfortable at all, and I still have huge scars on each ankle after all my pairs, but they are great in snow, rain and dirt for that exact purpose. The smooth finish makes them easy to care for and clean. Only comfy pair was the one made out of softer leather, and had sheep fleece/wool on the inside. Just like slippers. I have a love and bate relationship with docs lol.
Why don't you wear long socks?
Exactly. And they're light and dry super fast. I love my Thorogood boots but even with proper seasoning and waxing, they take on water and take forever to dry. And you'd better make sure to add oil or wax if they get wet.