This is in contrast to your videos @AstroOnBudget, for the astro community on youtube you make the shortest videos and Martin Pyott makes the longest videos :D
yep even LED lights can be filtered out now, we got the technology!! However this full scale attack on our Night Sky is a real threat. I only wish Musk can change the technology to prevent the sunlight reflections hitting the solar panels on these starlinks???
Yes you can Hutech IDAS LPS-P3,(now discontiinued so D3) is your solution, I own this filter, damn good but damn expensive!! www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/idas/ngs1/index.htm
Yep Nik, though even though we can edit it out, it's not going to make matters better, as Mr Musk is planning to send 30000 to 40000 starlinks in the Earth's Atmosphere in the near future!! WE STOP HIM NOW before it's too late!!
It does matter, it forces you to use stacking that removes them, some useful stacking algorithms are now useless. And eventually it’ll degrade the contrast and details even with removing them…
Exactly!!! I agree robert w, Software can work at some degree, however only on a few frames, however when we have a super 40000 Starlink grid system orbiting in our nightsky, Nothing will work at all!!! And all those people who bought this Starlink WIFI will be the one's to be held responsible for funding the destruction of our Night Sky!! If people stop buying this crap, than less of these Starlinks can be sent into space.
Hi Martin, on my Astro Tech 120 EDL scope it has like you said the newer focuser a 2.5" and I am able to remove the camera rotator and then put back just the M63 to 2" so I gain I hope enough inward focus. I will be testing the Daystar .5/.33 reducer with a Canon APS-C camera and understand it will have lots of venting?
Well after doing some testing the Daystar .50 reducer works good, and on an Canon APS-C very little venting surprising. But the .33, which is a 20mm ext tube, can't get it closer so won't work.
Great video as usual, Martin. Great scope that 115 triplet of yours. I wasn't familiar with that flattener/reducer, the only one I have heard of was the Starizona Apex. Some folks don't like the QHY183 camera because of the small pixels, but if we are going to shorter focal lengths, small pixels is the way to go, as far as I know. Amp glow, yes, but easily corrected with proper darks. I normally use my QHY183 OSC at gain 11 offset 30 (I have even imaged a g4 o7), so I'll give it a try at a higher offset, as you did, to see how it goes. So several good takeaways from your video. Thank you for sharing your findings. Clear skies, happy new year!
Thanks for watching my video and sharing some of your experiences with your existing setup, I agree QHY183M is not a perfect camera, but it performs extremely if used correctly. Getting that sweet spot on pixel size resolution is key ( of value of 1 to 2) Ive seen so many people think that bigger the sensor means better performance, is not strictly true, as you can under or over sample an image. I've picked the QHY183M for a smaller sensor as it's great camera to image smaller DSOs providing a decent image scale without extreme cropping, plus being a smaller sensor, means I can use smaller and cheaper 1.25" filters and filter wheel for half the price compared to 2" format, which now is so much expensive due to living costs increased. Clear Skies Sergio and Happy New Year!!
@@whatmattersmost6725 That's awesome stuff, the 0.65x FF/FR will make astro-imaging so much faster, what does this FF/FR reduce focal ratio on your set-up by if you mind me for asking??
975mm x 0.65 = 633.75mm Yes you are correct!!! Achieving F5.1 is very impressive from a scope which almost has 1m in focal length, the speed on that scope would be tremendous!! GOOD JOB What Matters Most!!!
I can‘t even get this fast. My Apo is a 80mm Skywatcher which has a native focal ratio of 7.5 and fortunately the x0.85 reducer/flattener gets it down to f/6.4. Also my newtonian is f/5 but for this one I am very close to the inner end of my focus tube since I use a x0.95 coma corrector. The only telescope I have with a fast reducer is a classic Cassegrain with x0.67 reducer but this one has a native focal ratio of 12 so no big boost as well. My cameras are ASI1600MMs using a M4/3 sensor so it’s a little bigger than the 1“ sensor. Probably wouldn’t even work to use this reducer anyway. If your focus is to close I‘d also consider a threaded adapter. They are very short and under the 2“ nosepiece of the reducer there may be a standard thread hidden.
Yes your right the 2600 sensor will be to large for 0.67x focal reducer. Thanks for your input Michael, I will be looking for a slimmer adapter, the lack of travel needs to be extented more!!
Martin, since I trust you to just say it how it is, can I ask you: If you didn't wish to spend more than £300 on a one shot colour astrocamera (I have a dslr) and you wished it to be as much an 'all rounder' as possible - i.e. planets, deep sky AND be able to do a decent job at EAA - which camera would you opt for?
Personally £300 is not much of budget for a one color shot astrocamera, I'll be honest trying to find a secondhand one at that price is really hard to find and prices have gone sky rocketed with the crisis involved!! I would stick with the DSLR to be honest with you, particular with the Canon 600D has you can still take deep sky with long exposures and you can crop the sensor enough to get a decent image scale on the planets, (However the ZWOASI 120MC-S will do a much better job due to it's higher frame rate) So really a good dslr like the Canon 600D and the another like the ASI120MC-S is ideal, Yes I agree it's 2 cameras involved, but trying to find a good rounder camera at £300 is almost impossible to find, maybe £600 would be enough to get one second hand, But remember bigger the sensor is not always suitable for a given telescope. It's pixel size resoultion and micron size which counts which can vary on a telescopes focal length which determines it's field of view.
@@MPAstro Just ordered that reducer. I think you still have that DayStar, they make a .5 & .33 reducer for Daystar and since it's a 2" I am going to play with that tomorrow. I expect to only cover a 4/3 sensor due venting.
Yes the Daystar have 0.5x 0.33x reducer, I'm guessing you after full solar disc imaging, I'm working on this too, but looking at a more cheaper option!!! The daystar FF is way too expensive!!
Bloody hell I can't believe how obnoxious some comments are. Thanks for the vid mate. The other week I saw a starlink 'train' presumably just launched it was the full extent of the sky for several minutes. Its only getting worse.
Thank you for your support to MP ASTRO Captain Cook, I thought this video might tigger a few viewers here. But honestly it needs to be said!!! The problem is defo getting worse and we must stop it!! I like Musk on certain things he's done, but this is the one project (starlink) Which scares me the most!! Our hobby is under serious threat, and this project not only harms our night sky, but what will be major effects to nature will it impact on us all. None of the top Astro channels are calling this dilemma out, which I believe they don't want to risk their channel for views and subs!! I feel they should but I know they won't!!!
It's shocking news Captain Cook!! That what was predicted 3 years ago, is starting to become reality. Professional Astronomers have been warning us for sometime now and nobody has done nothing about it!!
There is a video I've found, where there is an 2019 Physics Nobel laureate Prof. Didier Queloz who this guy has an debate on this Starlink Problem, and yet UA-cam blocks it, this video is very hard to find and it doesn't get much views. But this guy hit's the nail on the head with facts, and everything he says, again has become an reality. Please Captain Cook can you share this video out to as much people as possible. The plan is defo going to happen and the after effects will be deverstating!! This is the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/dA4FUFgXtKQ/v-deo.html
Not every satellite is Starlink. I had plenty of sat bombs in my images well before the first starlink was launched. I originally thought they would cause us imagers a problem. But they are easily stacked out with enough frames
Very true but how long will stacking software can no longer cope when there be 40,000 of these in the Night sky, plus what about the observers, they will be hard hit with this impact?? You have an Astro channel like me Right?? what about making the stand against this new threat (or pollution for that matter) and make a video to share your to viewers with your experience , the more channels start to complain about this the more people will start to think??? Seriously letting this slide will only allow the super rich to do whatever they want.
Would you be kind enough to post a copy of the letter you sent to your national telecom regulatory agency when they were reviewing permission to operate SpaceX's StarLink system over their territory?
Here's some ways that may help 1.there's a samyang 135mm F/2 lens which if you put a smaller senser somthing like QHY533 then it will be super fast and have a good sampling! 2. Try these GSO 0.5x reducer,these are super useful with my SCTs. 3. Just use a supersonic high-power laser to shoot them down(Just kidding)
Thanks AstroJetfor sharing your tips, Ive done something similar with my Mak 180 using a F6.3 Reducer to some effect, However I cannot disagree with you that a DSLR lens has much wider FOV, totally true indeed!! Though prices for a decent lens are not cheap, some costing as much as £1000. Though you defo more faster F ratio than any telescope or RASA for that matter!!
The problem you are having with satellites is completely eliminated by using pixel rejection in a Pixinsight stacking workflow. There's no reason to throw away an image that is 99.9% usable.
Good point I agree what you say that software can help reduce the trailing, However it doesn't eliminate the problem, as I feel it is quite unfair for all observers amongst us all, Remember that we all started by looking up at the night sky with a basic pair of binos or telescope. When we will not be able to see the stars with the constant Starlink grid pattern in the sky, Astronomy will be gone!!! With the interest severely effected, Astro business will go bust and Manufacturers will not be able to produce all those good Astro-imaging gear you always wanted. Look at the bigger picture here??? By accepting and allowing this to happen, You might as well give up Astro-imaging!!! However myself and few others will fight back to try and save our Night Sky, hence the reason why it is so important!!
@@MPAstro You are massively exaggerating the issue and you're pretty much yelling into the wind with no solution. A focal reducer isn't going to help you when there's more of these satellites, is it. You need to adapt to the conditions and at the moment pixel rejection algorithms completely eliminate this issue. They don't reduce it. They eliminate it. Yet for some reason you completely downplay this so you could make a 70 minute video about a focal reducer that does nothing to help you. I didn't learn anything from this video. Start lobbying your local MP if you want to see change.
Not really, when it becomes out of control, we will see who is correct and by that time it will be too late!! Also what can a local MP do, Let me see??? Nothing absolutely nothing!!
I understand banter when it is needed. There is too many people acting like robots and not have any comon sense. Working with these individuals is a nightmare!! And yes I did join a group once, never liked the atmosphere, as it seemed like an act with full of toxic people pretending to know shit and give very bad advice, and then the money talks briagde with them showing off expensive gear and appear to be rude and very arrogant towards the newcomers and beginners, My face gringed with full of disgust, Sir Patrick Moore did not want this outcome to happen!!! So Astro clubs are not for me neither, because I would not pretend and BS people. Not my style!! Though I have been to Astro Parties which they are good, as you can work out people on the night who genuinely know their stuff and are very good people to talk to, and with their sound advice, you can tell straight away that they are strongly dedicated to the hobby and are willing to help newcomers and for those who are full of shit (usually found with expensive astro gear AKA TAK crowd), you can just don't talk to them and just walk away from them and contiune your observing or imaging session.
This is bizarre video. By the way, qhy183 is rubbish camera, pixels are too small. You need to get larger pixels, if you are striving for speed. Is TS115 f7 expensive? Just 1200 euros. Really expensive is Tak 106fs, or TEC 140mm. If you want a proper reducer and faster, then get APEX-L (Starizona). So, solution to solve this dilemma is to change camera to 294mm chip, don’t use reducer and preferably take pictures in Spain using lighter harmonic drive mounts.
QHY183M is not a rubbish camera, if you work out your set-up properly. And yes I love TAK but I cannot afford one, not everything is about money. I do Astronomy by skill not budget!!
@@MPAstro It is just a camera, not optimal one. I get more sensitive and obviously, better resolution with 294mm camera and f7.7 scope with FL 800mm. My system’s cost is lower than yours as well. But, hey you could continue to use your set up and be happy.
@@MPAstro High frequency of satellites in your pictures is very interesting. I don’t have this in south of Texas. Well, I have sometimes, but it is 1 every 3-4h, and after 11pm, this flying stops. I am more worry about military planes 😉
It really does depend where you live, however the more of these starlinks get launched into space, nobody will be safe anymore. In this video I had 7-8 starlink trails on that imaging sesson alone and yes planes are bug bear too!!
Your belief that Starlink is all about wifi to the masses is ridiculous and I'll tell you why: I worked, for 30 years, in the telecommunications industry and what you - nor any Musk fans - understand is the business/commercial side of providing such services to rural regions of the world. For one thing, we're getting closer and closer to nearly 70% of the world's population residing in urban areas. Agenda 2030 of the UN is all about stuffing more and more people into cities and that figure will only increase. I was a Business Developer for people like Ericsson Telecommunications and know, first hand, that the commercials (bottom line profit) in supplying such services to rural areas do not add up (either by ground based or space based means). That has been the case for the last 30 odd years and is even worse now given rural areas are being depleted of population. Your belief in Musk and technology for anything space based is misplaced because, like so many astro guys (of which I'm one) you get excited by anything "outer space" fed to you. You're in for a rude awakening.
proof or you come across as a conspiracy nut and I mean peer reviewed evidence not a youtube clip or web site based in conspiratorial groups. You're not the only one who works in telecommunications
@@nikaxstrophotography Proof of what? Peer reviewed evidence of what? If the cost of rolling out a network across a given area is divided by the population of that area, that gives you the necessary price point you need to sell the service at to service that population. If the population is small and spread over a vast area (as it is in rural communities who tend to have lower - sometimes vastly lower - income than those in urban communities) the network will not be commercially viable. I don't need "peer reviews" of this. I did the business plans on many occasions for last mile access networks and know it is a simple, easily understood, fact. I don't need a bloody youtube video or 'conspiratorial group'!
Thank you, Martin. This is so good. Clear skies.
Many thanks! Some totally different from usual crowd of projects shown on UA-cam
This is in contrast to your videos @AstroOnBudget, for the astro community on youtube you make the shortest videos and Martin Pyott makes the longest videos :D
Thanks once more for another great video Martin. You keep putting ideas in my head.
Cheers, Steve.
No worries Steve!! YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!! GO FOR IT!!
Nice capture Martin 👍 just goes to show with a bit of thought how problems can be overcome 🧐
Absolutely
Beautiful scope Martin. Luv the blue.
Thank you Vic, It's nice scope, but my aim is to show how bad the Starlinks are polluting and damaging our Night Sky!!
It was bad enough with sodium lights. At least we could filter them🙄
yep even LED lights can be filtered out now, we got the technology!! However this full scale attack on our Night Sky is a real threat. I only wish Musk can change the technology to prevent the sunlight reflections hitting the solar panels on these starlinks???
@@MPAstro I didn't know you could filter led. Very good 👍
Yes you can Hutech IDAS LPS-P3,(now discontiinued so D3) is your solution, I own this filter, damn good but damn expensive!! www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/idas/ngs1/index.htm
Great vid Martin.
Thanks for the visit
Sigma kappa clipping gets rid of the star trails when stacking.
Yep Nik, though even though we can edit it out, it's not going to make matters better, as Mr Musk is planning to send 30000 to 40000 starlinks in the Earth's Atmosphere in the near future!! WE STOP HIM NOW before it's too late!!
It does matter, it forces you to use stacking that removes them, some useful stacking algorithms are now useless. And eventually it’ll degrade the contrast and details even with removing them…
Exactly!!! I agree robert w, Software can work at some degree, however only on a few frames, however when we have a super 40000 Starlink grid system orbiting in our nightsky, Nothing will work at all!!! And all those people who bought this Starlink WIFI will be the one's to be held responsible for funding the destruction of our Night Sky!! If people stop buying this crap, than less of these Starlinks can be sent into space.
Hi Martin, on my Astro Tech 120 EDL scope it has like you said the newer focuser a 2.5" and I am able to remove the camera rotator and then put back just the M63 to 2" so I gain I hope enough inward focus. I will be testing the Daystar .5/.33 reducer with a Canon APS-C camera and understand it will have lots of venting?
Thanks for the info!
Well after doing some testing the Daystar .50 reducer works good, and on an Canon APS-C very little venting surprising. But the .33, which is a 20mm ext tube, can't get it closer so won't work.
@@whatmattersmost6725 Yep I knew it was to be the sensor is vignetting, hence the edges get blurred a round the suns disc
Great video as usual, Martin. Great scope that 115 triplet of yours. I wasn't familiar with that flattener/reducer, the only one I have heard of was the Starizona Apex. Some folks don't like the QHY183 camera because of the small pixels, but if we are going to shorter focal lengths, small pixels is the way to go, as far as I know. Amp glow, yes, but easily corrected with proper darks. I normally use my QHY183 OSC at gain 11 offset 30 (I have even imaged a g4 o7), so I'll give it a try at a higher offset, as you did, to see how it goes. So several good takeaways from your video. Thank you for sharing your findings. Clear skies, happy new year!
Thanks for watching my video and sharing some of your experiences with your existing setup, I agree QHY183M is not a perfect camera, but it performs extremely if used correctly. Getting that sweet spot on pixel size resolution is key ( of value of 1 to 2) Ive seen so many people think that bigger the sensor means better performance, is not strictly true, as you can under or over sample an image. I've picked the QHY183M for a smaller sensor as it's great camera to image smaller DSOs providing a decent image scale without extreme cropping, plus being a smaller sensor, means I can use smaller and cheaper 1.25" filters and filter wheel for half the price compared to 2" format, which now is so much expensive due to living costs increased. Clear Skies Sergio and Happy New Year!!
From Agenaastro says that a standard 48mm 2" filter will thread on as there's is a M48x0.60 thread? Can you thread a 2" filter on the nose piece?
That's a very good point, I've never come across that one before, I will check to confirm this!!
@@MPAstro Hi Martin, I just got that 0.65 reducer and it's a M48 filter so not sure why Agenastro says differently? Quick looks much wider... THANKS!!
@@whatmattersmost6725 That's awesome stuff, the 0.65x FF/FR will make astro-imaging so much faster, what does this FF/FR reduce focal ratio on your set-up by if you mind me for asking??
@@MPAstro Anytime Martin glad too, on my AT 125EDL, without is F/7.8 975mm, with is F/5.1 634mm, if I did the math right?
975mm x 0.65 = 633.75mm Yes you are correct!!! Achieving F5.1 is very impressive from a scope which almost has 1m in focal length, the speed on that scope would be tremendous!! GOOD JOB What Matters Most!!!
I am curious - is there some imaging trick to make the final images 3D?
I think there is, but it's a app you have to pay for to use it!!
I can‘t even get this fast. My Apo is a 80mm Skywatcher which has a native focal ratio of 7.5 and fortunately the x0.85 reducer/flattener gets it down to f/6.4. Also my newtonian is f/5 but for this one I am very close to the inner end of my focus tube since I use a x0.95 coma corrector.
The only telescope I have with a fast reducer is a classic Cassegrain with x0.67 reducer but this one has a native focal ratio of 12 so no big boost as well.
My cameras are ASI1600MMs using a M4/3 sensor so it’s a little bigger than the 1“ sensor. Probably wouldn’t even work to use this reducer anyway.
If your focus is to close I‘d also consider a threaded adapter. They are very short and under the 2“ nosepiece of the reducer there may be a standard thread hidden.
Yes your right the 2600 sensor will be to large for 0.67x focal reducer. Thanks for your input Michael, I will be looking for a slimmer adapter, the lack of travel needs to be extented more!!
Martin, since I trust you to just say it how it is, can I ask you: If you didn't wish to spend more than £300 on a one shot colour astrocamera (I have a dslr) and you wished it to be as much an 'all rounder' as possible - i.e. planets, deep sky AND be able to do a decent job at EAA - which camera would you opt for?
Personally £300 is not much of budget for a one color shot astrocamera, I'll be honest trying to find a secondhand one at that price is really hard to find and prices have gone sky rocketed with the crisis involved!! I would stick with the DSLR to be honest with you, particular with the Canon 600D has you can still take deep sky with long exposures and you can crop the sensor enough to get a decent image scale on the planets, (However the ZWOASI 120MC-S will do a much better job due to it's higher frame rate) So really a good dslr like the Canon 600D and the another like the ASI120MC-S is ideal, Yes I agree it's 2 cameras involved, but trying to find a good rounder camera at £300 is almost impossible to find, maybe £600 would be enough to get one second hand, But remember bigger the sensor is not always suitable for a given telescope. It's pixel size resoultion and micron size which counts which can vary on a telescopes focal length which determines it's field of view.
Hi Martin, you could have removed the camera rotator on the back of the scope and then use the Badder M68 adapter and get more back travel.
I did try that one, however finding the right adaptor was very difficult, and too costly. Kept this one SIMPLES!!! And much cheaper option too!!
@@MPAstro Just ordered that reducer. I think you still have that DayStar, they make a .5 & .33 reducer for Daystar and since it's a 2" I am going to play with that tomorrow. I expect to only cover a 4/3 sensor due venting.
Yes the Daystar have 0.5x 0.33x reducer, I'm guessing you after full solar disc imaging, I'm working on this too, but looking at a more cheaper option!!! The daystar FF is way too expensive!!
I see them in every single frame I take… sometimes 4 or 5 of these things…
Yep and again while people are still acting like sheep has if nothing as ever happened, Musk sends another 60 starlinks a week!!!
Bloody hell I can't believe how obnoxious some comments are. Thanks for the vid mate. The other week I saw a starlink 'train' presumably just launched it was the full extent of the sky for several minutes. Its only getting worse.
Thank you for your support to MP ASTRO Captain Cook, I thought this video might tigger a few viewers here. But honestly it needs to be said!!! The problem is defo getting worse and we must stop it!!
I like Musk on certain things he's done, but this is the one project (starlink) Which scares me the most!! Our hobby is under serious threat, and this project not only harms our night sky, but what will be major effects to nature will it impact on us all.
None of the top Astro channels are calling this dilemma out, which I believe they don't want to risk their channel for views and subs!!
I feel they should but I know they won't!!!
@@MPAstrojust saw a video by scott Manley that projects all satellites at once in 3D VR..and that was with 3 years old data!
It's shocking news Captain Cook!! That what was predicted 3 years ago, is starting to become reality. Professional Astronomers have been warning us for sometime now and nobody has done nothing about it!!
There is a video I've found, where there is an 2019 Physics Nobel laureate Prof. Didier Queloz who this guy has an debate on this Starlink Problem, and yet UA-cam blocks it, this video is very hard to find and it doesn't get much views. But this guy hit's the nail on the head with facts, and everything he says, again has become an reality. Please Captain Cook can you share this video out to as much people as possible.
The plan is defo going to happen and the after effects will be deverstating!! This is the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/dA4FUFgXtKQ/v-deo.html
@@MPAstro ok mate
RASA is f/2 ! Dream scope but so hard to focus
Another dream scope, I agree the RASA F2 is unstoppable, though the price scares me a little!!
Not every satellite is Starlink. I had plenty of sat bombs in my images well before the first starlink was launched. I originally thought they would cause us imagers a problem. But they are easily stacked out with enough frames
Very true but how long will stacking software can no longer cope when there be 40,000 of these in the Night sky, plus what about the observers, they will be hard hit with this impact?? You have an Astro channel like me Right?? what about making the stand against this new threat (or pollution for that matter) and make a video to share your to viewers with your experience , the more channels start to complain about this the more people will start to think??? Seriously letting this slide will only allow the super rich to do whatever they want.
Would you be kind enough to post a copy of the letter you sent to your national telecom regulatory agency when they were reviewing permission to operate SpaceX's StarLink system over their territory?
How is that even possible to even ask for such permission Lol???
Here's some ways that may help 1.there's a samyang 135mm F/2 lens which if you put a smaller senser somthing like QHY533 then it will be super fast and have a good sampling! 2. Try these GSO 0.5x reducer,these are super useful with my SCTs. 3. Just use a supersonic high-power laser to shoot them down(Just kidding)
Thanks AstroJetfor sharing your tips, Ive done something similar with my Mak 180 using a F6.3 Reducer to some effect, However I cannot disagree with you that a DSLR lens has much wider FOV, totally true indeed!! Though prices for a decent lens are not cheap, some costing as much as £1000. Though you defo more faster F ratio than any telescope or RASA for that matter!!
who is excited?
You'll LOVE this one!!! The Only channel to CALL OUT this issue we face which is the biggest threat to our Night Sky!!
@@MPAstro of course! why not? you are one of the most underrated youtube channels
It's a real shame UA-cam logithiums is not kind to smaller Astro channels!!
The problem you are having with satellites is completely eliminated by using pixel rejection in a Pixinsight stacking workflow. There's no reason to throw away an image that is 99.9% usable.
Good point I agree what you say that software can help reduce the trailing, However it doesn't eliminate the problem, as I feel it is quite unfair for all observers amongst us all, Remember that we all started by looking up at the night sky with a basic pair of binos or telescope. When we will not be able to see the stars with the constant Starlink grid pattern in the sky, Astronomy will be gone!!! With the interest severely effected, Astro business will go bust and Manufacturers will not be able to produce all those good Astro-imaging gear you always wanted.
Look at the bigger picture here??? By accepting and allowing this to happen, You might as well give up Astro-imaging!!!
However myself and few others will fight back to try and save our Night Sky, hence the reason why it is so important!!
@@MPAstro You are massively exaggerating the issue and you're pretty much yelling into the wind with no solution. A focal reducer isn't going to help you when there's more of these satellites, is it. You need to adapt to the conditions and at the moment pixel rejection algorithms completely eliminate this issue. They don't reduce it. They eliminate it. Yet for some reason you completely downplay this so you could make a 70 minute video about a focal reducer that does nothing to help you. I didn't learn anything from this video.
Start lobbying your local MP if you want to see change.
Not really, when it becomes out of control, we will see who is correct and by that time it will be too late!!
Also what can a local MP do, Let me see??? Nothing absolutely nothing!!
@@MPAstro Ok dude, so tell me your master plan. How exactly are you going to stop all of this from happening? Give me the details, bro.
Lol you are so Musk fan aren't you??
"Guys and Girls": Were you a big Jimmy Savile fan?
How about FUCK NO!!!
@@MPAstro LOL Had to ask Martin since he's the only other person i've ever heard use it. Just a wee joke there, tho'!
Mate just don't call me a nonce, otherwise I'll come around knocking on your door Lol!!
@@MPAstro I've noticed there isn't much humour in astronomy. I could never join a club!
I understand banter when it is needed. There is too many people acting like robots and not have any comon sense. Working with these individuals is a nightmare!! And yes I did join a group once, never liked the atmosphere, as it seemed like an act with full of toxic people pretending to know shit and give very bad advice, and then the money talks briagde with them showing off expensive gear and appear to be rude and very arrogant towards the newcomers and beginners, My face gringed with full of disgust, Sir Patrick Moore did not want this outcome to happen!!! So Astro clubs are not for me neither, because I would not pretend and BS people. Not my style!!
Though I have been to Astro Parties which they are good, as you can work out people on the night who genuinely know their stuff and are very good people to talk to, and with their sound advice, you can tell straight away that they are strongly dedicated to the hobby and are willing to help newcomers and for those who are full of shit (usually found with expensive astro gear AKA TAK crowd), you can just don't talk to them and just walk away from them and contiune your observing or imaging session.
This is bizarre video.
By the way, qhy183 is rubbish camera, pixels are too small. You need to get larger pixels, if you are striving for speed.
Is TS115 f7 expensive? Just 1200 euros. Really expensive is Tak 106fs, or TEC 140mm.
If you want a proper reducer and faster, then get APEX-L (Starizona).
So, solution to solve this dilemma is to change camera to 294mm chip, don’t use reducer and preferably take pictures in Spain using lighter harmonic drive mounts.
QHY183M is not a rubbish camera, if you work out your set-up properly. And yes I love TAK but I cannot afford one, not everything is about money. I do Astronomy by skill not budget!!
@@MPAstro It is just a camera, not optimal one.
I get more sensitive and obviously, better resolution with 294mm camera and f7.7 scope with FL 800mm. My system’s cost is lower than yours as well.
But, hey you could continue to use your set up and be happy.
Exactly Ana!! use the equipment and defo be happy. Life is too short! Enjoy the night sky as much as we can!! Before Musk invasion starts!!!
@@MPAstro High frequency of satellites in your pictures is very interesting. I don’t have this in south of Texas. Well, I have sometimes, but it is 1 every 3-4h, and after 11pm, this flying stops. I am more worry about military planes 😉
It really does depend where you live, however the more of these starlinks get launched into space, nobody will be safe anymore. In this video I had 7-8 starlink trails on that imaging sesson alone and yes planes are bug bear too!!
Your belief that Starlink is all about wifi to the masses is ridiculous and I'll tell you why: I worked, for 30 years, in the telecommunications industry and what you - nor any Musk fans - understand is the business/commercial side of providing such services to rural regions of the world. For one thing, we're getting closer and closer to nearly 70% of the world's population residing in urban areas. Agenda 2030 of the UN is all about stuffing more and more people into cities and that figure will only increase. I was a Business Developer for people like Ericsson Telecommunications and know, first hand, that the commercials (bottom line profit) in supplying such services to rural areas do not add up (either by ground based or space based means). That has been the case for the last 30 odd years and is even worse now given rural areas are being depleted of population. Your belief in Musk and technology for anything space based is misplaced because, like so many astro guys (of which I'm one) you get excited by anything "outer space" fed to you. You're in for a rude awakening.
proof or you come across as a conspiracy nut and I mean peer reviewed evidence not a youtube clip or web site based in conspiratorial groups. You're not the only one who works in telecommunications
@@nikaxstrophotography Proof of what? Peer reviewed evidence of what? If the cost of rolling out a network across a given area is divided by the population of that area, that gives you the necessary price point you need to sell the service at to service that population. If the population is small and spread over a vast area (as it is in rural communities who tend to have lower - sometimes vastly lower - income than those in urban communities) the network will not be commercially viable. I don't need "peer reviews" of this. I did the business plans on many occasions for last mile access networks and know it is a simple, easily understood, fact. I don't need a bloody youtube video or 'conspiratorial group'!
@@markwelsh9068 2+2=4.
Source???????
@@Mandragara Source of what? I'm the bloody source!
@@markwelsh9068 dream on mate you mentioned UN agendas not me go away